Kicking it for the last time

I have been abusing lots of opiates in the last few months and recently have been taking alot of  20MG Opana's, prob at like 40-50 mgs/ day and I have tried to stop recently but the withdrawals are super bad and I didnt even last through day one the last time that I tried.  I just aquired some more and am going to try to weind down and would like some help of tips on dosages and ways to get through this week,  I currently have 3 20 mg Opana's and a half of a 20 mg, (I have been snorting them).  I also have 2 4 MG Dilloted's and a 10 MG Methadone.  Based on the supply that I have I am going to try to slowly weind down the best that I can to minimize the severity of Withdrawals.  I have pretty much accepted that I am going to go through withdrawal but I have to work this week and dont want to be worthless at work and make my co-workers get suspicious of whats going on........I have to quit, I have been battling with this addiction on and off for almost 5 years and have quit and started again so many times but this time its out of control completely, normally I can manage the withdrawal and cut down before it gets to bad but these Opana's are dangerously addictive.......any support and advice that people can give me would be really appreciated, I have to do this!  I dont want to go back to treatment and have my family find out and risk losing my job and having my boss find out, I just need to get through this week and stop forever,  

[onthefence]

just start with taking time in small segments! Forever is a trigger in its self, (for me anyways)
ween down the best you can, then be ill, then One Day at a Time, really, it can be that easy,
life is what we make it.......

[CarmineVercetti]

Thanks alot for the encouragement, I am going to try to ween the best I can, I will keep posting, this helped me the last time I quit

[BrunoB21]

Many people might not agree with me on this because you will be essentially trading one evil for another, but in my mind, one is obviously much lesser an evil than the other.

Consider Suboxone. If you visit this site daily and take the advice a sub doc would give you with a grain of salt, then your odds of managing the suboxone correctly will greatly increase. Most suboxone docs will try to push the idea you will need the stuff long term and even the rest of your life, but that is very, very untrue.
I used to shoot up roxys and oxys 4 to 5 times a day and when i say the addiction easily cost a minimum of $100 a day, its no exaggeration. It still took me some time even with the subs to completely quit the opiates, but i can say today without lying that i havent shot up, let alone taken a true opiate in over 6 months.

I can thank the subs for that. The catch22 however, im now hooked on the subs. Though the w/d are milder, they last longer. Im trying to taper down to mere scraps before once again trying to quit, but id rather be sticking 1mg or so of sub under my tongue then getting ready for a day of crime and debauchery trying to get the money for some dope.

PS: Like i said, i used to shoot up ALOT. But i still only needed (at most) a half or 3rd a day (one 3 or 4mg for the entire day). Some Suboxone docs will try to get you to take a full 2 or 3 suboxone a day (16 to 24mg a day), which in my non-medical, yet personal and experienced view, is nonsense.

[BrunoB21]

Id say just look into it and see what you think for yourself. Suboxone really helped me turn my life around for the better.

[CarmineVercetti]

YEah I was on Subs for like a year after I quit taking OC's a couple years back, I had just as bad of a time getting off of the Subs as I did everything else.....I ended up relapsing when I ran out of SUBs, plus they are super hard to get where I am from unless you go to treatment and then the treatment facility refers you to a pain clinic......you cant just make an appointment to see a Doc and have the doc put you on SUBS, it doesnt work like that

[snakejones]

Hi there, and welcome to the forum. You will make a lot of friends here if you stick around. You are right, MN is a very conservative state in many ways, including pain clinics/methadone programs/suboxone programs.
I am worried about you having to go to work in acute withdrawal. Opana is really potent, so you are in for a rough ride. I'll let others suggest OTC and herbal remedies that have helped, as I am new here as well. You may get so overwhelmed with the withdrawal symtoms (symptoms) that you will need to call in sick to work. Say you've got a bad case of flu. If your work requires a doctor's excuse, you can always go to urgent care, as withdrawal  symptoms can mimic other illnesses. I wish you all the best, and hope your withdrawals will be mild. But whether they are or not, we are all here to help!

[CarmineVercetti]

Thanks alot for the support, I am going to try to make the best of it, today I have already done more than 1 of my 20 MG Opana's, its so hard to start cutting down and I need to be stronger at it otherwise the WD is going to be unbearable, I pray I can do this, I really do, If I can last until at least thur/friday and start my WD on Friday, go through Hell friday, sat, and sunday, maybe this can work, I hope this can work

[snakejones]

Hi, again---
Start cutting down as much as you can. Each day is a clean start. Hang in there and stay close to this forum--we are here to help you through this.

[CarmineVercetti]

Alright guys, its going to be a tough one I can already tell, I am now down to like 3/4 of a 20 mg Opana left, a 10 mg Methatdone, and 2 4 mg Dilloted's......I can make them last at least til thursday, the question is how bad the W/D will be on friday and throughout the weekend, I am hoping I can ween down enough to make it bareable.......I will stick close to the forum, thanks for the support people I will keep you all updated!!! God Bless you all

[snakejones]

Hi, honey, you bracin' for the storm? You'll be okay. All your new friends are here to help. Just stay close to the computer and talk to us. Between us all we probably got a total of 20 years straight of withdrawals!
Have you read the Thomas recipe yet? It's on the right side of the screen. Scroll down till you see "Most Viewed Health Pages", and click on the recipe. It's got several things for you to pick up, so go to the store while you feel good. Also buy juice, Coke/7-Up/ginger ale, crackers, soup, canned fruit/fruit cocktail, and anything else that appealed to you while you were sick in the past with flu. Nice, regressive stuff. Jell-O and pudding cups, the ready to eat stuff. A few cookies, maybe. Get some Aleve (if you can normally take it) for muscle aches, and maybe a few Benadryl. Sleep is hard to come by, usually, so plan to watch TV, maybe buy a few magazines and comic books to distract you. Others will help you with more ideas--just ask what has helped everyone.
Hang in there! I'll be looking out for you.

[CarmineVercetti]

Thanks alot, this morning I finished up the last of my Opana and also took the Methadone half of it last night and half of it about an hour ago,  I am already starting to feel a little anxiety.....I have 2 4 mg Dillotted left that I am going to try to make it throught the night before I take them but I doubt I will be able too,  this is going to be a rough one but I have been averaging like 30mg of Opana a day since I started cutting down so I am hoping that helps......at least I have this weekend off to hopefully suffer in peace, so If I can make it through today and tomorrow and start the full blown W/D on friday, then I can prob make it through sat and sunday and hopefully the worst of it will be over, thanks alot for your support, I am so sick of this addiction I cannot stand it in the face of the things I have lost over the years because of it......I will keep you guys updated, thanks for the support!

[onthefence]

its 80% mental, try to keep your mind occupied with anything, time must pass so receptors close & body can get use to normal amount/natural endorphins, exercise creates endorphins needed to fill remaining receptors.
you can do this , ppl do it everyday!
you will make it to the other side :)

[CarmineVercetti]

I ended up pickin up 3 more 20 mg Opana's, its hard because this guy just fronts them to me, it is so hard not to take them when he offers, especially when I am going through W/D, I am slowing lowering the dosing and hope to get through the WD still this weekend, I am debating on actually going to a Suboxone pain clinic this weekend if I get some cash, I have a friend that owes me alot of money that is supposed to pay me tomorrow or friday and if he does I think I am going to get back on Subs short term and have the Doc ween me off professionally, I know its trading one drug for another but I was on Subs before and they helped me get clean that time so its either that or continuing the way I have been, I owe my dealer close to $700 bucks this time and I dont know where I am going to get the $ to pay him or just screw him over which I dont want to do cause hes a cool dude and is trying to help me through this,   I just hate this addiction so much.......I am going to continue to make these last two Pans last through as much as I can to spread them out as best I can but if I dont get on the Subs I know I am in for a rough ride either way :-(  thanks alot for the advice and support, I know I can do this!!!!

[snakejones]

Hi, sweetie---I've been thinking about you a lot today. As long as you are strong enough to wean yourself you can do it, but do you think you can? 'Cause it's you that'll have to cut everything up and dole them out and pretty much be the Lone Ranger for awhile. It's hard, and you will be tempted big time when you have a stressful day or aren't feeling too good physically. I hope you can get a pro to help you quit, but whatever you decide to do, we are here to help! I hope you will sleep well tonight. See you again soon...

[CarmineVercetti]

Thanks alot darlin',  I know I will be strong enough when it comes down to it, just thinking about the Subs, if I can get my friend to pay me I am going to see the Doc this weekend and hopefully that will solve the issue of WD and try to ween down from the Subs as fast as possible, I dont want to be stuck on them for a year like I was the last time around, but I think its my best option at this point if I can do it,

[gnarly_1]

HI  to taper is going to take a lot more then 3 pills we can no longer discuss taper plans in the open forum but one thing is for sure it takes weeks even months to taper off a bad habit like this one I know going C/T may not be appealing but it will get you off in a week or so instead of going the sub rout witch usually means months ......then theirs no garentee the sub is going to be any ezer to come off of.....sub is a funny drug we havbe had members come off 2mg and have little to no withdrawals and others litterly break the stuff down to crumbs and suffer long hard withdrawals its a crap shoot with that stuff.....think you woulld just be better off biting the bullet and getting it over with kinda like ripping a bandaid off it hurts bad but only for a short time we will support you however you decide to do thie opana is strong stuff and I believe it is going to take over the notch the 40 and 80mg oxy use to have b/4 they changed the formula just know you can do this it is always worst in our minds then it turns out to be and you just got to be ok without being ok for a wile this to shall pass......wish you luck with whatever you decide God bless.....Gnarly

[CarmineVercetti]

Thank you very much for the support, I think you are right

[CarmineVercetti]

yesterday I had like 3/4 of a 20 mg opana, and 2 4 gm Dilauded, today all I have left is one more 20 mg opana, I already took half so I am going to wait as long as I can to take the other half, hopefully not til tomorrow,   HOW BAD DO YOU GUYS HONESTLY think the withdrawal will be?  My boss is getting suspicious that something is wrong and I dont want to go back to work in sevre acute withdrawal on monday?  any suggestions?  I have a friend that legally orders dried poppy pods online, and makes poppy pod tea from them and says thats how he weened.....has anyone in here had experience with Poppy pod tea before?

[CarmineVercetti]

PS I have to do this, my life and career and everything I have worked so hard to accomplish in the last year are on the line......