Has anyone taken Stadol Nose Spray for Pain Relief?

[s.mcm]

Has anyone taken Stadol Nose Spray for pain relief?  I used it for 3 years and became totally addicted even though the drug manufacturers claimed (at first) that it was a non addictive drug.  I had to be hospitalized for withdrawal. I was wondering if anyone had any side effects after the use was discontinued.  I find my memory is shot and I am only 45.
thanks

[OxyDout]

regardless to the type of opiate and the way in which it is administered or taken, snorting, eating, shooting, spraying..... all of us have gone through what you are experiencing. There are tons of side affects INCLUDING memory loss, however, I truly believe, its not really memory loss. I think that all of us while being addicted are always high and always in this cloud of smoke, we never think straight and we don't pay attention to anything(you might think you do when your high, but you don't) anyway, the point is, you don't remember because you were high. I have noticed since I have been sober, I remember pretty much everything. Does that make sense....?? Without the drugs, the cloud is gone and you can think clearly, you are more aware, therefor you remember everything much better. In anycase, keep posting, you will find so many different point of views, all of which will be different, but helpfull non the less. Good luck, stay positive. You will do it!!!

GWH

[tlk]

GWH is right about all of us going through what you are. I'm only 32 and have memory loss, too, though. It's not as bad as when I was using, but it's still there. However, when people ask me about stuff that happened when I was using, I draw a blank. As your brain neurotransmitters repair themselves, I think the memory loss will get much better, but ask your doctor. I will never remember the stuff that happened when I was using, but it is getting better as far as the daily stuff now goes. You will also have other stuff to deal with, such as the cravings and depression, possibly, but that will ease too. Good luck and keep posting. Tracy

[vikequeen]

Back when I was working in the Dental office(where IT all began) lol We had a patient that was so addicted to it, she called like weekly begging for it, years later I saw her in the Pharm trying to get it filled. I always thought at the time shes just like me, even though The DDS and staff used to make fun of her.

Hey Friends, keep me in your thoughts and prayers for next thurs I am having my total hip replacement. I know I can seem selfish at times but I really do care about what each and everyone one of you is going thru and all the things you have shared.

Love Baddgirl

[s.mcm]

thanks for your comments.  I have been off the Stadol now for 3 years and my loss of memory ,even for current things, is still very bad.  The Dr. says it is just stress , age and lots on my mind.  But you are right,  during my "drug days" everything is a fog.  I dont remember much that went on during those 3 years.
tks again

[angst]

A neurologist placed me  on  Stadol NS in late 1993 for vascular headaches.  I had never taken drugs before this time.  He continued presribing it for me for 4 years, the last 2 years, I was taking a bottle per day.  Snorting in the way it is ingested because it is a nasal spray, hince Stadol NS.  You can also get it in an inj form.  They did not schedule stadol ns, until a doctor's son died from an overdose.  Many people who started on the stadol ns became addicts.  

It may take some time for the fog to lift.  Sometimes, I think addicts are like square pegs when the world is full of round holes.  We just do not fit into every catagory as others.  

There is a class action suit against stadol ns.  You might check into it.  The internet will inform you of some attorneys taking clients for the suit.

Good Luck.  You can make it through the disruptive physical symptoms.

[GOD]

I have not seen this forum so dead in a long time~!!

Where is everyone?

MrMicheal? You seem to have a great deal of knowledge about opiates~~ Perhaps you can answer this question:

Which is more "Powerful"

A. Oxycontin 40Mgs 3 times per day
B. Morphine sulfate IR 30Mgs 3 times per day

Ther reason I ask is that My Aunt was on the above mentioned dose of OXY, and was still able to function well-- as in taking care of her house, herself, and general life issues. However, her Pain specialist switched her to the Morphine sulfate, and she's practically in a vegitative state 24 Hours a day! I was under the assumption that OXY was the most "Powerful" opiate milligram for milligram available. Is it possible that she's just more sensitive to the Morphine?

Anyhow, If you have an Idea, I'd like to know your opinion! (Anyone is welcome to put thier 2 cents worth in!)

~~~~Thanks~~~~
Jess

[GOD]

Anybody notice that Dr. Steve hasn't posted any answers in over 2 months?

Where are you Dr. Steve?

[mrmichael67]

Actually, as far as the opiates that chronic painers are prescribed, fentanyl has the distinction of being the strongest.  It is 50 to 100 times stronger than morphine.  The strongest is sufentanyl at 1000 times the strength of morphine.  That is used in hospitals for anesthesia and pain in ob cases and other painful procedures.  The brand name is Sufenta.  The fentanyls are definitely the strongest.  She may be just very sensitive to morphine.  Morphine 30mg ir is equal to about 20mg of oxycodone.  One thing that might come into play is that the morphine is going into her system all at once.  A good suggestion would be for her to go to ms contin or oramorph sr.  That way, it would be released gradually and would be less of a jolt to her system.  As far as total opioid in a 24 hour period, she is now getting less than she did with the oxycontin.  Now that I think of it, she would probably do better with a different opioid all together.  But, I would say that the immediate release morphine should be canned for sustained release.  What specifically is happening to her?  What type of side effects?  Some opioids have differing side effect profiles.  A little more info about her would be helpful.

[skipper]

hey people:
looks like the makings of a beautiful day weather-wise in the the
upper midwest! irish rose and kip will be out of town for the day.
we are getting out of this cow-town on a dirty old river and going
to celebrate my mother-in-law's birhday in another cow town further
up the dirty old river.

jess: let's try to have coffee soon. the troubles your aunt is
having are somewhat disturbing (to say the least). anyhow perhaps
we can come up with something less centered in opiates to help!

keep an angel on your shoulder!
kip

[angst]

Good morning, kip.  This is a beautiful and hot day on the MS Gulf Coast.  I'm hitting the countryclub on the gulf in Gautier today.  After I feed the girls, we will head out to the pools and fresh air.  Fishing is good for it has not rained in about 21/2 weeks.
I have to water the plants, othewise they'd all swiver up to  nothing.
Hope you are enjoying the summer time also.  Send us some more of your writing.  I like creative writing and music, but I am an artist myself.  When I can't put words to things, I can draw or paint like a madwoman.  I still have both ears. VanGogh is one of my favories due to the texture and colors as well as chosen material.
Don't leave me now.

[GOD]

Hey, Skip!

I think that coffee sounds like a great idea! Where do you want to go? Most of the Village inns/dennys have pretty crappy coffee, so if you know of anywhere thats got some decent java just name it, and I'll be there! How does Sunday after 11:00 a.m. sound? I go to AA Sunday morning meeting in Papillion, and am free after that.

Jess
P.S. It's not that bad of a day!

[hippy]

im almost a month clean taking the receipe and have seen people mention the 5htp and was thinking of adding it .
I was looking for any information about it and what kind of results others were have with taking it.
thanks to all and i hope everyone is doing well on this
wonderful sunny spring day. peace and keep on chugging.
Don't drink too much coffee, all.
To anyone new to this fourm, welcome and stick around and read all the post. There is a lot of great information on how to get clean and stay clean, along with plenty of info on dealing with the symptoms of withdrawl and how to get through it.
The people here offer so much support and information.
When i found this fourm a month ago i was a mess and was full of a lot of fear about the 15 pills(perc's ,vike's ,hydo's) i was taking , I thought for sure i was going to die,and that i was
hopeless.
I have learned so much in a month , i truly am grateful.
This is coming from an addict that was clean in NA for 14 years ,
up untill 3 years ago untill i had to take pain med's from the doctor for shoulder operations. the pain med's got out of controll
some where in the 2nd year, I crossed a line started taking to much and then when the dr. stopped prescribing them i started buying them on the sreet, and here i am clean,only because i was openminded enough to listen to the people on this fourm.
This coming from an addict who thought he knew it all, of course
that was nothing but folly.

[Witchywoman]

5 htp is a wonderful supplement. It is an amino acid, and is the direct precursor to seratonin. Seratonin is depleted by chronic narcotic abuse, and that ia part of why we get the post detox depression. the 5htp got me out of a suicidal depression when I detoxed.

I suggest you go to the website www.Raysahelian.com   He is a Doctor who has written many books and done a lot of research on 5htp and other nutritional supplements.  You'll find dosage information and other stuff of help there.

I take 100mgs of 5 htp, every day, in the morning. Many people need 100mgs three times a day. Some folks need less. Never exceed 300mgs per day, and don't take it if you are already on an ssri antidepressant. too much seraton in your sytem can be extremely dangerous and even lethal.

hope this helps!
WW

[hippy]

I like your post below on principles, acceptance is a great one.
right now i am getting in touch with trust, in regards to a higher power. congrat's on your time clean. and thanks agian for the info.

[cdh]

First off I would to apologize to everyone on my first posting it sounded like a little kid saying my daddy can beat up your daddy, or perhaps my bike is better than your bike. In truth I was saying my addiction is worse than yours ha ha. I am sorry for this.

Since my first post I have gone to my doctor and told him about my oxycontin problem (not that I was snorting it) but I did abuse it and that I liked it to much. He decided to switch me to MS CONTIN 200mg every 12 hours. I have been on this dose since Tuesday without a whole lot of problems. I have used the same Doc for better than 6 years. He knows I am a recovering alcoholic and addict. In the last 6 months my insurance changed and my new insurance no longer allowed me to use my old Doc. I discussed this with him at witch point he stated he would not allow an insurance company come between our relationship and that he would se me for free. I trust this man totally. He wants me to have a pain pump installed in my body. I did a test using the pump and it worked great. According to my doctor he wants to take the medicating out of my hands and put them in his.

I was wondering what ya’ll thought of this and if anyone is familiar with the pain pump. Any comment would be much appreciated.

[angst]

I used to be a nurse, before I became an addict.  My knowledge may be a little out of time.  If so, someone, Mr. Michael, hopefully will straighten it out.  So here goes,  pain doctors and neurologist can implant a device with a catheter to go directly to the area of pain.  It is usually filled with morphine.  I have seen baclofen (a muscle relaxant used with pain and spastistity) used for real spastic muscle problems.  The pump is checked by an utensil on the outside.  The pump is placed where morphine or whatever drug is used can be easily filled and monitored.  There is a catheter that leads to the particular area of pain, thus dispensing the medication directly.
For some people, this is a life saver.

[mrmichael67]

You are not out of time.  The pump system has three parts.  A pump, catheter, and an access port.  Like you said, the pumps feed the meds through the catheter to the problem area.  The access port is used so the doctor can inject meds directly to the problem area, bypassing the pump.  Morphine and hydromorphone (dilaudid) are the two most common meds.  Fentanyl (sublimaze) can also be used as well as other types of meds that are non-opioid.

[cdh]

Angst and mrmichael67 I would like to thank the both of you for your responses. I have already given my Doctor the go ahead after watching a video on the procedure. The aftermath of the procedure is what is scaring the hell out of me. After my back surgery the Surgeon was not able to control my pain. I had to beg him to up the Demerol dosage I was getting through the IV. I had a button I was suppose to push for the drug to be delivered every 15 minutes. I constantly pushed that button to no or very little results. I remember one of the nurses being surprised at how quickly my bag of Demerol was running out. She said I was pushing the button every single time I was able to get the medicine. I still was not getting pain relief. Looking back I believe it was my abusing the oxycontin (at that time I was chewing my pills) that caused the Doc not being able to medicate me. Finally I was released from the hospital and was able to medicate myself and was able to manage my pain much better. Surely the Doc doing the procedure (who knows my prescription) will be able to medicate me properly after the procedure. I am not abusing the MS CONTIN at this point so hopefully all will go well. My surgery is scheduled for May 9, my Doc is moving very quickly on this.

[skipper]

ok now i'm back:
this sturff i did/the doc did to my neck.... well i'm still really shocked how much 90 miles up and 90 miles back did to me today! i don't even think taking more oxy will help much! i'm considering hi-jacking a semi full of coffee....wait i remember i have almost a # of Community coffee with *CHICORY* !!!! that might be enough to get myself up and at it...
angst:
yes, i'ld like to see more poetry coming out of me too! the first thing i'll have too do is get up and get writing!actually i have several that might be intresting, i'm just not sure where i put them!
badgirl:
total hip replacement  -- YOW!   actually the summer 2000 and the
summer of 2001 were spent recovering from  cervical spine surgery! the january between i was told by my neuro surgeon that "we" had to redo the work from the summer before. i believe he said (all in one breath) "the fussion at c5/c6 failed...we will have to redo it...(in preperation) i'm taking you off all opiates.... oh yeah, and you must quit smoking for 50 days before i can opperate this time1"        things sometimes sink in slow,
for me. the following saturday afternoon i had a gun in my mouth,
and tear drops in my eyes...the whole thing was really stupid an selfish on my part. i did have a few thing s going for me...i/m
still here! you know the most important thing i learned from all
this? there is a way through anything. so thursday 5-9-02, you
bet i'll think/pray for you. just remember, there is a way thru!!
oh yeah...i did quit smokeing!!
hey jess:
give me a call. i think i gave you my number and address...if not
post to me and i'll e-mail it to you. remeber, the only i recieve
e-mail is at work, so if ya' give me heads up by posting tonight,
ok? gee i hope that made sense....

keep an angel on your shoulder
kip

[cdh]

Though I am scared or worried about the pain after the surgery, I am looking forward to the meds I will recieve before the surgery. I guess I am pretty sick.

[Mace]

I have a question about the pump you guys were talking about. My doctor told me that he was considering implanting “the Pump”  to better manage my increasing pain. After I left his office I started thinking about how it might work, (after I leave I always think of the questions never when I am talking with him!) What is the advantage of having the pain med injected into the pain area, in my case my lower back. As I understand the morphine he would inject into the pain area, is a drug that is delivered by the blood stream, or is systemic. Is not opiates a general pain reliever and not local? Hope I worded this question right, I know little about medical procedures other than the many operations I have endured over the last few years. I am currently taking 40mg oxycontin 3x a day (for almost 4 years). I have been complaining to my doctor that the oxy is draining my strength and I am depressed about having to be tied to the damn pill bottle. Any thoughts on this subject would be greatly appreciated.

[mrmichael67]

The pump delivers the drug to the intrathecal space in the spinal cord.  Delivering the drug there achieves cutting off the pain before it can reach the brain.  Smaller doses of the medication can be used therefore reducing side effects.  I am sure that is why your doctor suggested it.

[Mace]

Thank you for your reply. I had done some searching through the internet for info about the pump. It wasn’t until I did a search on “Google” with the word you used “intrathecal” that I found the following site.

http://www.medtronic.com/neuro/paintherapies/pain_treatment_ladder/drug_infusion/drug_drug_deliv.html

The idea of the implant is scary but it might be worth the risks.

[groovygirl]

yes you should write more!  not only is your writing beautiful, but i bet it's good therapy for your too. i've just started writing a book...i'm a journalist by trade, but creative writing is my passion.  sometimes, sticking with this endeavor until it's finished will be a chore, but if you put aside a certain amount of time per day just for writing, it can be accomplished.  of course, some days all that will be put on paper will be total ****, but it's the excercise and discipline of writing something every day that will get you somewhere.

like going to a meeting for instance...you don't always want to go, but many times after you're glad you did.

when did you quit smoking? good going!  that is my next goal.  i quit for 3 years - quit when i found out i was pregnant.  now, my baby is almost 6 - this month.  so, i better get moving.  i quit, so i'd have a healthy baby, now i need to quit so my daughter will have a healthy mom who will be around to possibly play with her grandchildren.  i'm hoping that quitting this time will be a piece of cake compared with the hell i've been thru this past year....

i hope you all are doing ok.  hinkster, did you find the info that you needed about methadone?  what did you think about the site i told you about?

[Hinkster]

Hi,
That site is fantastic. Thanks again. I've been on it for two days. Pretty much everything I want to know. I'll be seeing my
Dr. on the 9th at least I'll know more of what she is talking
about and a few things to ask her.
Tom

[Hinkster]

I forgot to ask you. You know I'am from Western Mass. Do you
write for the Globe or Herald or the Boston Phoenix? I'd like
to read some of your stuff.
Tom

[angst]

I could not email you back.  Something askew in your address.  Look at it again, and we'll try again.  I had written a few paragraphs and hit send.  It came back that I had given the wrong address.  It is worth another chance.  Ava

[mrmichael67]

Why did the doctor change your aunt's meds?  If she was doing fine on the oxy, he should have left well enough alone.

[angst]

it was my mistake.   i found it and straightened it out.  i hope you got my email.  you will find your way.  i have faith in you. good luck and Blessings.

[GOD]

My Aunt said that she was still experiencing pain with the OXYs.. It is true that she's feeling NO PAIN (as in HIGH as a kite) right now on the Morphine sulphate, and I think that maybe that's just what she wants, but I just wonder why the doctor didn't up her dose on Oxycontin first... Shr seems to build up her tolerance quite fast, as each month for the past 4 months, they have upped her dose. Maybe her body will get used to her current Morpnie sulfate dosage, but if that's the case, I have a feeling that she will want something for breakthrough pain..

It's a great day out today, so ENJOY IT!

I'm outta here!
Jess

[OxyDout]

I just wanted to say hello to everyone and ask how all of you are doing?  I'm doing well, although I'm experiencing some "slight" depression, if thats possible. I'm not too bad, but I'm not as motivated right now. I'm doing well, I haven't used and I do not plan on it either. I love life much better when I can just do what I want to do and not worry about having drugs with me, you know?? Well, I'm off to work, I really hope all is well.

GWH

[skipper]

hey everyone:

it's dog that really matters.

had the living ****
kicked out of me while hearing
dot com mantras drone-

files, extensions, hard
drive, cd rom, desktop-on
and on-fingers of

hideous colors
click, click, clicking. mutters of
kill bill gates- windows 98.

keyboards like a stair-step
to hell.  another day in the
mundane working world.

so- home i go to
walk the dog. matters of much
more earthly concerns.

doing his whirling
dervish in just the right spot
to ****-picked with much

careful k-9 thought.
he lifts his nose to the north,
knowing snow will come

sniffing mailbox posts
checking his pee mail, pondering
the k-9 gossip.

kip folsom ....feb. 2001

jessesarpy:
call me at 390-2615

[singer]

i have been off vics es 15 per day for one month. post operative problem hooked for one year. i am now on buprenex 0.6 mlgms. 3 times per day. it helps with the pain and i have no desire for the vics. has anyone ever taken buprenex or now about it. the singer.

[angst]

Great little ditty.  That was really cool how you put yourself in the mind of your dog.  I think pets are somehow and sometimes better company than that of the two legged kind.  Please keep them coming.  They are uplifting.  If you feel the need to post something things not as friendly, I still would like to read your poetry.  Hope things are going well for you.  Ava

[angst]

I have no experience with buprenex.  Lots of people on this post have.  Read some earlier posts, see their nicknames, and post to them.  Most everyone on this post are friendly and helpful.  Give them a day or so to see your post.

[Nod]

Singer, how are you?  Glad to hear the progress you have made. Thats great.  Last we talked I was tappering down.  Well I made it one day then went right back to it.  That was earlier this year.  Well, I tappered again and this time I have been 100% hydro free for over 2 weeks.  Things feel different this time. I'm tired of going thru the tapper and WD's.  It really beats up me up.  I too have not had the cravings hit me yet.  Like I said just weird this time... and I'm glad.  So nice to have a clear mind again.  Have to deal with the pain but I'd rather do that than suffer the slow death of addiction and dependeny.  

Again, glad to hear your doing well.  I'm right there with you.
Take good care,
Nod

[Witchywoman]

Hi Singer,
I've been in recovery from hydro, clean since last August.  I did it cold turkey, didn't know about bup at the time.

I found out about bup as an alternate pain reliever a while back, and I take it occassionally for pain. I take one sublingual .2mg tab and get decent pain relief for a full day and partially into the next. Maybe I'm just more sensitive than most folks.

It is an opiate, though I never feel a buzz from it, I still use a lot of caution, since I never want to get physically dependant on anything every again. I don't take it very often but when the pain gets too intense it is good to have around.

If you have been on it for a while, I've heard that if you want to get off it is not too hard of a withdrawal, and almost painless if you taper it slowly. There may be others here who can tell you more about it.

nice to meet you and I hope you are doing ok!

WW

[groovygirl]

i am currently on buprenex - tapering off it very gradually.  it works great for w/d and mood...no depression.  however, it is addicting and needs to be treated as carefully as any other opiate.  i use it in the injection form, and my goal is to get down to 1/4 amp per day before i stop altogether.  actually, i may not completely stop - my doc has recommended i stay on it for migraines or at least take it as needed.  heroinetimes.com has some info on it, and many other articles can be found online that can explain its properties better.  healthcarepharma, an online/overseas pharmacy carries the tabs (called temgesic i think) - very cheap. i'm not sure if i'm supposed to post that, but so many have asked about it.  my advice is to get it from a dr. and be monitored by a dr. it is supposed to be approved soon for detox - supposedly doctors will be able to prescribe it.  right now, you have to get it prescribed for pain or "off label".  when it finally comes out, it will be combined with naltrexone (sp) - i don't know much about that either, so you'd have to look it up.

anyway, my experience is that it is hard to completely give up buprenex - just like any other opiate.  many will argue that point with me, but i'm telling you how it is for me.  i tell people i go thru w/d from it, and they tell me that's not possible...go figure.

anyhow, good luck - if you have any more questions about buprenex, let me know...i'll try to answer them.

[tex3]

Singer -- I took the bup for quite awhile for chronic pain, and it was a lifesaver for me. It is a partial agonist/antagonist. I'm writing an article about it and have done quite a bit of research on it. Email me if you want additional information (***@****).

Groovy -- I'm a journalist by trade and schooling too, although I crossed over to the other side and went into PR, which I did for the past 5 years. I want to write a book, too, and will probably never have another chance, as I will have to go back to work this fall if I don't start bringing in some money. My husband does well but we've had to give up a lot without my income, and we have no insurance (the big kicker). I'm doing some freelance work for the paper I used to work for. I've thought about working for one of the local TV stations but that's just not my passion. But it's also hard for me to go back to journalism after doing PR. I worked for govt agencies (law enforcement) and got so disgusted with many of the reporters, but then again I don't have to become one of those. My husband wants me to get a job with one of the large high-tech companies here, as the money would be much, much better. This sounds stupid but I just can't do it; it doesn't satisfy my "soul" and I don't want to go back to that world (I did that while working my way through college, and I was miserable). So I'm in limbo for now.

Here's to a great day for all of us. Y'all have been so good for me, and have really helped me through this tough period. Thank you.

Angst, how is the job going?

Meagain, how are you feeling? I hope happy...tracy

[angst]

once i took a job my ex-husband----let's see we married in 1988 and divorced in 1998----yeah, he was my exhusband, forced me to take.  i would be nursing at a private, poor hospital.  i worked on the oncology and med/surg floor.  i had 7-9 patients for 12 hours, as soon as we had a discharge, another came in and if it was your turn, you got it.  i always tried to take 8 to start with, i had a better chance that way.  the stress of working under doctors who always had to take patients back to surgery for bleeding or infection, stressed me out.  soon the wastages looked too good to flush down the sink.  i was back to using in no time.  take the job your heart and soul tell you to take.  it will keep you safer.
i do not blame my ex for the relapses.  i blame not being able to make na meetings as i was before i started working 12 hour days.  4 on 2 off, 3 on 4 off, but i was so exhausted that i slept for a day then took care of business and cooked for my family.
so i say follow your heart.  you my have to keep freelancing for the paper, but that would leave you time to write the book.  if you do not write the book, you might regret it a lot.

[tex3]

Thanks for that post. You're right about everything. When I left the newspaper (I was fulltime but the pay sucked) to work for the police department (PR) I was really bummed. I loved working for the PD but was driving 1 1/2 each way as the traffic SUCKED. I was on call 2 weeks a month and went to crime scenes probably 3-4 times a week -- these were almost always homicides or traffic fatalities, which got to be a real downer. But I thrived on it and I was really good at my job. Extremely high stress though, which probably contributed to my rapid decline with the hydro. For a lot of reasons things got really bad, and I quit to save my marriage and my sanity. I had an offer from the sheriff's office, and the drive was only 10 mins, so I took it. I became the sheriff's right-hand person. I was, however, on call 24-7. Stayed for 2 years, left for many reasons not long after my husband and I seperated. We are back together, but he doesn't want me to ever work with cops again. As I don't want to do PR for a big corporation, my options are limited. We're making it but I hate being broke, and I really need insurance for my kids. Even so, I'm going to work my butt off this summer, freelancing and working on my book, and maybe I will make enough to stay home even after the kids go back to school. We're thinking of moving to a different city, south of here. I have mixed feelings about that, but things in this town got really bad for me when I quit the SO. Long story.
Anyway thanks for the post. I feel for you, working under those conditions at the hospital. I don't think I could do that. I hope you're enjoying the new career. You sound like you will be successful in any venture you choose. tracy

[groovygirl]

what is SO?  it sounds like a pretty tough city that you work in with 3 or 4 homicides (or traffic deaths) every week...i would think that kind of stress would drive many to drinking or drugs.  if you don't mind my asking, where do you live?

[GOD]

I work in a department that uses abbreviations for EVERYTHING.
With confidence, I can tell you the "SO" = Sheriff's Office

[groovygirl]

oh...duh.  i guess i'm not up on law enforcement lingo.  thank:)

[singer]

thanks to all for the response. it is great to have friends you never met and are able to pour out to. i got a second opinion from a new surgeon and he claims i have nerve damage due to the hernia surgery. one more shot at injections. if that fails they are going back in. in any case it should be over soon and then i start weening off the buprenex. thanks again to all you guys are great. singer.

[groovygirl]

sorry to hear about the hernia situation...what happens next with that?

when you said "one more shot at injections," did you mean buprenex?  have you tried the buprenex before?  i am having a terrible time weaning off it - i find it to be almost as addicting as vics.  i must be in the minority tho, because everyone else seems to find it to be a wonder drug.  i like it - they say it makes you feel "normal," but i don't remember feeling this good normally when i wasn't an addict.

i need to admit this to someone, so i guess here is as good a place as any.  here goes....i ran out of buprenex early as usual yesterday.  i wasn't supposed to get more until monday, and i couldn't bear the thought of going thru the weekend without any.  my dr. had given me a script which just said on it, patient uses buprenex which needs syringes, etc.  it was so i wouldn't be questioned on the plane.  i took it to a pharmacy, and told them i ran out and needed enough to get me thru a couple days.  they gave me ten.  they did say that it wasn't a real script, so they may have to contact the dr.  at that point i couldn't turn back.  the dr. is supposed to send my order out today, but i've been so afraid all day that the pharmacy has called him.  ****!  this is the second time i have done this.  i'm so afraid i'm going to get in trouble...

how can i be this addicted to buprenex?  i feel like i am the only one in the world....what a loser huh?

[hippy]

your not a loser, just an addict.
The thought of with drawls is a scary thought , remember we sometimes make it out to be worse than it is.
I read all your post ,you seem to be like me in the area of tapering, that is i always had a hard time tappering and that is an understatement. I just had no sucess with tapering.
I had some sucess when i would give the meds to my wife , that always worked good. But then i would find a secret connection
and screw it up and be back to square one, that was my story for about 3 years, untill i found this fourm.
I think we just have to keep trying untill we get to a point of
of willingness and luck, everybody here understands and has been through it many times. hang in there it will get better.
I was always told everything happens for a reason?
peace

[Witchywoman]

Hi groovy..don't be too hard on yourself, and be proud of yourself that you are able to talk about it here.  At least here people understand and won't judge you. And keeping it a secret just feeds the shame that sustains the addiction even more.

I've read other people's posting saying they got addicted to buprenex, so you're not the only one.  I don't ever feel any buzz from it at all, but maybe that is because I take a very low dose, and only once in a while.  

Just never give up..never, ever give up.

love,
WW

[angst]

I read most of your posts.  You always sound so together.  If you are having trouble with buprenex, think about me on the methadone.  If the boost starts weaning on me, I can just tell my counseller.  He will put me in for a 10mg per day increase.  I have to watch that.  I do not want the detox to be that bad.  The more methadone my body gets used to, the harder the detox will be.  It has such a long half life, 36 hours.  So it really builds up in my system.  Detoxing is really difficult.
This forum is safe for us to discuss our issues with the medications.  You are safe to admit anything.  It feels better to get things off your chest.
So here it goes.  I run out of my Xanax 1 or 2 days early.  I have, in the not so far past, taken 2mg 6 times a day, prescribed.  My doc had a talk with me.  I settled down to a heathier 2mg qid.  I get real anxious, can't breath with my asthma, and feel like I have to take that pill after I use my albuterol inhaler.
I know I have many reasons to be on the xanax, but I'm pretty sure that I am addicted also.

[skidrow]

Hello everyone,

Im a newbie to this forum, but not a newbie to chronic pain.

My question is this, Ive taken lots of pain meds over the years for 5 neck surgeries and I have had the best luck with Hydrocodone. Ive had Oxycontin...Ms Continin....all of the strong medicines. On my last visit to my Dr, I was in terrible pain and my doctor gave me a shot...It worked so damn good, he is going to prescribe it to me.
I asked him what it was, but I cannot remember, just it started with the letter N. He also told me it was a form of synthedic morphine and it was non adictive, and I can take it for breakthrough pain and dump my oxy IR,s and Percocets, and keep my Lortab 10mg for pain control..any ideas on what this injection was, would love to research it and see what I can find out.If its non adictive and work so good/ this is for me.................any ideas on what this was, I do appreciate any and all input.......thanx SkidRow.

[mrmichael67]

It is most likely Nubain.

[Lesann10]

I have been in chronic pain for years ( I have a very large cyst on my brain and have and ruptured disk in my neck).  I have taken just about every painkiller known to man and I tried stadol nose spray for the first time 3 days ago...  It was the worst night of my life.  After using it, it took about 15 minutes and at first it seemed like is was going to work.  I then started seeing things everytime I closed my eyes and it scared me to death.  It didn't get rid of my migraine, it made it worse and then my vomiting got extremely bad and I threw up for about 7 hours. I flushed the stuff down the toilet the next day.  Please be careful with this stuff, I believe it to be extremely dangerous.  I am feeling better back on a small dose of pain meds rather than go through that again.  If you have any questions feel free to contact me at ***@****.  I feel so sorry for anyone that is in this circumstance.  Pain can be such an awful thing, it can take over your life.  I have 4 kids that I have to support.