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I need help with opiate withdrawal
ok heres my story. I have suffered from serious back pain caused by spinal stenosis for about 8 years. for the last 2 years, i have been taking percocet in the strength of 5/325. I usually take 4-5 over the course of a 20 hour day. my Dr. writes me a rx for 120 every month. I am at the point where i want to stop relying on painkillers, and the anxiety that comes with " what do i do if i run out early?".... does anyone know of any over the counter, or natural meds that will help with the withdrawal symptoms?? mainly its the physical aches and pains that im concerned with...stuff like aleve, and other otc pain meds never did anything for me really..and im going to be hurting enough when im off these just with the back pain alone...so any advice would be appreciate beyond comprehension...thank you.
Can anyone help me as I need s bit info I am on the nasty brown and not had any since yesterday I have some Valium/diazepam will thay help opium withdrawal plz
i recently went cold turkey from fentenyl sorry about the spelling . i had bought 3 subs and inducted 19 hours in and went into acute percipitated withdrwals and let me tell you when i say it was worse than the worse hell you can imagine i am not joking!!!! so i waited another 24 hrs before taking another 4 mg sub i honestly do not know how i survived it so as soon as i ran out of subs i started using again omg what is wrong with me and how can i get off and stay off this crap?
The sweats and chills are always the worst for me and make me end up taking a oxy just to stop it. but I just went to the doc and got prescribed Ativan and it seems to be helping tremendously.. but deff try the Thomas recipe as well. Good Luck to you because this journey will be extremely hard for years. the physical withdrawal ***** but the mental is what will always be there/
These posts are extremely old. Please post under post a question & you will get lots of response & help. I'm 15 days off methadone, hydrocodone, Valium, resteril, & zanaflex. This site has saved my life.
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I started on OXY because of out of control anxiety to where i could not get off the couch - it enabled me to function fairly well and sometimes better than ever but now after 4 years of progressive dosing I am in trouble - I need more than I can get and am desparate. i already take 3 - 4 mg of Klonopin a day so no relief there. I take 2 x 20 mg oxy and 3 - 4 five mg percocets a day making 55 mostly per day - how the hell can I quit ? i am afraid to tell my dr for fear he will cut me off and I don't know if I can function without the meds. WHAT DO I DO ???? I have had 4 nervous breakdowns (in my life) and was addicted to alcohol 30 years ago - which I quit and it was living hell - most of my life has been miserable and depressed but in the 90's i toook no meds at all - can i get back to that ? I am 50 now
Hey eveyone , i dont know how to thank eveyone for the ideas , and how to make people feel better that got sucked in to this **** , i was on oxy for awhile maybe a year and half now , back problems , i took wayy too much that i knew one day im ganna die from it for sure , so i took a step back and said to myself i can stop get back there and doo it , i have to stop i cant be like this for the rest of my life , hell no , we used to work hard and not depend on anything , anyway im not ganna bother u with this anymore and im ganna tell u about what i did and how i think i found a way to beat this thing really easy , anyway i have to warn u, u might not like some of the things but believe it damn helps alot ,
This way is not going cold turkey , plz bare with me it might take some time but it helps alot , i started 3 days ago and i feel sooo good u have no idea , i used to take allmost 4 to 6 of the oxy 80mg everyday , by day 3 the chills are allmost gone , body iches , allmost gone , so i really hope this is ganna help alot of people ,
1. make sure u have few days off from work or whatever u do ,
2. Make sure there is some1 there to help u all the way throw it and beleive me seeing some1 there it ill help alot ,
3. Make sure u have very few Tecs no more than 15 of them ,
4. Make sure u have some weed , yes u heard me right weed . Its the gateway drug and to get of others u would need to go to the gate,
5. Make sure dont have anyway for u to buy anymore pills whats soo ever, so u have to make sure u have no cash for anything ,
6, make sure u have soup like enough for atleast 4 to 6 days ,
Now do this the 1st day , make sure u take no more than 6 tecs make sure not to take more lets say try evey few hours take 2 no more , u can take them halfs or whatever u want,
U need to make sure if u were taking less than i did , then u have to cut eveything down alot more than what u used to take ,
Smoke some weed it helps u alot with the chills , the pains , a little bit with sleeping , it helps alot with all the w/d ,
If u can eat go ahead have soup ,u can take b12 allso no more than 2 for the 1st day ,
Day 2 , u might not had alot of sleep but u are in for a treat now ur body is hurt and its okay in day 2 u ganna have to take wayyy less tecs 5mg for day 2 make sure u take no more 3 the whole day , now when u smoke weed its ganna play with ur mind and let u forget about the pills , u just ganna be in diffrent world , thinking u have a bad flu thats all , im not ganna lie its ganna be abit hard but it works trust me it works .
Now make sure take atleast take one b12 , and make sure that u eat atleast 2 times if u can 3 and only soup , and lotsss of water , u ganna go to the washroom alot but its okay ,
Now by day 2 with what i told u to do u ganna be tired and wanna sleep thats good treat u earned it ;) u ganna be sleepy abit so sleep as much as u can and eat .
Day 3 im not having any craving anymore its 5.30 pm now , and i only took half a tec so far , i dont have that much of chills , i feel abit better , more awake , im eatting alot moree which is good, with b12 its even better, so i really dont know what to tell u , coz i feel better and i never felt this good about my self , im telling u eveything i did it helps alot , anyway i hope eveyone gets better and it does get better , love for u all ,
This way is not going cold turkey , plz bare with me it might take some time but it helps alot , i started 3 days ago and i feel sooo good u have no idea , i used to take allmost 4 to 6 of the oxy 80mg everyday , by day 3 the chills are allmost gone , body iches , allmost gone , so i really hope this is ganna help alot of people ,
1. make sure u have few days off from work or whatever u do ,
2. Make sure there is some1 there to help u all the way throw it and beleive me seeing some1 there it ill help alot ,
3. Make sure u have very few Tecs no more than 15 of them ,
4. Make sure u have some weed , yes u heard me right weed . Its the gateway drug and to get of others u would need to go to the gate,
5. Make sure dont have anyway for u to buy anymore pills whats soo ever, so u have to make sure u have no cash for anything ,
6, make sure u have soup like enough for atleast 4 to 6 days ,
Now do this the 1st day , make sure u take no more than 6 tecs make sure not to take more lets say try evey few hours take 2 no more , u can take them halfs or whatever u want,
U need to make sure if u were taking less than i did , then u have to cut eveything down alot more than what u used to take ,
Smoke some weed it helps u alot with the chills , the pains , a little bit with sleeping , it helps alot with all the w/d ,
If u can eat go ahead have soup ,u can take b12 allso no more than 2 for the 1st day ,
Day 2 , u might not had alot of sleep but u are in for a treat now ur body is hurt and its okay in day 2 u ganna have to take wayyy less tecs 5mg for day 2 make sure u take no more 3 the whole day , now when u smoke weed its ganna play with ur mind and let u forget about the pills , u just ganna be in diffrent world , thinking u have a bad flu thats all , im not ganna lie its ganna be abit hard but it works trust me it works .
Now make sure take atleast take one b12 , and make sure that u eat atleast 2 times if u can 3 and only soup , and lotsss of water , u ganna go to the washroom alot but its okay ,
Now by day 2 with what i told u to do u ganna be tired and wanna sleep thats good treat u earned it ;) u ganna be sleepy abit so sleep as much as u can and eat .
Day 3 im not having any craving anymore its 5.30 pm now , and i only took half a tec so far , i dont have that much of chills , i feel abit better , more awake , im eatting alot moree which is good, with b12 its even better, so i really dont know what to tell u , coz i feel better and i never felt this good about my self , im telling u eveything i did it helps alot , anyway i hope eveyone gets better and it does get better , love for u all ,
Been on OxyContin or kadian for thirty years started percodan in 1982 from underground coal mine injury , over 30 broken bones low back injury and broken neck , I'm still in pain but these drugs are taking there toll , I want to quite any ideas ??
Been on OxyContin or kadian for thirty years started percodan in 1982 from underground coal mine injury , over 30 broken bones low back injury and broken neck , I'm still in pain but these drugs are taking there toll , I want to quite any ideas ??
I've been trying to convince myself to get off of Roxy for about a month. I know this is terrible. But i'll make it to day 3 and then I can't take it anymore and use again. I tried the cold turkey and the thomas recipe; however, I don't have access to valium or xanex. The restless leg syndrome is killing me. I don't think I can get my hands and feet to stop aching. I've tried everything, but I can't sleep. I just need help to quit this! I've never told anyone about my addiction, I'm completely humiliated by it. I've been taking hot showers, taking vitamins, forcing myself to walk my dogs and clean my house, eating healthy, and i've been using a pain relieving cream with menthol to try and ease my aches in my hands and legs. But this is truly the hardest thing I've ever done in my life. I just need help I guess and don't know what to do :(. I don't want this to define my life anymore. I miss the girl I used to be, and able to be happy without using.
ive been talking 180 percs a month and just quit cold turkey im at day seven ive been taking these for 4 years i still feel like s$it and yesterday the most vile stuff starting coming out of me not as bad today but still feel like crap got some sleeping pils to get threw the nites my legs are so sore but i am going strong i dont like these pills im taking extra strength tylenol for head ach hope this gets better soon
Hey, I have never ever written on anything like this before but I feel like I HAVE to inform people about what my doctor gave me for my withdrawal symptoms. I know all about them and how awful they are. I have been using a variety of opiates for maybe 6 or 7 years. I started with Oxys moved to Vics and whatever I could get my hands on. Then I tried suboxone to get me off all of it and I figured out it was just another addiction. For people who truly suffer from addiction suboxone is really not the answer! Get your hands on pursor protocol!!!! It's not a drug and its not habit forming. It's amazing I haven't had a suboxone in over 5 days and I feel fine!!!! I am not sure what it really is because it is so new, but I am telling you it works. I have been through withdrawals too many times to count and this works. It has something to do with seratonin and dopamine. I know how awful it is to go through withdrawals. If you can't get this because its new clonazepam has been the only thing that ever helped and peptobismal for my tummy... So my heart really goes out to you all suffering from this. Stay strong and make sure you have tons of support it really does help. I help I could be of some help and good luck!!!
I am very proud of everyone who has kicked their drug habit. I am turning 29 in one week and I started taking opiates at 18 years old because of surgeries and I loved it. I didn't understand addiction, so I would seek out the drug. 5 years later, still on opiates, I had my first methadone pill off the street and I LOVED it! After a few months of taking methadone from the street, I went to the methadone clinic. Was there for 6 years and then, about 4 weeks ago, my living situation changed and I could no longer go to the clinic. I had great support from my family and made a few trips to the ER. I tried to get into an inpatient rehab and believe it or not, nobody would take me because I was on such a high dose of methadone when I stopped taking it. Even though I was 7 days off of it when I tried to get placed. Now I have resorted to sneaking and getting lortabs and benzos from a friend that gives them to me for free. I am VERY disappointed in myself. Im very depressed and anxious and I still experience withdrawals. Its a downward spiral from here. I am currently staying with my mom, and she has really tired herself out being there for me while going through this, spending hours in the ER with me, making sure that I am comfortable at all times. I want to try to get placed in a detox facility again, but my mom is like, "Well, you can do this at home, you seem fine and you have been off methadone for 17 days now." Well, I haven't been honest with her about my still using lortabs and xanax. With all the help she has provided me and the support I know this will disappoint her and that hurts me more than anything. But I am going to talk to her either today or tomorrow and I know that she will be understanding and recommend that I try inpatient. I just dont want to hurt her. I pray that I can kick this habit. I pray for everyone of you that are going through this or have went through this. Our loved ones know and see how bad it is and it takes a toll on them, but they don't truly know how you are feeling. So, everyone please pray for me, as I will for ya'll and if anyone has any advice or just something to say to me, I would greatly appreciate it. Good luck to all!!
I have been on oxy 30s for 5 years. About $100 habit a day. Life has spiraled out everyone in my family asks my wife what's wrong with me and why I look sooo sick. I have the most amazing wife but cannot tell her about my dependence. 5 days ago I decided I'm not going to blow my paycheck.
I have never had a rx or any pain which needed the drug just had a "friend" offer me some while fishing.
To make the story short. I took 2 suboxone in 3 days and decided to quit everything. IT HAS BEEN TOUGH but I HAVE TO QUIT. My legs are killing me havnt slept for more then two hours at a time and the bathroom is my home can't tell you how much and how often I need to run coused of the *****.
The best time is when I'm at work the time passes much easier but everytime I take a break my mind thinks of the pain. Hot showers help a lot walking and activities to take your mind of the pain is also amazing. I keep telling myself no matter what I'm going to make it through today and relapse is not an option. It's been a rough day can't wait for work tomorrow just not happy that I have the following 4 days off.
Last night I got out of bed three times and took a walk so my legs get some work and hopefully the pain will end. Day three is far better then day one but I'm excited about feeling 5% better tomm. May God make it easy for us.
Omar
I have never had a rx or any pain which needed the drug just had a "friend" offer me some while fishing.
To make the story short. I took 2 suboxone in 3 days and decided to quit everything. IT HAS BEEN TOUGH but I HAVE TO QUIT. My legs are killing me havnt slept for more then two hours at a time and the bathroom is my home can't tell you how much and how often I need to run coused of the *****.
The best time is when I'm at work the time passes much easier but everytime I take a break my mind thinks of the pain. Hot showers help a lot walking and activities to take your mind of the pain is also amazing. I keep telling myself no matter what I'm going to make it through today and relapse is not an option. It's been a rough day can't wait for work tomorrow just not happy that I have the following 4 days off.
Last night I got out of bed three times and took a walk so my legs get some work and hopefully the pain will end. Day three is far better then day one but I'm excited about feeling 5% better tomm. May God make it easy for us.
Omar
Im almost on day 3 using lyrica my gf and i are having NO withdrawl symptoms we are amazed we tried to quit so many times but failed this lryica is the only thing that ever worked for us we are not even thinking about pills anymore
I have been taking at 6 to 10 10/500mg of loratabs a day for the last 4 years. I just now took my last two and I'm determined to quit but I dread going through the withdrawals but I no I have to for my children.i have prescribed lorazepam for anxiety is it true it can help with WD? I'm desperate and really need the help ASAP thank you to anyone who responds
Hi and welcome... You have come to the right place. This community is full of knowledge and compassionate people here to help. Many many of us have experienced what you are going through. I encourage you to post a new question as this is topic is very old. Go to the top of the page and hit "post a question" and just copy and paste this is. You will get many helpful responses..
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Hi,
I have been addicted to pain killers for the best part of 5 years now. What started out as a few every other day for pain has turned into 10/15 at a time 3 times a day! I have tried to go cold turkey several times, but I cant take the pain and aches that goes with it and I cant talk to anyone i.e doctor, for fear of her taking me off my tabs. I know I am addicted, and I know I need to get clean before this kills me, but I just cant do it. I am currently off work sick with a few chronic issues (the reasons I started the co codamol in the first place) but as the years have went on, my pain has gotten worse and 2 painkillers just did not cut it. I am also spending a few hundred pounds/dollars a month on over the counter painkillers (not as strongs as my prescribed meds) but they do help. I went out the other day and bought the ingrediants for Thomas' receipe but I dont have any vallium and I cant get it anywhere, so dont want to try without that. I also have a young son and a partner (who knows I take a lot, but does not know the extent) I really want to tell someone and find out if there is a miracle drug that you can take for a day or two to get you clean? I really cant go cold turkey and I am afraid that one day I am going to rather die than go without my painkillers. Someone must know of a better way (I dont care what price it is) and I beg you to please share it with me and all the other people who find themselves addicted through no fault of their own. Please help me.
I have been addicted to pain killers for the best part of 5 years now. What started out as a few every other day for pain has turned into 10/15 at a time 3 times a day! I have tried to go cold turkey several times, but I cant take the pain and aches that goes with it and I cant talk to anyone i.e doctor, for fear of her taking me off my tabs. I know I am addicted, and I know I need to get clean before this kills me, but I just cant do it. I am currently off work sick with a few chronic issues (the reasons I started the co codamol in the first place) but as the years have went on, my pain has gotten worse and 2 painkillers just did not cut it. I am also spending a few hundred pounds/dollars a month on over the counter painkillers (not as strongs as my prescribed meds) but they do help. I went out the other day and bought the ingrediants for Thomas' receipe but I dont have any vallium and I cant get it anywhere, so dont want to try without that. I also have a young son and a partner (who knows I take a lot, but does not know the extent) I really want to tell someone and find out if there is a miracle drug that you can take for a day or two to get you clean? I really cant go cold turkey and I am afraid that one day I am going to rather die than go without my painkillers. Someone must know of a better way (I dont care what price it is) and I beg you to please share it with me and all the other people who find themselves addicted through no fault of their own. Please help me.
I know this has been up awhile, but I thought I'd share my detox story...
Back in Feb. 2010 I started taking percocets 5/235 3x a day for my chronic pain. I hadn't had anything stronger than Norco before this. Within a couple months time I had worked my way up to 8 of the percocet 10/325s a day, so my doc switched me to 60mg MSContin 2x a day with the occasional percocet for breakthrough. My transition to Morphine did not go well! Along with this, I was also taking Ativan and Klonopin for anxiety attacks. Also was taking Temazepam (Restoril) for sleep, and my doc switched my Cymbalta (Antidepressant) up to 120mg a day, which is twice the recommended max! After a week on the MS Contin, I ended up sleeping 18 hours a day and having breathing issues, so I ended up making the biggest mistake of my life and dumping every single med I had down the toilet!
The rest of that day was fine, and most of the next day was ok, but later that night I went downhill extremely rapidly. I spent over a week on a rampage, breaking almost everything in sight! Had the cops called on me twice (by my parents... I don't blame them, they had to), and 5150'd on 4 separate occasions, though 3 were lifted cause I had a "drug problem" and not a "mental problem." After about a week I started feeling a bit better, though still had the weird tingly feeling. I was still peeing green and had the runs badly!! And the pain was excruciating! Every day I was feeling better and better until I finally felt like normal after about a month to 6 weeks. It was extremely bad, but was expected to be, considering that I cold turkeyed off of a decent dose of opiates, benzos, and an antidepressant. Hell I even threw out my Gabapentin and my Simvastatin!
After about a year I eventually ended up back on Oxy, this time 20mg Oxycontin 2x daily. Since then I ended up on a 100mcg/hr Fentanyl patch and 10/325 Percocets for about 6 months. Over the past month I have worked my way off the Fentanyl and started on a low dose of MS Contin, 30mg 3x a day with percocets, and yesterday I just finished my last opiate this time around. It was two doses of MS IR 15mg over the whole day. Feeling a bit "detoxy" today, but not nearly as bad as I expected. I do use cannabis to help with the detox, so that can be an option if your job/family/lifestyle allows. It does help to push away the "crawling out of your skin" feeling, but luckily it has been a cakewalk thus far.
Good luck to anyone who decides to detox. It can be a very lengthy, painful, and just horrendous process. But it can be worth it. Just live life day-by-day and thy your very best to not unleash your rage on loved ones. Use the ones you hate for that.
Back in Feb. 2010 I started taking percocets 5/235 3x a day for my chronic pain. I hadn't had anything stronger than Norco before this. Within a couple months time I had worked my way up to 8 of the percocet 10/325s a day, so my doc switched me to 60mg MSContin 2x a day with the occasional percocet for breakthrough. My transition to Morphine did not go well! Along with this, I was also taking Ativan and Klonopin for anxiety attacks. Also was taking Temazepam (Restoril) for sleep, and my doc switched my Cymbalta (Antidepressant) up to 120mg a day, which is twice the recommended max! After a week on the MS Contin, I ended up sleeping 18 hours a day and having breathing issues, so I ended up making the biggest mistake of my life and dumping every single med I had down the toilet!
The rest of that day was fine, and most of the next day was ok, but later that night I went downhill extremely rapidly. I spent over a week on a rampage, breaking almost everything in sight! Had the cops called on me twice (by my parents... I don't blame them, they had to), and 5150'd on 4 separate occasions, though 3 were lifted cause I had a "drug problem" and not a "mental problem." After about a week I started feeling a bit better, though still had the weird tingly feeling. I was still peeing green and had the runs badly!! And the pain was excruciating! Every day I was feeling better and better until I finally felt like normal after about a month to 6 weeks. It was extremely bad, but was expected to be, considering that I cold turkeyed off of a decent dose of opiates, benzos, and an antidepressant. Hell I even threw out my Gabapentin and my Simvastatin!
After about a year I eventually ended up back on Oxy, this time 20mg Oxycontin 2x daily. Since then I ended up on a 100mcg/hr Fentanyl patch and 10/325 Percocets for about 6 months. Over the past month I have worked my way off the Fentanyl and started on a low dose of MS Contin, 30mg 3x a day with percocets, and yesterday I just finished my last opiate this time around. It was two doses of MS IR 15mg over the whole day. Feeling a bit "detoxy" today, but not nearly as bad as I expected. I do use cannabis to help with the detox, so that can be an option if your job/family/lifestyle allows. It does help to push away the "crawling out of your skin" feeling, but luckily it has been a cakewalk thus far.
Good luck to anyone who decides to detox. It can be a very lengthy, painful, and just horrendous process. But it can be worth it. Just live life day-by-day and thy your very best to not unleash your rage on loved ones. Use the ones you hate for that.
I know this has been on here awhile now..however I could sure use some advice right now I have been on opiates for approx 12 yrs..I have to stop they are killing me..I just dont feel like doing anything. I have wrote your recipe down and am starting today..only problem is I babysit Tuesday thru Sat. dont know how I am going to make it through. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
12nout
12nout
i don't know much about the thomas recipe - but i am sure that if you make a new post on the forum, other members will be around to help you with this. most of the time, when someone posts on a post from years ago, it gets overlooked. best of luck!
Please answer this,
Okay so I'm going to do the Thomas Recipe tomorrow (coming off opioids) but I don't quite understand something. When do I start taking the L-Tyrosine? Is it saying to take Valium (in my case, Ativan) right when you wake up in the morning, for FOUR days? If that's the case then what do we do about our aching bodies for those four days? When I say aching, I actually mean DYING. I'm very sure that Ibuprofen and Aleve will NOT take the excruciating lower back and neck pain away. Someone please help me out, thank you!
Sincerely,
Detoxing tomorrow
Okay so I'm going to do the Thomas Recipe tomorrow (coming off opioids) but I don't quite understand something. When do I start taking the L-Tyrosine? Is it saying to take Valium (in my case, Ativan) right when you wake up in the morning, for FOUR days? If that's the case then what do we do about our aching bodies for those four days? When I say aching, I actually mean DYING. I'm very sure that Ibuprofen and Aleve will NOT take the excruciating lower back and neck pain away. Someone please help me out, thank you!
Sincerely,
Detoxing tomorrow
If you've only been on for a couple of months, you should not experience serious withdrawl givent the amount you were taken. Honestly, you are moreso going to "miss" your euphoria that most of us long time 160mg a day or more users don't even get anymore. You will be fine by just taking a lot of vitamin c and B and eat banannas and some immodium IF you even get the diareah. You are one of the lucky ones b/c I am in a vicious cycle of denial, wanting to get off, not wanting to get off(the fear of letting it go).It's just HELL! Get off now and good luck!! :)
u great.....actually my gud friend have same kind of recipe and now he is almost fyn
Ps: if you are thinking about suboxone or subutex ...don't I would rather have 10 tab withdrawals than how I feel and when people ask about your clean time you will always feel like barry bonds or mark mcgwires homerun records like there is a big fat asterik "well I'm clean but technically"
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