Help Please! Opioid Induced Hyperalgesia?

[SuzzQ]

I am off of Norco 10 for 21 days now. The pain is very bad. I have to lie down for pain to be tolerable. Taking aspirins, sometimes tylenol. I only went to one sale and the pain was unbearable and had to leave. I am very much wondering if this is the norm for me, or if it is still opioid induced Hyperalgesia? I took the pills for about 13 years. I am so hoping this is not the norm and eventually, the pain will get better. Anyone, who has any information would be greatly appreciated. I have searched the net and seems they don't seem to know how long it last or if the pain will ever subside. They only say to take other medications. I can't find an answer... I don't know what to do..

[DPS1952]

My mother who is close to 79 years old, was misdiagnosed with chronic pancreatitis.  She stayed two weeks at the Mayo Clinic in MN to find out that she really has hyperalgesia.  She has been taking Opana (30 milligrams) twice a day for the last six years.  The last couple of months, she cut back to one pill a day with taking a 10 milligram "break thru" when the pain is unbearable.  She has thoughts of suicide, has given up on her personal hygiene with a "no care" attitude.  I feel she is self-distructing and losing her mind.  Everything I have been reading here, hits home.  Do any of you see a psychiatrist?  Her family doctor doesn't know what to do for her.  Her pain med doctor has been absolutely no help.  He can't even remember what is ailing her.  I want my mother back.  To hear her cry, breaks my heart.  We have been trying to find a drug detox program without any luck.  We live in Petersburg, VA, which is close to Richmond, VA.  Any help you can give would greatly be appreciated.

[weaver71]

That 900 refills and giving oxi's as norco is why so many doctors are losing their licenses. There are many investigations going on nationwide for this kind of mess up. Now you can see why so many are on the street. I never needed a script, all my 'friends' recieved more than they needed.

[weaver71]

Norco is hydrocodone 10mgs and acetamenophine 325mgs. Your pharmacy gave you Oxi's? Big mistake and a much stronger drug.

[katmandu516]

My primary Dr. wrote me an RX for Tramadols 75mg with 900 refills!!
Swear on everything it is true! The last time I picked them up before I quit the opioids 15 days ago, it said I have like 895 refills left. Now what Dr. in their right mind would right an opioid RX with like 900 refills? But she did.
I have to call the pharmacy tomorrow and tell them to cancel the RX and also I need to know if anybody noticed the excessive refills.
I think the whole thing is bizarre...Nobody at this huge pharmacy noticed this? God help us all.

[katmandu516]

I for one know that when my pain doctor wrote "Norco" on my scripts, I got Oxycodone at the pharmacy. Norco must be the brand name for Oxi's.
Hope that helped.

[olduser]

hi  I for one can not take gabapinton .fell down broke three ribs on it.kept the faith

[SuzzQ]

I wonder if taking the pain pills for so many years could mess up my brain functioning correctly... I cannot figure out how many years I have taken the pills.. I thought it was 13 years.. but, the numbers don't add up... 1991 to 2013... Honestly guys, I think the pain pills messed up my brain..

[SuzzQ]

Yes! You are right! It has been much more than 13 years!! The accident was in 1991... That's when they first gave me Hydrocodone.. So, I had been taking the pills... ? Man, I'm so bad at math!! Anyway, that is many more years than 13!! Why am I so bad at math.. Oh well.. 1991...to 2013.. How many years is that?  Oh my gosh?? Did I take those pills 23 years... or is my math off again.. That can't be possible..

[SuzzQ]

I found this really my most inspiring answer!! This made me smile and have hope!
You said... "At around two months pill free tge pain levels really reduced. I almost cound not believe it. "
Your comment, This comment, This still gives me hope EVERY SINGLE DAY, and I could never repay you for this comment!! I love looking at this comment every day... THANK YOU SO MUCH OxyTired!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SuzzQ]

I am taking a soma in the night and one klonopin 1mg. I was taking these prior to quitting norco, so one thing at a time. I intend to quit everything. I quit diet pepsi after drinking it for decades. I quit chocolate. I noticed I have cut way down on cigarettes since quitting the norcos, unintentionally. I take either aspirin or tylenol once or twice a day, depending on how much I do. Yesterday, I overdid it.. We should be careful of how much we do during the first weeks, even maybe to a month or more, doing too much can cause worse pain than usual. I am able to do much more now, without the pain being so intense. When your pain is so bad you feel like your will faint from it.. surely time to give up the norco/ pain medication!!! They cause worse pain than you would be in if you took nothing at all...

[IBKleen]

Because it was two months for one person does not at all mean it will be two months for you. Why suffer? Find alternative pain treatments. Many of us chronic pain sufferers have.

[SuzzQ]

2 months.. Well, I've almost gone 1 month.. so, one more month... 4 weeks.. I am counting the weeks... though each day is a challenge and I find myself praying a lot. 2 months.. 60 days... thats a lot of days, but the days will eventually pass by anyway.. : O )  Thank You

[SuzzQ]

Its so good to hear from people who are in pain, and acquired worse pain from the pills. You have been through it and you know the pain subsides quite a bit. If I don't do much, the pain usually isn't too bad. Soon as I do anything , ie, stand too long, repetitive things.. the pain is unbearable. I am giving up estate sailing for a while. It is simply embarrassing. Anyone in that much pain should be in bed, or doing something different. I used to not like the doctors who would not give out pills... Now, I'm so for them!! What a switch... : O )   Thank you so much for that information.. Give me such hope.. bless your heart and Airely too... : O)

[SuzzQ]

I was ignorant about the pain pills for so long... The longer on the pain pills, the more pain I was in. About 13 years for the pain to become unbearable. I will never touch one of those pills again... I only need learn my lesson one time. One thing I do not need is more pain than what I have. I can't wait until I have 6 months behind me!!! But, the time will go by ... one week at a time is how I am doing it.. Anybody who has pain and goes back on those pills is crazy.. That's my honest opinion... Who wants to live in unbearable pain all the time.. I'm just waiting... waiting.. Soon it will be a month.. It's 23 days now.. another week will make a month.. things will only get better and better I am assured.. : O )

[SuzzQ]

And , really , Congratulations on 6 mos!!!! : O )

[ImDONENoMore]

The Dr. should not be always willing to write out a prescription.  You need to resolve that situation quickly or it will be way too easy to fall back into your old ways.  You have to do this and tell him/her the truth.  No way around that.

[SuzzQ]

Thank You! : O )   just time..

[SuzzQ]

Thank you ..  : O )  I feel happy just reading you guys posts.. Now, I can have hope! And, I know this will not be forever. I will read the link you sent. I just wanted to say thank you so very much!! I don't ever want to take Norco. That day when the pain was beyond belief, I was tempted to find some, even if I had to buy them or call back the doctor.. The doctor is always willing to write out a prescription.. I am so glad you guys wrote... I was at an end... I was thinking, this is ridiculous, I can't even go to one estate sale without being disabled completely from pain.. having to leave.. : O )

[Wildewoman]

It does take time for the pain to reduce. I have some bad days too - where the pain is just screaming. I then go back to the basics - hot bathes, OTC pain meds, stretches, chiropractor, etc. ANYTHING to alleviate the pain.

I have an inversion table too - upside down for 5-7 minutes helps.

I guess what I'm saying is - do whatever you need to do to help with the pain - EXCEPT take a Norco.

I have found that if I spend a few minutes each day - devoted to my back - i.e.) floor work - stretches, sit ups, etc. It helps.

Keep up the good work!

[OxyTired]

I can only comment on my personal experience. With my bad back (serious lumbar issues) with pain pills, when they wore off I had terrible pain spikes.
At around two months pill free tge pain levels really reduced. I almost cound not believe it.
I felt betrayed by pain management. What were they thinking? Didn't they know their opiates were increasing my pain levels by increasing the number of pain receptors in the brain.
At three months I gi some days without even nsaids. I have a chronic low level pain throughout the lumbar area most noticeable in the morning.
Sometime during the day not at all.
It gets much better with time!

[vicki595]

Norco is Hydrocodone 10mg...

[BarbRTR]

Hey there. I haven't read all the comments, so I might be repeating what was said. But it's possible you're still having high levels of pain from opiate use/detox. And it will probably get better. After as long as you used, it will take awhile for sensors to reset.

But, you do have real pain issues as well. Seems as if you might want to think on getting a new Dr, as you don't like yours. And then start thinking of alternative treatments and non addicting meds.

I'm not pain free, but I'm better than on the meds, and better than I was first couple months off of them too.

Good luck!

[3Xs_U_R_Out]

@Wendall...norco is a type of prescription narcotic pain medicine. Most people in this substance abuse forum have issues with prescription narcotics. So you will often here terms such as norco, percs for Percocet, etc here.