How's the Skipper doing?

[GOD]

Skip...

I'm afraid that we all need an update on your situation. I tried calling you last night, and the phone rang and rang... I know I dialed the # right! What's up with that?

Incedentially, my Aunt is doing pretty damned good, but probably going to go back on the meds for her back... (So the back surgeon says..) His name is Liebrock-- Know him?

Update us, oh master of the forum...

Hophead Jess
Tramadol Junkie jess

Jess

[groovygirl]

yeah, where are you?  when you don't post, we get worried.  from now on, you have to check in here at least once a day.

[skipper]

hey whats up?

certainly not me. lets see job hunting is not only a drag, but al-
so a total loss...how bad is it? well jess you will understand
this one. MRS. B TURNED ME DOWN!! whats next, a job where i ask
"do you want frys too?"

found out i've got carpal tunnel sydrome real bad in both hands,
so i've got to get that done in my left hand first. no point even
looking till thats delt with!

i hate to **** and moan...so i'm gonna stop here for now...maybe
walking the dog will help clear my head

my wife had the phone tied up last night...logged on to the VA
system. they still have not discovered the internet. call me any
time though...

keep an angel on your shoulder
kip

[Chezz]

hELP PLEASE. I HAVE BEEN ADDICTED TO STADOL FOR OVER 10 YEARS. TOOK IT FOR MIGRAINES AND SEVERE DAILY HEADACHES. NOW MY SUPPLY HAS BEEN CUT OFF. I WILL START WITHDRAWAL TONIGHT I GUESS. I AM TERRIFIED. HAVE NO IDEA WHAT TOP EXPECT. I HAVE AN 8 Y O DAUGHTER WHO NEEDS ME. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE SEND ME PHONE NUMBER ON E-MAIL AND I WILL TALK TO THEM ON PHONE? PLEASE I NEED HELP. I AM A PROFESSIONAL WOMAN LIVING IN FL. HAVE A MASTERS DEGREE.
I AM TERRIFIED. PLEASE POST HERE WHAT TO EXPECT FROM OPIATE WIHTDRAWAL. WILL I BE ABLE TO TAKE MY DAUGHTER TO SCHOOL IN THE A.M.?
PLEASE HELP...

I copied and pasted this here since she posted so low on the thread. Can someone help. I am not familiar with Stadol.
Thanks,
Chezz

[Jeff31]

Stadol, is from the same family as morphine and dilaudid. So i am assuming the withdrawl is going to be the same as most of us have experienced. It will not be fun. Was she using the spray or the injections? I am sure you will be able to take your daughter to school, but you wont feel like doing it. You will be in extreme discomfort. But you have to fight through it. You will want to stay close to a bathroom for awhile. Like a couple of days.
Jeff
Email me if you want to talk on the phone.
***@****

[JSmith02]

10 years of constant use? Boy, I don't want to add to your fears, but if there's any way you can get some medical help, do it. Buprenorphin (buprenex) seems to be a virtually painless way to detox. I don't know much about Stadol. Tried the inhaler a few times, but it was way too expensive to keep it up. Your doc just cut you off, huh? Another humanitarian. If it's like other opioid WD's, some regular (and high) doses of a benzo such as Valium, Klonopin, librium, ativan, etc. will help get you through the first few days. If you get body aches, take lots of hot baths. Don't put them off. They really help. Also, have some Imodium (immodium) handy for the runs. Take as much as you need to stop them. But it would be good if you could talk to someone familiar with Stadol WD, considering how long you've been on it. Good luck. Stay in touch through this. If you like, you can reach me privately at ***@****. However, as I said, I don't know much about Stadol specifically.

Thomas

[JSmith02]

Hey, angel, I'm going through the same thing. I've been a technical writer for the software industry for the last 10 years. Now there are zero jobs open in that field. I use to have my pick. Now, I'm living on unemployment and trying to figure out how I can wangle an under the table job to make ends meet. My back won'tlet me do physical work, and most offices won't touch me -- overqualified, don't you know. Maybe I can get a job handing out Methadone doses. With any luck, they'll be a little spillage. LOL.

Thomas

[skipper]

thomas:
thank the gods (or whomever) for people like you...i'm not alone..
just miserable...but not alone!
keep an angel on your shoulder!
kip

[alexandra_r]

Hey there--sorry to hear about your unemployement problems.  I might have a suggestion for you.  Have you ever thought about teaching technical writing online?  The reason I ask is because I work for a major university in Northern California and I teach 5 classes, all online.  I am paid per student, and if you have as many students as I do, this can add up.

Some classes you need a Ph.D. for, others a Masters.  But for computer ed classes, often, you only need a bachelors degree.  

There are also other methods of making money online (without them being scams).  I have been working via the Internet for the last 2 years.  Last year, I made 50,000+.  All the jobs I have worked for have been with institutions that are totally legit, none have charged anything to begin with and all have been extremely reliable pay-wise.

This method (unfortunately) only works for those who have higher education.  But if this is you--scream and I'll hollar back at you.

[suzieneedshelp]

Thank you for your replies.  I have chickened out and got a prescription for darvocet from my Dr.  I'm not sure how this will help.  But I'm not feeling as restless now.  Anyway... I am still tryng to get more of the stadol for tomorrow.  I guess I'm too scared to go for it yet.  I really want to taper off. But I was supposed to the last few bottles of stadol and did not.  Just kept on full strength as if in some denial.  You see I am also compulsive obsessive so I use just to have something to do...Kinda self destructive. Anyway I have never spoken to other addicts before..So this is all new to me.  I'm just a baby I guess thinking about tiptoeing onto the road to recovery.
Thank you for caring about me.. a total stranger
Suzie

[suzieneedshelp]

Thank you for your replies.  I have chickened out and got a prescription for darvocet from my Dr.  I'm not sure how this will help.  But I'm not feeling as restless now.  Anyway... I am still tryng to get more of the stadol for tomorrow.  I guess I'm too scared to go for it yet.  I really want to taper off. But I was supposed to the last few bottles of stadol and did not.  Just kept on full strength as if in some denial.  You see I am also compulsive obsessive so I use just to have something to do...Kinda self destructive. Anyway I have never spoken to other addicts before..So this is all new to me.  I'm just a baby I guess thinking about tiptoeing onto the road to recovery.
Thank you for caring about me.. a total stranger
Suzie

[suzieneedshelp]

Thank you for your replies.  I have chickened out and got a prescription for darvocet from my Dr.  I'm not sure how this will help.  But I'm not feeling as restless now.  Anyway... I am still tryng to get more of the stadol for tomorrow.  I guess I'm too scared to go for it yet.  I really want to taper off. But I was supposed to the last few bottles of stadol and did not.  Just kept on full strength as if in some denial.  You see I am also compulsive obsessive so I use just to have something to do...Kinda self destructive. Anyway I have never spoken to other addicts before..So this is all new to me.  I'm just a baby I guess thinking about tiptoeing onto the road to recovery.
Thank you for caring about me.. a total stranger
Suzie

[suzieneedshelp]

sorry i reload to see response and it resends my last comment..go figure...
Suzie

[skipper]

hey everyone:
notes from the unemployed-
1)don't worry about me...i still have a roof over my head, food to eat, and the love of a fine woman and a crazy dog
2)even while a medium high dose of oxy, i am periodically overcome with a nameless fear...
3) i have severance until mid December, then i have to burn off my vaction time.

the main problem right now is i have to make a decision real quick, have carpal tunnel surgery, or take the first job (reguardless of how crummy) that is offered. i turned one down yesterday, because of low pay, then had regrets i did.

everyone but me seems to think i'll find a good job...well my wife admitted to waking up every night since this has happened, and having her "worry hour." she (my wife) is more concerned i will take a job i hate (isn't that why it's called work?).

thomas:
my thoughts were of you yesterday. what is unemployment in cali-
fornia like? it sucks in nebraska. i spent most of the day watch-
ing live coverage of a bank robbery in a small town about 60
miles from here. 5 people shot dead... i guess one does not ever
have to look to far or long to see a world far worse than your
own!

keep an angel on your shoulder
kip

[groovygirl]

that is a bummer about the carpal tunnel - i had my left hand done at the beginning of the summer.  it was very easy surgery...it hurt really bad the first day after the numbing stuff wore off, but after that it was relatively painless. i was supposed to have the right hand done last month, but i was too busy so i put it off for awhile.

sorry about the job situation... alexandra_r (on this thread) had an idea about internet work - you could do it from home - would something like that interest you?  you are a great writer...what about doing freelance work for some local newspapers?  i freelance (on a regular basis) for a newspaper in boston...i never wanted to become "staff" because i love the freedom of working from home.  plus i have time to work on the book that i am trying to finish writing.  anyhow...just a thought.

i hope you have a better day today:)

[skipper]

groovy:
thanks for your reply. i probably will have my left hand done. it
just went numb about an hour ago...relly wierd, it just sort of
shut it's self off. now it's waking up, and it really hurts. i
guess life (at least mine) is the pain/pleasure principal.

alenadra's got herself a good thing going with web-based education.
i doubt my degree and background (theatre) woulde lend itself to
much in the distance learning game. i wonder if i could teach a
class in being a thief and drug felon...hey it's a growth industry.

keep an angel on your shoulder
kip

[groovygirl]

haha - you are too funny...and too hard on yourself.  seriously, i think you would be an excellent writer.  have you ever considered it?

my right hand hurts most at night...i wake in pain a couple times a night...i have to get it taken care of soon.

[deva]

the darvocet wont do much,after taking high amounts of opiods,if that were ever to happen to you again,i would go to the emegency room to get something,and tell them you tried to stop all your prescriptions cold turkey,they would give you something for the experience that moment and then give you a tapering schedual with some vicodin or percs....that is if you told them that you had no idea that it was habit forming and you truly want to stop taking it,but have to take care of your child.i ould still tell your doc. that you are having a harder time than you expected to,and get his help.what were you taking it for and for how long,and how much???ill try to help.stay tuned,we are here for you...love deva

[skipper]

groovy:
tell me how you posted after surgery. was the one handed typeing
difficult or just slow? i go see the surgeon monday. speaking of
the surgeon....he is a little ass-hole if there ever was one. i've
had consults with him about my neck. he's real conservetive and al-
so a top notch neuro-surgeon...so i gues he can get away with being
an ass-hole. i no sooner finished a call from his office, when the
pain doc called...(same hospital)... aparently doc ******* doesn't
want to perscribe any pain meds to me  (am i that famous?)...so
the pain doc's office will take care of all that (they usually do
any how). i haven't even seen the guy and already he acts like
this? oh-well so long as he is good. i'm not looking forward to this.

keep an angel on your shoulder
kip

[groovygirl]

the first day i couldn't type or do anything, but after that i could type with both hands...it was slower but not impossible.  i had full motion with my fingers...i really overdid things tho and ripped stitches...it didn't heal as nicely as it could have.

sorry to hear about the *******...some are like that - good thing you have a nice pain doc.  did asshold hear about your addiction problems or something?  what was his reason for not wanting to prescribe?  i said no thanks to pain meds, because i had the bup which worked great....no more pills for me, but now i have this friggin bup addiction.  what is wrong with me?????

how come you didn't answer my question about writing?  i think you have some talent there, and you seem to like to do it.  stay cool....

[hippy]

hey guys , i got a cortazone injection in my funny bone wensday and the arm finnaly feels better after 4 weeks of agony.
i am still laid off from the union but i have a lot of my own work to do. and i have a few possible connections in the union.
my god fater was a philly union  rooffer  leader who was assanatited in the late 80's
jhon mcollagh. i still get union  jobs because of him.
anyway life is good  but the move to the new house has me in a sort of daze or delayed schock. i lived at my last house for 17 years. so the big change is hard for me being a addict i dont like changes , and big ones mess with my head, good or bad.

good to read all your post latley

peace  michael joseph o'higgins

[groovygirl]

i'm sorry to hear about your job situation...it sounds like many people are in the same boat these days.  does the cortizone help your elbow?

thanks for your kind words in the thread closer to the top.  i do try to be honest here, because i feel it's the only way to get free from addiction.  however, some people just cannot deal with the truth...it's much easier to lie sometimes.  

i hope you have a good day today:)

[skipper]

groovygirl:
you are one of the people i have a great deal of respet for on this forum. why?" cause a lot ot the stuff you say tends to kinda **** me off (we have a large difference in back ground (you use dto work
the doc's like a job...i used to be pharmacys like a full time job!

your method was "socially much more acceptable that mine. i put my
ass and abbility on the line. also i used to sell to people like
you. i am sorry for




groovy;
i value your opinions as highly as anyone on this forum. don't
forget that my ability  to express myself  in an acceptable man-
ner is probably lacking.) to say the things i need to say, gram-
mer punction and spelling are much more important. i'm not the best at this. i have to find some one to help on this. are
you willing to help? do not feel bad if you can't. i will understand completely. it
is probably a thankless job, but i had to ask as i am totally ignorant about the next step to take.

allow me to say, it is with grear honor to hear you think that
my writing merits this next step. if you have suggestions or any
thing else. please send them right along!

i do not wish to endanger our friendship in any way. it is very important to me. more important than publishing! ok?

as always.. keep an angel on your shoulder
kip

[groovygirl]

hi - i'm a little confused by your post.  if you feel comfortable leaving your email here, (i don't) we could chat more.