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I came clean and got shot down!
I have posted here before as a Fioricet and Adderall addict. I see that some people have read it. Well, I came clean to my husband last night. I wish ANYONE could have been a fly on the wall for this converstaion. It went down like this. First, I must tell you my husband is a DEA agent in Miami, so telling him was definitely rough. I told him that I take too many pills and that I want and need to quit. He said that he already knew, but he though that I seemed fine, taking care of our 3 month old daughter just fine and that other that spending too much money all was JUST FINE. Okay, I said that I'm not fine and I need to go into detox. He absolutely refused to let me go! He said there is no way that I could go, noone could take care of our baby and he could not do it himself. I would have to detox at home. I said, I could try to do it but I will need help. He said...(get this) just stop and take a couple of shot s of Vodka if I get shaky. So here I am, he's at work....I have Vodka and a 3 month old. Thank God I have a few pills left. He took the rest that I didn't have hidden. I cannot beleive this! What the hell am I in for?
You are doing just fine! I like the way you sound now and I think that you are on track about this life of addiction. It's a daily struggle for me and you and Pelle. Maybe we can help eachother somehow? Take care and be well. J.B.
Your opinion is not "unwelcome", that's why were here, isn't it? To hear what other people have been through or going through.....I found this website to be very eye opening. I have learned a lot about addiction. I know that I am not alone. I feel very alone most of the time. I have just started back to work and I feel great about that. I haven't felt this good in a long time. I am still in my viscious drug cycle though, I am afraid of withdrwals.
I don't mean to jump in where I'm not wanted -- I'd just like to say one final thing and then leave it alone. I am far from an expert on recovery, but am certainly an expert on addiction.
You will not do this on your own.
Not to be an ******* or try to prove anything to you, but when you say such things as "I don't even count the damn amount that I take," how can you possibly expect to be able to taper?
When every addict I have met has gone through multiple detoxes and rehabs (some up to fifteen-plus times) before managing to get clean and stay clean (and *still* sometimes experiencing relapse), you understand how I cannot possibly imagine anyone doing something like this on their own. This isn't just a small circle of personal friends, either -- it's many, many people I've met at many, many meetings, of every age, race, religion (or lack thereof), sexual orientation, economic condition, and anything else you can think of. The disease does not discriminate. It's the ultimate equal-opportunity destroyer.
Enough with the slogans and catch phrases. I apologize if my opinion is unwelcome, as I suspect it will be, and I will have no further uninvited comment on your situation. I just needed to say this. Thanks for reading and in any case, my prayers go with you.
Peace,
Pelle
You will not do this on your own.
Not to be an ******* or try to prove anything to you, but when you say such things as "I don't even count the damn amount that I take," how can you possibly expect to be able to taper?
When every addict I have met has gone through multiple detoxes and rehabs (some up to fifteen-plus times) before managing to get clean and stay clean (and *still* sometimes experiencing relapse), you understand how I cannot possibly imagine anyone doing something like this on their own. This isn't just a small circle of personal friends, either -- it's many, many people I've met at many, many meetings, of every age, race, religion (or lack thereof), sexual orientation, economic condition, and anything else you can think of. The disease does not discriminate. It's the ultimate equal-opportunity destroyer.
Enough with the slogans and catch phrases. I apologize if my opinion is unwelcome, as I suspect it will be, and I will have no further uninvited comment on your situation. I just needed to say this. Thanks for reading and in any case, my prayers go with you.
Peace,
Pelle
First of all, I am responsible for my own actions! I interrupted a post up top....(Oxycontin) and I'm trying to get help the only way that I can.
I'm not going to file for divorce, I have my child in daycare and I just returned back to work. I am still addicted, but I am trying to seek help in ways that I can. PLease don't judge me! I am trying so hard to function. I don't want pity......I want to wean off myself and go to therapy.
I'm not going to file for divorce, I have my child in daycare and I just returned back to work. I am still addicted, but I am trying to seek help in ways that I can. PLease don't judge me! I am trying so hard to function. I don't want pity......I want to wean off myself and go to therapy.
I want to convey to you..YOU do what you need to do for YOU and taht baby ..you are NOT a team he's proven this to you..and you must act for YOURSELF ...this uncaring and unloving behavior of his probably one reason youre addicted..oh I know Im not saying youre not responsible for your own behavior and blaming ..here.
BUT your husband is not interested in what's best for YOU, this he has proven. I think he's looking out for NUMBER ONE HERE. I think perhaps something that has not been mentioned he does NOT want this flagged to anyone's attention..via his insurance, it sure wouldnt look good to the department (DEA) to have an agent's wife in for detox. He's perhaps worried about having his sorry a$$ being accused of perhaps aiding and abedding you with confiscated goodies???
Either way special pre-authorization is usually required for admission into detox trust me I've been there and the insurance companies do NOT want to pay for it..secondarily to relapse rates and expense and stigma.
I say DO IT do it NOW get that baby..to your mother's or some trusted friend...or relative..if you feel that he'd try to take the baby and file temp div. papers..get that done FIRST..a temp. order of custody and give your parents or whoever's got the baby power of attny. to act in the interest of the child during your stay in detox. Look into rapid detox regimines, Im sure someone in Miami offers URDA. and most of all best of luck to you and God Bless and God's speed to recovery!!!
BUT your husband is not interested in what's best for YOU, this he has proven. I think he's looking out for NUMBER ONE HERE. I think perhaps something that has not been mentioned he does NOT want this flagged to anyone's attention..via his insurance, it sure wouldnt look good to the department (DEA) to have an agent's wife in for detox. He's perhaps worried about having his sorry a$$ being accused of perhaps aiding and abedding you with confiscated goodies???
Either way special pre-authorization is usually required for admission into detox trust me I've been there and the insurance companies do NOT want to pay for it..secondarily to relapse rates and expense and stigma.
I say DO IT do it NOW get that baby..to your mother's or some trusted friend...or relative..if you feel that he'd try to take the baby and file temp div. papers..get that done FIRST..a temp. order of custody and give your parents or whoever's got the baby power of attny. to act in the interest of the child during your stay in detox. Look into rapid detox regimines, Im sure someone in Miami offers URDA. and most of all best of luck to you and God Bless and God's speed to recovery!!!
Sometimes you just gotta jump right in. You sound stressed out.
What has been going on? We don't mean to be insensative.
What has been going on? We don't mean to be insensative.
No horse-playing.........I'm going grab some lunch. Care to join me???? BLT sounds good.
I am going to email you on that one! Full of inuendos. I beleive in being straight forward. Maybe I couldn't crack the code, because I am fried to a crisp. haaaaaaaaaaaaa
Brain fried that is. J>J>ing.....I am in pain, have been, and always will be......so it seems. My brain tunes most of it out. Then I get to the breaking point. I am salvaging the little meds I have left. I have degenerative arthritis and bone spurs. It will get worse.....I am just beginning to tread a path toward lifetime treatment/options. I am getting closer everyday.
The reason I wanted to change my name is because my family may stumble across this site one-day, and I want my "pain-issues" to be my business.....Oh and yours of course. lol It is none of their business anyway. They just want my problems to disappear and not interfere w/ their little lives. They think that my wounds have healed(in their minds).......so move on. I did that for 8 years.
Spook, I know exactly who's running the show. Do you really???
Look for my email.
Annie hoo!
Brain fried that is. J>J>ing.....I am in pain, have been, and always will be......so it seems. My brain tunes most of it out. Then I get to the breaking point. I am salvaging the little meds I have left. I have degenerative arthritis and bone spurs. It will get worse.....I am just beginning to tread a path toward lifetime treatment/options. I am getting closer everyday.
The reason I wanted to change my name is because my family may stumble across this site one-day, and I want my "pain-issues" to be my business.....Oh and yours of course. lol It is none of their business anyway. They just want my problems to disappear and not interfere w/ their little lives. They think that my wounds have healed(in their minds).......so move on. I did that for 8 years.
Spook, I know exactly who's running the show. Do you really???
Look for my email.
Annie hoo!
you still didn't tell us what that former handle was. And I love the berserk reference -- it was great fun! You should try it sometime. I wish you could understand that I merely enjoy, as spook called it, a good "slog out." I really meant nothing personally hurtful to you at all. But if you feel the need to depart, I can't stop you. But it was fun while it lasted. Come back any time.
Leave for a weekend and you guys can certainly get yourself worked up over something. I changed my handle when the system changed here. I could no longer use my Christian name because it was "in use". I, like others, had to come up with a new handle so I could post at all. Nothing less, nothing more. The trivial conversations me and Pat/Tom/Thomas had before were just that, trivial. I didn't get war secrets from tom nor was it anything that any one of you couldn't read for yourself on this board. If it was "personal" then it shouldn't have been posted to the board. I never conversed with tom via e-mail. When the system here at medhelp changed and log-ins changed, so did many people's handles. Tough **** if you don't know my "old name". Believe me tom, you wouldn't say "Oh, I know who Jimenez was NOW." You wouldn't. It was nothing then and it's nothing now. The "conspiracy theory" attitude abounds here. I don't care what you "demand" tom, I owe you nothing. And the way you've treated and talked to me in recent memory, you're in no position to ask me anything. I tell you what, you and everyone else can go back to what it is you were doing before I interrupted you. Put your venom back in the closet tom. You're really barking up the wrong tree. You can all pat yourselves on the back for fighting the "good fight" here lately. Arguing all day is not in my best interest, and neither is talking/reading about drug use. So, you can all rest easy. Jimenez (the only name I've used since the "change" - I can't believe I'm spending time defending myself over this) will leave you to whatever it is you do. Again, another round of applause. I find it troubling that any of you would think that I would "hide" and/or deceive you over anything. For what? What could I possibly gain? I have a spouse, a full-time+ job, a child and personal issues that occupy much of my time. This reminds me of the Twilight Zone episode where there was a "flash" in the sky. All the neighbors start wondering who/what it was. The local kid has a comic book about space creatures landing that is eerily coincidental with the occurences of that day. Well, who else do all the "neighbors" start to suspect? The strange "new" neighbor, who nobody really knows. Pretty soon, suspicions become irrational thought - it's group think, mob mentality and they kill the poor guy. He never was an alien though. Just another neighbor.
So, all I did was try to correct what I thought was incorrect information regarding law enforcement. I tried to tell hedhurtz to give her husband the benefit of the doubt. I also tried to inspire people to stop dwelling on drugs (if they were) and go outside for a bit. Well, SUE ME! tom got hung up on some of the comments that I made regarding him. Since then he has gone berserk. I apologize to you tom. I really do. The last thing you need right now while you're trying to get clean is this. Please let it go. Not for me, but for yourself. Really man. It is/was NOTHING. Anyway, for those who still might not understand - I had 2 names here. Just 2. One prior to the system change and one after. I didn't misrepresent myself in any way. In fact, I was absent from the board for a long time. Several months in fact. So when I "came back" there really wasn't any personal history that made my nickname here essential. So, rest easy people. I think it's a pretty clear consensus that I'm causing more harm here than good. I can deal with that, and I am big enough to bow out. Again, no harm was intended. I'm sorry if people got "heated". Take care all, even you tom:) God bless and may we all be comfortable in our own skin.
So, all I did was try to correct what I thought was incorrect information regarding law enforcement. I tried to tell hedhurtz to give her husband the benefit of the doubt. I also tried to inspire people to stop dwelling on drugs (if they were) and go outside for a bit. Well, SUE ME! tom got hung up on some of the comments that I made regarding him. Since then he has gone berserk. I apologize to you tom. I really do. The last thing you need right now while you're trying to get clean is this. Please let it go. Not for me, but for yourself. Really man. It is/was NOTHING. Anyway, for those who still might not understand - I had 2 names here. Just 2. One prior to the system change and one after. I didn't misrepresent myself in any way. In fact, I was absent from the board for a long time. Several months in fact. So when I "came back" there really wasn't any personal history that made my nickname here essential. So, rest easy people. I think it's a pretty clear consensus that I'm causing more harm here than good. I can deal with that, and I am big enough to bow out. Again, no harm was intended. I'm sorry if people got "heated". Take care all, even you tom:) God bless and may we all be comfortable in our own skin.
It is nice to hear from you again,first thing I noticed is that you are not in appreciable pain,that is good.
My only regret is I did not use my real name Luke .G. Edward of Western Australia,because I am proud of my honesty,even when I am dishonest(sleeze drugs out of Doctors,etc?),But I have only one superior to answer to and they and me are the same person.I believe in total honesty.If you want I will issue a directive to some level 2 clearance agents to do a Broad base data scan,but I am sure it will come up negative,this site is for Addiction,not a drug retail centre,besides,everything is known,a lot of people get busted because they deserve it,and fair enough,I am a free Agent.Annie relax,keep your name,welcome to the free world,did you know that even China and its Communism(a resonable system run by people with dignity and respect) will submit to the Democra`z`y of the Western World,but not without a battle,Iran is going to be its right hand,or so it is said.Whatever.
We have achieved things here on this forum,nobody is looking at you ,it is what you say that interests `some` people,like soon Oxycodone will be gone,that is a good thing.
Who is the boss Annie who is running the show,if only you knew.
My only regret is I did not use my real name Luke .G. Edward of Western Australia,because I am proud of my honesty,even when I am dishonest(sleeze drugs out of Doctors,etc?),But I have only one superior to answer to and they and me are the same person.I believe in total honesty.If you want I will issue a directive to some level 2 clearance agents to do a Broad base data scan,but I am sure it will come up negative,this site is for Addiction,not a drug retail centre,besides,everything is known,a lot of people get busted because they deserve it,and fair enough,I am a free Agent.Annie relax,keep your name,welcome to the free world,did you know that even China and its Communism(a resonable system run by people with dignity and respect) will submit to the Democra`z`y of the Western World,but not without a battle,Iran is going to be its right hand,or so it is said.Whatever.
We have achieved things here on this forum,nobody is looking at you ,it is what you say that interests `some` people,like soon Oxycodone will be gone,that is a good thing.
Who is the boss Annie who is running the show,if only you knew.
Man, I've only been gone for a few days. What's up w/ the name ordeal?? I skimmed through the post rather quickly......Let me see, (is this right??) Jiminez has been posting here under different names??? Maybe he ISSS a dea agent??? Maybe we are under investigation>>>LOL Anyway..I was considering changing my screen name, because I have shared private matters w/ you all(my friends) that I don't want my family to know. I am a private person, and feel comfortable sharing certain things w/ you all that I don't want to share w/ family. I am going to change my screen name, because Annie is part of my real name. I haven't done it yet, because I can not come up w/ a name. Spook, maybe you could go on an lsd trip and come up w/ one.......LMAO
Anyway, for what it's worth...I spent the weekend out of town, and missed you guys terribly. Now, I'v got it bad.
Cindi, In regards to you above post about Brighty.....I even told her once, that her crown of righteousness awaits her in heaven. She is truly a bright and shining angel. LOL You are a nightingale, yourself. I hear the violins playing now. lol
BOO HOO. I look forward to hearing from you.
Thomas....I will go back re-read the post about how to change my name here. I hope...JB, DEE, Spook, Pelle, hed, hope, jim, (man am I leaving anyone out??) uh....Pixie, The Chads, ..etc. etc are reading this...so they will know why I am changing my screen name.
Love Yall!!
Annie
Anyway, for what it's worth...I spent the weekend out of town, and missed you guys terribly. Now, I'v got it bad.
Cindi, In regards to you above post about Brighty.....I even told her once, that her crown of righteousness awaits her in heaven. She is truly a bright and shining angel. LOL You are a nightingale, yourself. I hear the violins playing now. lol
BOO HOO. I look forward to hearing from you.
Thomas....I will go back re-read the post about how to change my name here. I hope...JB, DEE, Spook, Pelle, hed, hope, jim, (man am I leaving anyone out??) uh....Pixie, The Chads, ..etc. etc are reading this...so they will know why I am changing my screen name.
Love Yall!!
Annie
Could somebody please tell me who I am? Really!,what is in a name,who needs to hide behind a label in shame?,or do they just play a mischievous game?.
If either are telling the truth,then you would know that you are both lying,not to each other but to yourselves,struth!.
One may as well have 2 handles and post a question and then answer it themselves(ask no questions need no answers).Then why bother posting?,I think these battles are positive,insults our weaponry.The only thing you can destroy is an ego,and I think we are all a bit to adult to play that game and lose.
Point is their is no question just emotions,and a splash of intellect for good measure,a perfect world would be boring.
Nirvana is death of the stuggle over self,over desire,"give me a battle or let me perish".
You only have to believe in yourself.
I like both of you,but so what?,You probably both hate me now?
Now somebody please insult me,I am really asking for it.
Or is Bookitty correct that I play mind games?
I have suffered horrifically in my life but I never asked for anybody`s help,what a complete failure I am as a Human.
Maybe I will turn myself into a heroin addict again just for the challenge of curing myself.
look I may as well be talking to myself in fact I am.
What if we set up a forum for people addicted to forums,sounds a bit like our heroin trials for heroin addicts.
Their is no answer to life just questions,keep living,keep asking.
If either are telling the truth,then you would know that you are both lying,not to each other but to yourselves,struth!.
One may as well have 2 handles and post a question and then answer it themselves(ask no questions need no answers).Then why bother posting?,I think these battles are positive,insults our weaponry.The only thing you can destroy is an ego,and I think we are all a bit to adult to play that game and lose.
Point is their is no question just emotions,and a splash of intellect for good measure,a perfect world would be boring.
Nirvana is death of the stuggle over self,over desire,"give me a battle or let me perish".
You only have to believe in yourself.
I like both of you,but so what?,You probably both hate me now?
Now somebody please insult me,I am really asking for it.
Or is Bookitty correct that I play mind games?
I have suffered horrifically in my life but I never asked for anybody`s help,what a complete failure I am as a Human.
Maybe I will turn myself into a heroin addict again just for the challenge of curing myself.
look I may as well be talking to myself in fact I am.
What if we set up a forum for people addicted to forums,sounds a bit like our heroin trials for heroin addicts.
Their is no answer to life just questions,keep living,keep asking.
"you still didn't tell us what that former handle was."
Who said I was going to?"
It's not a who, it's a what: common courtesy.
Who said I was going to?"
It's not a who, it's a what: common courtesy.
"If I bug you, don't read my posts. But don't come back at me with nothing."
Sorry pal, I'll come back at you any time I feel like you've got it coming. If you don't like it, why not try hiding behind another identity? That should keep you safe for about a day before the same sanctimonious drivel shows up in your posts.
If you really were talking to me under another name, what was it? And what was it that made you switch? Too personal? Getting too close to whom you really are? Say something you didn't know how to take back? Or are you just an egotist who thinks other people exist for his own sadistic amusement?
I just asked you what your former handle was. I've changed my mind. I DEMAND TO KNOW WHAT YOUR HANDLE WAS. The fact that you would do it in the first place says it all about you, Jimenez, or ernie, or fred -- or maybe it's Gretchen now? By doing it you've invaded my privacy (and countless others) and by all that is right you should come clean about it. Let's call it a test of your integrity
Sorry pal, I'll come back at you any time I feel like you've got it coming. If you don't like it, why not try hiding behind another identity? That should keep you safe for about a day before the same sanctimonious drivel shows up in your posts.
If you really were talking to me under another name, what was it? And what was it that made you switch? Too personal? Getting too close to whom you really are? Say something you didn't know how to take back? Or are you just an egotist who thinks other people exist for his own sadistic amusement?
I just asked you what your former handle was. I've changed my mind. I DEMAND TO KNOW WHAT YOUR HANDLE WAS. The fact that you would do it in the first place says it all about you, Jimenez, or ernie, or fred -- or maybe it's Gretchen now? By doing it you've invaded my privacy (and countless others) and by all that is right you should come clean about it. Let's call it a test of your integrity
Good news! To save you all the effort, I've condensed my posts to you below. So, Jimenez, or whomever you really are or will claim to be tomorrow or the next day, have the balls to read this and answer it. Don't hide behind that "I'm not going to bother" ****. That alone speaks volumes about you. If you think I'm wrong, than be a man (if that's what you are) and fire back. Safe behind your multiple identities, what have you got to be afraid of?
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Does it really matter whom you or I think I'm talking to? Drug addiction is the great leveler. What goes for me, whether you like it or not, goes for you as well. Your criticisms of people who come to this forum for solace, companionship and understanding and just happen to spend a lot of time here shows a lack of understanding of human needs. Not everyone can find what they need "frolicking out on the lawn" or whatever it was you want us to do. For many, life on-line turns out to be far more meaningful and practical than most alternatives. Why don't you play where you want to play and let us spend our time as we see fit? Try that, why don't you?
What a thoughtful, meaningful and eloquent post, cindi! You said it far better than I could or did. I admit I wrote mine out of indignation for Jimenez' self-absorbed, insensitive commentary which was really a poorly disguised condemnation of all of us who come here for our various reasons. Jimenez' reason for coming here seems to be to pass judgment on the rest of us. I'd be fine with that if he'd only identify his apparently exalted position in society that gives him the license to indiscriminately condemn people he can't possibly claim to know. In condemning us, Jimenez condemns himself. And, yes, Jimenez, I'm talking to YOU.
Cindi, many's the time when my drug addiction and all the pain that goes with it kept me up all night, night after night. This forum was the only place, as you say, that I could come and know I'd find someone to talk to who would understand. And if I could reciprocate by helping them get through the same night, it meant I didn't waste my evening, as Jimenez would have us believe.
There's nothing wrong in holding the opinions Jimenez does. His mistake is in expecting the rest of us to hold them, too. Perhaps, in a way, Jimenez is helping to prove his central point by his own example. Notice how long his posts are - the ones condemning us all for spending too much time on the forum. Perhaps he's right - at least where he's concerned.
You're an excellent writer, cindi. Were you serious about writing that book? I've been a professional writer for the better part of twenty years and I know a good writer when I "see" one. I hope you are serious about writing it. The world can always use another good author with something to say. I'm looking forward to reading more of your posts, whether they agree with mine or not!
Peace
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Does it really matter whom you or I think I'm talking to? Drug addiction is the great leveler. What goes for me, whether you like it or not, goes for you as well. Your criticisms of people who come to this forum for solace, companionship and understanding and just happen to spend a lot of time here shows a lack of understanding of human needs. Not everyone can find what they need "frolicking out on the lawn" or whatever it was you want us to do. For many, life on-line turns out to be far more meaningful and practical than most alternatives. Why don't you play where you want to play and let us spend our time as we see fit? Try that, why don't you?
What a thoughtful, meaningful and eloquent post, cindi! You said it far better than I could or did. I admit I wrote mine out of indignation for Jimenez' self-absorbed, insensitive commentary which was really a poorly disguised condemnation of all of us who come here for our various reasons. Jimenez' reason for coming here seems to be to pass judgment on the rest of us. I'd be fine with that if he'd only identify his apparently exalted position in society that gives him the license to indiscriminately condemn people he can't possibly claim to know. In condemning us, Jimenez condemns himself. And, yes, Jimenez, I'm talking to YOU.
Cindi, many's the time when my drug addiction and all the pain that goes with it kept me up all night, night after night. This forum was the only place, as you say, that I could come and know I'd find someone to talk to who would understand. And if I could reciprocate by helping them get through the same night, it meant I didn't waste my evening, as Jimenez would have us believe.
There's nothing wrong in holding the opinions Jimenez does. His mistake is in expecting the rest of us to hold them, too. Perhaps, in a way, Jimenez is helping to prove his central point by his own example. Notice how long his posts are - the ones condemning us all for spending too much time on the forum. Perhaps he's right - at least where he's concerned.
You're an excellent writer, cindi. Were you serious about writing that book? I've been a professional writer for the better part of twenty years and I know a good writer when I "see" one. I hope you are serious about writing it. The world can always use another good author with something to say. I'm looking forward to reading more of your posts, whether they agree with mine or not!
Peace
/0\ THANK YOU FOR THE ANGEL COMMENT, I HAVE BEEN COMING TO THIS FORUM FOR A FEW MONTHS NOW AND I JUST HAVE TO COMMENT ON YOUR POSTS, YOU MY DEAR BRIGHTY HAVE DEFINATELY EARNED YOUR SPOT IN HEAVEN...THE COMPASSIONATE AND CARING ACTS OF HUMAN KINDNESS THAT YOU DISPLAY THROUGHOUT THIS BOARD ARE INCOMPARABLE...YOU POST WITH SUCH GRACE AND DIGNITY EVEN WHEN YOU GET UPSET ABOUT SOMETHING YOU STILL REMAIN TACTFUL...THE WORLD CAN USE A WHOLE LOT MORE BRIGHTYS.....LOVE CINDI
What a coincidence! I've been conversing with you under a different handle too! It's a small world. It's a petty you only read my short post about the DEA clods. My other posts to you were directed at you and your tunnel-visioned, self-righteous condemnations of any and all that caught your eye. But don't exert yourself. Save your strength for your next self-serving post.
Ahem....She's tired? I don't know about her but just from reading this thread I have learned alot, I have said it once, and I'll say it again...forgive me if I sound repetitive,I have learned that we may all have different opinions about the same subject but there is no right or wrong...just because we disagree with each other does not mean we have to dislike one another, can you imagine what the world would be like if we were all in total agreement all the time? If we keep our mouths shut and eyes and heart open the possibilities are endless...however, I think the biggest lesson I learned from this thread is that we as addicts, recovering, active or in Brighty's case those who love an addict in their life are some of the most caring, compassionate people ever, as well as being pretty damn intelligent....as evidenced by all of the responses, opinions and advice offered to hedhertz. Regardless of whether or not she absorbed any of this or really even cared to try and listen to what we were saying, No one can say that we didn't try...that we didn't care, or that we as human beings were not concerned for her and her baby's welfare but as I said before, if we want the headache to go away, we eventually will stop. banging our heads up against the wall. No, we, (at least most of us) are not experts in this field but I think our own life experiences speak for itself, there is none wiser than one who has been there...May God be with her and her family...And thank you all (you guys know who you are) for being part of my family.....Love to all Cindi
This will be my last post. I am tired. I don't understand what you are all talking aabout. Goodbye. ps; I'm glad you all have a good converstion going! I love you all. byebye
Of course I know YOU got it :-)) The post was really for those to whom it applies :-))) You are the angel's kiss to everything else going on in this place !!!
Love, Brighty
Love, Brighty
I do know what you were saying, about the identities. If I had a brain in my head I would have used a different name other than Cindi, I get pretty bored with it after 40 years....Wow, I just read my post, did you see all the mis spelled words, you'd think I was on drugs or something, how did you even know what the hell I was typing..LOL Is it just me and you on this board on a Saturday? It was so nice here too and I wasted it sleeping, trying to kick this damn pneumonia, first time the weather was over 75 and I blew it...and I know it is raining where you are... anyway, I just wanted to let you know that i understand your point and I do agree wholeheartedly, love cindi
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