How much should I taper?

I have been on Oxycontin since March. I was taking as much as 160mg twice a day. I did not crush them etc. I am now down to 20mg in the morning 10mg in the afternoon and 10mg at night. I have been hospitalized because the doctor tapered me down too fast. I have diabetes so when I start withdrawing I get very sick. My question is my doctor wants to taper me down by 10mg every week. The last week he wants me to take 10mg every other day. He says that I will not have any withdrawal if I taper. Do you feel that this is true, and how do you feel about this taper?
I have been wearing a Catapress#2 patch since the taper began.

Thank you, Oxyclean

[hellbent]

Man, you are almost home free by the sound of it. 320Mgs a day down to 40? That is a serious tapering success story.

Obviously, you want to stick it out all the way. 10mgs a week will probably be do-able, but you might want to switch to vicodin for the last few weeks. It may actually be better to go to an "instant release" med like vikes or percs and let your system get used to flushing it faster. Hydrocodone is, theoretically, a milder opiod than Oxycodone, so it might be good to move to it. Darvon is milder still, and you might want to consider switching to that for the last week.

As far as withdrawal, I would guess that you will feel a little at least, some sleep disruption, maybe a little anxiety, some depression perhaps. Just deal with it. It will pass. You are in damn good shape. Most people can't get out as gracefully as you are.

[theGolden1]

I really don't like taking ultram anymore. I'm getting "twitches" in my face .... and I keep hearing my heart beating. Last night my head kinda hurt. I raised the dose like the doctor told me to, but I just don't want to use this chemical anymore. I have to order vicodin over the internet. If I take one 3x's a day for 2 weeks ... ultram should be out of my body by then. I'll do the thomas reciepe right after that. I have found so much about ultram on the internet. They say that valium binds to the same receptors in the brain, and that is why you can detox with valium so easily .... I'm just afraid to put myself through "shock" .... I'm not that young anymore. Is it hard to order hydrocodone over the net? I don't want to get arrested. They should arrest the drug company that lied to the public. Don't get me wrong ..... it's a good product BUT, we deserve to know the truth about what we are taking. I would have made sure I didn't become dependent on this by stopping along time ago ..... if anyone can advise me... my email is; ***@**** thanks guys .... and merry xmas

[Oxyclean]

Thanks for the advice. I really haven't got out gracefully though. I just haven't told the whole story about my tapering. It could fill this page! I ended up in the hospital by abulance twice over Thanksgiving by tapering too fast. I do not remember a whole week being there! What I do remember is seeing bugs and people that were not there. The nurses tell me I was talking to walls and was fighting with my family and friends. They say it was part of withdrawal. I do not know. I have been sick to my stomach with all the other signs. I just do not want to go through that again. The worst part is the leg cramps! If I can avoid going through all that stuff again it will be great. I do not know if I can get the doctor to write to me a script for vikes or percs. Any other advice you can give to me I will apriecate it! Thank you for your time!

[Rex1]

Hey where ya been?

Rex

[hellbent]

Regardless of how graceful it was, you are down to 40mgs and that is a miracle. Takes a lot of balls to stick with it. Blowing it now would not be a good idea.

I was taking 800mgs OC a day, and stopped cold after 21 days of methadone detox. I ended up in the ER after not sleeping for 23 days straight. Sometimes the pain we go through in withdrawal is a blessing later on. We know what other people are going through, and we know we don't ever want to go back there ourselves. There is a price to pay for this stuff, and the people who can suck it up and hang through the pain are the lucky ones who have a chance to make it out. Staying clean is another beast entirely, but that's another post...

Sounds like you have gone through hell dude. Maybe get your doc to take you down the rest of the way without too much trauma: 10 mgs a week should be fine, but perhaps you should stabilize at 40mgs before you start dropping. What's the 40 like right now?

Are you pschologically addicted? Or are you just physically adcited?

[Oxyclean]

I am doing OK at 49. I am feeling the lower dosage already after one day! My body is physicaly addicted to it. Mentaly I am ready to get off it! I just want to feel normal again or as close as normal can be. Thanks for listening

[Oxyclean]

Sorry... I meant to type 40mg not 49!

[Bodymechanic]

Getting drugs off the internet is too easy. I am concerned that you will be going from the frying pan into the fire. Were you able to control your use of ultram?  If you were, email me, I will try to help you because I agree that ulram is an unpredictable drug. If you were out of control with the ultram it is best you stay away.  With or without my help it won't be long before you find a place to get anything you want over the net.

***@****

[Chezz2]

For those of you who have not had the experience of oxycontin :

Oxycontin is straight oxycodone. It is nothing like I have ever experienced with any other type of opiate.
The escalation of tolerance for me was unreal. It is also extremely potent and long acting.
I never realized total pain relief until I was put on that. It was very nice to even realize that until I took an extra one, once. That is all it took for it to go from taking all my physical pain away, to causing mental pain that could not be cured anymore. Until I stopped taking it........
This is what happened to me, to ME. It is different for everyone and everyone's feelings on it will be and should be different. Except of course those who have not taken it.
If you sit back and say, well its just oxycodone, it should be the same as Hydrocodone, or percocet withdrawal. IT IS NOT in the least bit the same.
Of course I thought the same thing BEFORE I took it. I figured it would be no problem and just the same. Well, let me tell you it isn't.
It is a unique drug, with a unique set of issues surrounding it when detoxing off it. Since it is long acting, it also takes longer to recoup after stopping it.
So when someone says they are on 40mg a day, sure it is like 8 percocets. YET the withdrawals are nothing like going CT off 8 percs a day. Cause I have been through both. I ALSO figured they would be the same. I learned very quickly the difference. Especially if you are abusing it via snorting, crushing, eating ect. I am sure that is even worse.
This is just to let those people know out there that haven't taken it.........it is not the same and should be respected for that.
I just love to learn the hardway I guess. I read so much before the switch, yet STILL thought it would be just fine and I wouldn't have any problems. Well of course I was wrong...
I guess I will never listen, until I learn for myself. The hardway of course......
Chezz

[hellbent]

If you are crushing an OC 40 up, it is exactly like eating 8 percs, without the tylenol.If that is your daily dose, it should be identical to eating 8 percs. You have beaten the time-release of the pill and get it all at once, the same way you do when swallowing percs. Your withdrawal should be exactly the same as well.

Swallowing the dose...well I am not sure about that as I never did, except when I tapered. It is time-released when swallowed, and it's like an onion - layers peel off and distribute the stuff over 8-12 hours. Still, it's just oxycodone, and taking it in time relase fashion is like eating a few percs every few hours. I can't see any reason why withdrawals would be any different if one was taking equivalent amounts of either.

[Chezz2]

Well it was for me, and that is all past. I haven't been on them for a while and I was only on them for a month and a half.
I didn't see ANY reason they would be different either. Yet they were. Could be for a variety of reasons, to include that every withdrawal period is different.
I was just passing along my version of what I went through with the meds and the differences I experieced. Especially since I have been well versed in taking percocet, yet that was the first time for oxycontin.
Chezz

My experience was that it was different with the withdrawals. That is the bottom line. Whether it "should" have been the same or not, it wasn't...

[hellbent]

Not trying to be argumentative, just feel compelled to add my 2 cents to everything today I guess.

I know that my w/d from opiates in general has gotten worse, the longer I have been on / off them. My body has changed somehow,and every Detox is worse than the last. I get addicted much faster and easier as well.

Hell for all I know, Lily, or whoever makes OC's, puts extra **** in them that will **** you up even worse.

[Rex1]

Know your havin a tough time lately. Hope you have rounded the corner though...

Let us all know how you are doing...

Rex

[Jennibean]

I am in full agreement with you. I don't care if it is straight oxycodone it is different. I have withdrawn cold turkey from hydrocodone and percocet more times than I care to remember. The oxycontin withdrawal for me was a hell I never want to experience again. enough hell in fact that my Dr's have almost been begging me to go back on it and I refuse! Wish I could refuse the oxycodone, well I am working on that! My Dr even tried to tell me that the short acting stuff is usually more addicting etc. I have been through all of it and nothing I have ever been through even compares to the oxycontin. Although as someone else said if you are crushing it etc. it should be just like taking percocet. I took it the right way and because it is so long acting the withdrawals seemed to be as well. What happened was I was taking oxycontin and percocet at one point and the percocet withdrawal was severe for the first 4 days then because the oxycontin is so long acting the withdrawal from that seemed to start just as the percocet withdrawal would normally be easing up a bit. Double whammy sort of. All I know is I wanted to die. I went off oxycontin by itself as well and that was still a Hell I never want to live through again. I told all of my Dr's that oxycontin is a drug that should be given to people who never need to get off of it. That is really what it was intended for chronic end stage pain. It should be kept for that as it is ruinning too many lives! Anyway just wanted to say I agree 100% with you.
Jen

[theGolden1]

I never abused ultram or vicodin after surgery. Vicodin began abusing me, so I stopped. (smile) I had a withdrawal from it ... but it wasn't major. I took plain tylenol and it passed in 3 days. I am not foolish enough to think it can't happen to me. WhenI was young (about 30 years ago) I just want to be clean and natural more than anything. I am starting to wonder if I have an unrealistic idea of how it would be to be totally drug free. Since you say it takes anywhere from 1 1/2 to 3 years for the brain to switch back .... my "normal" may not be what I expect.
I will be sending an email tommorrow, And thank you for your concern. Why should I have to get drugs over the internet? My doctor should have some faith in me and let me try. I am not going through a "taper" torture with ultram. NO WAY! All this **** is really scaring me ... opiates have been around since forever .... I should have used them occassionally for acute pain, and an anti-inflamatory for on going pain. I got sucked into the "drugs for profit" pitfall. If all the chronic pain people get well ..... the drug companies go down. Anyway, enough complaining. I got myself into it ... there must be a way out.
Because of my fibromyalgia condition. I am 10 times more sensitive to pain  .... I guess I need God's help ... actually, I know I do.... Goldie

Rex ..... I've been here everyday .... just reading and trying to figure things out. I appreciate everyone here. Alot of very brave people. I'm thinking about the people I have seen at my rhematologist office. They are all limping, using canes and all busted up. I am bouncing around and in pretty good shape so far .... maybe I need a different type of doctor. Or maybe I should count my blessings ..... anyway, all my best to you. Stay kool .... G

[Chezz2]

Jen,
Sorry to hear you had such a bad time getting off the oxycontin. Next time try and taper off of it, then onto the percocet for at least a week. Then taper from there. I am sure that will be a lot easier on you and your system.
Chezz

PS Your doc was correct in that any short acting med is easier to get addicted to. It provides "immediate" gratification for a person that is seeking more than pain relief. With the longer acting time released meds, used as directed, the "high" associated is a lot less pronounced.

[Oxyclean]

You are answering questions on an addiction forum correct?!

[sonogirl]

you're story is amazing!!!  i am taking 240mgs of oxy a day.  even when i try to decrease by 20 mgs i have a tuff time.  keep up the good work!
let me know how you are doing!!  it is encouraging for me!
by the way i am 40 and have been on these pills for over 2 years for chronic arthritis/back pain.  was a miricle drug--now it is from hell!!

[Oxyclean]

I thought Oxy was great at first too. Now, I hate it. I am cutting back 10mg each week. I take it three times a day. I can't wait to be off this for good. I do feel it every time I cut back, but that is the price we have to pay for taking it in the first place. The longer you put off tapering it, the worse it will be for you! I know how bad withdrawing is. I did it before 5 years ago off of MSIR for nerve pain with my diabetes. You will feel so much better in the long run! Please let me know how you are doing. It is good to know that there are other people going through what I am!

[Rayven]

Could any of you e-mail me ***@****,please. trying to  taper !!!!!! scared

[Bodymechanic]

I will try to help you and so will others. Just post here on the open forum.  There is nothing to be afraid or ashamed about

[saveyourself]

Greetings all,
Just read your post vicojen, your story is identical to mine. I am in day 12 cold turkey with the thomas recipe.  I also have had to withdraw from percs or lora tabs, codiene way to many times in the last 12 years.  Usually with in a week I was clean and functioning until the next relapse.

I have been on 300 to 400mgs of oxy for the last 14 months with 12 perc 10s daily.  The first week of withdrawl (withdrawal) was not to bad.  However, the past two days I am coming out of my skin. Total anxiety, pain in my bones and legs that hot soaks did nothing.  I was out of clonidine and the valium.  I mean this is the worst day I have had yet.  So, I go to see a Doctor, one of four who has known me and my family for 10 years.  The last time I saw him two months ago he told me no more percs or oxy for you.  So, I apoligized for using our friendship for drugs and I have not used for 12 days.  I show him the thomas recipe and asked him for more clonidine and 5mgs valium.  He acted as if I was
a stranger.  He then says he wants me to talk to his addictionoligist, now mind you I am in no mood for this, but I go talk to her after an half hour wait.

After I told her how much I was using. I was hurting, anxiety and how well the thomas recipe had been working, I showed it to her.  Please prescribe friggin 5mgs valium and clonidine and let me go home.  Her reponse was I should go on methadone, not once did she say this, but 5 times. I amswered no everytime, been there, done that in 1988, it took 5 months for all withdrawls to go away. Oxycontin is the same type of withdrawl (withdrawal) at least for me.  So she gives me 15 vals, 15 clonidine and 1 mgs klonipin (klonopin).  I go to the pharmacy and they say it is to early to fill the scripts. I was able to get a few vals and my wife is just going to get the scripts in her name tomorrow.  She's got 50 days opiate free, her doc is coopertive. so I can see how people snap, it would have been easier just to say to the doc, alright one more script of oxy and percs, he would of done it.

With all respect, doctors need to take opiates for one month everyday before they go into residency.  Maybe then, they will relate.  Now, these friggin pharmacists think their DEA agents and treat people with legitamate ailments as if their faking scripts,even tho there are those that do.  The whole system is screwed up. I am going to Na meetings and got a great church we go to. I will be drug free by Jan 1 ,2003That is how I will maintain my recovery.  vicojen, just one more time, you are so right oxy is so hard on the body and the withdwals equal methadone and heroin.  Like you I will never accept oxy again.  Thanks for your post and to all who share their experiance ,strength and hope.

Peace and Strength

[oxic]

Agreed about those "WANNABE BUT COULDN'TBE DOCTOR" pharmacists...they used to severely **** me off!!
Hey buddy, sorry to hear the last couple days have been so rough. You sound real strong though.....keep hangin in...i feel for ya.
Since you kicked the Methadone Gorilla so successfully, your gonna kick the **** out of this Oxy-Monkey!!
Hope things start to improve real soon.
Percs

[Rex1]

Saveyourself,

Hang in there bu, Jan 1st will be here before you know it.

Have you thought about going for a deep tissue massage. MAny here have said good things about it.

Oxic,

Thanks always to you percs for your support and encouragement.

Rex

[Rex1]

Hang in there bud!

Good luck with the doc!

Rex

[sonogirl]

hi --i am currently taking 220mgs of oxy.  last week i was on 240-280 a day.  i've heard that cutting down no more than 20% a week was a sane way of tapering. but let me tell you --i wake up every morning with the body crawls,  it sucks!!! it is so hard to get off of this stuff!!!  but i have to do it!  if i don't get through it now, what will it be like years from now?
my doc says don't worry about being on it, think of it like taking insulin.
my only worry, according to him, is if something happens to him.  he is a very pain-free, oxy prescribing doc.  i have chronic pain, arthritis and back stuff.  just the thought of somethng happening to him and having to go cold turkey scares me enough to want to  try to taper off of them now.
---anyhow i am going to write of my struggles with this everyday---maybe it will help someone or maybe someone can help me--
so today it is only 7am and i have taken my first 40mg oxy.  i am going to
try to do 210mgs today.  ---i 'll let you know how i do.--;)

[Oxyclean]

Your doctor told you taking Oxy is like taking insulin? That is some crazy ****! I take both insulin and I am down to 40mg of Oxy a day for this week. How can he say you need Oxycontin? It is nice to have pain relief don't get me wrong, but no one ever died from not having it like I would if I stopped taking my insulin! Good luck with your taper. You can do it. Taper while you can. If the doctor quits his practice etc you will be left high and dry!

[Rayven]

Thanks for the replies,I've put a call in my DR. As of 12:30 no call yet. Was relly glad to read that the tapering is working for some !! What courage !!

[teeitup]

Great to see new and old members posting.

Thanks to everyone, I've gone 6 days with only 1 ES each day. Know way I'd be at this point without everyones comments!

Thank you!
Teeitup!

[hellbent]

Are you in Sonoma, CA?

I was on 800mgs oxy daily, and made it off, so you can do it. I was taking it for no good reason however. You have legit pain and that adds a layer of complexity that I am not familiar with.

Do you take the doses as directed (that is, swallowed)?

[hellbent]

Yes, I was on 0C's for 3-4 years, spent the last year eating between 8-11 80's a day, as that's what I needed to get any kind of high from them at that point. I was able to secure a steady supply of OC 80's (and, for awhile, I was getting 160's too, but they stopped making them), and had enough money that I never had to withdraw - this was exactly what I thought I wanted when I started, the time and money to stay perpetually high on opiods - be careful what you ask for!

I was never very successful tapering. I was running out of cash and was going to be homeless. I finally stared swallowing my doses and got to about 6 80's a day then did a 21 day methadone detox. Then, I hunkered up at home and freaked out for a month. I was also addicted to Klonopin, which I went cold turkey from. That was perhaps worse than the OC. Didn't sleep for 23 days.

I am defintely not a tough guy when it comes to detox. I hate the pain as much as anyone. I feel really blessed I was able to get through it, and I want to let people know that it can be done. The horror can be tolerated if you just accept that it will get better. And it will. I am so much healthier, mentally and physically, than I have been, perhaps ever before, only 7-1/2 short months after stopping. The pain of detox was pretty damn bad, but I was almost dead from taking so much of that stuff. The pain seems like a worthy tradeoff for having a chance to live.

I'm not the first person to beat OC's. It's do-able. If you don't have the added burden of psycological addiction, your chances of staying off them skyrocket.

[sonogirl]

i forgot to mention that i swallow my pills.:)

[sonogirl]

Hi Hellbent,  No I am not from sonoma.  I am a sonographer.  Which is a diagnostic medical ultrasound technologist.   So that is how i got my name.  Let's get to the important stuff.  You tapered off of 800mgs of oxy?
Are you for real?  That is amazing!!!  If so, how long did it take you and how much did you taper at a time.  You are the first person that I have heard that has been able to beat the Demon.  I hope your story its true.
You don't know what it means to know that someone has been able to beat this.  Can't wait to hear from you!!! Bye, Sono

P.S. How did you get a name like Hellbent?

[saveyourself]

Chezz,

I don't know how I missed your post about oxycotin in the last couple of days, you are so right on the money. I am on day 14 CT with the recipe and I am no where near over the withdrawls of the oxy. Each night I think the next day will be better and pow, it's worse.  I figure another two weeks I will be having good days consistently. I have read here how it is like coming of of percs, just more quanity your taking. I do not agree or maybe it is a pharmacist qouting oxys manufactuer. Speaking from my own experiance these last two weeks, CT 300 to 400mgs chewed and 10 to 12 percs 325/10s daily the withdrawls are so different,constant and painful.  The anxiety, mental and withdrawl (withdrawal) is so intense from any other pain pill I have done.  vicojen is right, oxys are for people who will not ever have to stop taking them until they die. For me it is compared to cold turkey from 120 mgs of methadone having used the meth a year.  I know that for a fact because I did it in 1988.  If I need to ever have pain meds I will refuse oxys, sometime we are going to read about not an O.D. from them, but someone dieing that stop taking them.

I personally think their is a major kickback, bonus or some other form of reward for these doctors to be using oxy when lora tab, percs ect. would be just as an effective pain management tool. Except for the terminal ill.

By the way, you put your post in a profesional, eloquent way that I am going to print that sucker now.
Strength and Honor
Greg

[oldtimer]

Oxycontin is a hell, pure hell, I disagree with the person that thinks perk withdrawal is the same, it is not, remember my words here, anyone who is forunate enough NOT to have done them please I ask please do not ever try them..once you get sucked into this black hole of oxy addiction there is almost no way out, and then I believe getting out is only possible for the young ones who are strong enough to make it...there is no way out for me, trust me I have tried, and tried, I can not make it, I only pray, that when it ends, it really ends, because I can not make it clean...

[hellbent]

The active ingredient in Oxycontin and Percoset is exactly_the_same. Oxycodone. The only difference is the escalation of the dosage amounts. That's it.

[npog99]

I have to agree with those of you who believe that oxycontin has different effects and withdrawal than percocets. For one thing, the tylenol content in the percocets DO give you a rush or

[And]

I am exactly in the same situation (up to about 2 1/2 weeks ago) as you are re. dosage and doctor who almost insists on escalating my dose everytime that I see him.  My dr. (here in New York City) told me the same thing regarding insulin.  I hated having to worry all the time about what I would do if anything happened to him.

I stopped the Oxy's 18 days ago and converted to Roxicodone -- the instant release form that they give you for breakthrough pain -- and decided to taper from these as you can control the release in your system much more easily.

I am/was doing well, but I now have to have a hip replacement operation on 1/2/03 so they'll jack up my dose in the hospital I suppose.  I hope that I can just reduce it again to the 60-75 mgs that I've reduced it to.

I really had to beg the dr. to work with me on lowering my dose.  He thinks that I simply refuse to follow his directions.  I've talked to him about the horrors of withdrawals many, many times -- he just tells me that if and when I'm pain free *we'll* just taper off.  "You won't even notice it" he tells me, or "you'll just feel like you have the flu for a few days."  **Yeah, right**  I don't know what kind of flu the dr. has ever had ...  Oxy withrawals feels a lot more, I would guess, like bubonic plague.

My tapering experience is that I managed to get my body used to 75 mgs by just taking a 15 mg pill when w/d starts.  Only taking 60 is still quite horrible.  Do you guys out there think that after my operation I can just go right back to the taper?

And.

[madeline]

Hi everyone,
Well I want to thank Saveyourself for leading me to
this board.  I have read alot here and it seems like
alot of nice people.  thanks Greg.

Well I have a question for Chezz.  Since I read
about you taking the percocets.  I at this time want
to taper off my percocets, cause I really want to try
to do this without going in detox.  I have been on them
since March for a knee surgery, and of course with
my addicitive personality, went more and more for the
feeling they give.  I have gone up to about 15 a day.
I am trying to taper.  Does it work?  And if I continue
to go down, and go down on amount will the withdrawals
not be as bad.  I have cut back a little already.
But woke up this morning as usual with the horrific
headache and stomach cramps.  Last time I took them
was last night at six.  I really want to taper cause
I am in the process of getting a job I have waited
and waited for.  I took the drug test the other day
and am waiting for them to question me on the results.
Of course it is legal because I have a prescip. for them.
Well I took my morning dose, and am going to try to
take them ONLY as needed.  I dont need them for my knee
just to feel normal.

Hey, it is wonderful to be here and I am gonna go back
now and read some more of the posts.  So glad to be
here.  I already take prozac for depression, so maybe
I will not get the depression everyone talks about.
Well now that you guys are helping me, hope I can be
of somehelp to you.  I have been praying for all that
I meet on the boards thru the internet.  

God Bless you all
Love Madeline

[sumeria]

I was up to 120mg a day of oxycontin. I cut it to 20mgs a day abruptly. I went through a week of depression and feeling like I had a horrible flu.

I could not kick the 20mgs a day.

I finally went to the doc and he prescribed 10mg of oxycontin twice a day for the first week with 300mg of Wellbutrin, 10mg once a day for the second week, then stop altogether. I kept a chart and actually spaced out the 10mg dosages, 12 hours the first day, 13 hours the 2nd, 14 hours the third, 16 hours the 4th 10mg dose, etc. After the 4-5th day I was not waiting until it was time to take the dose. I am at 26 hours now and hope to be free relatively painlessly soon. I hope this helps.

[rremppee]

i just want to say oc(oxycontins) is the most life destroying substance i have ever encountered.  I wish i would have known then(knee surgery) what I know now!  The withdrawl (withdrawal) is pure 100% hell. Death seems enviting compared to the way I feel without this drug. I started taking it for pain, but it ends up it is the cause of all my pain. this drug is everywhere I turn three of my close family members are also on it(uncle,sister,aunt.)  
I really think this drug is next to impossible to beat.  it has a 99.9% relapse rate witch is that of heron.  This drug is legal drug dealing. I wish I could let the F.D.A. members feel the withdrawl (withdrawal) of this drug and see if they would hace passed it then.  I know one person that ate a bullet of trying to beat this addiction.  who knows i maybe the next!   don't believe your doctors they get kick backs from the pharm. incs. they dom't give a **** about me or you all they care about is that you(your ins.) keep paying for visits.  I wish I would have known then what I know know!!!

[madeline]

Hey all you wonderful people,

Well I havent been around in awhile,
but am glad to be here.  Well my tapering
from percocet has been so far working.
I am down from 15 a day to 6 or 7.
My question is my Doc cut off the scrip
and I probably have about 30 left.  I heard
you can switch over to vicodin at the end,
and I do have some left from the original
accident that lead to my surgery that
lead to my percocet addiction.
I am very curious to know if anyone out
there has gone from the  percocet to the
vicodin and how were the withdrawals in
the final stages.  I cant afford to call
in sick, and am wondering the best way
to complete the taper.  I am trying my
darnest to stick to the taper, and of course
I will add it is one of the hardest things
I have ever had to do in my life.  I am
just getting real scaird cause I am close
to out and finishing the taper. (And pray
to I NEVER go back to these little demon
pills again.  Upon awakening now, I wake
up in the morning with terrible stomach
cramps and headaches.  And I dont know how
bad they would get because I always pop
that first pill, but thank God I have been
able (SO FAR) to taper.  Any suggestions
love to hear them, and want to thank
all of you for everything.
love,
Madeline

[wicked]

wow guys! I thought I was having it bad. I've been on perks for 4 months steadily and off and on before that. I have back pain everyday and take my perks faithfully. Now, Iam tapering to one or two a day sometime I try to go without out on the weekends. Problem is lately I have had some bad dizzy spells to the point if I am driving I have to stop my car. Is this caused from the perks or withdrawls? I just started happening

[wicked]

wow guys! I thought I was having it bad. I've been on perks for 4 months steadily and off and on before that. I have back pain everyday and take my perks faithfully. Now, Iam tapering to one or two a day sometime I try to go without out on the weekends. Problem is lately I have had some bad dizzy spells to the point if I am driving I have to stop my car. Is this caused from the perks or withdrawls? I just started happening

[bsills]

Hellbent has the right approach to getting off of any physically addictive narcotic.  I would emphasize that one should wean as far as they can on their opiate of choice, and then switch to a different milder opioid in the smallest amounts possible, for the shortest time possible.  The idea is to get the physical problems down to the point where you must deal with the psychological, rather than the overcomplicating fact of the physical. And, oh yeah, lots of Benzos . . .

[bsills]

OLDTIMER obviously knows what he is talking about.

[mrmichael67]

Hellbent isn't the only one with that approach.  You just described tapering.  What a breakthrough!!!

[bsills]

Well, I described tapering with a twist, really.

[Aussie152]

I read with interest all the comments rergarding addiction to prescription pain killers. Let me tell you a little about what I can only describe as a hell even 5 weeks after going cold turkey.

I've been taking narcotics for a crumbling spine now for at least 20 years. Started with only Digesic (Paradex) but with tolerance my doctor started me on MS Contin (Morphine) 10mg became 30mg then 60mg, 100mg, 130mg twice daily, went to a pain clinic and was prescribed Kapanol (Morphine in granuals) taking 250mg a day, then 300mg and later 400mg. After about a year this was changed to methadone (the so called miracle drug), after 5 years on this I realised the this was the drug from hell. I was taking up to 120mg a day as my tolerance grew ever faster and on top of that I was still swallowing up to 400mg of Kapanol ( the stock I had left).

At 46 years of age I began to think what would happen if I got cancer or some other painfull illness, no pain medication would touch it.

So I made the decision, time to leave my comfortable haze. Cold Turkey I chose, I did not know what lay ahead, first 2 days fine, the next 4 weeks I had NO sleep, knawing torment throughout my upper body, chills, distress indescribable, stomach cramps, diarreah (diarrhea) like I've never known which after 5 weeks is still just as bad as 3 weeks earlier along with a wieght loss of currently 10 Kgs and still falling off. I am an immotional mess, even TV shows bring me to tears and as for my wife, well nothings happened between us in all that time.

The lessons I learn't and are still being reinforced is that be aware when you see your Doctor, don't take the first option, do some research first. Narcotics are not the answer unless you only have a short time to live, then addiction doesn't matter.

The hell of withdrawels is far worse than any pain I've ever experienced and as I write this, this hell goes on, for how long no one can tell me, this alone is extremely frustrating. Maybe someone in this forum may know. I am very weak now from the continuing diarreah (diarrhea), even if this could stop things would be improved. All medication has failed for this and my doctor has no answers.

It would be easy to return to the drugs but this would be a personal failure that I could not live with. I feel sorry for those that have gone back, they must be torn apart inside.

Aussie152

[INTIMADATOR3]

DEAR,OXYCLEAN                                                           I READ YOUR NOTE.I CAN UNDERSTAND YOUR PAIN,SICKNESS,& AND MOST OFF ALL YOR FEAR.ALTHOGH PLEASE TAKE SOME ADVISE FROM A PERSON WHO HAS BEEN WHERE YOUR AT RIGHT NOW.SEE I WAS HOOKED ON HYDROS,I WAS TAKING ABOUT 30 10mg. A DAY WHEN I THAUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEAL TO GET ON METHADONE.I HAD LAYED IN THE BED FOR A WEEK AT A TIME IN WITHDRAW WHEN WE HAD A BLIZZARD HER IN TN.I TOLD MYSELF I SHOLD KICK THE PILLS (EASIER SAID THEN DONE)SO WITH THE FEAR OF WITHRAW I TALKED MYSEF INTO GOING TO THE METHADONE CLINIC.THERE THE STAFF SD I WOULD ONKY NEED TO BE ON THE METHADONE FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME,THAT THEY WOULD HELP BRING ME OFF OF IT SLOWLEY.WHEN I TOOK THE FIRST DOSE I WAS IN LOVE. I HAD NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET HIGH IN 3 YEARS NO MATTER HOW MANY PAIN PILLS I EAT.SO THIS WAS GREAT ,I COULD FILL NORMAL(HIGH)THIS WAS LEGALE AND THE STAFF WAS GOING TO HELP ME COME OFF OF THE METHADONE SLOWLY SO THERE WOLD BE NO WITHDRAW RIGT? BOY WAS I SO VERY,VERY WRONG.A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME BECAME SEVEN YEARS OF HELL.I WENT FOM HAVING A MONKEY ON MY BACK TO AN APE.I ALSO STARTED USEING XANNAX (10 10mg. A DAY)AND TO TOP IT OFF SO I WOULDNT KEEP NODDING OFF I WAS DOING GRAM. OF CRYSTALMETHE A DAY.I REMEMBER MISSING 3 DAYS AT THE CLINIC BECAUSE OFF BROKEN RIBS.I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO DIE,NOT FROM THE RIBS BUT THE WITHDRAW OF METHADONE.WELL AS IT TURNED OUT I FINALLY O.D.ed ON THE CRYSTL XANNAX METHADONE AND 50 HYDROS.AFTER 4 DAYS OF FIGHTING TO LIVE MY MOTHER ASKED IF I WAS WILLING TO GO TO TREATMENT. ITOLD HER "IF YOU CAN FIND A PLACE THAT WILL DETOXE ME OFF THE METHADONE" NOWING THERE WAS NO WHERE IN KNOXVILLE THAT WOULD EVEN THINK ABOUT EXCEPTING ME(THEY WONT NO PART OF METHADONE)AFTER NUMERUS CLINCS IN TN. GA.SHE FOUND A PLCE IN CHATT. TN I WENT THERE SCARED TO DEATH.I HAD HEARD OF MANY PEOPLE DIEING IN JAIL FROM GOING COLD TURKEY.WELL THEY GAVE ME DARVONE FOR 3 DAYS .THEN A NEW DRUG CALLED SUBOXONE IT HAD ONLY BEEN APROVED ABOUT A MONTH THEN.THERE WERE ONLY 100 DOCTORS IN THE COUNTRY THAT COULD WRITE THIS. THE DOCTOR TOLD THAT I WOULD FILL NO WITHDRAW,THAT PEOPLE WERE CALLING THIS A MIRACLE DRUG THAT IT WAS A SCEDULE 3 NARCOTIC ALL THOUG IT HAD NO WITHRAW TO IT. I THAUHT YEA RIGTH!!!! HE WAS RIGHT I AGREE IT IS A MIRACLE DRUG .I WAS ABLE TO KICK THE MTHDONE AND AFTER 17 DAYS I WAS TAKEN OFF THE SUBOXONE. YUU DO NOT WANT TO BE DEPENDANT ON METHADONE. CHECK OYT THIS NEW DRUG THERE IS 2 OF THEME CONTANING THE SAME CHEM. THE 1 I TOOK SUBOXONE AND THERE IS SUBATEX.YOU ALLSO DONT HAVE TO GO INT TREATMENT TO GET IT DOCTORS ARE TRETING PATIENCE IN THER OFFIC.IT IS FOR OPPIATE WITHDRAW. IF I CAN COME OFF 7 YEARS OF MTHDONE USE WITH VERY LITTLE PAIN & SICKNESS.I GARANTEE YOU WILL HAVE NO PROB. KICKING OXYS.LOOK IT UP AT METHADONE WATCHDOG.COM .GOOD LUCK                                    INTIMADATOR

[INTIMADATOR3]

DEAR,OXYCLEAN                                                           I READ YOUR NOTE.I CAN UNDERSTAND YOUR PAIN,SICKNESS,& AND MOST OFF ALL YOR FEAR.ALTHOGH PLEASE TAKE SOME ADVISE FROM A PERSON WHO HAS BEEN WHERE YOUR AT RIGHT NOW.SEE I WAS HOOKED ON HYDROS,I WAS TAKING ABOUT 30 10mg. A DAY WHEN I THAUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEAL TO GET ON METHADONE.I HAD LAYED IN THE BED FOR A WEEK AT A TIME IN WITHDRAW WHEN WE HAD A BLIZZARD HER IN TN.I TOLD MYSELF I SHOLD KICK THE PILLS (EASIER SAID THEN DONE)SO WITH THE FEAR OF WITHRAW I TALKED MYSEF INTO GOING TO THE METHADONE CLINIC.THERE THE STAFF SD I WOULD ONKY NEED TO BE ON THE METHADONE FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME,THAT THEY WOULD HELP BRING ME OFF OF IT SLOWLEY.WHEN I TOOK THE FIRST DOSE I WAS IN LOVE. I HAD NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET HIGH IN 3 YEARS NO MATTER HOW MANY PAIN PILLS I EAT.SO THIS WAS GREAT ,I COULD FILL NORMAL(HIGH)THIS WAS LEGALE AND THE STAFF WAS GOING TO HELP ME COME OFF OF THE METHADONE SLOWLY SO THERE WOLD BE NO WITHDRAW RIGT? BOY WAS I SO VERY,VERY WRONG.A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME BECAME SEVEN YEARS OF HELL.I WENT FOM HAVING A MONKEY ON MY BACK TO AN APE.I ALSO STARTED USEING XANNAX (10 10mg. A DAY)AND TO TOP IT OFF SO I WOULDNT KEEP NODDING OFF I WAS DOING GRAM. OF CRYSTALMETHE A DAY.I REMEMBER MISSING 3 DAYS AT THE CLINIC BECAUSE OFF BROKEN RIBS.I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO DIE,NOT FROM THE RIBS BUT THE WITHDRAW OF METHADONE.WELL AS IT TURNED OUT I FINALLY O.D.ed ON THE CRYSTL XANNAX METHADONE AND 50 HYDROS.AFTER 4 DAYS OF FIGHTING TO LIVE MY MOTHER ASKED IF I WAS WILLING TO GO TO TREATMENT. ITOLD HER "IF YOU CAN FIND A PLACE THAT WILL DETOXE ME OFF THE METHADONE" NOWING THERE WAS NO WHERE IN KNOXVILLE THAT WOULD EVEN THINK ABOUT EXCEPTING ME(THEY WONT NO PART OF METHADONE)AFTER NUMERUS CLINCS IN TN. GA.SHE FOUND A PLCE IN CHATT. TN I WENT THERE SCARED TO DEATH.I HAD HEARD OF MANY PEOPLE DIEING IN JAIL FROM GOING COLD TURKEY.WELL THEY GAVE ME DARVONE FOR 3 DAYS .THEN A NEW DRUG CALLED SUBOXONE IT HAD ONLY BEEN APROVED ABOUT A MONTH THEN.THERE WERE ONLY 100 DOCTORS IN THE COUNTRY THAT COULD WRITE THIS. THE DOCTOR TOLD THAT I WOULD FILL NO WITHDRAW,THAT PEOPLE WERE CALLING THIS A MIRACLE DRUG THAT IT WAS A SCEDULE 3 NARCOTIC ALL THOUG IT HAD NO WITHRAW TO IT. I THAUHT YEA RIGTH!!!! HE WAS RIGHT I AGREE IT IS A MIRACLE DRUG .I WAS ABLE TO KICK THE MTHDONE AND AFTER 17 DAYS I WAS TAKEN OFF THE SUBOXONE. YUU DO NOT WANT TO BE DEPENDANT ON METHADONE. CHECK OYT THIS NEW DRUG THERE IS 2 OF THEME CONTANING THE SAME CHEM. THE 1 I TOOK SUBOXONE AND THERE IS SUBATEX.YOU ALLSO DONT HAVE TO GO INT TREATMENT TO GET IT DOCTORS ARE TRETING PATIENCE IN THER OFFIC.IT IS FOR OPPIATE WITHDRAW. IF I CAN COME OFF 7 YEARS OF MTHDONE USE WITH VERY LITTLE PAIN & SICKNESS.I GARANTEE YOU WILL HAVE NO PROB. KICKING OXYS.LOOK IT UP AT METHADONE WATCHDOG.COM .GOOD LUCK                                    INTIMADATOR

[INTIMADATOR3]

DEAR,OXYCLEAN                                                                 I READ YOR STORY. I WAS ON METHADONE FOR 7 YEARS. BELEIVE ME WHEN ISAY IT WAS THE BIGGEST MISTAKE OF MY LIFE.THERE IS A NEW DUG CALLED SUBOXONE & AND SUBATEX FOR OPPITE WITHDRAW. I WAS ABBLE TO KICK METADONE WITH THE SUBOXONE.PEOPLE WERE SAYING IT WAS A MIRACLE DRUG. I HAVE TO AGRRE IT KEEP ME FROM FELLING AS IF I WERE DIENG. AND THE GRAET THING IS IT IS A SCEDULE 3 NARCOTIC AND IT HAS NO WITDRAW. LOOK IT UP YOU CAN FIND INFO AT METHADONEWATCHDOG.COM ALSO HAS A DOCTOR LISTING. IF I CAN KICK METHADONE WITH IT .I GARANTEE YOU WILL FILL NO PAIN FROM THE OXYs. TRY IT .YOU DO NOT WANT TO GET HOOKED ON METHADONE.                                                                                                                                                           INTIMADATOR                                                                                            

[INTIMADATOR3]

DEAR,OXYCLEAN                                                                 I READ YOR STORY. I WAS ON METHADONE FOR 7 YEARS. BELEIVE ME WHEN ISAY IT WAS THE BIGGEST MISTAKE OF MY LIFE.THERE IS A NEW DUG CALLED SUBOXONE & AND SUBATEX FOR OPPITE WITHDRAW. I WAS ABBLE TO KICK METADONE WITH THE SUBOXONE.PEOPLE WERE SAYING IT WAS A MIRACLE DRUG. I HAVE TO AGRRE IT KEEP ME FROM FELLING AS IF I WERE DIENG. AND THE GRAET THING IS IT IS A SCEDULE 3 NARCOTIC AND IT HAS NO WITDRAW. LOOK IT UP YOU CAN FIND INFO AT METHADONEWATCHDOG.COM ALSO HAS A DOCTOR LISTING. IF I CAN KICK METHADONE WITH IT .I GARANTEE YOU WILL FILL NO PAIN FROM THE OXYs. TRY IT .YOU DO NOT WANT TO GET HOOKED ON METHADONE.                                                                                                                                                           INTIMADATOR                                                                                            

[SICK NICK]

HEY HOWS EVERYONE DOING, I NEED SOME ADVICE I AM CURRENTLY TAKING 4 20 MG OCS A DAY, I AM CHEWING THEM, WHAT WOULD BE THE EASIEST WAY FOR ME TO GET OF OF OXYS,I HAVE BEEN ON THEM FOR 6 MONTHS , I WAS DOING 160 MGS A DAY I SOME HOW STARTED SUBCONSCIOUSLY DECIDING TO SEE HOW LONG I CAN GO UNTIL I REALLY NEEDED ONE .  THEN I TOOK IT WHEN I REALLY NEEDED IT AND ENDED UP CUTTING DOWN TO 80 MGS A DAY OVER A PERIOD OF 2 - 3 WEEKS.. I BELIEVED THAT IF I DIDN'T CHASE THE HIGH AND JUST TAKE ENOUGH TO KEEP ME NORMAL NOT HIGH I WOULD BE ABLE TO CUT DOWN AND IT WORKED FOR ME, ANYWAY THE PROBLEM IS THAT I WANNA KNOW IF HYDROCODONE WOULD BE GOOD FOR ME IF I COME OF THE OCS AND HOW MUCH HYDROCODONE I SHOULD TAKE A DAY WHEN I SWITCH TO THE HYDROCODONE...I ALSO WENT THROUGH A DETOX BEFORE COLD TURKEY AND ENDED UP IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM WITH PANIC ATTACKS AND BLOOD PRESSURE WENT TO 230/150 AND I STARTED HYPERVENTILATED,WHEN I GOT TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM THEY GAVE ME A SHOT OF ATIVAN AND IT BROUGHT MY BLOOD PRESSURE DOWN, HAS ANYONE ELSE GOTTEN PANIC ATTACKS AND HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE COMING OF OF HIGH DOSES OF ANY OPIATES OR IS THIS A MEDICAL CONDITION THAT I HAVE I DO NOT NO ABOUT.. PLEASE HELP ME AND THE BEST OF LUCK TO ALL OF YOU.. THANK YOU, NICK..........

MY BLOODPRESSURE IS FINE WHEN I AM ON OPIATES , EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE I HAVE A LITTLE PANIC ATTACK AND MY BP GOES UP TO LIKE 150/95 AND THEN BACK DOWN, THANK YOU NICK......

[SICK NICK]

HEY HOWS EVERYONE DOING, I NEED SOME ADVICE I AM CURRENTLY TAKING 4 20 MG OCS A DAY, I AM CHEWING THEM, WHAT WOULD BE THE EASIEST WAY FOR ME TO GET OF OF OXYS,I HAVE BEEN ON THEM FOR 6 MONTHS , I WAS DOING 160 MGS A DAY I SOME HOW STARTED SUBCONSCIOUSLY DECIDING TO SEE HOW LONG I CAN GO UNTIL I REALLY NEEDED ONE .  THEN I TOOK IT WHEN I REALLY NEEDED IT AND ENDED UP CUTTING DOWN TO 80 MGS A DAY OVER A PERIOD OF 2 - 3 WEEKS.. I BELIEVED THAT IF I DIDN'T CHASE THE HIGH AND JUST TAKE ENOUGH TO KEEP ME NORMAL NOT HIGH I WOULD BE ABLE TO CUT DOWN AND IT WORKED FOR ME, ANYWAY THE PROBLEM IS THAT I WANNA KNOW IF HYDROCODONE WOULD BE GOOD FOR ME IF I COME OF THE OCS AND HOW MUCH HYDROCODONE I SHOULD TAKE A DAY WHEN I SWITCH TO THE HYDROCODONE...I ALSO WENT THROUGH A DETOX BEFORE COLD TURKEY AND ENDED UP IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM WITH PANIC ATTACKS AND BLOOD PRESSURE WENT TO 230/150 AND I STARTED HYPERVENTILATED,WHEN I GOT TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM THEY GAVE ME A SHOT OF ATIVAN AND IT BROUGHT MY BLOOD PRESSURE DOWN, HAS ANYONE ELSE GOTTEN PANIC ATTACKS AND HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE COMING OF OF HIGH DOSES OF ANY OPIATES OR IS THIS A MEDICAL CONDITION THAT I HAVE I DO NOT NO ABOUT.. PLEASE HELP ME AND THE BEST OF LUCK TO ALL OF YOU.. THANK YOU, NICK..........

MY BLOODPRESSURE IS FINE WHEN I AM ON OPIATES , EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE I HAVE A LITTLE PANIC ATTACK AND MY BP GOES UP TO LIKE 150/95 AND THEN BACK DOWN, THANK YOU NICK......

[SICK NICK]

HEY HOWS EVERYONE DOING, I NEED SOME ADVICE I AM CURRENTLY TAKING 4 20 MG OCS A DAY, I AM CHEWING THEM, WHAT WOULD BE THE EASIEST WAY FOR ME TO GET OF OF OXYS,I HAVE BEEN ON THEM FOR 6 MONTHS , I WAS DOING 160 MGS A DAY I SOME HOW STARTED SUBCONSCIOUSLY DECIDING TO SEE HOW LONG I CAN GO UNTIL I REALLY NEEDED ONE .  THEN I TOOK IT WHEN I REALLY NEEDED IT AND ENDED UP CUTTING DOWN TO 80 MGS A DAY OVER A PERIOD OF 2 - 3 WEEKS.. I BELIEVED THAT IF I DIDN'T CHASE THE HIGH AND JUST TAKE ENOUGH TO KEEP ME NORMAL NOT HIGH I WOULD BE ABLE TO CUT DOWN AND IT WORKED FOR ME, ANYWAY THE PROBLEM IS THAT I WANNA KNOW IF HYDROCODONE WOULD BE GOOD FOR ME IF I COME OF THE OCS AND HOW MUCH HYDROCODONE I SHOULD TAKE A DAY WHEN I SWITCH TO THE HYDROCODONE...I ALSO WENT THROUGH A DETOX BEFORE COLD TURKEY AND ENDED UP IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM WITH PANIC ATTACKS AND BLOOD PRESSURE WENT TO 230/150 AND I STARTED HYPERVENTILATED,WHEN I GOT TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM THEY GAVE ME A SHOT OF ATIVAN AND IT BROUGHT MY BLOOD PRESSURE DOWN, HAS ANYONE ELSE GOTTEN PANIC ATTACKS AND HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE COMING OF OF HIGH DOSES OF ANY OPIATES OR IS THIS A MEDICAL CONDITION THAT I HAVE I DO NOT NO ABOUT.. PLEASE HELP ME AND THE BEST OF LUCK TO ALL OF YOU.. THANK YOU, NICK..........

MY BLOODPRESSURE IS FINE WHEN I AM ON OPIATES , EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE I HAVE A LITTLE PANIC ATTACK AND MY BP GOES UP TO LIKE 150/95 AND THEN BACK DOWN, THANK YOU NICK......

[IHateMeds]

Hi Everyone, this is my first time posting here...I hope I can find my way back to this board to see if I got any responses.  Reading everyone elses posts has been very helpful to me, and I would personally like to thank all who have been brave enough to share their stories.  I had a few questions to anyone who might be able to help...  I have been off of Percocets and Oxy's for 3 months now (I was taking upwards of 180 mgs a day)I am still having problems with diarrhea and also depression/crying jags.  Is this normal to still be having physical and emotional problems after 3 months clean???  I would have thought I would be 'better' by now... this is very discouraging.  I see others write posts that they are feeling better after 5-7 days, and that scares the hell out of me.  Of course I am happy for them, but it makes me feel as if I did some sort of permanent damage to my body/brain that I am still feeling sick and depressed after 3 months.  Any words of wisdom from others that had a longer than normal withdrawal period would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance to anyone responding to my post. Hang in there everyone...WHAT DOESNT KILL YOU ONLY MAKES YOU STRONGER!

[IHateMeds]

Hi Everyone, this is my first time posting here...I hope I can find my way back to this board to see if I got any responses.  Reading everyone elses posts has been very helpful to me, and I would personally like to thank all who have been brave enough to share their stories.  I had a few questions to anyone who might be able to help...  I have been off of Percocets and Oxy's for 3 months now (I was taking upwards of 180 mgs a day)I am still having problems with diarrhea and also depression/crying jags.  Is this normal to still be having physical and emotional problems after 3 months clean???  I would have thought I would be 'better' by now... this is very discouraging.  I see others write posts that they are feeling better after 5-7 days, and that scares the hell out of me.  Of course I am happy for them, but it makes me feel as if I did some sort of permanent damage to my body/brain that I am still feeling sick and depressed after 3 months.  Any words of wisdom from others that had a longer than normal withdrawal period would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance to anyone responding to my post. Hang in there everyone...WHAT DOESNT KILL YOU ONLY MAKES YOU STRONGER!

[carebear2001]

My doctor just last week went through a plan to slow down my medications. I am on 120mg of oxycotin and 50mg of percacet a day along with a butrain paatch at 10mcg/hour. He was going to do something different then oxycotin that wouldnt effect my liver but i didnt know the name, and still do 5 percacets then go down and just take me off the patch. Then today i tried to makw the appointment to get my meds refilled and the woman there said he sent me a dimissile letter which means he wont do pain medications, with no notice!!! What will happen to me and what should I do if I cant find a new doctor, which at the time there arent any taking new patients.
Thanks,
from desprite

[ricart70]

Hi carebear,This thread is ten years old almost.If you post your question on the addictions forum of med help there will be alot of people there to help you.Why are you on all of this medication.Were you in an accident?

[addicted2009]

Did the Welbutrin help with the depression? I have been abusing adderrall for the last 4 years and want to taper it down but fear the depression and constant sleeping. I have read in several posts that Welbutrin helps. Was your doctor open to writing the script? I currently take Prozac and feel it does nothing.