Marijuana and Hepatitis C

[Judster]

If you have Hepatitis C. can smoking marijuana occasionally harm your liver? What about having a couple of drinks only on special occasions. Only once a month or two?

[hippy]

hey there judster, i may not be the best person to answer
your  post,i have had many and i mean many freinds who where
clean for years, have hep c start acting up , and take them
right out out of here, hep c  to me is the most deadly
disease going. so i would not play around with it,
i would try to stay as healthy as possible eat good ,
exersize, take vitamines, don't smoke. get into a real
good habit of to bed early and up early.
just my opinion.
alcohol is a definite no no.
smoke dope cou make ya do things ya   might regret

unless you are in a stage
where it does not matter any more.

don't take my thought to harsh  i jsut have seen to many close freinds ,go by the way, because if  hep c

hippy

[bmac]

Drinking is real bad.Now smokin'pot doesn't hurt you but the things you do while high on pot can hurt you.I smoke on occassions but I don't let it lead to other things.Also stay away from the munchies.The food you eat will effect your liver.
Just use you head about it.
                                bmac

[lisabet]

Speaking of marijuana - does anyone know how long it would show up in a urine test after the last time you smoked it?  Also is there anything you can take to cause a false/positve on this test? I'm curious because there's something going on in my life right now (not me, for once) that causes me to ask this question. Thanking you in advance, Lisabet.

[hippy]

it stay in your system for a little under 40 days
more like 30.
as far as masking agents most test  today are looking for masking agents. and they can get you in as much trouble.

this fourm really is not the place to br asking that type of question,
so you mught want to look else where on the net undre masking agents.
honesty is the best policy.
i really do wish you well, i really don't want anyone to lose thier job because of bad judgement
we all here have made simalar mistakes , but we are not
here to enable each other to continue to make bad judgements.

good luck and i hope everything works out for ya.

[DubeMechanic]

Weed stays in your system about 30 days.

There arent any reliable ways around it although Ive heard rumors.. but I wouldnt take stock in them..

DM

[mrmichael67]

It depends on what type of smoker you are.  A chronic smoker can take up to a month.  A once a week smoker can take as little as three days or a week.  A person's metabolism and fat content play a role as THC clings to fat cells.  There is no set number for how long it takes.  Generally, if you are a moderate smoker, give at least three weeks to be comfortable.  If you smoke 24/7, then a month will be the best way for you to feel comfortable and confident for a urine.  Some chronic smokers can be clean real quick.  It depends on the person and usually how much you smoke.  No magic formula.

[Thomas02]

Beating the UA

The basic idea behind passing a UA is to provide a sample with the highest possible ratio of water to drug metabolites. Here's what you do:
1) always make some excuse that gives you 4 or 5 days til you have to test -- weekends are always handy for buying time;
2) for the FIRST 2 days ONLY, do light aerobic exercise (jogging, bicycling, swimming) along with lots and lots of hydrating (drinking lots of water);
3) STOP ALL exercise 2 to 3 days before your test (exercise releases drug metabolites, which you don't want so close to your test day;
4) For the final 2 days before your test, drink water constantly so that you're pissing every hour on the hour;
5) Whatever you do, NEVER, NEVER give them the first urine of the day (it contains lots more drug metabolites than urine from the rest of the day); IMPORTANT: Stay up all night prior to your test and drink water like a fiend (but remember, NO exercise!).
6) A few hours before your test, take 1/2 of a full-spectrum multiple vitamin tablet to color your urine for the test.
7) On the morning of your test -- without fail -- make sure you pee at least twice before you go over to the lab.
8)IMPORTANT FOR MEN AND WOMEN: When you give the sample, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER put the start of the stream in the cup!! The beginning of the stream is loaded with metabolites. Instead, start peeing in the toilet for about 5 seconds, then fill up the cup. Also, don't put the end of the stream into the cup, either. This technique will ensure that your water-to-metabolite ratio is so lobsided that it would take an extremely sensetive (and expensive) test (such as a gas chromatograph) to detect any illicit substances.
99% of drug testing is done by private clinics who are only interested in collecting the fee for conducting the test and clearing the employee. Even the state parole and probation departments use this method. The exception is when sensetive government jobs are involved or for pharmaceutical manufacturing jobs (damn!).
Anyway, that's the drill. Good luck. Oh, yeah, forget that Golden Seal **** -- it doesn't work and many places test for it.

Thomas

[GOD]

To beat a marajuana test, simply refrain from smoking any THC containing materials for at least 30 days prior to testing. This will assure a negative test result.

If that is not an option, Thomas's recommendation above is your "Best Bet"--

In pain tonight.... BUT... It only makes you STRONGER!
~~~~~JesseSarpy~~~~~

[lisabet]

Dube, Mrmichael, Thomas & Jess, Thanks for the information; I really appreciate it.  As to Hippy, I found your post a little condescending; you say this forum is not the place to ask questions like this; I thought this was an open forum, you've made me feel embarrassed; I won't be posting here anymore. It didn't concern anything about anyone losing their job; it was about my 15 year-old son. Don't know if you've read any of my previous posts, but I'm also a user (8-10 hydros) a day, so I'm feeling particulary vulnerable; wanting to quit and don't yet have the strength; I thought this was a place I could ask questions without being rejected (maybe I'm being too sensitive--your post made me cry, but it's just the place I'm in right now).  Lisabet

[GOD]

I know how you feel right now (I have felt the SAME way on many occasions), but don't turn your back on the forum as a whole due to one experience. I don't beleive that hippy was passing judgement of any kind upon you, by the way. He happens to be one of the most caring posters here on this forum, and I'm sure that it was his *concern* for your personal well-being that may have appeared to you as condescending or judgemental. Please keep posting. We need YOU as much as you need US.

~~~~~Jess

[athena]

Please don't feel embarrassed by what hippy said.I truly dont think he would have wanted that.He really cares about this forum and all the members.Maybe you were both just having one of those emotional days.This forum needs you .Sometimes we say things wrong and sometimes we take things wrong.I think were kinda like a big family and just as in a family we're bound to hurt each others feelings sometimes.I hope you continue posting here.

pixi

[hippy]

well i don't want to offend you, or make you feel bad.
and i did not mean in any way to be condesending.
what i was trying to get across was that this fourm
is not a place where we help each other  to get away
with doing drugs that are aginst the law  or teach each other how to get away with passing a drug test when we are useing
there is a reason why they have drug test, so we don't hurt our selves or others,
none of us here are saints , and most of us  ,myself included
have done many things aginst the law.
but i understand this fourm to be a place where we are trying to do the right thing.
you can still ask any question you want , im sure some will answer it,i hope all works out for you .
and you don't have to leave the fourm because  im not prefect.
we have to allow other s to be wrong sometimes and to be allowed to make mistakes, like i said i could be wrong .
take it light

[groovygirl]

lisabet, like hippy said, we try not to encourage each other to do destructive things.  telling you how to pass a drug test isn't constructive...it encourages you to do the wrong thing.  hippy is the most non-judgemental person here, so i'm positive he didn't mean it the way you took it.  his posts are always about caring and being positive.....stay.

hippy you cool dude...how are you?  what have you been up to this weekend?

[hippy]

thanks for the positive input,
im good  ,hope you are good.
me and my wife have one of her girl freinds over because
her husband has been calling her names and curseing
at her , i have spoken to him but he is very imature
and he thinks there is nothing wrong.
his wife is here now and will probley stay over nite.
her husband needs to learn how to act with kindness and
treat his wife with affection. and not act like a jerk.
they have been married for about 2 years, but there is no excuse
for the verble abuse. hopefully i can get through to him.

peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Thomas02]

Hang around, lisbet. I will always answer your questions regardless of which noses get out of joint. I imagine the powers that be will eventually ban me. So what? ****'m. I might just start my own forum where the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth can be told. Hope your son beats the pot narcs.

Thomas

[bmac]

I would love for you to do just that.New forum thing.Things have
really gotten out of hand here.IMHO.It is amazing how things have changed.I also think some have switched to ezboards.
I went there but you have to wait on them to accept you.I guess
that leaves me out.And if anybody gets banned here it will be me I am sure.But thanks for saying the things you feel because alot of us look for your help here.
                     Thanks again!
                          Bill

[Thomas02]

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[Thomas02]

Bill, contact me at ***@****. What's the name of that southern group you like so much?

[bmac]

Widespread Panic!!!!

[groovygirl]

i definitly don't want to get into it with you...not by a long shot, but i was surprised by your comments.

do you honestly think that answering that type of question is constructive?  

[Thomas02]

Hello, Groovy,

Do you consider it constructive for someone to be expelled from school, thrown off an athletic team, fired from his job, denied employment or sent to jail simply because he took a hit off a joint one Saturday night? Can you honestly tell us that you have never done the same? I categorically reject society's treatment of drug users as hypocritical, needlessly draconian and ultimately catastrophic to users and non-users alike. So, to answer your question, YES -- in today's society, I consider my advice to be most constructive, and I intend to keep offering the same advice for as long as "they" let me.

I'm curious though. If you have the courage of your own convictions, why not "get into it" with me? I'm sure you'd agree it's an important issue worth exploring.

[groovygirl]

i don't want to "get into it" with anyone here (anymore).  in the past, i've let myself get upset about things other people here have said.  it does nothing positive for me, and the only reason i come here is to help me stay sober...and positive and hopefully help out someone else.

i have no problems with people who smoke pot...i personally think it should be legal.  however, i think those types of conversations, like telling someone how to pass a drug test or how to shoot up properly are things that could be better discussed via private email.  most people here are hanging on by a thread to their sobriety...talking about that stuff is a total bummer when you are going thru heavy withdrawal.  

when i was using (and not ready to stop using) this was the last kind of place i would want to be.  there are plenty of forums like  drugbuyers.com where "how to shoot up without getting welts" would be a perfectly appropriate topic to discuss.  i'm done...you can flame me, but i won't even blink let alone retaliate. we can agree to disagree can't we?

[Witchywoman]

I'm not going to take any sides here, but want to share what my husband just had to go through.

He is not an addict, lucky dog that he is. Now he has control of my meds for the occassions that I truly need them (and unfortunately my back is so bad that I do occassionally really need one, though it scares the **** out of me to take one again).

Anyway, my hubby got laid off from a very high paying job four months ago. We live in the Bay Area, where this is happening to almost everyone. We have no savings. We'd be hosed in no time and are already in debt from the 2 months he was without work.

He got a good job offer, 30k a year less, but hell, at least it was a decent job and he was very lucky to get an offer that soon. Many have been out of work for much longer.
Well, they needed a drug test, and he smokes pot. And it was a hair test, not a urine test, much harder to dodge, impossible to dodge some say.
If it weren't for some creativity on his part, he might still be unemployed and we'd be looking at saying goodbye to our house.
Luckily through his own creativity he did pass the test and got the job and all is well.

The current climate of big brother controlling us like that is just scary. Civil liberties are going down left and right.  So that is a very big issue and one that does bear exploring.

The question of where is the right place to explore it is a good one though.

I know that two years ago when I first found this site, if it was a how to use site I would never have gotten clean.  So I see both sides of the issue, and am not going to stand in  judgement on anyone here. It was the open, nonjudgemental stance of this forum that let me decide on my own that it was time to admit I was an addict and that I wanted to get clean.  Now that I am in severe pain again and have to take meds occassionally I have this place to post about it, to keep me honest and keep me from going back into the out of control abuse I was in a year or so ago.

Anyway, my two cents. I am just really relieved my husband got the job and pray every day that I stay clean.

WW

[Thomas02]

So, the hubby beat the hair test! I bet it had something to do with White Magic ... I can see you're a useful person to know.

Thomas