Help for Codein detox

[IrishGypo]

No BS,I have been on 20-30 30mg Codein now for about 5-6 years. I have tried quits before but never made it. Tried C/T to no avail. I took 4 30mg yaesterday morning and 4 last night, 3 at 09.30 hrs this morning and another 3 hrs at 17.00 hrs today. I feel terrible, aches pains legs, knee joints, dull headache the whole nine yards. My plani is to go for 4 x 2  x 30mg tomorrow. I have to get off this crap, my mind is going, memory terrible, body wrecked, I am just existing not living. I am starting a new job next week. I was getting codien from my doctor stopped last week and buying other scripts from people who dont take them. I have about 30 -40 tabs left, I want this to work! Any help or advice would be really apreciated. I was reading the old posts then found out how to get here. Please help!

[IrishGypo]

thanks eagle, yeh i feel a lot better today, but it is up then down, aches, then none, very strange. i took the 2 x 2 yesterday, but i was having a bad night, added 1, so i am going to keep it 2 x 3---30mg for today. i took first 3  at 11.30 today i plan next 3 for about 7 or 8.00 o clock tonight. if i shoot too low now i will cave in and i am not going to this time. i am geared up mentally, though of course apprehensive, and shaky about it. Eagle, cant take ibobrufen, due to stomach probs on permanent omepresole 20 mg daily now used to be 40 mg. i dont know if we have tynenol here in Ireland, iv'e only had it in USA. No tolilet runs yet, more movement of course but not like full c/t. i am reading a lot and using diversion methods for my addictive compulsive mind, a little depressed but i know its part of the process, crying at nothing emotinal films even reading sad things, i noticed in the past this always happens i get very emotional. tying to keep off the pity pot though, as this is a positive move to be free again, its been so long since i was FREE! thanks eagle for your support!

[eagle101]

You are doing quite well, dude! And I wholeheartedly agree that this is not something that you can hurry along. It will be what it will be. But you want to be successful. So do keep that mindset and all. I also had the nose drip but didnt do anything to address that one. I suppose a decent anti-hystamine type cold pill might do the job if its really a distraction? Are you doing anything OTC for the leg and headaches? The classic mix of ibuprophen and tylenol piggybacked will actually do a lot of good. And never worry about typo's here - its a lot like some folks speak a totally diffeent language when you read many of the posts. I also do a column for a paper on the Boy Scouts in our area - I was a Scout leader for 14 years and did the program with my youngest son - and typo's usually drive me crazy!!  Dont have complaint number one for your posts, though - - so you are good to go!  Keep with what works for you. We are all a bit different biologically.

[IrishGypo]

thanks eagle, yeh your right, no buzz at all in fact my knees are aching more since i took the night time dose. mentally i am enjoying the support of yourself and others, thanks a lot. it did stop my nose drip, but for some reason my knee joints always feel more pain than any other part, plus the dull headache. No toilet runs as yet, though i suffered with constant constipation throughout so it may take a few days to hit. i feel it better to stay on the 2 x 2 30mg for a few days yet, as i dont want to get too cocky and cave in as I have prior during attempted reducing. with c/t my max is 3 days then i just flood myself with stuff as you say, chasing a buzz i cant attain anymore, thanks a lot for your support. i spend more time trying to corect typos, than posting my mind is pretty far from concentration just now.

[eagle101]

Heres yet another saving grace from the Gods that be - - sex is very good to get endorphines and natural feel good chemicals going....so it could be worse. On the proactive side it may be time for a bottle of immodium and emetrol if you are having stomach issues...Anyway - go with that libido flow!  Your schedule is actually approaching a therapuetic regimine as oppossed to the search for a buzz ..... When the buzz leaves I dont believe that we ever really get it back - - we just keep chasing the dragon with some sort of hope that maybe the buzz will return. Fat chance! Keep up the good work and shortly you will be looking at post addiction things.............

[IrishGypo]

just took the 2 tabs but with a bowl of creamed rice. as (Iam sure you all did) I used to starve myself to get e better hit, so wouldn't eat due to that factor. then my appetite would go anyway after the codeine was taken. i know when i have tried before, i find it strange that my libido (think thats what it means) sexual urges become very strong during W/D, as its mostly no sex when i am stoned full time no urge at all, but withdrawl brings in on very strong, is that normal? i just realised that was 24 hours since i had my last dose of 3 tabs --90mg codeine yesterday. i think my nose tap (fawcet for USA cousins) will dry out for a while now, but one thing for sure i am taking this reducing serious, like medication, not dope. i am right on it mentally, but all your help is really appreciated. i feel a wee bit of a softy  for not going C /T but i dont want to fail this time. my fear of W/D is actually worse than i get but i just cant hack the instant quit. Ta!

[IrishGypo]

thanks a lot lauerel453, yeh codeine is tough enough never mind the other stuff, i am going to take 60 mg at 17.00 hrs and 60mg for bed about 23.00 hrs, but i will try and sleep before i have to take them or try 30mg instead of 60mg, its been a big jump and i have stuck it all day, feel weak as a kiten, and brain is fogged up bad the usual aches got I lost some sweat today, i was wringing wet had bath, shower changed twice, feel hungry but a little sick too! anyway, i am keeping to it and go for  2.30mg and 1 x 30mg tomorrow, instaed of the 2 x 2 today. I have to get myself in decent shape for work next wednesday. thanks a lot for your help and support. i'l check back about 20 mins. ta!

[laurel453]

Hi :)... this is a slow time here because our american members are not yet up but here i am if i can help you... It is true that codeine wds won't be as bad as others but stick to the mental positive work....because the mental part is the same for all of us and it is tough, your mind will keep giving you enough lies about how much you need your pills.. Don't believe any of them, you don't need them. But  we need pushing ourselves on that side, the mental one.... exercising and been busy is a great way ...i see that you are already taking vits, add a mineral supplement to help you with muscle aches and RLS ( magnesium+calcium and potasium )... read the thomas recipe and the amino acid protocol ( health pages, right side of your screen ) ... you can find some good advices there and remember to take each hour, day at a time and that THIS TOO SHALL PASS :)

[IrishGypo]

crashed from about 25-30 x 30 mg codeine to first day, 2 x 4 morn & night, second day x 3 tabs morn x 3 tabs evening.amazingly slept from 11.30 pm until 7.30 a. m this morning. its now 11.15 am 3 rd day have had nothing yet, feeling bad, nose dripping, aches, dull headache, depresion, fear, confusion, the usual, haven't hit the tolilet yet but can feel it. been eating well taking vits & minerals, milk thistle. my mind is giving in, though i will try for 2 x 2 tabs today when it gets too bad spaced out at least 6 hours in between doses. This isn't my usual W/D when I go C/T which doesn't last more than 3 days then I always give in. I notice after trying an episode of T/C I have to take 6 x 30mg codeine, followed by 5-6 in a couple of hours, then another 5 or so before I can feel a buzz, dont know why, I have never studied the medical side, you would think after none that maybe 3 would give you a buzz, never works that way with me. anyway, enough of that, i need some more inspiring words from you guys, i liked when i read "to be free of this poison for good", "keep on doing it" and all of the gee up stuff helps me, as my mind always quits the quit before my body. the best thing i heard yesterday was that codeine was mild W/D compared to other pain killers you mentioned, that made it easier for my mind. i have been in the garden with a machete chopping ivory etc sweating, but know how could Diversion Therapy can be for the mind! Feeling more crap since i started this post my breakfast feels like it may come up. a post would be nice from anybody. Ta!

[IrishGypo]

eagle, thanks for you telling me that codeine is a weak opiate, that is a mental boost anyway, for a start maybe I should  take 1 x 30 mg every two hours? would that be better? I dont know what Oxy or fentanyl is? my whole life has been plagued by addiction. I was a registerd heroin addict for 6 years during the 70's, then jail, then an alcoholic sober for 12 years in AA, then took up codeine, still dont drink but i know i only replaced one drug for another. anyway thats behind me, i am just looking for some comfort to help me with this. could be my fear of heroin detox years ago C/T in an institution frightens me too much. I feel better knowing the codeine W/D will be easier. I work at sea so cant go to NA, but really dont think I want to give me life to meetings again (Not knocking AA or NA by the way). erric 111, thanks for your comment too. a good gee up helps a great deal, thanks guys.

[eagle101]

The single saving grace for your post was your drug of choice - hereafter known as DOC - - codeine is a relatively weak opiate and it wont be as bad as oxy's or another choice. Now, having said that - disomfort is relative and it wont matter a whole lot to you that the DOC is codeine instead of oxy or fentanyl or something. My first piece of advice would be to quite spiking your serum levels by high doses ........ spread them out through the day instead of taking several at once.  Then work on making those smaller doses further and further apart..... MedHelp doesnt want tapering schedules posted. But you should get the idea. Starting a new job in a week may entice you to get through CT this time if you want to try.......But you are correct in that it doesnt matter a bit if it doesnt work for you.  Best of luck and keep posting for support and to get fresh ideas from people.

[erric111]

i honestly never had the will power to ween off percs..(250-300mg daily)..i always would want to in my head buy beinbg an addict i would take my last 10 and say f it ill just go to another drs office and get more..so i commend you for that..day #1 is always the worst. day # ***** just as bad..but by the end of day 3 youll feel some relief..by day #4 and 5 youll start feeling so much btr..by 1 week youlll be free of the poison..and have the rest of your life to look forward too..its sooo worth it..if you make it, and i know you can, get some support thru na or another type of group..its much easier than doing it alone..gooodluck and godbless