IBKleen;Precipitated Withdrawels?

Question

IBKleen or anyone familiar with suboxone: I see you mentioned this in another post a minute ago. Is it possible that is what happened to me yesterday? Was I not in withdrawels enough to start taking the sub? Why did it take about 15 hours for me to get so sick? 
I have felt just OK today, minor headache and alittle spacy, but Mary was feeling very bad today, very nausous, headache, spacy and shakey. And both of us sporatically very tired.
Is it possible we're not taking enough Sub?  We've been taking 2 pills, total 4 mgs.  One pill in the am then another around noonish.   How much do most people take on average when they first start?  Should we be taking more sub? Spreading them out more thruout the day?  Should we be having any of these discomforts in the first few days or so? Is it normal?
I'd ask my doctor... but we believe she's a flake. And acts like she has no time to talk to us.
I know... I'm just full of questions, but we really want to get this right.
Any info and help would be appreciated!!!!
Thanks guys,
Magi
& Mary too

road2recovery · Answer

too funny, IBKLEEN is always there when you need, day or night, gotta love her

up with little one right now running high fever...YUK!!  
I have been through this with 3 kids hubby , now last one, i guess i am  next
Dang this flu got to quit, i am exhausted!!!!
god bless
r2r

allaboutmary · Answer

LOL   Too funny...... Hop and the energizer bunny.   Ya gotta love em though. 

Yes getting clean is the prize and we will win it.   Thank you.

GoingToMakeIt · Answer

Yeah the hop needs the energizer bunny to kick his putootie. 

Getting clean is the real prize.

allaboutmary · Answer

You all are just so great !   It's 3 in the morning an I'm taking my 8mg now and PMing IBK .   Just wanted to thank you all for your help and concern. 

Flakey Sub doctor..........$300
Perscription for Sub........$400
Drug screen test.............$40
All the love and support we get on this forum..................Priceless !

Except for that Hopsing ....he's a trouble maker ! lolololo   He really did start it.    
Love you all !  Mary

hopsing94 · Answer

Hope you two feel better tomorrow. Sorry to hear about mary. 

p.s. I just want to state for the record that mary and magi started all the funny business last night and they instigated the whole thing. I'm completely innocent. hehehehe

NautyOne · Answer

Sounds mighty suspicious to me. .

flmagi · Answer

Thanks again and will talk to you tommorrow. I'd better get to bed since Marys gonna be waking me extra early. And then I have to go to work from there. So Mary will contact you.  I think I'll sleep tonight, knowing we're in good hands now.
Good night all.
Magi

Jacqui805 · Answer

And it's definitely Suboxone SL and it's not Subutex right?  Suboxone and Suboxone SL are buprenorphine and naloxone as opposed to Subutex which is just buprenorphine.  Need to know.

IBKleen · Answer

Hopeful..thank you, but that is not the issue here.

IBKleen · Answer

OK lady..I will be here and wait for you both. I am so concerned for you. I want this to work for you and I am going to come down there and find your doctor/starving artist/..LOL

hopeful4us · Answer

I believe your dosage might be too high. I tried suboxone a few months back. My doctor told me to take 2 pills 2x a day. I was nervous so i took a quarter of a pill just to see how it would feel. i felt better so i took another quarter and got very sick, vomited, dizzy ,had to go to bed. I found i was great on  a quarter of a pill once every two days. Sounds crazy but its the truth. i relapsed and just quit cold turkey on Jan. 1. was much better that way. My experience just wasnt good with the suboxone and then you have to come off of that also. Good Luck to you both. Just wanted to share my experience in case it can be of help.

road2recovery · Answer

This is scary...i had a feeling you both started out on to low of a dosage....At first the stuff was funny , meaning the doc and all...BUT now this is not....Ya'll are going through w/d's....Let Ibkeen help,. and tommorrow will be a better day!!

flmagi · Answer

Its under the tongue Sub.

flmagi · Answer

Sorry to bother you again. Talked to Mary. She's got to drive a friend to the airport at 4 AM. So she won't have time in the am to go on the computer. But she will take the 8 mgs and I'm gonna go with her to the airport, just in case she explodes or something. lol  So, when she gets back she'll contact you and let you know how it's going.
Again, thank you.

Jacqui805 · Answer

Quick question, makes a difference, are you on Suboxone or Suboxone SL?  If you're not sure, just answer this:  Is it a tablet that you swallow?  Or is it a tablet that you put under your tongue?

GoingToMakeIt · Answer

IBKleen, you are such a help! It's a good feeling seeing you help others. :) Thank You.

IBKleen · Answer

Don't take anymore tonight.... let it get out of your system. It is going to be like starting all over again tomorrow. Start at 8, if it needs to be adjusted, then we can go from there. But DEFINATELY..you are not taking the correct dose.

flmagi · Answer

8 mgs????!!!!????   Really?  Oh my God. We're that far off. Oh my God.  I'm scared to take that much. (listen to me.(what an a s s).. but I'd take 120 mgs percs , no problem!)
Ok, I'll let Mary know, shes gone to bed already, feeling so sick. But I'm gonna call her anyway.
Thank you   thank you   thank you 
Tons of hugs headed your way.
Magi

Jacqui805 · Answer

I forgot you didn't start it.  I'm sorry, but glad you didn't.  I can't help you with this one, don't know anything about the other drugs. I could look it up, and get back to you at a later time though.  I'm sure you'll get lots of help here though, ah, I see you are starting to.  I'll check though too.

IBKleen · Answer

Oh, for God's sake..that's why. Your dose is not high enough. Tomorrow morning, not tonight, take 8 mgs in the am, wait a little while, see what happens. Then take another 4 mgs. See if 12 mgs is your comfort level. Anything under that for the first 4 days will probably make you sick. You can always increase, but 12 mgs just may do it. 4 mgs is a joke for the amount that you were taking. 

I know you guys are up early, well at least Mary is before she has to get you up..lol, so I am up with her...tell her to contact me. I will sit here with her while she takes the dose and see how it works. I have a feeling this will do the trick. 

THEN....find a new doctor. this quack should not be prescribing!!!!!!

flmagi · Answer

Absolute honesty...no problem...I don't lie, I just don't talk.lol
Mary & I about the same, Give or take a pill or two.   80 - 120 mgs. a day of vics or percs.

IBKleen · Answer

I am upset with your doctor also, this is ridiculous. Do me a favor, tell me honestly how much you both were taking before you went on the Sub. By the way, it is not precip withdrawals, something is wrong with your dose. Maybe I can help, although I wish your darn doctor would. OK, let me know and let's see if we can't work through this. I don;t want you guys to suffer like this..it should not be.