My doc offered me methadone

[coconuts27]

When I told my psych about my addiction, he suggested I take methadone. I take 2-3 norco 10/325 per day. Isnt methadone a little worse than what Im doing now, or would it help? I really dont want any new habits, I want to quit. I have heard bad things about methadone. Any ideas?

[confused456]

HOLY ****!!!! DON'T DO IT. YES, WAY WAY WORSE!!!!!!!
PLEASE DO NOT DO THAT. I AM BEGGING YOU!!!!!!!!!

[confused456]

Go into wait2long's journals......PLEASE......she is on my friends list if you don't already have her as a friend. PLEASE

[coconuts27]

Thank you! Thats what I thought. I knew he was a quack. Maybe I need a new doc. lol

[confused456]

OMG......so glad you know that!! I HATE when Dr's do that. Yes, maybe you really do need a new Dr.! I really wish you the best of luck. There is no shame and trying and trying again, as long as you do not stop trying!! Best of luck to you.

[lucyred68]

hun, you really need a new dr.  that guy is a QUACK, QUACK, QUACK!!!!!  i did the wd thing from methadone. instead of the 7 days or so from norco, it was 31 days and counting with the methadone.  done both, so i know from experience.  avoid done at all costs.

Lucy

[coconuts27]

Wow! Thanks guys. I read some of her journal, very touching. Its so sad how bad things happen to good people. I am so glad I found this site. I was feeling so alone and hopeless. I have faith that I can do this, and I will. I know it wont be easy. Reading everyones posts gave me an idea of what to expect. Im gonna keep trying. Thank you

[confused456]

You are not alone at all and I am so glad that you took the time and read some of it. Please, yes, keep trying. We are here when you need us!!

[lucyred68]

you can do it hun, and we will be here to help you through this.
Lord, i pray that you give coconuts the strength needed to end this addiction.  in Jesus name, amen

my prayers will continue to be with you in this.

Luv, Lucy

[Penelope14]

I got an idea for you? Dont get started on methadone, as it only brings with it a even worse much uglier addiction, I was talked into it from a dr, & I shall never forgive myself for falling for all that mumbo-jumbo about how if you taper slow it shall not be bad at all, yeah right, tell that to my body as I toss & turn every night, & oh did I mention the sweats? & I will not leave out the worst of it, its the lack of energy, thats the worst for me,ugh, no fun, so do what you gotta do, but exclude methadone. Just my opinion. Take Care Penelope

[toxictome]

I agree w/all the others...RUN>..the other way!!! Time for a NEW Dr.  :D

[coconuts27]

Yeah, the worst thing is, with my crappy insurance, this is the only doc that will see me while I'm using. I cant believe how hard this is! I started using coke because I needed energy and to lose weight. I knew better but I thought I was stronger. I never really thought the pills were a problem because I didnt take that many, but if I gotta go thru this without em, its a problem. I was really weak today, I gave up way to quick, but tomorrow is a new day. I set myself up for a challenge because I think so much about how I'm gonna feel. In the bathroom, hurtin...I used to be so much stronger. My new plan is to wake up and take a seroquil instead of a norco. Im gonna turn of my phones and give my ex the key. I figure if I can sleep thru the first couple days I'll be ok.

[Sael]

Just an alternative perspective here. I'm on methadone and live a full productive life. I have come down 75mls of methadone over a period of 6 months. My doctor and I do it very slowly and at MY pace. I haven't had ANY problems on methadone.

I don't know why there's such a resistance to it here. I know many people who have taken it and come off it without problem. If you taper it properly and go very slowly you should have no problems with it.

I've said this before: I think that partially the reason for the dislike of methadone is the ignorance surrounding it. If you quit methadone at 40 mls cold turkey, for example, you're going to go into terrible withdrawal.

I've also heard that docs in the States force people to taper on THEIR schedule. Is this the case with you coco? What exactly has your doctor offered you?

[coconuts27]

my doctor referred me to a methedone clinic. I disagree because I dont feel that I use enough to require methedone. Lots of people have told me to stay away. I'm going to try to taper off the norcos or see if I can sleep thru the wds.

[kim715]

Methodone is never the answer! All it does is prolong your problem and create a whole lot more for you in the interim. I had a 15-20 a day extra strength vicodin addiction for about 9 months,when I tried to stop I couldn't stand the sick. I wasn't getting high off of them anymore,they didn't even help my backpain anymore. A friend in the same boat turned me onto the methodone clinic. Today starts day 8 for me comming off of 25 mg. per day. The thing is I had gone down to 5mg. at one time and tried to quit, the sick does not compare to how I felt when I tried to stop the pills,It's 100 times worse. If I would have stopped the pills instead of leaning on the methodone by day 8 it wouldn't be so bad. Withdrawl from methodone is torture.I stayed on it for a year,now I wish I never heard the word methodone. I think it should be illegal to treat opiate addictions with methodone. By going on methodone you're not getting clean you're just switching your drug of choice. The same friend who told me about the clinic has left and went back to the clinic about 4or5 times now,all because of financial reasons,it cost 95 dollars a week,however every time she left she was right back to the pills and every time she had to take more to combat the dopesick you feel after being on methodone.I have got eight days in and from what I hear I have a long road ahead of me. I wish someone would have warned me not to do it.Goodluck and Godbless.

[Shotrock]

Had a Doctor like yours scarey stuff..... This guy should have his license suspended...  I'm glad Meth worked for Sael, but 2-3 Norcos a Day ( I was doing 20 ) is not an addiction that calls for Meth ( omg ).. You would be putting Gasoline on a fire, not reccomended...... No No No.  Run away from this crazy doctor as fast as your legs will take you........  taper your Norco's to 1 a day, then schedule a couple days for C/T... You'll be fine..... Time to take your Life back!  Good Luck.. Shot Rock Day22

[mr.lucky66]

The Canadian doesn't understand why there is such resistence here about methadone? Because People here have suffered(and are suffering) big time trying to get off methadone through marathon withdrawl sessions. This is exactly why I hate these lazy incompetant MD's who are creating monsters by giving hydrocodone users methadone some of which get hooked for life. Methadone, there's no future in it"

[Sael]

my name is Sael. And yes, in Canada we don't have that kind of torture policy that you just described in the States. In my country we go extremely slow and have good success rates. If only the US medical community understood methadone a bit more then maybe people wouldn't suffer  'big time' as you call it.

What I'm saying is: If you have a methadone professional who knows how to administer the drug and is extremely knowledgeable about it then you don't have these massive problems like the ones you're describing.

Don't call me THE Canadian. It's insulting. You can bloody well see my name right there.

[wait2long]

no offense here...just a few questions, ok?

i understand that methadone DOES help addiction, to a POINT, it does eliminate any withdrawals from previous drug of choice, it does stop cravings, it does allow you to lead a normal life without the "addictive lifestyle"....BUT..my questions are..

do you plan to ever stop taking methadone?
or
do you plan on taking it for life?
and if you dont mind me asking, what dose are you on?
will you go up in dose or stay where you are for the amount of time on it whether it be a year or for life?

what IS the policy in Canada compared to the States, what the difference?

there ARE a few people here who have tapered on their own, very slow taper, a year or more for some, they still suffered.  i see no way around NOT suffering when getting off methadone, i was on a fairly low dose 20-30 mgs a day, and couldnt handle the withdrawals whether it was a slow taper or just cold turkey, i could not do it, the pain was un-believeable regardless of the way i did it...i even transitioned from meth to suboxone and STILL had to suffer...please explain to me how this is done painlessly?  i mean NO disrespect...just conversation and really wanting to know...ok?

also i have to add i eventually started abusing methadone, i found the more i took, the better i felt and if i added a benzo with it, that was it for me...i had to get off or die.
now that i am off methadone and on suboxone, i can sure tell that i was high from methadone, i really wasnt as normal feeling as i thought i was...( i was abusing on occasion ONLY when i could afford it, which really wasnt that often)
where i live there are NO methadone clinics, i thought i was doing myself a favor by buying it illegally to get off oxies, percs etc...i was wrong, WAY WRONG. (this is MY experience and situation with methadone, i know not everyone did what i did)

i am happy for you that you have stopped your addiction, that IS great!...but wonder if you will still be this happy when and if you decide to stop taking it....?

[Army220]

Dont do it.  That is like fighting fire with fire.  Get rid of that doc.  My doc put me on Clonidine and so far it has worked great!  Day 3 I am just alittle tired.  No leg shakes or nothing.  The Clonidine is cheap also (generic).  My doc used to moonlight a at detox center before he started his own practice here in Michigan

[mr.lucky66]

Sael, it doesn't matter what country you are in, There is no painless way to get off methadone unless you plan on staying on it for the rest of your life, which some do. You seem to think that if you taper slow enough you won't get sick. Wrong, The only people I've seen walk of done pain free are those who have had a powerfull spirtual experience and only 2 of them. I've kicked methadone many times in on different detox plans inpatient outpatient and no patient. A few times have been better that others but they all sucked and sucked for a long rime. There are no free rides off methadone. I'm glad to say I've been done free and dope free for several years and am interested in telling other methadonias the truth and to help them if I can. all the best

[Sael]

My happiness bugs you eh? I'm very happy. I'm not stoned out on methadone as has been suggested prior. I have a rich full life. I've transitioned down 75mls and still going without any really bad withdrawals. You know, maybe if doctors used methadone correctly in the states and there wasn't such a stigma attached to it then maybe more people would not be so afraid of it. I'm living proof. Never once did I say 'This works for everyone'. NEVER.

But yeah, it's working for me so I don't get why you need my every detail. Are you trying to find the magic secret as to why I am successful when so many people on here are so afraid of methadone and are unsuccessful?

The secret is a good doctor who knows the ins and outs of methadone, a positive attitude, reasonable reductions at the clients speed and determination, which I have in spades, taking it as directed and not abusing it, (I get carries for a week at a time), honesty and a good healthy psyche.

See? There's no big secret. No magic. Just a fantastic doctor and a great 'happy' frame of mind.

Just remember, your truth may not be mine. I have my own truth and my own ethic. I don't even consider myself an addict. I'm a human being. It's nice to have neat little categories to put people in but I don't subscribe to that. Doesn't mean you have to.

I just am having a successful experience with methadone. It hasn't been this terrible thing the majority of people here think it is.

The difference between the US and Canada regarding methadone is HUGE. First, and correct me if I'm wrong, but the majority of methadone is given in specific methadone clinics and some outlets won't give over 100mls (not a good strategy). Second, there are these quick detox programs using methadone whereby they wean you off like lightning (not a good strategy).  There may be more but jeesh, the ones I just mentioned are enough to ensure that methadone is viewed as a poor medication by many people.

And finally, a lot of doctors in the states have a moral view of methadone that it is just a substitute for heroin and so the way they think about people who use heroin sneaks over into the way they feel about methadone. Professionals in Canada do NOT view methadone in this manner, in fact, you don't have to go to some clinic to get it, you get it at a pharmacy like any other medication. So there's a negative mindset around methadone and it makes people feel guilty and so on and so forth.

I don't feel those negative things. I feel good and healthy. I feel valued by my community in which I work in and don't have this negative energy around me making me feel bad for taking methadone. To me it's a medication that I've made a promise to respect and follow my doctors advice and work together with him to ensure success.

What the **** does this statement have to do with anything?

but wonder if you will still be this happy when and if you decide to stop taking it....?

Are you going to tell me the answer to that? Or are you going to respect my experience? So far I feel that you don't. I mean, why state at the beginning of your post
that you're NOT being offensive if only to hide the offense in your words?

I'm happy. No sorry, I'm giggling, heh, changed my status. Are successful happy people not allowed here or something? Is there a problem with people who come on here who aren't suffering terribly?

[wait2long]

WOW!!! you DEFINATELY misinterpreted my post to you!  i was NOT trying to argue but thought i was asking some legitimate questions.
i think maybe YOU may be on the defensive here with me.  ever heard of having a discussion about something without going up in arms over it, apparently not.

i have NO EXPERIENCE with methadone clinic settings this does not apply to me, i was honest with you with MY experience with methadone. so is there a problem with asking about your "success" with methadone?
oh, and by the way, methadone IS available in pharmacies here also for pain patients, and it is an awful pain remedy at that too, advil works better.

i wanted to know YES! the secret you seem to posses when tapering off methadone, maybe "your blessed secret" might help someone here trying to get off methadone...
and if your going to tell me its all because of a doctor that writes out a prescription, i wont  believe it!~

so by YOUR response i guess i have MY answers...

whats the sense in coming here to say how great methadone is, and how it can be so easy to get off, when you cant or wont share you "secret"?
maybe because there is NO secret, suffer(with a very slow taper) or stay on it for life.

and your happiness does not bug me, not one bit, i am not that type of person, i can feel joy for others when they have found their way, and i find THAT remark to be quite juvenile.
and i also stated that that was MY experience with methadone...never did i state it was yours also!
stop being so defensive with me and share you secret...
i asked nothing but questions that you ARE avoiding...

but i am also aware of your avoidance...its because your on methadone, i was happy as a clam when i was on it also-no secret there, yes...giggly, who wouldnt be.

and just in case you havent noticed.  the negative mindset comes from people on this forum that have been there, done that...you arent there yet...and who knows, maybe you never will be.

and your not an addict?  then why are you on methadone???  now thats a good one...i like that one...LMAO!  i think you should just stop taking methadone, tomorrow, just stop...
and for my last question on my previous post..you shall see for yourself...
yeah!  good luck with that one.

c-ya around.

[mr.lucky66]

Anyone who is in the first  few years of methadone may feel great. Any doc with minimal training can use methadone, it doesn't take an Eienstien to maintian an addict and keep him happy. There are thousands of people here in the states who feel just like you and go to the NAMA website, where they believe in Methadone for life.. It all just peachy until you want to Get off or when you get boored with it and get the bad high dose side effects. Methadone worked fine for me for the first few years and then it got ugly and I wanted to get off. That's when you really know you made a mistake when you endure months on end of symtoms regardless of what kind of taper you have. Don't you get it?, It has nothing to do with how you use it or taper methadone,it's when it's out of your system your gonna be ill for a good while and then you will wish you were still hooked on hydrocodone or something else much weaker. Methadone maintenence is not appropiate for vivodin addiction and it's a misuse. It was intended for hard core IV users as a treatment of LAST RESORT OR HARM REDUCTION. "Methadone, there's no future in it"

[wait2long]

couldnt have said it better myself...although i tried...

[sterling_silver]

Just some recent facts about Methadone. As of March 1st. It is now illegal in 22 counties in Florida, for any Pain Management Clinic to dispense Methadone to new patients for the treatment of drug addiction. All patients who are currently using Methadone are being tapered off it, or switched to a different drug. These counties have acted on their own because they don't want to wait for the bill to pass in the state legislature at the end of the year. The reason is because of how many deaths there have been attributed to the use of methadone. It is still legal to get it at a pharmacy, but no one carries it, because there are no longer any doctors prescribing it. I think the FDA has had it with methadone.
For the poster above. I would drop the FDA a NOTE about the Doctor who wants to put you on Methadone for a few pill a day habit. Thats like cutting off your leg to remove a pimple on your knee.    

[coconuts27]

Thanks everyone for your insight. I really didnt think methadone was the answer, but now I KNOW its not. I hate to minimize my habit because I know its a problem just trying to quit. I want to quit. I think that the best option for me is gonna be cold turkey. Im trying, but its so hard once it gets late in the day. I made it 28 hours without a pill, which is pretty good for me, but just gave up. I honestly think that methadone is a much bigger problem. Once I'm out of pills and can be left alone, I might be a little more successful. I am definately going to let my doc know about what he tried to do to me, if I didnt know any better he would have made my situation a hell of a lot worse. If I dont like what he says, I just might drop the fda a note.

[worried878]

Glad you made an informed decision...from what I have learned, i would never touch methadone....perhaps docs need more education on narcotics it would seem

[Becky102]

What's that about Florida?!!!  We live in the Tampa area and my husband has been on methadone for about 14 years.  He's just starting to taper down (120mgs to 100mgs) but we expect it will take a long time if he's even able to do it!  He gets his methadone prescribed from a pain clinic and fills it at the drug store.
He would be in a panic if I told him this.  It would be unconscionable to just cut off the methadone.  What drug are they replacing it with?  You're really scaring me here!

[sterling_silver]

Don't worry. It only applies to new patients. Not people who are already using it.

[confused456]

I am glad that you are choosing the wise choice here too. You can do this and we are here for you!!

[Sael]

WOW!!! you DEFINATELY misinterpreted my post to you!  i was NOT trying to argue but thought i was asking some legitimate questions.

---Then why did you feel the need to preface your post with 'I'm not trying to be offensive if you weren't saying things were offensive.'  WTH??

i think maybe YOU may be on the defensive here with me.  ever heard of having a discussion about something without going up in arms over it, apparently not.

--I'm not up in arms. I told you that methadone works for me and why. Big deal.

i have NO EXPERIENCE with methadone clinic settings this does not apply to me, i was honest with you with MY experience with methadone. so is there a problem with asking about your "success" with methadone?

--You did and I answered.

oh, and by the way, methadone IS available in pharmacies here also for pain patients, and it is an awful pain remedy at that too, advil works better.

--Why do you ask me something when you already have your mind made up about it? I really don't care about your opinion. I have my own life and ethic.

i wanted to know YES! the secret you seem to posses when tapering off methadone, maybe "your blessed secret" might help someone here trying to get off methadone...
and if your going to tell me its all because of a doctor that writes out a prescription, i wont  believe it!~

--See, I told you what the big secret is, which is not really a big secret and you reply with this nonsense.

so by YOUR response i guess i have MY answers...

--You already had YOUR answers. You just wanted to stir the pot so to speak. I've already told everyone on this forum my story. I don't need to keep telling it.

whats the sense in coming here to say how great methadone is, and how it can be so easy to get off, when you cant or wont share you "secret"?
maybe because there is NO secret, suffer(with a very slow taper) or stay on it for life.

--Like I said, what's the point of me talking when you 'already' have the answer. You're not willing to listen to me. You just want to make YOUR opinion known. I know most people on this forum dislike the use of methadone but ya know, for some people it really does work. Imagine that.

and your happiness does not bug me, not one bit, i am not that type of person, i can feel joy for others when they have found their way, and i find THAT remark to be quite juvenile.

--Then why are you mocking my future pain?

and i also stated that that was MY experience with methadone...never did i state it was yours also!
stop being so defensive with me and share you secret...
i asked nothing but questions that you ARE avoiding...

--I haven't avoided any questions. I answered them. There is NO big secret.

but i am also aware of your avoidance...its because your on methadone, i was happy as a clam when i was on it also-no secret there, yes...giggly, who wouldnt be.

and just in case you havent noticed.  the negative mindset comes from people on this forum that have been there, done that...you arent there yet...and who knows, maybe you never will be.

--Wow, you seem to think you know a lot about me. You have as much knowledge of me as is on the head of a pin and you have the nerve to tell me what I have and have not experienced. Nice person you are.

and your not an addict?  then why are you on methadone???  now thats a good one...i like that one...LMAO!  i think you should just stop taking methadone, tomorrow, just stop...

--For someone who doesn't want to come across as offensive you really are knocking yourself out. No, I don't consider myself an addict. Again, you are pushing your ideology down my throat. THAT'S immature.

and for my last question on my previous post..you shall see for yourself...
yeah!  good luck with that one.

--Oh you mean the part where you implied of my future pain? Like I said. You're not very nice. To sit here on an addiction forum and laugh at someone and mock them, wanting them to hurt is a real sign of a decent human being. NOT.

[sadinmichigan]

hey..no offense here as I said earlier..I realize alot don't willingly jump off 65mg of methadone..I had a unique situation and HAD NO CHOICE..and others get cut off for various reasons. The methadone clinics here at least the ones I have been to our dirty and make you feel worse about yourself than you already do..I have my opinion...you have yours..I will respect it..please respect mine and others..I will never tell anyone to go on methadone and do my best to deter them. Withdrawing from a pill addiction is not a just cause for metehadone..again MY own opinion..

[mr.lucky66]

Hey the guy from Canada doesn't seem to respond well to oposing views and his logic isn't clear. It's all the same don't you get it? What goes up must come down. There is no painless way off methadone and I speak from multiple experiences. It's good that you don't have to go to a clinic and be surrounded by some criminals but in the end when the done leaves your body, it's a tough time that lasts a long time. You should really go to the NAMA website where they love methadone and belive in methadone for life for vicodin addicts or anyone. They sit at their computers constipated and sweating saying how methadone saved their lives and praising the Nazis who invented it. not really but here is a a more accurate view of methadone. It can help but is overused and very dangerous and a B%&ch to get off. "METHADONE, THERE'S NO FUTURE IN IT"

[sadinmichigan]

I think you are right..An angry one too.Doesn't seem to happy to me..but that person will figure it out if they are gonna get of it..sounds like he wants to stay on it for life ..
Oh yeah we forgot to mention.."meth mouth" how bad your skin gets and how crappy you start to look while on it for years...No point arguing with that person..there seems to be one of those around every now and again..

[ladyboop]

Methadone is bad for me!! It is not only hell trying to come off it. But In order for me not to be flat on my back within 7 or 8 hours of taking it. I have to only take 15mgs. To have what you all call that normal life. well for me it not normal. That low of an amount won't hold you.. I can't sleep on methadone even though it makes me tired. 2 or 3 hours tops. I have only been on methadone 5 months. And would not tell my worst enemy to take it...
Thats how I feel about methadone. That just me... I glad it works for others. But at some point you have to come off it,  AND LET THE HELL, I MEAN GAMES BEGIN!!!!

[sadinmichigan]

LMAO...methadone sucks!!! I agree 100%

[Mikeinthesouth]

Diversity makes the world go around no matter how much we disagree with others opinions. I too had a doc offer me that in fact two docs offer me methodone and I totally disagreed and ran the other way. I have head all the lovely side efeects and one who uses morphine am scared of methadone.

[poetrygirl1960]

This is a crazy thread, whoa!!!!!!!!  I'm proud to be an American too but I think our healthcare programs suck royal.  I'm kind of a bird on the fence when it comes to the Meth discussion, I don't really know that much about it, never used it.  However I am on Suboxone and I just hope and pray with all my heart it doesn't turn in to another Methadone nightmare I have read about here.  It's true many of you were blind sided by this drug and I am so sorry this happened.  If someone says though, that they are happy and productive on a tapering schedule that might be slow, but a taper nonetheless - I don't think we have a reason to not believe them.  

[Med Help]

Let's stop this thread now, before the entire discussion needs to be deleted. We're not insulting people's countries or nationalities here, or it will be deleted.

[wait2long]

Like i said before...EVERYONE is successful while taking methadone, that really isnt even a challenge, swallowing a pill or drinking some liquid is easy and does produce success in most cases...i have never heard of anyone who  isnt successful WHILE taking methadone...thats not the point. the point is NOT how wonderful you think everything is while your still on methadone!!  try stopping, that is the point you dont see yet, you have not been there yet...
its when it is time to stop is where the success stops, comes to a screeching hault, and YOU cannot challenge that, because YOU have not stopped YET...
when your down to 20-15 mgs a day...come on back and tell us how wonderful methadone is then...i am 99.99% sure your views will be different.
as is EVERYONES!
when i was taking methadone, i felt the same way you do right now, i thought i had found the answer, i was happy, working...doing all the right things...but then it was time to get off, i didnt want to be on methadone for life...that is where the problem lies...and you WILL experience it at some point.
good luck!

[Mikeinthesouth]

good words from one to another. I so agree with you!!

[sadinmichigan]

ditto! for me girl. thanks

[Sael]

Thank you for your open mindedness and your remarks. I posted earlier but yes, I come from a different place where our methods are different. Thanks for noticing that and recognizing it.

I love my healthcare, is that such a bad thing to say? Thanks for this:

If someone says though, that they are happy and productive on a tapering schedule that might be slow, but a taper nonetheless - I don't think we have a reason to not believe them.  

Bravo Poetry Girl.

[wait2long]

oh i totally agree, people ARE happy while tapering...no doubt about it..never doubted that for a minute...so was i ...i could actually go from 80 mgs right down to 40 mgs with nothing but a few sweats...not a big deal there at all.
but that only lasts until you get to a certain point and for some reason with most that i hear of...20-30 mgs is where the pain starts...not at 120-100-60 or even 40 mgs...its when you get to the low doses while tapering that the hell begins...
like i said..i think everyone here WAS happy on methadone...being happy while taking methadone is NOT what anyone here was trying to discuss...tapering at a high dose was not what anyone was doubting...i think the whole point was missed here...

good luck to you!
and yes, i do mean it...you just cant read into it. i would never wish ill harm to ANYONE.

[TheGF]

Hi i have a boyfriend who has been taking oxies for atleast 7months now and has admitted this addiction recently. How can I help him? . . .he never has money and I really don't want him to go down the wrong road. I had a friend who took them got on meth because of doctors and now is injecting oxies in his veins. My friends girl friend does them with him so i cant reach out to him anymore. . .i tried but it's like the surrondings wont let me... and i don't want that to happen to my boyfriend.

would cold turkey work ?? or will he still want them later on in the future?

--Caring GF.