Holy **** Do I Feel Good

Got some supplements that apparently I was severely lacking internally.  Took them at lunch and haven't felt this good in a long time.  The nice part is I have to take them at breakfast, lunch and dinner.  I'm a raging bull again...

No more fatigue, feel like a million bucks and focused beyond anything I could have imagined yesterday.

As George's father said...

I'M BACK BABY!!!

Think I'll go fly fishing this weekend or tie up about 1000 flies.

Signing Off...

Thanks All.

[mac5454]

well whats the stuff.

[janshan]

what was it and how long hAVE YOU BEEN clean?  You give me hope

[GoingToMakeIt]

It's not nice to withhold secrets.

[CR_ST_NA]

im in the SAME BOAT...........since seeing my natural doctor and getting one the supplements the hydros robbed from me i feel GREAT TOO... amazing what a little knowledge will give you.... go glad for you all who have started taking a natural approach to healing.............as i smoke my cig...lol..................christina

[mac5454]

what is the stuff......

[Sunnyd210]

We are waiting lol!!!!

[Kat8843]

Please let all of us know ur secret PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[FlyFisher100]

I went to my local VitaminShoppe (chain store of supplements).

I purchased a bottle of COMPLETE (very important) Amino Acids (gel cap form to be taken 4 times/day, but I think the thing that did it was a men's formula mfg'd by "Futurebiotics" call "High Energy" multi vitamin/mineral supplement (pill form) For Men.

Stuff is like a golden bullet.  I have drank energy drinks for the last couple of days and they make you feel like **** during and after and didn't last long.  I took the tabs around 11 am and I'm still on cruise control as of 3:22 pm and haven't even taken a 2nd dose yet.  The nice thing is they say to take one High Energy w/breakfast, lunch and dinner.  Sustained energy and focus ALL DAY!  I love it.

As for how long, I stopped last Tuesday at 3 pm.  Gives me the same energy and more as the hydros.

  

[FlyFisher100]

One other note.  I also chew Skoal tobacco which I noticed when I stopped the drugs, when I chewed it, it was like all the energy in my body went away.  I've chewed a couple of times this afternoon and don't feel any of the effects of the nic.

That's what I'm guitting next.  Small steps.

Think I'll barbecue tonite and boil up some corn...For the first time in a week, I'm starving...

[susan303]

I wonder if women could take this as well with no side effects and get the same result?

[FlyFisher100]

Who cares, its all the same stuff that been sucked out of our bodies due to our foolishness.

Its not like you'll grow... something or other... did I say that outloud???

I'm even getting my sense of humor back.  Something that my wife has missed terribly.

http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/browse/sku_detail.jsp?id=FB-2033&st=cs&source=SC&srccode=cii_13736960&cpncode=07-59089922-2

I just google'd it and found the specs.  They don't show it separately but on the label they detail out the energy/focus mixture/portion separate from the vitamins/minerals.  Its got it all.  Heavy on the B12 too.

I'm telling you, this stuff is incredible.

[Decisions]

I am headed there in an hour.  I will report back when I have tried it.
I can tell you this.   I can't imagine a much harder "train wreck" than the one I am on.

[NautyOne]

gel cap vitamins are suppose to be the best if you can find them.  All this time they say we wasted our money on multi's (tablet) and everything else, because our bodies dont break them down.  Don't know if the gel thing is a new gimmick, but I can say that anything I can find in sublingual form I feel something........anything else.....NOthing !

Glad they are working for you !!!!

Nauty................

[FlyFisher100]

The aminos are in the gel caps.  The energy vitamins are a compressed tablet like most all others.

[GoingToMakeIt]

I am certainly glad you finally answered us. The posse was already forming to hunt you down. Lol Also glad that Decisions is in on this one, considering his last post. Lmao I hope this doesn't err shorten things even more.

[lovepat906]

I would kind of want to know what is in the 2000Mgs of "High Energy Blend"? That's a pretty good % of the vitamin and they don't really say what it is. Caffiene/Guarana? Ma Huang/Ephedra? Ginko, Ginsing, GotuKola? Don't want to rain on anybody's parade but a few of them do have side effects to be aware of. Of course- nothing could be as detrimental as the  old DOC...

[FlyFisher100]

Here are the ingredients:
Bee Pollen
Alfalfa Juice concentrate
Oat Straw extract
Saw Pametto Berry
Hawthorn Berry
Fo Ti Leaf
Adrenal concentrate
Spirulina
Garlic
Eleuthero Root extract
Octanosanol
Korean Ginseng extract

[Aargh]

I see that the RDAs are based on 3 tablets.  I'm curious - you said you take it 3x per day - does that mean you take 3 tablets 3x per day, or another amount?  Thanks.

[Decisions]

I am sad to report, the VitaminShoppe I went to had neither of the products he mentioned.  I would have to order them online.
Sorry everyone.

[FlyFisher100]

One pill 3x/day (with meals)

[desperate1111]

i looked on vitamin shoppe, couldn't find exactly what you have. i looked for future biotics mens formula.

[FlyFisher100]

Google It.

Amazon, Vitamin Shoppe, and a number of others sell it.  Around $11.00 for a bottle of 40 (I think).

Have em' Fedex it to you if you can't find it locally.

[FlyFisher100]

Hey Girlie:

Saw that they sell a formula for women as well.  Same ingredients but more iron.

[NautyOne]

cracks me up.......no difference in men or women when it comes to vitamins ....yes the iron and I bet the price is much higher for the Women's Blend.......marketing loves to ream women because we are more willing to dish out the bills.......not fair.

Nauty...........

[FlyFisher100]

These things are like $11/bottle for 40 tabs.

Just think about how much money you spent on the drugs over time.  I would have paid 100x more for the effect I'm getting...

[Decisions]

So, um, you are still getting the effects or results from the vitamin?
What was your DOC?  
I am glad it is working for you, and if it did become the wonder w/d pill, that would be great.  I have to order it, can't find it anywhere around where I am , unfortunately.

[FlyFisher100]

Hey Bud!

Yup, still doing great!

I took only 2 of the 3 yesterday because I started around noon.  Got home, did barbecue and made some corn, but it sucked because it too early.  Did a couple loads of laundry to help the wife out because she is travelling out of town today.  

Thought I would have a problem falling asleep because of the energy.  Laid down around 10 pm, can't remember falling asleep but it had to be within 15 minutes or so and woke up wide awake around 5:30 am.  Didn't wake up one time and dreamt alot, meaning REM sleep, good sleep.

Feeling great today too.  With all the energy you have to make sure you get enough calories because you're burning em' up pretty fast.

[Decisions]

Interesting...
I  wonder if anyone will have similar experiences.  As I said, I need to order it, and haven't done that yet. Need to make it a priority.

Glad you are doing so well.  I keep forgetting to check what your "habit" was.  And how much.  I did come down off of  hydros 2 times before without much discomfort.

This time around, I took many more than I should have (same as everyone), and now have paid the price for sure.

[CR_ST_NA]

yes yes yes.....................supplements, natural supplements are the way...............the addicts body has been so depleted by our drugs of choice.. good for you flyfisher.....................im sure its the amino acids that are making you feel great.....omegas too...............so so so happy for you............... im on supplements too and i feel great............found out im iodine deficeint and that was causing my thyroid to not work properly therefore causing.....low energy, depression, weight gain. lethargy.etc etc............got on the iodine (which you can get from Kelp in a supplement form( never felt better..................we have to take control of our bodies back!!!

again.........so so so happy for you

god bless christina

[Debbie817]

Thanks for the input.  I am on day 4 and not feeling the greatest.  Wondering what to take next to get thru the next week or so.   Again, many thanks

DB

[Coolio Hernendez]

Try Mona vie...it works wonders. I am gonna try it again during this detox..

[worried878]

Is this the ingredients in yours?  I went to the vitamin shoppe who has this...futurebiotics for men...they also had it for women...i really dont see why a female could not take this one tho
  Supplement Facts
Serving Size  3
Servings Per Container  20

  Amount Per
Serving % Daily
Value

  Vitamin A   (As Beta-Carotene)  25000 IU 500%  

  Vitamin C   (As Ascorbate Acid)  250 Mg 417%  

  Vitamin D   (As Ergocalciferol)  200 IU 50%  

  Vitamin E   (From Natural Mixed Tocopherols)  60 IU 200%  

  Thiamin   (As Thiamine Mononitrate)  25 Mg 1667%  

  Riboflavin  25 Mg 1471%  

  Niacin   (As Niacinamide)  50 Mg 250%  

  Vitamin B6   (As Pyridoxine Hydrochloride)  25 Mg 1250%  

  Folic Acid  400 Mcg 100%  

  Vitamin B12   (As Cyanocobalamin)  100 Mcg 1667%  

  Biotin  300 Mcg 100%  

  Pantothenic Acid   (As Calcium Pantothenate)  25 Mg 250%  

  Calcium   (As Calcium Phosphate, Citrate)  200 Mg N/A*  

  Iron   (As Ferrous Gluconate)  6 Mg 33%  

  Iodine   (From Kelp)  200 Mcg 133%  

  Magnesium   (As Magnesium Citrate, Amino Acid Chelate)  200 Mg 50%  

  Zinc   (As Zinc Monomethionine)  30 Mg 200%  

  Selenium   (As Selenomethionine)  20 Mcg 29%  

  Copper   (As Copper Gluconate)  2 Mg 100%  

  Manganese   (As Manganese Proteinate)  5 Mg 250%  

  Chromium   (As Chromium Polyniconate)  200 Mcg 167%  

  Molybdenum   (As Molybdenum Amino Acid Chelate)  25 Mcg 33%  

  Potassium   (As Potassium Citrate)  99 Mg 3%  

  CHOLINE   (AS PHOSPHATIDYL CHOLINE)  100 Mg N/A*  

  Inositol  75 Mg N/A*  

  Para Aminobenzoic Acid  75 Mg N/A*  

  Ribonucleic Acid   (Rna)  75 Mg N/A*  

  Hi Energy Blend  2000 Mg N/A*  

  Bee Pollen Powder  0  N/A*  

  ALFALFA JUICE POWDER CONCENTRATE  0  N/A*  

  FO TI LEAF POWDER  0  N/A*  

  Saw Palmetto Berry Power  0  N/A*  

  Hawthorn Berry Powder  0  N/A*  

  ADRENAL CONCENTRATE  0  N/A*  

  Spirulina  0  N/A*  

  Garlic   (ODORLESS) POWDER  0  N/A*  

  SIBERIAN GINSENG ROOT EXTRACT POWDER  0  N/A*  

  Korean Ginseng   (Standardized Root Extract Powder)  0  N/A*  




* Daily value not established


Directions:  
As a dietary supplement for adults, take 3 tablets daily with meals or as recommended by a healthcare  

[FlyFisher100]

The max I took was 140 mg/day 10mg x 14 Norco.

Averaged about 60-80 for around  months and before that around 30-40 mg/day.  All total around 2.5 years, on and off a couple of times.

I tapered over a 20 day period before getting off the train.

[Aargh]

I don't have a Vitamin Shoppe near me, so I printed out the ingredients of Fly Fisher's recommendation and went to GNC.  I asked the guy if they had something similar and in no time flat, he took this box off the shelf.  It's called High Energy Vitapak.  We compared the ingredients to the Futurebiotics and they're almost exactly the same.

They come in packets of 4-5 vitamins and you take one pack per day.  Took my first pack today at lunch and it seemed to make a difference.

So, if you don't have a Vitamin Shoppe near you, go to GNC and get the High Energy Vitapak.

[Decisions]

I did the same thing. Never got around to ordering it online.
Have family in from out of town, an ex-wife lurking in the trees, and a son who wants to enjoy his graduation day.
I am trying to stay at peace.

I have found nothing that helped me through w/d's except time.  But I believe this is because I have a very bad  case of chronic IBS.  My gut is very sensitive, so for me,  I just have to eat right, and try to get my vitamins etc.. that  way..

But don't let me stop anyone from trying. When we are sick, coming down, we are  looking for anything to  get back to normal.

[Iflyfish]

Thank you very much for this post. I have tried to find the product you mentioned online. The link does not work on my puter. I really think you are onto something since it's the depletion of the neurotransmitters that are at the root of the problem.

Would someone please provide me with another link or the full name of the product.

Thanks,

Iflyfish

[Iflyfish]

What is the name of the product you mentioned. It contains more ingredients than the one I found online. Thanks

Iflyfish