METHADONE PLEASE HELP

[ohmybob]

alright so ive been taking hydrocodone 10's about 4 a day for the past5 months and ive been taking painkillers in general for about  a year and two months....i finally raelized i had a problem as it was affecting my wallet, grades in school, tolerance, and social life...so i went to a methadone clinic and they started me off in 15 mg a day....i took my first dosage about an hour and a half ago, and honestly i feel slightly buzzed right now....i have a three pronged question.. 1.) do you recommend i continue with this dosage, slightly tapering off?  and 2.) did they start me off with too much?  and finally 3.)  how much should i take for the less painful tapering off process?    any info in addition to these questions would be much appreciated....thanks again guys/gals.

[ohmybob]

please someone this is only my fist day on 15mg of methadone....i dont want to play out the horror stories ive read on here, but at the same time i need to be able to function monday through friday from 7 in the morning to 6 in the evening....please help

[Beargizmo]

I know nothing about methadone so I'm sorry I can be of no help there...I'm sure there are folks who will come along with some advice.  My habit was not as great as most here, but I'm still an addict, and I managed to get buy with .1mg of clonidine 3x day and klonopin (with immodium for the gastric discomfort).

Jim

[ohmybob]

dude thats about where i was before they putme on this **** (minus the klonopin)...i would take about 3-5 vicodin .1

[3grlz'mom]

I also don't know much about methadone, but everything I have heard tells me that this is not easy to stop either, once you start, and I am a little surprised you went to methadone because 3 to 5 tablets of hydro is not all that much from what I gather from other posts, and may not have been too difficult on you to have stopped on your own.  Maybe someone else could corroborate - was it suggested to you by someone to try the methadone?  How did you decide to go that route?

[justlikeyou]

DONT USE METHADONE. its THE worst drug to detox from , most never do.

[tootough]

Look, I hate methadone but I got off it.  If you can't get off whatever and you use it as a VERY short lived process and quick detox, it will work fine.  It's the clinic part.  They might telle you not to taper quickly and keep you on it longer than is good for YOU.  They have other interests than you in mind, many times if not all, unfortunately.  Just please, if you're at the beginning, don't do it more than a week or two, max.  I was on 5 mg for at least 3 weeks when I went to 2.5 for  a few days then nothhing.  It took me 33+ days to feel anythning but complete misery and I was only on my full dose for two months prior.  For a ninety day methadone habit I suffered cold turkey with my taper for more than a month.  What about subutex for a slow taper?   I think it could be a better option.  Whatever you decide, I learned a lot about the methadone withdrawals when I went through it.  FLaddict has great things to say about amino acids etc. yesterday or the day before, but I couldn't even eat or really keep down fluids.  Keep us posted on your path.  Keep your relationship with metha]done REALL Y  SHORT, if at all.

[hellc@mst]

yeah.15 mgs is a small dose of mdone.If yr getting a buzz off that dose i suggest u drop down to 10mgs.Depending on what u want im inclined to advise u to start tapering off at maybe 2mgs pw.Honestly is a small dose and the quicker u dtox off it the better.Dragging ur feet and prolonging such a mdone dose is really counter productive.Unlike most people here who constantky extol the alleged virtues of sub,my experince has taught me that mdone is the best opioid treatment modality known to the medical  field

[dng]

run as fast as u can away from methadone.....take a vallium for the w/d....please you will regret the day u started taking it....very.very hard to get off...good luck

[011207]

I don't know much about methadone but I know that 3-5 pills for the length of time you said you've been takingi t for is a realtively small amount.  If I were you, I wold stop the methadone, and go c/t.  You can go to a dr for some valium or some xanax to help you but at that level you shouldbe almost back to normal after 3 days or so, maybe sooner.  You don't want to trade one addiction for another and meth is the hardest to get off of.
Please reconsider.  Your habit by comparison is not that bad.  Hell, at my worst I was taking up to 220 mg of percocet a day for a year!!!

[hellc@mst]

yeah more scare mongering.please ignore the anti mdone pro valium or pro sub factions on this forum who have no scientific evidence to prove that thier way is more efficious and successful than others.Again scientific studies have repeatedly proven that mdone IS the most successful and the most highly studied treatment modalidity for chronic opiate addicts.60 years of scientific study on mdone vs less than 10 4 sub.

[dng]

hey....i know some one who was on meth for over 14 yrs...it's very hard to detox from...your rite vallium and xanez r no better...but it's easier for the w/d....rather take that then meth,,,,just my opinion that's all

[hellc@mst]

yr welcome to yr opinion.My opinion on mdone comes from 13 years on mdone maintanence.While dtoxing i had a hard time sure but i had tried sub(hated it) and avoided benzos since i hav an unhealthily partial to ne benzo.Since the guy who started this thread is already on mdone how bout supporting him off of it w/out promoting ne other mind altering substances.

[dng]

your rite 100%...it's just that meth scares me to death......so glad to hear that u were able to detox off of it...good for you...this forum has helped me so much...i have talked to so many GOOD people here...you sound like one of them good job thanks...dee

[hellc@mst]

cool Dee.nice chatting with ya.take care.
Regards J

[011207]

No one said methadone doesn't have its place but at his level of usage and for that length of time it makes no sense that he would go that route.  Nor does it make sense for him to go the Sub route either.  The benzos are to take the edge off but you don't have to use that either.
If someone at that level is looking to go on methadone they should  make a decisiont o use it short term. You cannot possibly tell me that you thik that this person should be on meth 10 years form now based on the amount that they've been using and for the length of time they've been using it?  That's madness!!

[JuneSunflower]

If I were you, drop to 10 or even 5 mg and only do it for 2-4 more days.  Trust me, DO NOT TAKE LONGER THAN 5 DAYS!  It is much stronger than hydrocodone and it stays in your body for a long time, the half-life is 4-6 times stronger than hydrocodone.  If you do it this way, it will get you through the rough physical withdrawals of they hydrocodone. Best Wishes and keep us updated on what you do.
Junesunflower

[94orchard]

Good Morning,
  I was a methadone maintainence patient for almost 3 years.  Methadone turned my life into a LIVING NIGHTMARE.  Not to mention I paid the clinic $13,000 plus 2 brand new vehicles that I crashed drving 90 miles one way every single day for a year.  GET OFF methadone as soon as possible.  Right now you are on a very, very low dose.  The clinic will keep suggesting that you raise your dose, just to keep you there.  To them is all about $$$$$$$.  One time you come up short with your fee and they will start what they call as a "financial detox"  they don't care how sick you are.  
  Being that you have only had a habbit for a little over 1 year (Believe me I am not making light of your situation, they are all grave) You would probably be a perfect candidate for the Suboxone/Subutex program.  You should really look into it.  It keeps you very normal all day long.  Unlike methadone which has you sweating profusly and walking around stoned all day.  I hate to see any one else have to endure the pain and suffering I went through in my battle to get off those "liquid handcuffs"  I have been on suboxone for 10 months and I feel 200% better than any day on methadone.  Good Luck to you.  Kevin.
My email is ***@**** if you would like to talk or learn more about suboxone.  thanks.

[dng]

i agree with every one who has responded....please re think this out before  you continue on meth...there are other ways to detox...trust me the w/d won't be that bad..we have all been there you can do it without the meth...good luck sweetie..i'm here if you need to talk

[ohmybob]

hey thanks guys, i woke up about an hour ago, and i still feel light headed and dizzy from the 15mg yesterday i took around 5pm.....i didnt know go this morning to get my dosage for today and sunday....im just going to keep fighting this **** off....and only go to that damned clinic if absolutel need be...maybe go every other day taking only 5-10mg's...

[beverden2]

please dont do the methadone. my son went to the methadone clinic. he was horrible on it . and it was just a week. that kept raising his dose. he was throwing up and you know that want youhooked on it . cause they want your money every week. he stopped going. thank the good lord. he went to his own dr and they have him on zoft.  he is doing fine. he was taking vicodin. that is why he went to the methadone clinic. stay away from mehtadone please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ohmybob]

do yo know how much tehy started your son on, and how much vicodin was he taking and for how long before he went?   thanks//

[willruthie1965]

Bob plzlisten to everyone and not go the methadone route.I always was able to quit vicodin and never methadone Ruthie

[Veracity]

Talk about Fate? I think God sent me to you Bob. I was a police officer for 3 years in Chicago, IL. I was shot 3 times by a 15 year old boy who wanted my badge for a Trophy to show off to his Gang Buddies. I spent 6 months in the hospital being pumped full of IV Opiates. When I got out I was given a few scripts of Hydrocodone (Vicodine) After being out for about 6 hours I started to get shakey, Cold Sweats, and Very Uncomfortable. By back started to hurt so I decided to take a Vic. WOW, All of thos sympotms suddenly went away. GAME OVER. After a month, it took 2 Vics to acheive the same affect. Then 3, Then 4. After 2 years, just like you I figured a Methadone Treatment Program was the answer. I SWORE I would Get on, Taper off and live happily ever after..  HAAAA!!! Yeah, O.K The biggest problem with Methadone is that it is Very Powerful as a Placebo! You believe that without it, or without an "Adiquite" dose, you do not feel good, and because you belief is so strong, YOU DO NOT FEEL GOOD! I, just like everyone else, Was TOTALLY DEDICATED to getting off this ****. Now, 2 years later, I am writing this waiting for my dose to kick in. As stated above brother, RUN..... You do not have a dependancy at this moment like you THINK you do. I'm not saying that you are going to want to run outside and play baseball with your kid, but feeling like **** for a few weeks is NOTHING COMPARED TO TRYING TO GET OFF OF METHADONE! Like stated above also, "Bob" is not the Abuse Centers priority, MONEY IS! They do not want you clean, they want you Medicated because Medicated equals MONEY. Methadone treatment centers are nothing more than Justified Government Ram and Operated Drug Dealing Posts usually Privately Owned by some clown in a suit who has never touched a drug in his life! Mind you, I was a well decorated POLICE OFFICER who NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER touched ANY DRUG EVER, and I can not WAIT for this **** to kick in. I graduated top of my class in 1997 at the age of 14. I completed 6 years of college by the age of 21 and made the mistake of following my heart instead of my educated choice of employment that I had worked so hard to get toward. I do not want to stray fro the topic, but Bob, what everyone is telling you is Extreemely Accurate. You have not been Main Lining Heroin for 11 years! You took a few too many Vics and depend on that Feeling to get by for the day. Forget it. Tell these clowns STRICTLY that you want to be dropped to 10Mg's right off the bat (due to you obviously being over medicated if your feeling BUZZED) then dropped 1 Mg every other day until you reach 3Mgs. The biggest mistake people make is thinking WELL 3 Mg's ISN'T ANYTHING ANYWAY, I'll JUST STOP AND NOT SHOW FOR THE OTHER 2 Mgs DROP. You can not do that. Allow then to drop you slowly with the last few. (i.e 1 Mg per 3 or 4 days until Zero) The goal is to reach Zero with no cravings. Mind you, that you MIGHT crave anyway, but it is not Physical at that point, it is Mental) It is your body saying Hey, arent I supposed to be taking something to feel good? But you will be victorious over others, because you have already made the choice to Educate yourself where others have made the choice to say "MORE METHADONE PLEASE"
   I have Faith that your gunna kick this Methadone ***** ***. If I didn't, I would not have spent this time writing you. This is the first post I have Ever writted on Any type of drug site. I was actually looking for a Link for a friend when God lead me to you!

     Good Luck Brother!

[Veracity]

Sorry about the spelling, I forget to spell check it... lol

[Veracity]

Dear Lord,,, I just re-read my post to Bob. LMAO Wow, I'm supposed to be this well educated individual, and I used the word "Writted"   LMMFAO. My problem is I type like 75 words a minute and knowingly leave the mistakes because I always spell check it in the end. That is so funny. So sorry Bob..lmao

[justlikeyou]

your point was well made, even a well educated police officer can develop a problem...a serious problem with methadone.

good post, thanks.

i hope you get well.

sooner rather than later.

[ohmybob]

veracity your post has really inspired me, im actually a CJ major myself about to graduate in the spring...i KNOW that you know exactly what you're tlaking about and you know what to do...i just feel that if i didnt detox with methadone i would have to take huge legal risks, and as you being a former cop, know that script drug penalties are NO JOKE, especially in the goold ole conservative state of NC...if i just had like a month or two where i could afford to just chill out at my moms house i could kick this **** today im pretty sure....its just the tests keep coming, responsibilities keep piling up...i am going to take you're advice though and immediately start taking like 6-8 mg when i go in today...thank you so much and please post back if u can think of anything else to tell me....i gotta go to work and counseling now, but ill be back on around 7 or 8 tonight...thanks again veracity, your post has really inspired me...