Hi everyone..Tim2H, Looky, tzlady, Shelby, Chros, Fladdict, cinnamon, and all Thanks for the support below!!

You are all so Awesome and Wonderful!

Thanks agian, everyone, for your support!

Only got 3-1/2 hours of sleep (along time ago) just kind of dragging my feet with these w/d's - okay though, just still shaky and anxiety.


"Jenn":  You must be in one good mood today, you've been making everyone laugh, since that first post with the little boy hidding...lol and lot of love!

"FLaddict",  I just posted for you below on your end of day 3 update - I'm so happy for you, you keep us all going!

"Shelby",  How are you tonight? I hope your body is feeling better (keep taking those Hot baths...lol)

TO  "DrugsAreHell" I was reading below - I know exactly what you mean with the J.W's, My whole family was, not anymore though...but I can relate to what you were trying to say in the post below...If you ever want to talk about it, shoot me a post!

"Chrosty": when do you get off work? Where are you at?

Love to all,

Todd

[PillsAreHell]

Hey man, hows it goin? I just don't understand J dubs. I mean, I kind of do, after all my dad tried to raise me as one....but it just pushed me further from religion. I will always remember the day a long time ago he told about when he was younger and didn't agree with it, and left the religion. He said his parents ignored him and he hated them for it. But then, he says, he realizes they were "right" and they were only doing it so he'd come back. I was like, "you didn't go back for the religion, you went back so your own parents would talk to you". The moral of that story is I know he will never want anything to do with me and it sucks. I love pops, but I'm nothin to him.

[K Todd]

It's not that,

What they did to your dad they call "disfellowshipped" him...because they want to keep the "congregation" clean.

When someone is in, they will not talk to anyone outside of their world...

But...It actually pushed me into a relationship w/ God later on in my 30's and not religion.

So it worked out better for me!

Your Dad does not hate you, I know "exactly" what he is thinking. He considers you to be "worldly" and if he talks to you, then the J.W's will kick him out again....

Real loving isnt it? I can show any JW the truth, with their own reading materials.

Your dad does not hate you....he is brainwashed, I pulled my mom out 3 years ago...that Man made doctrine really impacts people.....so

It is not your dad, it's Head Quaters in Brooklyn New York!

Love

Todd

[PillsAreHell]

Oh ya, they tried to brainwash me. When I was 15 and goin to court to try to live with my mom, who got disfellowshipped, they all told me I would die at "armageddon" if I went and lived with her. What makes you say that to a 15 year old? I just don't see the logic in their teachings....just thinking that I'm "worldly", or an "apostate", makes me want to laugh. I'm sure they tell him that I'm "satans pawn". What a crock. It's just horrible that they drill it into his head that God looks down on associating with YOUR OWN SON just because he doesn't share the same religious beliefs with you. I haven't talked to him in two years. It sucks. What if something happens to him or me and I never can say goodbye. It makes me sick. He doesn't even know about my drug problem, obviously, we don't talk. So it's not even because of that. I want to call him so bad, but I'll end up losing it and yelling at him. Do I try to call him?

[PillsAreHell]

And by the way, that religion is soooo full of hypocrites. My dad is the biggest fake of them all.....uugggh makes me sick. He's so different behind closed doors.  Sorry im rambling.

[K Todd]

You are 100% Exactly Right.....1914 and Armegedon!  Well they got shot down on that, because that generation has passed away,....so they made revisions.

They call themselfs "the world best know organization for being LOVING"

But...like you said, they declare, but dont live it

The 1st and 2nd Greatest commandment of God is: LOVE, and 2nd: Love Your Neighbor, and even your enemy. - That's the God I have a relationship with.

This is there very own material, but they refuse to do the 2nd Greatest, Loving Everyone!

Period!

Love and Feel for you my friend.

Shoot me an email anytime, for anything!  Or, if you want to know how we can get your dad to talk to you...it takes time and patience, BUT I know How...Because I know the JW's Inside and Out!!!!

<  ktodd_savedbygrace***@****  >

[PillsAreHell]

I would love to here your advice on that. I'll try to shoot ya an email tomm. I've got a busy day(thank god itll take my mind of things), so if not I will get to ya the next day. Thanks alot Todd. It's nice to know that there is people who understand. Thanks again brother. By the way, whats your story?? Tell me later. Goodnite and good luck.

Matt

[shelby74]

It's so good to see you posting!  I was a little worried there for awhile...glad your back. :)

I had a good day as you can see from my post.  Although, I have been up now for 22 hours, tired and cannot sleep - that's a problem.  I see that many here are having the same problem unfortunately.  

Took my long bath and my cat just hung out on the edge of the tub - staring at me.  He is a nut.  I think he knows I am not myself yet.  He is good therapy though!

I know what I am going to be praying for tonight - that everyone here can sleep!  And for "scared".  I hope she stays strong - it breaks my heart to see yet another person going through this ****!

Hug,

Shelby

[K Todd]

Jenny,

Good Job! I Love Jeramiah 32:27, - Finally good to hear from you! Don't worry these are my threads, so I'm not going war anymore.

That was great for "energy" - I grew up as a JW - and am so glad, I'm out that cult (religion) - But JW's pushed me into leaving.....9 years later, I met Christ, and have a one to one relationship with my Creator,

Biggggg Difference between religion, and have a personal relationship with our Loving God! - That's why I know =exactly where "energy's" dad is coming from...

God will never close His ear to anyone who seeks or calls for Him! - It's not only 144,000 - that have the priveledge, ANYONE!

"energy" Start w/ John Chapter 3 verse 16-18......God so love the world, He sent His Only...

I'll let you read the rest, so you can rejoice!

Jenny, you and Shelby must have been in great moods this morning....I read all the posts, and I'm still laughing!

LOL and lots of love,

Todd

[PillsAreHell]

Thanks for everything, I'm off to bed. Hopefully. Good night and good luck.

P.S. I got nyquil to help me sleep. But why did I buy the cherry kind? It reminds me of the "cherry juice" methadone. Chalk up one more bad call to me!!

[K Todd]

We all Love Ya,

Did you get my email above?

How close to Bend Orgeon is that? - I've been up there several times....

Maybe your busy again, my email is above for you!


Oh.....I think we all need Shelby's cat....it's doing something to her that is making her laughing and causing us to laugh...

Share your cat Shelby!......LOL and love,

Todd

"energy" email me or reply, k..

w/love

[cinnamonstix]

YES I KNOW God will help you. without a doubt. He said it HIMSELF...His plans for us are wonderful, and He wants us to prosper, be happy...
You see, look at how that verse touched you. Its NO mistake that I posted that tonight....God is using me to speak to you. I know He is. I feel it...His Grace shining on you and me, and I am SO happy He used me tonight to speak to you. Here is some more verses I ask you to read (and I prayed to God before I started leafing through the bible to find the right verses for you, and they just popped up instantly....)
Psalm 71, (about how God delievers us and clothes us in His righteousness)
Luke 12: 22-34 (I don't know why but I feel God really wants YOU to read this one, its about not worrying..if that makes any sense to you right now...)and Luke 15: 11-31. (again, I feel as if God is telling me to give you the story about the prodigal son.)
Okay...now, again I have a feeling some ppl here may not like me posting bible verses, and medhelp may remove them...so please right them down now. Do you have a bible? If so, please look at these verses when you can. And you have my email now, so lets start emailing each other about this. :)
***@****
And there is no need to thank ME, sweetie. This is from God to you, He's just using me as the 'middle woman' to get these verses to you. :) Like I said, I opened my bible, prayed for Him to give me guidance and the verses He wants me to give YOU, and these are the ones I came up with. I don't know you very well, and I don't know why He really pressed me to quote Luke 12 to you, its about worrying and NOT to worry...but I really feel He wanted you to read that. :)
I love you too! :) And I am glad to help you in any way I can. I am glad God chose to use ME tonight to reach out to YOU. :)

Love
Jenny

[cinnamonstix]

Yes, He does listen to anyone that earnestly seeks Him wholeheartedly. He says so Himself. I have known Christ as my savior now for about 15years...and OOOOOOHHHH have I backslidden many times...yet He is always there to pick me back up when I reach out for Him. He is a sovreign God...quick to compassion and slow to anger.....He loved us so much He sent His only Son to save us from ourselves!!!!!!!!!!! He has never let me down, even when I was at my worst. He has always provided for me.....and knowing that I will spend eternity with Him in Paradise is such a joy. I pray so much that more people will get to know Him... and accept His gift of salvation.


Love
Jenny

[wheredidmyenergygo?]

thanks Jen

Cherie(first time I posted my name)  I know Hes ther for me.  Just got out of a legalist marriage where he used God to his advantage.  I almost lost everything including my mind adn 5 children!!!!!  I just wish God would just sit on my shoulder and have a chat w/me.  Then I think of that joke about the flood!!!!  

[K Todd]

I'm suffering from Ambien w'd's - and you just have make it look so easy to fall asleep............lol

I'm sure you tired, after taking your kid in and all..right? I'm getting delirious...

Well, sweet dreams Jenn, and God Bless,

Keep in touch when you wake (I will probably still be up!) LOL

Love,

Todd

[cinnamonstix]

I'm not going to sleep! I'm wide awake! :) That's pillsarehell that is going to bed. you got us mixed up. :) lol
Hey, did you get that email I sent you? I want to make sure I sent it to the right person. I cut and pasted your email address in my send to bar...did ya get it?

Jen

[wheredidmyenergygo?]

You need to get a book or something.  Something that is not so stimuslating as this forum to you at this time.  I know that when I'm on her at night it keeps me gOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooing.  Not that I don't want you here but its true.  Also rubbing my feet together helps.  (lol but true!!)  

[Tim2H]

This is a very interesting thread. My next door neighbors are JW's and really caring people. The Grandfather tried to convert us and finally gave up. The thing is that they come over to my pool all summer long with the Great Grand children that live with their parents in the same home. He is a big wig in the JV's, I guess an elder or something like that. He never treated us differently and always speaks with us when we see him. I do notice that the children don't play much with the other kids on the street. If I am a "worldy person" it makes me wonder why he would come over to my home all the time. I respect his religion and I believe now he respects mine. They believe in Jesus and they say he "died on a stake" and don't mention the cross. I come from a long line of Babtists and although I am not in church every Sunday, I am religious.

Thanks everyone for the support yesterday! I did make it through and feel so much better this morning. Keep on hanging in there all because it does get better. I am very clear headed today and looking forward to doing some yard work.

Tim

[K Todd]

Did you get my email, Washington Girl????  LOL

Love Todd

[wheredidmyenergygo?]

No ***@****?

[wheredidmyenergygo?]

Wow!!!!!!  I thought my parents were legalistic!!!  I'm always afraid of knowledge, God is about grace.  I just can't imagine what you guys have been through.  See, the east coast sucks!!!  Too many extereme Baptsist!!!  Come to the west coast so I have someone to talk to.  Sorry, sick joke.  God isn't like what yu were led to believe though.  I wish I knew the bible better togive some verses.  I just know in my heart that God  loves me no matter what!!!!!

[K Todd]

LOL....with the sleep issue, I think you could probably speak in behalf for about 90% of us in here!  Keep praying, and so will I...

You and Jenny have been in great moods today, you make me laugh, even though it was tough w/ only having 7-1/2 hrs of sleep of the past 72 hours. Keep praying girl!....lol

yeah I hope "scared" will be ok

22 hours, I am on the same page,

where is Chros and Jenn?

Love,
Todd

[K Todd]

I can't stop laughing, because I am all about God's loving Grace and NOT religion;

I'm also laughing because I do live in the west coast (Orange / LA County) good old California.

Where do you live?

Love,

Todd

[shelby74]

I am glad I made you laugh...you guys always cheer me up too!

I am not sure where they are??  Hopefully sleeping! lol

I think this late at night everyone gets a little slap happy...they say laughter is good for the soul...maybe we can all laugh ourselves to sleep! lol

xo,

Shelby

[K Todd]

Only if we have someone to make us laugh, then we can have something to laugh ourselves to sleep...

Lots of Laughs and lots of love, (in our sleep deprived, delerious state (-:

Todd

Thanks so much Shelby!

God Bless You!

[wheredidmyenergygo?]

Having an emotional moment!!  Pillarehell had a moment with mother.  Hopefully the same thing that happened w/my son this evening.

I live in Washington.  I was in Tigard Orgon this last weekend(which was on HGTV minutles age) and fell in love with the area.

No wonder ou were up as late as me last night.  How long  have you been around?(The forum)  We have multipals in common, right?

[cinnamonstix]

Hiya! The storms seemed to have passed now so I think its safe to be online. I was reading what you were saying, pills..about the JW. (we are talking about the jehovas witnesses, right?) OK...now I am sure vikes suck is gonna come outta the woodwork and start bashing me for getting all biblical...but, I HAVE to say this. Pills...all I can say to you is that the JW are nothing but a cult...sure, they worship Jesus, only its THEIR jesus, not the Son of God.
wheredidmyenergygo...here is a verse I will share with you...it was the first verse I ever memorized because it means so much to me: Jeremiah 29:11-13
"For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord, plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Then you will call upon Me and come and pray to Me, and I will listen to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all of your heart. I will be found by you, declares the Lord, and will bring you back from captivity........"
WOW....that verse always gives me shivers. You notice how it says ''DECLARES" The Lord...not past tense, but present. DECLARES...meaning He is always here for us, then, now, til the end of time.
And the captivity....that can be anything..for us, its addictions, for some, its greed, or money.....maybe even a battered woman. HE promises to deliver us from captivity...and He can't break His promises, He's God. :)
Granted...the thing we, as humans cannot understand is its all in God's perfect timing...meaning, sometimes we don't get what we ask for right away. Sometimes we don't get what we ask for at all, because its not in His plan for us. God answers EVERY prayer..though sometimes the answer is No.....But I DO know that God wants us all to be healthy, and I KNOW that when you pray to Him to help you overcome your addiction, He won't deny you that. BUT...if you pray to Him to win the Lotto, weeeelllll....you may get a "No" on that one. lol
Its all His plan, His timing....and why shouldn't it be? He is our creator, He is in control.

OK OK...sorry to everyone especiallly you vikes suck, I know you are out there somewhere...I am not trying to make a bible study out of the forum, so please don't bash me. I was just truly trying to give wheredidmyenergygo a verse that she would like. (and for all of you, too.)

Oh, and wheredidmyenergygo...so you don't feel left out...(lol that was cute when you posted that last night) here's my email: ***@****
That's for you, too Ktodd! :)

[K Todd]

Well normal people are getting ready for bed, but all us addicts are up, when we don't want to be...LOL

How close is that to Bend, Orgeon? - It's bueatiful up there, and La Pine too!

Shoot me an email whenever (since where on PT) there's a few of us on PT.

<  ktodd_savedbygrace***@****  >

God Bless,

Todd

[wheredidmyenergygo?]

Okay, I'm crying!!!!  Gods the only one who still loves me even tho I'm not perfect.  I love you!!!!  Do you think God will help me w/my eating disorder that is creeping in since i QUIT THE PPILLS?  Stupid question - I just don't want to starat an new forum- kinda like this one!!!!  Tears!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[cinnamonstix]

LOL  speaking of the doctor today....UGH....seth was incorrigeable. or however you spell it. lol
You KNOW its bad when other moms literally shield their kids from yours....

LOL

Jen

[K Todd]

Wooopss

Laughhhhhhing!

I just shot you a post...lol

Love ya,  lol

Todd

[taylor7583]

Hello everyone. I am new to this site. My fiance has a pill addiction and i don't know where to turn or what to do. Is there anyone who can help. He has been snorting tylox for awile and is now having nosebleeds and even bleeding in his sleep. Im scared, He has opened up to me about everything he has been doing and i know he wants help. I love this man more than anything. Please help.

[taylor7583]

Hello everyone. I am new to this site. My fiance has a pill addiction and i don't know where to turn or what to do. Is there anyone who can help. He has been snorting tylox for awile and is now having nosebleeds and even bleeding in his sleep. Im scared, He has opened up to me about everything he has been doing and i know he wants help. I love this man more than anything. Please help.

[marcatj]

Day 1 - c/t - after 8+ months of 10/325's.  For awhile I controlled it to 2-3 a day, but for the last few months I was 8-10 day.  This week tapered off some, but not much.  Today is the first day (again) and the chills, sweats - blah - ARE HORRIBLE!  I did this last week for 4 days then caved.  I really believe this time it is over, but somebody please tell me you've done this - c/t - and I will not be this miserable for too long.  Worse than the chills and aching back (i have herniated disks, and now they HURT) - but the worst part is the depression and crying.  And hiding from the world...
Did anyone go through so much crying?
Thanks you guys.... God bless everyone...