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Methadone withdrawal

Just looking for support with my methadone withdrawal.
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Methadone is one of the worst Synthetic opiates out here, so there will be ups and downs. It takes time for it to physically get out of all the cells, muscles, organs and bones. The Brain chemistry takes the longest. You had been using for many yrs, so this part su..ks for us that have used too long.
Try you hardest to keep yourself re-directed and just tell yourself that you are HEALING..physically, mentally and spiritually. I will not even mention out here how long my physical took, let along my mental..However, it did take the mental more then a yr or so. I did c/t 3 meds and each one hit different areas of the brain in one way, and hit other neurotransmitters the same in another way. I can tell you what drug hit what areas, but I am sure you know. I was on a upper, downer and a all a rounder. Ha!  My anxiety and anxiousness was on the moon and I was still rocking back in fourth at 40days. I felt like I was in outer space and nothing seemed real in my own world. Each day there was a new Light, we just do not see or feel that at first but others can tell. The re-bond pain will take its toll. The enorphines (pain receptors) are clearing out toxins everywhere, and it will take time for them to produce the natural chem to help relive the pain. I had more pain on my methadone then I did off, but it took some time for me to feel no pain all over.. My Dr told me back then, that as the brain heals all those receptors & transmitters, they will send off false singles to the body. He called it "Somatic Syndrome".  Also, being that I c/t a Bezo with mine, that was one more reason the anxiety was on the moon. All of this affects the Nervous System and this takes time to heal too. Time, Time and Time is becoming a nasty word out here..Ha!!  By the time I had many, many months in, I was so mad and thought I would of felt SO much better, I felt "Hopeless" too, but I was getting better, it just did not seem so. The good day will come and when it does it will stick around. The roller-coaster will shut down,  then you might be on top of the ferriswheel looking down. Your feet will hit the ground and the park will close up for good. We just have to be careful because that monkey can jump right back on our backs. CIK used to call recovery, like peeling layers off of a onion. I heard them say that, on one of my Christians shows just the other day. Someone said on here back in 2012, "Do not tell you God how tough the Storm is, tell the Storm how tough your God is", something like that..lol=Lots of Love.
As far as the sleep goes, well that will take Time too. Make sure you have the room cool and dark. Turn off all lights including blinking ones. Put some lavender in your sheets & blankets when you wash them and put them on the bed. The smell will help relax you. Try not to fight it. A day came, months later and all I could do is sleep. I called it my catch-up sleep. (:  Hang in and keep the Faith up, one day all of this will be behind you. The H was more natural, so it does detox out faster, but it is a harder craving. Trust us, you will get better!!!!!!! Keep us updated!
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Hearing how positive you are and how good you seem to feel gives me a little hope.  I know it will eventually pass but I want it gone already!  I can manage the emotions half decently. Bu can also manage with broken up sleep...I went through that with all my pregnancies too so I'm not a stranger to it.  Lol. Bits mostly just the physical stuff and the difficulty in javjng with functioning that's presenting the most problems.  I find it incredibly hard to go to work not to mention being productive.  I also find it difficult to care for my kids and all of my home duties.  That makes me feel  like a bad mother and a bad fiancé, a bad woman all around.  And that directly effects my self esteem which also in turn effects my mood and out look on things.  I try to tell myself it's not my fault and I'll get through it.  My fiancé is being stretched thin.  He's a wonderful man and doesn't complain but I can see its wearing on him which upsets me and makes me feel shame, guilt, embarrassment, and a lot of other uncomfortable feelings.  I don't know...I wanna try and get some sleep though.  Have a good night.  Thanks for the prayers and support from you and everyone else also.  
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Hi Jen.....well as you can see this drug is very cyclic and your traped in a cycle now.....just know you will cycle out of it just like you cycled into it it can last a hour 5 hours or even a day.....I wish there was a way to get around this but there is not....you just have to go threw it to get to the other side....I t will get better I promise you....even when it dont feel like it every day your not using is a victory...how are you sleeping??? no sleep or broken sleep makes it harder  try a nice hot soak in epsom salt 1/2 hour b/4 bed...you sound like your eating right that helps to....just know your doing everything you can to get well you should start having more good days then bad your sorta got to ''fake it until you make it'' until then    keep posting for support where here for you
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Thanks.  I take hot baths but haven't been using Epsom salt.  I'll have to go get some tomorrow.  Sleep is ehhh.  Pretty broken but I can feel the sleep improving for the most part.  Every once in a while I have a super bad night. It reminds me of how broken my sleep was while I was pregnant. Lol.  I do take melatonin ever night so I'm not sure if it's helping but I do it anyway.  Today was my first day of a 10 day stretch at work which I'm dreading but I'll make it through one way or another.
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Hi Jen,
So, if I am reading this right, you have 5 kids to take care of?? Plus you are working at this point? Do you have any kind of sick time or vacation time you can take for a few days or a week??
I really feel for you, but in one way it does keep you busy and your mind re-directed. There are some open meetings that you can take the kids too.

Are you taking the clonidine during the day too?? I would knock it back to just at night. I did not even take that until I had 22days of high, high anxiety and no sleep and I could only take it at night. They did give us some med called Buspar and it is not addicting. It is to help with the anxiety. It does not work when you are in full blown detox, but it will kick in and help later. I ended up quitting them both after 40-60days. Try taking some good Magnesium, Potassium, Calcium and D3. These will help relax the muscles & help with sleep too. Just keep your head up, keep your Faith and we will be Praying for you as well.
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Yes 5 kids and a full time job.  Not only a full time job but we are short handed so I am doing 2.5x the work I usually do.  S@cks bad.  The kids are good, the baby can be tough cause she's 9 months and crawling all over the place.  Lol.  My fiancé is a good support but he has a very good job and when he has to work he has to work...he does a lot from home though.  I don't have leave left.  I took 3 days my fist week off methadone and I took a ton of sick leave when I had the baby which left me nothing.  My vacation is exhausted too for the most part.  I work for the government and my leave builds up with every paycheck but I was off my last week on methadone for a vacation we planned last year and now we get married 8/6 so we have a Bahamas cruise for a week starting 8/7.  I think I have 15 hours left but I'm trying to save them for emergencies.  Had I planned better I wouldn't have taken a 16 week maternity leave.  Or I would have cold turkied it while I'm leave.  They would not taper me till 3 months post partum.  I was down to 7mg when I got pregnant but they stopped my taper due to pregnancy.  She was an unexpected blessing...she is the result of one days missed birth control during a weekend trip we took alone.  Anyway...I went back up to 35 mg by the end of my pregnancy due to growing withdrawals as she grew.  I even talked to my high risk pregnancy doctors to try to continue my taper but they were very concerned about my pregnancy if I tapered so I reluctantly listened to them and kept myself comfortable.  Anyway, I'm getting off topic.  I took a lot of Advil liquid gels today and I'm feeling bad but better than the last 2 days.  I didn't know about the vitamins...thanks for the info, I will get them tonight. Nice been taking melatonin and a normal multi vitamin but thats it.  I've been so desperate I considered the kratom or lopamine (Imodium). However I did a lot or research and learned they are addictive so I decided against it.  I don't wanna do anything that will prolong my withdrawal.  I just want it to end.  My biggest fear at this point is still being sick for my wedding and honeymoon that's a short 3.5 weeks away.
Also...meetings...I'm very familiar with meetings.  I am reluctant because I see my patients and past patients at mertings every time I go.  I take patients to meetings during the day so I do get exposure.  I have friends in 12 step meetings who I talk to from my 3 years of involvement in meetings but hey don't know about my methadone or taper.  I shared I was on suboxone In a meeting in 2007 after 2.5 years clean.and was treated poorly by most people and told my clean time didn't count.  Most turned their backs on me.  I hung in there but let to myself and didn't hang out before or after meetings anymore  till my sponsor relapsed then I stopped meetings for the most part..  I was totally involved...sponsor, home group, service work, chairing mertings, etc.  I live in a small town so it's hard because meetings are small and the same people go to every meeting (literally). I was forced to switch to methadone with my first pregnancy and nobody in NA knows that.  I would like to try some AA when I get more stable physically as AA seems more spiritual and serious in my area. I have gone to Aa before due to few meetings here but I preferred NA before.
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CIK hit it right on the nail.
It will take TIME & PATIENCE!!  Recovery will Crawl at first and then the Baby Steps, soon you will be taking Bigger and Better Steps. I have almost 4yrs in and I finally have the best energy I have had in a very long time..NOW, that does not mean it will take you this long. I had a Heart Attack and have 2 stents put in and I lost most of my Family when I had 18 months in, so that right there set me back mentally & physically. Just stay in the Day!!
You are getting better each and every day, but we want BIGGER results because that is the Addicts thinking. I promise YOU will get that energy back and when you do it will be the best you have ever felt. Hope is Faith and do not let that go!
Hang in!!!
Vickie
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Well another crappy day.  I hurt all over.  I went to sleep at 1130 pm and I woke up at 1230, 230, 430, 530 and laid there till 630 when I got out of bed for hr day.  Went to church at 915am then went with my fiancé to take our 5 kids to Hershey park (amusement park). That was horrible.  We got there around 11-1115 and I left by 1245.  He worst part was the physical pain from being on my feet.
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Feeling like a slug and aching all over is part of the process, Jen.  Don't let it get you discouraged.  Have you tried some ibuprofen or Tylenol for your aches and pains?  How about an Epsom Salts bath?  That will really help because you need the magnesium in the salts and it will also draw out toxins at the same time.
Your honeymoon cruise is a whole month away and you'll feel different by then.  It's hard not to think about the future but we have to re-train our brains to stay in "this 24 hrs".  We're only given enough grace and strength for one day....then we tackle the next day when it comes.
Even just a little walking (even if it's in your house) will help things along as you heal.  2 WHOLE WEEKS is good!!!  You are going to turn a corner before too long.  Keep talking to us, ok?
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I'm trying.  I hunk I feel more hopeless today than I have at all so far.  I've been able to keep a very positive outlook until now.  I guess in my head today was going to be a turning point but I feel worse today than I have so far.  And it's out of nowhere because I go from feeling great 1 day to like I'm during the next.  How does that work?'  I know addicts are impulsive and want instant gratification but this *****.  It also ***** cause in my head I've been clean for 4.5 years because I got off heroin and on the clinic but now I feel like a string out junkie trying to get clean again cause of how the methadone withdrawal has me feeling.  And now I'm also feeling like methadone was a HUGE mistake.  I didn't have many options when I got on it...I got pregnant in suboxone in 2007 and the made me switch.  However when I relapsed in 2012 I wish I had quit the clinic and my job and gone to treatment for 30 days instead.  This *****.  
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Keep it up , your doin great, Everyday is one closer to being free. somedays are harder then the next , but you got this look how far you have made it
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Hi Jen  hey it has been a wile you still with us     please post to let us know how your doing
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hey jen.....sorry it tok me so long to get back to you  but I have been really realy sick with the flu....anyways so your at a 5....that is to be expected but at least your making progress  as for the tummy ishues try some yogurt with pro/biotiics and eat a couple a day this will really help the leg aches are also normal  this drug just dont like to let go of you .....just keep your eyes on the prize and you will overcome this with time.....you and your husband should take time to pray over this when a husband and wife pray together it is powerful  ...me and Kat do all the time and it has been life changing....anyway keep us up to date you will recover I promise
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I'm glad your feeling better!  That's one Hong we have never done together is pray out loud aside from at meals and of course with everyone else at church.  I like that.  I'm still getting better slowly.  My eating habits got all messed up on our cruise so my big thing now is to work on getting back to my healthy eating because I am also definitely a food/sugar addict and for me it's all or nothing.  And that directly impacts how I feel physically and emotionally.  Anyway thanks for always checking.  It feels good to know people care.  I tried posting a new thread the other day but it never showed up.  It was kinda long so I got real frustrated and didn't sign on for a little.
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hi Jen ....welcome back home....im so happy for you congrats on getting married and it sounds like everything went off well......I have been trying to get my wife on a cruse forever but she has a phobia about drowning so no luck there....you couldent have picked a better honeymoon.....those ships are very relaxing ...all our friends have been on them ....where the odd couple out....anyways im so glad you where able to enjoy yourself in spite of the methadone withdrawal your progress is doing very good....im also happy to hear your a Christian with the power of God and threw prayer  those that believe do a lot better then those that dont I will content to pray for your recovery....thanks for posting to keep us up to date  on a scale of 1 to 10   10 being energy level back to where it is suppose to be where do you stand???...and what if anything as far as withdrawal symptoms are you still feeling???  let us know keep posting for support
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As for energy level...maybe 5.  My energy level is pretty horrible most days but some are pretty good.  Withdrawal...some days my legs still ache for no reason.  Other than that I'm good.  I sneeze a lot, my eyes are sensitive to light and my digestive system still seems out of wack.  However I'm wondering if some of things are normal...the light sensitivity Miya be normal and the sneezing.  The GI stuff may be me regular who knows.  Lol.  I started heroin at age 13 and got on suboxone at age 19 then methadone at age 23 and I'm 31 now.  Although It's not as long as ally of people have used its a long time considering my age.  I have never been totally opiate free since age 13 until now so it's hard to say what's normal life without drugs.  I believe he leg aches are still withdrawal but I'm not sure about he other things I mentioned.  Also...my face has become very oily compared to before.  My complexion itself isn't too bad but my face feels gross and greasy by maybe 1-2pm   Is hat normal?  I always had a nice complexion even when using and my face has never been oily like this before.  It's kinda embarrassing at my age.
Thanks for the congratulations, well wishes and prayers.  Maybe you can go on a cruise with some of your friends who go?  It's definitely something you should try, it's amazing!
Hey Jen , glad to see your back, congrats btw, the stomach thing takes awhile i kept asking the same thing, i even asked my doctor a few times, but all is returning to normal , that was the longest symptom i had. it started to get better around the 90 day mark, sneezing was bad for me , but to be honest i dont remember when that stopped it just did , and i never paid any mind to the fact that it went away.
my energy started to come around about day 40 or 50 i do recall, i do alot of physical work, so i had to just force myself and roll with it, but it in all i ended up starting to work out as soon as i could and to this day i think like 109 or something im still at the gym going at it.  around the 50 day mark i did get muscle twitches in my knee , it would go on for hours but i just realized that no longer happens, i guess its all part of healing . Just keep doing what you have been , and it will all go away.  I started to think i had something wrong with my stomach, only bad thing that came out of my detox , well i guess its a good thing is i found out i have high blood pressure.
i refuse to take the meds tho, i have this fear of pills now its weird. ive been working with my therapist about this.
well have a blessed day .
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Gnarly she is on her cruise till the 14th was just reading the posts
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Hey Jen  how goes it...we havent heard from you in a wile please post when you get the time...........Gnarly..............
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Well I'm home and life is good.  Our honeymoon was great but I can say that the lack of energy and exhaustion did take a toll on it.  It still wasn't bad and he wasn't upset but I felt bad because I wanted to do more and experience more than we did but I just couldn't.  We got to sit on the beach in the Bahamas and see some amazing comedy shows, have some amazing meals and watch some other shows.  Most of all we got to relax a lot and just be happy in one another's company and enjoy time alone without our 5 kids surrounding us.  We did miss them all terribly by mid cruise but we also enjoyed the break!  Our wedding was amazing.  Everyone enjoyed themselves.  The pastor was 15 minutes late for the wedding and gave us quite a scare.  Lol. He got lost.  Yes gnarly I do believe in God.  We are very involved in a conservative Christian church.  I look up to you and your wife for making it through all the storms and having your marriage survive so long.  I admire that.  Anyway, time for bed so I can make it back to work tomorrow morning...in 9 hours.  Yuck!  
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Congrats on the wedding Jen, 6 weeks so happy for you. Wish you the best on your trip. If you get a chance update us.
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Hi Jen...well a big congrats on getting married and what a great gift your giving your new husband....a clean you!!!!  me and Kat have been together for 36yrs and married for 33yrs so where lifers  if I had to do it all over I would pic her again we have shared a good life together we raised 5 children and now have 4 grandchildren even threw the tuff stuff we weatherd the storm... try not to get to overwhelmed with all this  your emotions are still fragile at this point in recovery so try not to have to many expectation's  just let go of all the little stuff and enjoy a day that you wont forget....I dont know if you believe in God or not but if you put him first  learn how to forgive...never go to bed angree with each other  you will prosper  if you get a chance go to my home page and read my journal  ''where is god in all this''...try to just relax and enjoy your cruse  most of them offer massage's it would be great for you and your husband to share one and there worth every penny....im so happy to here your sleeping threw the night  it took me 2 months to get anything close to a good nights sleep so your a head of the game  my wife and I will say a special prayer for you.....that you will prosper and that God bless you abundantly.....  let us know how things turn out when you get back your friend Mark..............
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Thanks!  I sure will get back with everyone next Sunday 8/14 at the latest unless I discover that I have phone service on board.  I'm feeling okay.  It was a rough couple days cause I've had a lot on my plate but emotionally I'm feeling good just hurting physically.  On the bright side today is 6 weeks!!  Yay!!!
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I'm sorry I've been so wrapped up with getting stuff together for our wedding.  Tomorrow is our big day...22 hours to be exact!  I'm doing okay but yesterday and today took a lot out of me with setting up the travels and chairs and decorating.  I hurt.  I had been feeling pretty good before that though.  I'm sleeping great.  I had 2 nights now where I didn't wake up at all!!  I'm at 6 weeks today!!!  My complexion has changed for the worse.  I've never had a greasy face/complexion but I do now and u can't stand it.  Did anyone else have that issue?  We leave for a cruise tomorrow and won't be back till next Sunday so I don't anticipate posting because I don't believe I'll have service.  Thanks for all the support!
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HELLO.....Jen, how are you feeling??

Congrats on your time and your wedding. This is all great news.

I never had Headaches like I did coming off my 3 pills, but I was told that the brain has billions of wiring and this all had to adjust back. The body aches come from this too, as my Dr called it Somatic Syndrome, which is your brain sending false singles to your body. Also, we have that rebound pain for awhile, while your Endorphins are clearing out. Hang in...YOU will get past this.

Have a wonderful time on your Vacation too. Come back and give us a Update!!!!
God be with...
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Hey Jen where are you???? please post to let us know how your doing............gnarly
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Hi Jen....well the pain your feeling is from the methadone that leaches into your bones over time   it slowly comes out as time goes by....just know there will be a end to it your doing really good for a little over 30 days clean your 1/3 of the way there if it goes the whole 90 days like it did for me  just hang in there and post to let us know how your doing
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Also while I'm thinking of it...my wedding is 1.5 weeks away on 8/6...next Saturday.  Sooo....I'm going on my honeymoon which is a cruise to the Bahamas from 8/7 to 8/14 (late) and i won't be online at all so don't get worried if I don't post.  I will update everyone once I'm back though.  I'll try to remind all of you next Friday.  I will definitely be okay and clean so no worries there!
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You know i never had pain issues or any accidents that should cause pain...never even broken a bone!  Lol.  But some days I wonder if this is what my life will be...pain forever.  I keep trying to tell myself it's just the withdrawals but some days it makes me wonder.  I'm only 31 so it darn sure better not be old age yet.  Lol.  But I'm run down a lot and get tired easy and have minor aches and pains that won't go away.  They are tolerable but annoying and just make me question if this is my existence now that I'm off methadone. I know better but the thoughts still get in my mind from time to time....
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I'm doing okay.  I have 31 days today!!'  Yay!!!  Feeling better by the day now (for the most part).  Emotionally good, great really.  I have to worst headache I've ever had in my life today which s u c k s but such is life.  My complexion is bad now and I sweat and get chills but I'm alright.  I stopped taking my clonidine and I'm sleeping well.  I only wake up 2-3x a night and it takes maybe 30 minutes to fall back asleep but overall not too horrible.
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Hi Jen  just got home from a looooooong monday but wanted to see how your doing.....you mentioned the headaches.....God I thought I had a brain tumor they where so bad....it is just one more thing....this is the drug that just keeps on giving....it s u c k s but like all of your symptoms it will pass   try a cool washcloth over your eyes in a dark room  the otc pain relevers may help  excedrin worked the  best for me....this stuff is really dragging you threw the ringer  but I promise sooner or later it will let up....we just dont know when.....it your at 1/2 your capacity your doing better then I was...I wish I had a magic wand I could make it go away with but you just have to go threw it.....both vicky and I had a ruff detox so we both know what it is like  just take time for yourself  like a nice hot soak after work.....treat yourself to a message it does wonders for both the mind and sprite....I know it may not seam like it but your beating this thing  and even a bad day puts you one day closer to getting well...just know where here for you...my heart goes out to you and I pray for you daily keep positng for support and when you find the time post to let us know how your doing
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Hi Jen.....well your doing it 1 day at a time....your scheduled at work sounds like mine....we put over 400 new companys on and it is up to me a 3 guys to make there websites blend with ours and as always it needs to be done yesterday....it is hard to come home after a 10 hour grind on a computer and still make time for this  but some how I manage.....just know what your going threw is a very typical withdrawal from this drug....it is not so much the severity of the withdrawal but the length of time it takes to recovery  every day you dont use is a victory and just know your on the right path  with time you will get better.....defiantly get the epsom salt for the bath it will really help with the body aches just a cup ful to a nice hot soak it will also give you magnesum that is a great sleep aid....try not  to get discouraged a positive attitude is your best friend going threw this   I remeber all to well just how lousy and tired and achey I felt for months but today it is a distant memory  every time I get another year clean I take my coin to the clinic and show the staff that with some will power and perseverance you can over come methadone  as for work  just pace yourself  keep posting for support
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Thanks for your continued support.  I appreciate your ability to make time to come on medhelp and do what you do despite your hectic work schedule, time for yourself and your family.  I agree so much it's not the severity but more hr length.  I can function just only at about half my capacity.  It just stinks that it won't seek to end.  Anyway, as always thanks and have a good day!!
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Calling Jen..Hello!!!

How are you doing???
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I'm doing...sleep gradually improves day by day but the discomfort during the day doesn't seem to improve.  And I have no injuries or reason for the discomfort.  Horrible heada he today.  No desires to use whatsoever but I'm losing steam.  I don't view mean as far as recovery I just mean as far as life goes in general.  It's getting worse by the day and I believe it's due to work related stuff.  We are very very very short handed and they depend on me for everything and are mandating me to overtime at my job.  I'm seriously considering walking out but I have a very good government job so I don't wanna. I'm sure the withdrawal makes matters worse and causes me to be a bit hypersensitive.  But I feel like my job is taking everything from me and j have nothing left for me or my family after work which is horrible.
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How you doin Jen , keep truckin along your makin it moment by moment.
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Thanks!  You too!  How have you been doing?  I'm the same.  Sleep is improving but days are the same which is not very good.  Still no cravings or thoughts of using just lots of physical discomfort. No have a vicious headache today.  How are you feeling?
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