If he has been clean for 10 days he is probably near the end of the detox and just needs to stay strong now. The next phase is the mental one and he will need you to help encourage him. Is he still using any other opiates? It is really wonderful if he did not use in 10 days --- I can't imagine what he!! he went through during that 10 days but he needs to be congratulated. I would find him an NA or AA meeting and get him to it - even if you have to drive him. What an accomplishment. All the best. Oh, keep reading the other posts and have him read them. It helps
WOW!! that is fantastic that he has been able to stay clean. Unbelievable. You do need to tell him how proud you are, and how proud we addicts are. We know first hand how difficult it is.
Morphine is an opiate it is a natural opiate. There are also synthetic opiates (man made). Those are demerol, dilaudid, fentanyl, oxycodone (percocet), hydrocodone (vicoden,lortab, norco),codeine, oxycontin etc. They all work the same way in the brain. They attach to pain receptors in the brain and give you a euphoric high. Almost as good as an orgasm (sorry), but this high lasts for several hours (at first). After while, your body needs more and more to reach the same euphoric level. And after so long, it does nothing for you, no matter how much you take. When you stop,your body gets really REALLY pisssed off at you. Headache, diarrhea, nausea, vomiting, no appetite, muscle aches, restless legs, hot and cold flashes with sweating, NO energy at all, anxiety, panic, hopelessness, despair.....this lasts about7-10 days. Then,its just the low energy, depression, and fear of how you are going to get through life w/o your drug.
Definitely find him an NA (narcotics anonymous) or HA(heroin anonymous) meeting. There will be people who can relate to him, and he will hear their stories and in turn hear alot of similarities about himself. He will meet people and find resources to stay clean.
Well I found out last night that he has been off the morphine for 10 days (11 days today) but was taking suboxone in small doses until 2 days ago. Should I be upset that he didn't tell me about the suboxone? He had the hot/cold sweats and twitched all night. He woke up this morning and barely had the energy to leave the house.
I'm terrified that he will re-lapse. Should I call him today and check on him and encourage him or should I back off and let him make his own decisions/actions? Does anyone have any recommendations on what you would want your loved ones to do for you in this stage of getting clean?
hey, so it's to here that you've jumped...........oh!!!!!! the morphine for me was the background drug, and the roxi's and percs were for breakthrough pain but they were really for me to get high off the springboard of morphine. And how I got! I tried to melt the extended release, but I don't use needles and snorting it doesn't get a person off. The only thing with the suboxone is that he is still self-prescribing his therapy. Maybe he really wants it to change and just made an independent decision. I hope for you that this is so.
My tip to you: leave him alone.........he got himself here, let him get himself out. You'll feel when a real change does or doesn't come.
I had to go through 4 shoulder surgery s and I wound up in much more pain than I was ever in before I had the surgery s done I had a full right shoulder replacement done and a parochial on my left and now the pain is much worst than it ever was before I had the surgery s done and now I am having vary bad lower back pain so bad that it will drop me to my knees at times but because of the surgery s I went through on my shoulders there is no way I will have any kind of back surgery s done but with the pain medications a person must learn how to control the medications and not let them control you !! When I had my shoulder surgery s done the doctor would only do one at a time so it took two years to have all four of them done and by my forth surgery my doctor had me taking up to 8 Loratabs a day and I was in a lot more pain than ever after the surgery s and at the same time I was starting to have lower back pain that would drop me to my knees and it is a constant pain but because of the way my pain in my shoulders where after all the surgery s there was just no way I would have any back surgery done so he sent me to a pain clinic and he started me out on 15 Mg. Morphine Sulfate and 3 10/500 Mg. Loratabs and over about 2 years I was up to 100 Mg. X 2 a day and the Loratabs I am still taking 10/500 Mg. But I now take four a day and my doctor is quite pleased at how I control the use of them because I have been on the two medications for close to 6 years now and I have not asked him for a dosage increase for about the last 3 years now and he has told me that he wished that all his patient could control the medications like I have done and where I live they are real strict on giving pain medications out every month I have to bring them into his office so he can count them and I get drug tested between 4 to 5 times a year and he has told me that I am the longest he has ever been able to keep the same Patient and he had told me that everyone that walks through his door he has to drop them because they either fail the drug test or they have the wrong pill count with them and he has told me that I am the only one he sees that comes in each month and I am over on my pill count by 1 or more days and he has asked me how I do it and he wishes that he could teach his other patients how to control the medications and not let them control them. But I started at a low dose and had it increased until my pain level was rite about a 5 on the scale of 1 to 10 and I have been able to keep it rite about there and I have told him I do it like it is directed but every now and the I do skip a dose for a day and then go back to the way it is prescribed and I've told him that sometimes I do skip a dose purposely to lower my tolerance then go back to my regular dose then if I do get a few days ahead I may take 3 in a day at about 8 hour apart but never a double dose at any one time doing them that way it keeps my pain level down and I have always been over on my pill count at the end of every month over the last 5 or 6 years now . And I have been honest with my doctor and he seems to be pleased that I can control the use of the medications and that I've always been over on my pill count every month for such a long time now. But that is how I manage my pain care and it works for me and my doctor is vary happy that I have not asked him for a dosage increase for so many years now .
Russtye thts great tht u have been able to do tht u must not have an addictive personality . But for addicts its very hard to control ourselves even if we have a legitimate reason to b taking the pills. I wish I could b like tht bit I'm not. I just had surgery and in order for me not to relapse I had my husband control my pills and give them to me bc I would take them all in one day. I'm happy for u.
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