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How long does withdrawl(withdrawal) last??? Help me please

How long does withdrawl(withdrawal) last??? Help me please

I have been on Norco 10/325mg after breaking my neck and having 4 steel plates put in due to my ex-husband hitting me in the face with a hammer. I now have an addiction so severe I went through 780 tablets in 30 days. And 3 Dr's later.  I need to stop now. I have 10 left I am going to stop cold turkey, which is gonna suck I know. I did it years ago(quit once before) when I was on 10 a day and it sucked then. Does anyone know w hat to expect with it this high???? I am scared to death. I know I am in for some pain and some "restless body syndrome" if anyone has any idea how long or what to expect please please help. I don't know how I got myself in this mess. ANd as I sit here today I swear if I get off them without dying I will never go back on them, no matter what I break. Thank you all, Good night
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I was only at about half that dose...i felt flu like for 4-5 days...yours will be more intense and may last 1-2 weeks...other factors come into play like age nutritional status and overall health...there is no way to know for sure...have u gtten the thomas recipe from the health pages?  something for sleep and anxiety....hang in there and keep posting
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WOW that's alot of pills/day. Is there anyway that you can taper? I went ct but only had a 10-12 pill a day habit. I My experience was just like what worried's was. 4-5 day flu but I imagine you will experience more severe wds. Can you talk to your doctor..If not can you see another one. I would definatly have some type of benzo..Valium, Xanax, C;\lonoprin for anxiety. OTC sleep aids and Immodium. Keep posting and we will try to help you as much as possible. I'm so sorry that this happened to you. I hope your husband is out of your life and in jail. Best of luck to you.
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I was on about 6 a day and I just finished my taper.  I stuck to it to a T. And I had hardly no withdrawal pains.  I am on Day 2 of NO PILLS.  

Can't you talk to your doctor about tapering?  I know alot of people here did CT or Tapered.  And a few even felt a little w/d pains from the taper...but I can't imagine getting off of that many of these pills CT.

If you don't have anyone to hold your pills for you, why not ask the Doctor Office or Pharmacist if you could just get the amount of pills daily from them.  Or even go back 3x a day.  I don't know if this is an option or not, but if I wasn't going to be able to hold my own, I was going to do this. Or even a neighbor you can trust.

Good luck.  I will say a prayer for you to make the right decision.
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Thank you guys so much so your support. I am just so scared, but I know I have GOT to do this. I am in a hard spot right now of do I open my mouth and risk legal charges to get medical help, and poss. lose my job in the process or just work through it myself? I have to say. My boyfriend I am with now is so good to me and 100% support of me. He hates my addiction but will help in any way.  I do need him, so I am glad he is here. I don't think I could do this alone. I think the detox is almost as bad as death b4 I cant imagine how bad its gonna be now, I just dont know if I need to do this at home or at the hosp. I am so sorry if I am rambling.  Thanks for listening to me going on. And I am happy for you guys that have done it.
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Do u think u can taper with your boyfriends help??  also i didn't see where you mentioned how long u have been taking them?
r2r
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I seldom suggest suboxone but you have relapsed before and u r on a high dose...if wd was bad for u at a lower dose, then you may need some medical guidence if u can not taper down...if u could he could dole them out to u each day...if u can not get more pills to taper you will not die but it would be very uncomfortable...let us know what u decide
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I have been on and off a long time. The last time I did the WD and cold turkey thing was 2005 then like I said I broke my neck. This has been really since like the fall I guess.
Yes, my boy friend would dole them out for me, but I don't know if I can find another doc to write another script, I have about tapped out all of them in the area. Let me ask you all, For the ppl with genuine pain, do you take pain meds now, when you have pai9n, or do you just stay in pain now and will you always be in pain? I hope I didn't offend anyone with  how I asked that question
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I'm sorry that last comment was a little choppy. I have been on them since this past fall again. I broke my neck a year ago not in '05 like it apearred when I re-read my comment, sorry.  How long were all you guys on ?
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On that high of a dose I would definately look to suboxone I think it could help you in getting off of the pills. and NA and AA have helped me tremedously it can't hurt to get some aftercare.
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What is suboxone?
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I can not take pain meds anymore...i have screwed that option up i guess...i dont see alot of difference in my pain level since i quit tho....i think i was overmaxing the dose needed to be effective,,with the tolerence i built to hydros they were just no longer effective so not an option....i do ice, heat, yoga, chiropractic, steroid injections, muscle relaxers on occasion and anti-inflammatories as needed...I also have to take steroid packs at times to calm it down...all in all i have had toaccept this and do the best i can...stress aggravates mine big time and getting pills was a major stressor for me

can u go to a doc...ur last doc and have him help you with a taper....u could pick a sub doc just in case he wont give u narcs to taper and then talk to him about the sub...I am not pushing suboxone but tapering with one or the other may help...or u can bite the bullet and ct...it is do-able but get prepared so u will be successful...if u cant get a hold of anymore pills then it will be hard to fail i guess.....make a plan and keep posting
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Go to the health pages under DISCUSSION....a site called ****.com has a place to put in ur zip code and fine sub docs in ur area...he may would help u taper with the vikes instead
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I was on for 3 yrs...At the end it was 15 10mg lortabs a day...i went c/t, of course u know it wasn't easy, but doable...I had clonodine that helped alot...
I have been clean for 8 months...I have back pain from disc problems, I take OTC things that really help...For me i really think that the pain meds made me think my pain was worst then it was....
If u could find another script, and give to boyfriend and taper down some, the w/d's will be alot less..
do u have time off of work you can take???
We are all here to try and help
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I just re-read your post again...I agree that i would try the suboxone route.....
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I was on vicodin 10/325 also taking about 10-12 a day for migraines and just to cover a lot of pain and also bc im an addict. Today I am on day 8 and I feel GOOD, not excellent but I feel good. My intestines dont feel too good, but I do have to say detox was so worth it im starting to see my old self and ive been an addict for awhile, this is my 2nd time detoxing, last time I was only on 5/500 like 3 a day and that was HELL, this time around, god must have been with me.

I PROMISE you you can do it, im the weakest person when it comes to this **** but im also a fighter.

Suboxone sucks, I dont care what anyone says about it, It almost killed me and so did my "addiction" doctor. AND you have to ween yourself off that too. Its an EASY way to get clean,why would u wanna detox off vikes then have to go through detox with suboxone?? I will understand that, For some it works, but I dont believe it in AT ALL.

I took...

Promethazine 25mg as needed (for nausea and vomitting)
Clonidine 0.1mg (to lessen withdrawal symptoms like sweating, heart racing, ect)
Valium 10mg (to calm me down and just be mellow)

AND I AM FINE NOW, still achey (achy) and going to the bathroom but the worst is over. I was scared too, but just think 10 days of your life, to get clean, is 10 years ADDED onto your life

im only 22 years old and detoxing was traumatic and hard for me, but I wanted it bad enough bc I lost everything, my life, my job in the Emergency room, my friends, I got thrown out of my house, who wants to live like that?? I sure dont. Life is too short. Get off em girl. PLEASE. you can do this, TRUST if I can than ANYONE can.

HOT HOT HOT baths works also, the heat releases the bad toxins in your body and u just feel so much better. DO this for yourself. I promise it will be worth it. Dont be scared be thankful that you can get off them, Will power. God doesnt put you through anything he doesnt think you cant get through. ALWAYS HAVE FAITH. If you need me, GET AT ME! GOOD LUCK.
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Wow, that's 26 pills a day.  I would think you would be better off tapering with what you have left just to ease the wd a little.  But, you need to at least cut back because at that dose it has got to be hard on your liver and the rest of your organs too.  Believe me i know that is easier said than done.

you should talk to your dr and and tell him you want to stop taking them and can he help.  Mine gave me clonidine but would not give me any valium so i didn't sleep.  I have bad back pain and went to a nurosurgeon and just got my test results back last week.  I have been taking hydro's 7.500 3 a day for the last month and have enough to last until the end of this month.  Before that my md had me on morphine and coming off that and ultram was really tough.  I stopped both of them before i went to the nurosurgeon and he gave me the hydro so now i think i can do it because i have the other stuff out of my system.  I think the ultram was the worst because of the antidepresent that it has in it.

The letter i received from the surgeon said there is nothing they can do about my back with surgery and he suggested i just continue the medication.  Even though i think he will continue to give them to me i want to stop.  I am going to taper myself off them even though i have been taking them as prescribed it's still going to be hard.  But, like a lot of the folks on the site, they have done it and i am sure you and i can too. It is good to read their stories to give yourself hope that you can do it to even though it is not easy, it can be done.  My main problem is my heart races so fast during the wd that it scares me because i have had heart surgery 3 times already so my heart is a concern.  See if you can get the clonidine to help you relax during the wd.  Good luck to you and you are in our prayer.
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HI I read all your comments and thank you, it has been helpful to read them. I took my last 2 pills about 930am, I then went to work and tried to keep busy. I did call some Drs about the suboxone, I could not get into anyone until late Thurs, so I made an appt. with a local detox/rehab for 1pm Tues. If I get too bad they said to go to the ER. I am not real bad yet but I am sure in a few more hrs it will get worse, So I may be back alot tonight.
Thank you all again
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Someone will undoubtably be here. I am addicted to tramadol and now finishing day 5 and finally ate solid food today. But it is doable for you and you have gotten good advice. Prayin for you.
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Does anyone have any ideas about home aides in helping the detox?
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hot baths....imodium (immodium) liquid from walmart...will actually help the wds and the runs....EmergenC from walmart...and a sleep aid....a walk around the block if u can....get your house ultra cold and bundle up 2nite...throw off blankets as needed...theanine for anxiety....tyrosine for energy....5htp for sleep and methionone for moods.....just a start to get u thru tonight..good luck
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U have a plan so relax...if need be go to the er...i doubt u will have to but it is an option.......u can talk to a doc about help with a taper or clonidine or the sub route...be thinking about it...or the rehab...u have lost of choices...try and relax....be safe and try to be positive
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Once again, thank you alll alot for the suggestions
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You can google suboxone and get their specific website and the have some videos there.  There are also suboxone specific forums that are good..... It saved my life.
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Sorry I have not posted. I could not sit long enough. I am day 2 on suboxone. I have to tell to I went through insurance nightmares in order to get help.  I think I will make it. Thanks for all your help and I will be back soon.
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We will be here when needed. Good luck and God bless.
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I have been on the suboxone for a few weeks. I was told last week I could go back on the Norco due to the severe pain I was in. Somedays the pain is so bad I just cry and cry, because no matter what I do it won't get better. I know I have more surgeries ahead of me to finish fixing the problem. Anyway the Suboxone Dr said it was ok. I filled the script and I did take a few. I was so overwhelmed with guilt I went right back on the suboxone and gave the bottle to my boyfriend to keep me away from it. I am so confused, I know I will abuse them unless I am watched like a freakin 2 yr old, but somedays it is so painful. That is problem #1. Problem 2 is keepin me up just as much if not more than #1. I went to the suboxone Dr the first 3 visits and visit 1 and 2 felt VERY wrong with the way he examined me. But I know some Drs are a bit more "touchy" than others and was not too sure what to think of the way he checked my lungs and "chest". I had NEVER ever had a Dr exam me like that. When I went back the 3rd time things became very clear on his exam of me. I was firm after I realized what the heck he was doing. My problem is that I have no other options where I live, there is no other Drs around that can write for Suboxone. I know this is so bizarre and I am even more confused and upset over it all. To top things off after I top my boyfriend what had happened we looked him up online and he was charged in the 80's and again in the 90's with sexual abuse. Oh, I really don't know what to do. To look at the surface it looks like an easy answer, but think about it before you respond and put yourself in my shoes. But god that Dr gives me the heebee geebees. Thanks guys for reading this. And you are all so great
Christy
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