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I am trying to quit my 10 a day norco habbit. I have this woman who sells them to me for $5 a piece, and I have been buying them from her for three years. She has come to rely on my money. I tried to tell her on Monday that I did not want anymore. That I simply do not have the funds. She was angry. She talked me in to saying I would still meet with her this month. She wants me to give her money tomorrow. Deep down, I know I do not want to, but I am physically and emotionally terrified of pissing off and ending my only source to this medication. I have NO pain issues, and I have only ever taken this for enjoyment. I am terrified of withdrawals. I know that if I buy more, I will just be prolonging the inevitable, but I can't help but want to. I have to make a decision now. I even got smart limits on my phone so I can block her call although I am sure she will find another way. I have a couple of hours to decide. I am so scared to tell her no and ignore her, but I am also reluctant to give her up. It is so messed up. I know. I need advice and someone to help me sort through this who has been there.  
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Smart move !

Toss all the dope and get clean you wont regret it. It's going to be a tough weekend but you can do it. W/ds are a necessary evil to get clean but they are only temporary. So make your move and do it. We will be here to offer support.

Take care & God bless you,

Dafishman
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O.K. I read protocol for assisted opiate withdrawal. It seems to really stem around the use of a sauna. I am not sure I even have one anywhere near where I am as I live in the country, so I am pretty sure that is out of the questions, although it would be awesome if I could figure out how. Also, there is not way I can take off work. I am a teacher, and my mom has cancer. We are allotted a certain amount of days, and I have already used mine to help my mom. Just no way I can take off work. I have to work through this. I have planned to stop on a Friday. So, I will hit day three on Sunday. Hopefully that will be helpful as I have always tried quitting on a Monday. Almost impossible. I do have Klonopin, and I think my DR will renew if I ask. I really never take these, but I guess I could use them for sleep. All in all, it was helpful to read, but I am not sure I could participate in the entire program. I have looked at the Thomas Recipe, and from pervious times, I know that vitamins help me a lit. Although, I have never take L Tyrosine. Vitamin C helps.  
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Cat,
I wish I have known about this site before detoxing. Go to the health pages (right hand side of page) and click on "Protocol for unassisted opiate w/d" That may help you.
As far as the dealer, can you just tell her "look, these things  are ruining my life and I am done. You can hollar, scream whatever you need to do, but I'm done. If you call me or harrass me I WILL call teh police. period"...

as far as you fear of cutting her off, I do understand that. I had that same feeling every time i had to do it. it was like i had this little voice "maybe, just maybe you can do them later when you're not hooked or when your'e sad or when you hve a function" forget it. It doesnt work that way.

Either do it all the way or dont. I knwo you can, you know you can and everyone here wil support you. Stay strong. Keep posting. God Bless, Sweat
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I do not recommend tramadol.It is a highly addicting drug as well.Use otc pain meds in recommended doses and all the vitamins listed on the vitamin regimen and amino acid protocol.Your bad days should be over in about 4to 7 days and after that each day gets better.
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If you are really serious I would change your phone #.It is cheaper than buying more dope and better for you.You have support in your BF and with his and our help will get over this.It is time to make a big decision in your life and stick with it.If you want the clean life better than the drugged life you will succeed and everyone will help you.You are more important than your so called friend the dealer.She will probably find someone else to peddle her drugs to and you can be clean and free of her.Keep posting.
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Tramadol helped me so much one time when I came off. However, I do not know how to get them. They do really help though. Especially if you still have to work. But I have heard they can also be addictive although I never got high on them. They evened out the depression and helped with the body aches.
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Well, at least your friend was nice to you. I just know that when I cut her off tomorrow she will go nuts. This is what happened. I told her I was broke, my cards were maxed, and I could not meet with her anymore. She told me that she could not believe I was doing this to her. That she has always been there for me, and I am leaving her high and dry. From there, she made me feel so bad that I just said I would meet with her this month. Give her part of the money on Friday and then the rest on Feb 5. I started thinking about it. I would be left with more debt and nothing to show for it. She would be about $800 richer. So, after lots of thought this week, I decided to stick by my plan to quit next weekend. It old my BF and he was very supportive. He is amazing with this stuff although he is very tired of going back and forth with me trying to quit and relapsing. As we talked it through, he encouraged me to end the relationship with the supplier. He told me to not let her get to me and that she deserves no explanation at all. Just don't call her. So, I blocked her number. Then I freaked and unblocked it. Then I blocked it again after she text me this morning to ask if we were still meeting. I would not be getting any tomorrow, just giving her an advance for the 5th. Probably $200. After sending the text that said I would meet her, I felt sick. Why would I want to do this? Give someone else money that is killing me when I WANT to stop. But I am still haunted at how hard it is to give them up. Me not showing up tomorrow will be the ultimate act of giving them up. No more source=no more hydrocodone. The first time in three years. So, I posted on here. You all said to take the plunge with you, so here I am, taking the plunge. I asked BF if he could just call her for me tonight when we go to the mall, and he said he would. He said he needs not explain anything to her, but he will say, leave my GF alone, and leave me alone. It is over. I have to committ to this, and I believe this will be the ultimate committment. I am still tapering, but not by much. Still at about  7-8 a day. Will be out soon. I am plaing around with the idea of just changin my # to not have to involve BF. There are some things I have done that I would rather him not know about and she knows, so she might tell him out of anger. Also, I am not sure the calls with cease even if he calls her. She will be desperate and I have to be strong and prepared. No turning back.
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THAT DEALER IS REALLLLY DUMB- TELL HER YOU WILL TURN HER IN-- YOU CAN'T GET IN TROUBLE IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY PILLS -- EVEN IF YOU SAID YOU TOOK THEM IN THE PAST---  I GOT OFF HYDROS WITH TRAMADOL-- WORKED WONDERFULLL FOR ME --- THEN QUIT TRAMADOL BEFORE I GOT TOOOOO LIKE IT-- GOOGLE TRAMADOL-- ANOTHER WAY YOU MAY GO IS --- BUY THESE LAST PILLS AND TELL HER  NNOOO MMMORE----- THEN WEAN YOURSELF OFF -- BUT STICK TOO IT--- LOOK ON THE HEALTH PAGES FOR AMINO ACIDS AND THOMAS RECIEPE--- HOPE ALL TURNS OUT--- BUT REALLY THE DEALER IS SO DUMB--  YOU COULD CALL THE COPS AND SET HER UP FOR A BUST-- THAT WILL TAKE CARE OF HER PROBLEM ALSO   LOL
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Hey Cat...I had a similar experience. A friend of mine was giving them to me. The day i called her and said no more, she said to me "its good that you called becasue I was ready to cut you off anyway". If this person is pee oed becasue she wont have your income, that means she wants you to stay sick. We dont need "friends" like that, hun. You will feel so great about yourself. Take the plunge and get clean with the rest of us! So glad you posted!
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Wow, that was extremely helpful. I read the posts, and I started thinking how right you all are. I just know that when I do not answer her calls tomorrow (she thinks I will be coming for my monthly visit) that she will go insane. I think she will call me from other number and stuff. For goodness sake, I was giving this woman so much money that she stopped working. Who would not freak out? But, you all are right. I cannot have sympathy for her because she doesn't care about me. She only wants my money. My guy friend says he is going to call or text her, offer no explanation, and say that she has to never call me again. It is over. I am not strong enough to tell her, for I know how terrible I will feel when she comes back with mean words. I just need to concentrate on me and he is willing to do the dirty work for me so I can do just that. I thought about changin my cell #, but that is like $40. I am not sure I want to change the # that is on all my bank statements and stuff. I have her blocked. I am sure she could get around that. Maybe I should look into changing it. That would put an end to all this nonsence.  
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By the way I wanted to add my own experience with this. My dealer was my friend long before she became my dealer. Its tough because I know I'll have to avoid her after Monday. She knows I'm quitting and told me not to call her for pills after Monday and if I do she is going to tell me no. She makes some pretty good money off me when I run out of my scripts but still she would rather see me get better then continue on the path. She also told me that she plans on quitting dealing after she gets rid of the pills she has now.  She does not do the pills herself, just sells them and since she has been my only source when I run out I no longer have a source and I'm glad I don't. An addict will always find a way if they really want them but knowing my source is finished will make it less tempting to give in.
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Have a friend answer your phone, preferably a male with a gruff voice and have him answer ''_________ police department'' (Insert your city in blank) lol I'll bet you never hear from her again!!

Ok all jokes aside. Your life is far more important to you then making sure this ''friend'' keeps her little side income. A real friend would want to see you get clean, not continue along the path of self destruction. I can understand where your coming from. By telling her to bugger off you are taking the huge step in getting serious about kicking pills. Its like losing your security blanket only pills only make us feel secure but in fact they take everything that really provides us with security away. Pills are devious and I have finally made the decision to stop bullshitting myself and as of Monday will be going ct. I'm scared of life without oxys but enough is enough. The madness has to end now. I even had myself convinced that I could detox and then have my brother dole out my meds to me as prescribed. Umm, bad idea to say the least and the people here helped me to see just how insane that was. Take the plunge with me and lets get back to living not just existing on pills. Im here for you and so is everyone else. Your ''friend'' will find another addict to supply her with money and you need to put yourself first.
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When I made the phone call to my connection it supprised me, it was like another person did it. But I did. Because I decieded I wanted my life back.  Our connections don't want us to stop. My oxy person was getting 1000 from me some months during my script runout time.  FREE drugs may even come your way. But if you want to get clean you have to make the choice.
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change your cell #, do what ever it takes to avoid her. Like sarah said you have to get into your mind that you are fighting for your life, because you are! If you dont stop then one day it will kill you. Dont do it for the money you will save do it for your life.
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Aftercare means going to some form of counseling or meetings( NA or AA for instance) to help with quitting.  For many people especially those who have been using for a long time aftercare is essential.  Going through the wd's is a pain but they're gone within a week or two.  While you are feeling horrible it's easy to resolve never to put yourself through that again and really believe that you mean it.  For many people it's only after the physical wd's are gone that they begin having thoughts about using again and I'm speaking from personal experience.  During the wd's I can't even imagine why I would ever take another pill.  After they're gone my mind tries to trick me.
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I think I am going to have a friend tell her to leave me alone so there is no descrepancy with me wanting her to go away. For some reason, I cannot woman up and do it. I can't take the texts and calls that would come after that. I just need her to leave me alone so I can get better. It is so hard having someon hound you like this when all you want is to walk away. I have blocked her on my cell. This is a huge choice, but I choose myself.
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What is aftercare?
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Why would you want to support a person who is killing you?  Either you want off the pills or you dont.  So she will be p!ssed off.  Who cares.  She doesnt give a rats butt about you....only your money.  Getting clean requires a whole new living and we have to let go of our sources.  Check into some type of aftercare.  You need to get to the bottom of why you are using.  It really is a life saver and your life is worth saving.   sara
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