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Is recovery you main goal?
If your motive here is to gain information by all of us trying to share experiences to get to recovery your on your way to getting your life back...........
When I post I speak the truth of my 37 years of active addiction and two years of formal education in college in addiction studies and part of that is Cognitive thinking where distorted thinking is explained and how the brain is altered by the use of narcotics.........
I have also been involved in N/A for 20 months where about a year ago I started to get very involved in service work where I am the GSR at my homegroup......
I also do a lot so speaking at different open speaker groups and recently am not speaking at the Harbor House which is a inpatient both by volunteer patients as well as court ordered patients.....
I consider this an honor and I have learned by my mistakes someone that I admire very much during an IM this evening told me sometimes I am a little abrasive my response to that was when I am talking directly to the addict I try to get a rise out of them to make them think...and that I would never talk to the person like that ........she told me that she understands that because she knows me but others may not take it that way so I will take her advice and try to change.........
One thing I will never change is my blunt honesty from my experience...if that gets me into trouble with a few here I hope that we can keep communications open so that in time we can try to work things out and come to the same conclusion of Recovery........
I wish and hope that everyone here on the forum gets to a successful Recovery so that they can get there lives back............Thats what I am all about................
People who go to N/A meetings and sit in the back and do not try to get involved are the ones who leave then bash N/A they don't do the steps and probably think the steps are b u l l s h i t...........
There road to recovery will be a long road with many twists and turns the N/A and A/A book are proven methods to get to recovery and stay there and save the lives of millions of addicts for those to say its all b u l l s h i t I believe will struggle in the insanity of addiction until one day that light will go on in their heads that they have had enough and when they look around and there family has cast them out and the only friends they have are other addicts and they can't keep a job or pay their bills and the only and the most important thing to them is using I feel sorry for them........
To the rest here there are many good people who have a great message to convey to those who want to listen to you are truly inspiring to the rest of us and we thank you for being here.............
I'll take the blasts from some because my heart is in the right place and I always speak the truth!
When I post I speak the truth of my 37 years of active addiction and two years of formal education in college in addiction studies and part of that is Cognitive thinking where distorted thinking is explained and how the brain is altered by the use of narcotics.........
I have also been involved in N/A for 20 months where about a year ago I started to get very involved in service work where I am the GSR at my homegroup......
I also do a lot so speaking at different open speaker groups and recently am not speaking at the Harbor House which is a inpatient both by volunteer patients as well as court ordered patients.....
I consider this an honor and I have learned by my mistakes someone that I admire very much during an IM this evening told me sometimes I am a little abrasive my response to that was when I am talking directly to the addict I try to get a rise out of them to make them think...and that I would never talk to the person like that ........she told me that she understands that because she knows me but others may not take it that way so I will take her advice and try to change.........
One thing I will never change is my blunt honesty from my experience...if that gets me into trouble with a few here I hope that we can keep communications open so that in time we can try to work things out and come to the same conclusion of Recovery........
I wish and hope that everyone here on the forum gets to a successful Recovery so that they can get there lives back............Thats what I am all about................
People who go to N/A meetings and sit in the back and do not try to get involved are the ones who leave then bash N/A they don't do the steps and probably think the steps are b u l l s h i t...........
There road to recovery will be a long road with many twists and turns the N/A and A/A book are proven methods to get to recovery and stay there and save the lives of millions of addicts for those to say its all b u l l s h i t I believe will struggle in the insanity of addiction until one day that light will go on in their heads that they have had enough and when they look around and there family has cast them out and the only friends they have are other addicts and they can't keep a job or pay their bills and the only and the most important thing to them is using I feel sorry for them........
To the rest here there are many good people who have a great message to convey to those who want to listen to you are truly inspiring to the rest of us and we thank you for being here.............
I'll take the blasts from some because my heart is in the right place and I always speak the truth!
absolutely. Foster care in the country is absolutely horrible no matter what anyone will tell you. Most people who are willing to foster are only in it for the check that comes along with it. Yes theres are good foster parents (before you guys start freaking out on me), but they are few and far between. I am studying sociology and I continually witness and hear about children in foster care being subjected to anyone's worst nightmare for a child. I highly recommend you go through the process of getting them in your custody.
do not let them go to foster care...NO MATTER WHAT!!! they just might end up worse off then where they are now, and yes i am talking from experience...if you want to keep them out of foster care, she needs to surrender her children to you and the children have to stay (sleep) in 1 place...they cannot be moved from one place to another
Between all of the family we will try to keep them out of foster care. My sister, our oldest daughter & her husband, us........
Hi again;
If cps gets involved, will the children be placed in foster care or will you have the option to take them in with you and your husband?
By the way, sorry to hear of your husbands struggles as well. This definately is a very trying time for you. I pray everything works out.
With Love;
Tracy
If cps gets involved, will the children be placed in foster care or will you have the option to take them in with you and your husband?
By the way, sorry to hear of your husbands struggles as well. This definately is a very trying time for you. I pray everything works out.
With Love;
Tracy
I wish, I wish, I wish she would let us take the kids.
Thank you for all the support. This is very hard on my husband - her dad, as he has heart disease and I try to only let him know only what is absolutely necessary. We just found out this week he needs 2 more stents and his mitral valve fixing as it is leaking. The less stress for him the better.
She is trying so hard to stay afloat but will not let go of her husband or the kids. She will not let anyone know where they are staying. CPS will do nothing whithout an address. We have filed theft reports with the police for the dad as he took computer stuff from the house but it may not stick because none of us can accurately describe the dang moniter - it was *** moniter color, does anyone, without actually looking at their moniter know if it's light grey, dark grey or black??????? We do know it's a compaq but other than that.... The drama keeps unfolding as each day passes and I fear the children will be put in harms way. As soon as they have a warrant for her arrest or his, CPS can then become involved but this all takes time and it has been 2 weeks now already.
I peak in here just to help learn about addiction and what she is up against. I find all of you that post regularly very caring, helpful and hopeful to others. I admire you all for your individual strengths as you are each unique with your own experiences. I am learning how hard this is for you all as well.
Thank you for all the support. This is very hard on my husband - her dad, as he has heart disease and I try to only let him know only what is absolutely necessary. We just found out this week he needs 2 more stents and his mitral valve fixing as it is leaking. The less stress for him the better.
She is trying so hard to stay afloat but will not let go of her husband or the kids. She will not let anyone know where they are staying. CPS will do nothing whithout an address. We have filed theft reports with the police for the dad as he took computer stuff from the house but it may not stick because none of us can accurately describe the dang moniter - it was *** moniter color, does anyone, without actually looking at their moniter know if it's light grey, dark grey or black??????? We do know it's a compaq but other than that.... The drama keeps unfolding as each day passes and I fear the children will be put in harms way. As soon as they have a warrant for her arrest or his, CPS can then become involved but this all takes time and it has been 2 weeks now already.
I peak in here just to help learn about addiction and what she is up against. I find all of you that post regularly very caring, helpful and hopeful to others. I admire you all for your individual strengths as you are each unique with your own experiences. I am learning how hard this is for you all as well.
I saw a speaker in NA who at 5 years clean still packed a gun. At the time, she had 15 years of recovery. People recover in God's time and in their own way. Congrats on your 20 months and your service committment, NA needs good GSR's, especially those willing to stay for the entire ASC meeting.
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I agree with Kim. ( LizzieLou) Maybe, just maybe if you tell her that and take the kids to be with you will be enough to realize she needs to STOP and do what needs to be done, and just how much she has to lose. She is thinking right now, well nobody (legally) knows and hasn't done anything, "yet". However, with the upcoming I assume battle she is going to have with the law, it will all come out and THEY may just place them kids elsewhere. I do not know where you live, and all States are dif. But if you are able to, I would threaten that RIGHT NOW and bring them kids home with you. That is if you are able to care for them.
I do not know the whole story, but boy do I feel for you too. The children definitely do not deserve it, they are so innocent. I feel like a hypocrite writing that b/c I am a mother and I am addicted due to a back surgery, I was put on the meds but the addiction is my own fault.
But my kids are the reason I am trying so hard, and for myself but also with the help from this forum.
Please let us know how things go, and I am sending some prayers your way, for all of you involved.
Huggs
Tracy
I do not know the whole story, but boy do I feel for you too. The children definitely do not deserve it, they are so innocent. I feel like a hypocrite writing that b/c I am a mother and I am addicted due to a back surgery, I was put on the meds but the addiction is my own fault.
But my kids are the reason I am trying so hard, and for myself but also with the help from this forum.
Please let us know how things go, and I am sending some prayers your way, for all of you involved.
Huggs
Tracy
all i am going to say is thank you two222 for making me feel like i AM accomplishing my goal to get clean, and stay clean, and that SOMEONE other than my husband & my therapist & my sub. doctor thinks i am doing pretty damn good, and that i am not wrong nor am i a stupid uninformed horrible person that is defending my addiction and not facing my recovery. end of story
you cannot do anything...at this very moment...for your daughter...BUT...you can do something for those children. if my grandson was in an environment not suitable for him...i would not hesitate one minute before driving over there and getting him. i would tell his parents that they have one choice to make...foster care or me...but that one of them is going to happen...and it is going to be NOW!!!
i know how you must feel...frustrated...hopeless...helpless...and pretty much just damned tired of all of it. it is truly so hard to watch the ones we love just self destruct.
if addiction only affected the addict.............................................but it doesn't.
huggs,
kim
i know how you must feel...frustrated...hopeless...helpless...and pretty much just damned tired of all of it. it is truly so hard to watch the ones we love just self destruct.
if addiction only affected the addict.............................................but it doesn't.
huggs,
kim
I feel for you. I have no advice for you because Im not in your situation but I just wanted you to know that I was thinking of you and I really hope everything works itself out. Kids dont need that! and neither do YOU!
XXXOOO
XXXOOO
Thank you for the reply. I am willing to hear and take whatever gets dished out. Right now, I just want the 3 grandkids to be in a safe place. I am very torn about my feelings for my daughter, I love her but this may be too much.....
Im not offended by beach, I actually appreciate his humor and info. But there are some people who are not going to obviously (same goes for me cuz I have NO tact whatsoever! hah!) Ive been tryin to be good here tho.
be careful what you wish for...lol. his honesty is brutal...so you better be prepared to hear it.
i am also the mother of an addict...3 to be exact...and beach and i have been talking on messenger for months now. there will be no sugar coating it...and he will lay it all out on the table. he has always been honest with me...maybe a little too honest at times...lol. beach is beach...you love him or hate him...but one thing...he is sincere in his efforts to help others. some find him offensive...and he is...lol...but he sure can get you thinking about it...and that is what he has set out to do...mission accomplished.
sooooo...be prepared to hear the truth...that is what he is all about. but given a chance...he will bend over backwards to help you or any addict he comes in contact with.
kim
i am also the mother of an addict...3 to be exact...and beach and i have been talking on messenger for months now. there will be no sugar coating it...and he will lay it all out on the table. he has always been honest with me...maybe a little too honest at times...lol. beach is beach...you love him or hate him...but one thing...he is sincere in his efforts to help others. some find him offensive...and he is...lol...but he sure can get you thinking about it...and that is what he has set out to do...mission accomplished.
sooooo...be prepared to hear the truth...that is what he is all about. but given a chance...he will bend over backwards to help you or any addict he comes in contact with.
kim
yes, lol was just givin ya s h i t! hehe
I know I am always back and forth. I enjoy both forums. :)
I know I am always back and forth. I enjoy both forums. :)
Yeah I think Beach is trying for a record breaker on post count from that other post yesterday from "icky person"
LMAO
j/k Beach, I know your not!
HUGGS!
LMAO
j/k Beach, I know your not!
HUGGS!
I agree with you - you know what this kind of reminds me of - the animal kingdom and when the male's pee to mark their territory? Just a joke...ok going back to my side now. :)
Unsure who the post was to, or if everybody, anyhow:
I do not want to be told what to do. I have to do this myself. I read and take from it what I can. Whether that be in a "blunt" way or sugar coated. I don't care, and I personally don't believe in "sugar coating" anything. As long as it helps someone and that is the main goal to this forum, then I guess whoever it may have been to post something I or any other was able to "take and apply" something from was worth the authors writing.
I do not want to be told what to do. I have to do this myself. I read and take from it what I can. Whether that be in a "blunt" way or sugar coated. I don't care, and I personally don't believe in "sugar coating" anything. As long as it helps someone and that is the main goal to this forum, then I guess whoever it may have been to post something I or any other was able to "take and apply" something from was worth the authors writing.
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