A question for the doc. N-Acetyl Cysteine is what they give for tylenol overdose to help protect the liver from damage. If someone is on pain meds with tylenol, can N-Acetyl Cysteine be used to help protect the liver from the constant use of tylenol containing pain meds?
It is sold at most health store chains as NAC. If anyone else knows any info on this let me know.
Hey Nod, percs here; I don't know about the drug in question.
I do know that Milk Thistle promotes liver healing, and is also used as protection against subsequent abuse.
I read lots about this one as I bombarded my liver for many years, often exceeding 4 grams per day(tylenol). I took it for the last two years that i took percs.
I was fascinated to read that hospitals in Germany kept a healthy supply on hand, due to all the incidents of liver damage as a result of people ingesting poisonous mushrooms.
...I forgot to mention, our doctor here is a psychologist, so medical questions are usually passed.
And I wanted to say, I've read lots of negative comments(in the past) regarding our doctors feedback(like the comments are too general, etc); but I've read every one, and although they are simplistic at times and common sensical, if one really thinks about the message behind so many of them, they really can hit home. So thanks Dr. Horvath!! Your comments have helped me stay in recovery.
DO NOT USE AMBIEN! It has an awful rebound effect, and what I mean is if you take Ambien for about a month or so, then quit, you will have the worst insomnia in your life. I will no longer ask for Ambien because of this. Also, Ambien only puts you to sleep for 4 hours - I'd suggest taking liquid benadryl if your having trouble sleeping or ask for Trazadone. CTG.
I do not have ulcerative colitis ..... I was looking for vitamins for my son and decided to use these myself. I drink distilled water and I am working on changing my diet. I've been reading up on the "Selective Carbohydrate Diet" .... and I like it. I am into the "science" of good health, and it all starts in the gut. I just believe we can overcome some of the conditions that create the need for pain relief ... ***@****
I need another pep talk. Perhaps I am just not driven to quit. It's been 7 days. Physically - I'm okay now. And yes, I'm still clinically depressed and I should do something about that. I just don't see how life is better clean. I don't feel like a giant cloud has been lifted, I feel inadequate, useless and BORED...... I'm looking for some of that great wisdom I've seen before. I didn't really ever hit rock bottom - I just ran out. Maybe I'm not driven to be done. I go to bed at 8:30 every night hoping that I'll feel better the following day. I don't feel that great, but ofcourse I feel better than last week. Where's FINISHED with all his great advice?
Here I am. As far as great advice, I appreciate that comment but I only do what I can to maybe help a fellow addict through the times that I may have already conquered. You have 7 days. That's 1 more than yesterday, 2 more than the day before etc. You will feel "beaten" for a little while longer both emotionally & mentally. It took a long time for you to get to this point in your addiction & will take a while longer to fully recover. I was EXACTLY where you are now except that I didn't run out of meds. I was ready to be done & though you're currently questioning that of yourself, you are too. You wouldn't have just muscled through the last 7 days if not. It's always been said that the physical withdrawls are far easier than the mental. It's hard to imagine that while the detox is in the earliest stages but has proven to be VERY true. You have done some substantial damage to the "feel good" parts of your brain & they'll need some time to heal. I can't promise you a breakthrough date but for me it was right around 2 weeks or so before I started noticing a difference. Life IS better without the narcotics!!! The more you question this, the more likely you are to relapse & dive head-first into any empty pool of addiction. I know it's a hard pill to swallow right now but believe me, I've been there & I've come out on the other side. If nothing else, just give it 2 more weeks. You wont be 100% but you will definately notice that those clouds you mentioned are starting to part slowly but surely. The key phrase in your post was, "I don't feel great but of course I feel better than last week." The same will be said for next week...& the week after...& the week after until you realize that you're coming through. Then that statement will be, "I feel great. I feel better everyday & I thought that yesterday was the best I'd feel." Hang tough. You TRULY ARE ALMOST THERE. If you have other depression issues then I urge you to address those as soon as emotionally possible. This can only serve as a damper to your ultimate recovery. Keep your head held high & know that you did not just fight for the last 7 days only to have to face these demons again.
I just had a follow up visit to my OB doctor, who prescribed Ambien after I commented that I was having problems sleeping. Anyone had any experience with this drug? Is it in the benzo family? I've never been addictive-prone to any benzo, but I don't want to start another bad habit, if you know what I mean. Any comments are appreciated. Thanks, Lisabet
Got from site on Ambien:
Addiction, or dependence, can be caused by some sleep medicines, especially when they are used regularly for longer than a few weeks or at high doses. People who have been dependent on alcohol or other drugs in the past may have a greater chance of becoming addicted to sleep medicines. For more information about AMBIEN and dependence, see important product information.
If you have been taking AMBIEN for more than 1 or 2 weeks, do not stop taking it on your own. Always follow your doctor's directions. Withdrawal symptoms
Finished is right. You have 7 days clean already. You have really just about beaten phase 1, the physicals. They should not last much longer other than the naggin heaveyness. When the second phase, the mentals hits you might want to ask your doc for some short term benzo (ativan, klonepin) treatment. I suffered much longer than I needed to becuase of my fear of benzos. They can be very addicting. But you can take the minimal amount short term without much worry about that. It will help with the anxiety and depression brought on by all the chemical changes of detox. In my case the mental **** could definatly led to relapse. I could handle the runs, chills and all that but I could not escape myself. Thinking can become an enemy.
Hang in there. Everyday clean is a day closer to finding your old self. Set aside some time for "you" and fight this demon. I punished myself way too long before I had a long hard talk with the man in the mirror. That man faded away with each day towards sobriety. My daughter does'nt think daddy is sick anymore.
That makes my life definatly worth living again.
Hello everyone. I'm going on a month of being clean, woooowooo. I havent posted in a while but have kept up with the posting's. I'am very grateful for this site and read it often. N-acetly Cysteine is the first line of defense in all emergency rooms to help rid the body of acetmetaphoine(tylenol). It has a sulphur smell and helps to detox the liver. In emergencys it is given in large doses but can be taken on a daily basis in smaller doses 500-1000mg's. I recommend it to anyone with hep-c and taking painpills or if your worried about your liver health. I highly recommend anyone to be tested for hep-a,b,orc. Seems like us pillpoppers are at a higher risk(they say its our lifestyle that put us at a higher risk). Good luck to all and to all who gives daily pep talks(you know who you are) God Bless you. Peace2all
Hi lisabet, Yes, I use ambien for sleep and it works well for me (except during w/d, but nothing works for me then) but if combined with alcohol or narcotic/opiates it makes (me) pretty goofy, if I don't go straight to bed. Also as Suzie said it is addicting to some people. I also have some info on it and would be glad to give it to ya if ya want. Suzie & MrsRat both know my e-mail addr. if you want, I just dont have time this second cause I'm at work. I'll try to post it for ya later hon. if ya don't feel comfortable e-mailing me. When it first came out, it was not suppose to be addicting but, you know how that goes....and no, it isn't a benzo...love,hugs,friends,.. afriend....(smile)
I know how you feel .... you just want to see exactly how much this medication is doing for you. I am so happy. I am now taking 2 3/4 pills every morning. That is once a day. I have been cutting my dose 1/4 of a pill, once a week. I know that is ridiculously slow .... but hey, I can't handle any shock waves.
At this rate, I'll be clean by the first week in May. I have also found the most awesome vitamins and I am doing everything I can to take care of my health. These vitamins are totally pure and safe for people with ulcerative colitis. They do not upset the stomach. I decided against using vicodin for a quick fix (to get off ultram) After reading this board and thinking back on all that "mental" **** I had from using the strong pain killers .... I said "No Way Hosea" .... I appreciate all you wonderful people here. I am on my way to my new life ... Goldie
I am in my 3rd day I Have been addicted to narcotics for 25 yrs. I have had 5 yrs 2 yrs 1 yr 18 month priods of clean time. Ive run all over the world from and for my addiction.Ive kicked herion oxycotin morphine hydrocodone and too many to mention I have lost 8 freinds to overdoses in the last 2 years too many to count have gone to jail The financial cost is in the hundreds of thousands.Ive done NA AA Religon relationships But the demon still raises its ugly head I am still going to try in spite of all this Ive been getting some solce from you folks the past 72 hours I am familiar with the physical part and I know the the agony will pass leaving me a mere shell I am trying not to give up hope but I am so tired Life has become amerry go round of nightmares Help me hang on
Hey everyone! I haven't posted in about a week. I was kind of stressed with all the arguing. But I see things have gotten back to "normal". Whatever that is!! Just to refresh memories, I was on large amounts of oxycontin and vicoden for degenerative disc disease. I am on day 20, (i think) of NO PILLS. I lost count. All I know is i'm feeling alot better. I still have that mental craving real bad though. UUUUGGGHHH!
This is day 28 and it does get better. Please hang in there and remember why you are getting clean. Pillpopping leads to self-destruction sooner or later. There are no 60 year old pill poppers that have used for a long time(not saying you are 60) and have had a sucessful life. I try to remember what goes up has to come down and I choose to control the down and not to let it come crashing down(it has before)around me. You know most of us are very smart with good people all around us and we are hurting them as well. Please hang in there and know how much you are Loved and how much you have to offer. These are only my opionons and not meant to hurt or critize any one. Hang in there. Peace2all
Also, What has happened to FINNISHED!!!???
I hope he is ok and knows that my thoughts and prayers are with him. That is soooo scary. I have been through multiple surgeries and that is always a fear every time i go under. I hope he is well.
thank you for your words. I am going to hang in there. I need to. It is just real hard at times. I have a three yr. old son, and he and i both deserve better. I have always heard that you need to change people and places that remind you or are not postive to be around. My problem is that the neighborhood i need to change is in my mind. I am addicted to the lifestyle. The so called excitment of being "bad". And I know that I need to work on the way my mind works. There are other ways to get a "thrill" other than harming myself and my son. The whole process of getting the pills, getting doctors, getting prescritions legally or otherwise, getting high. It's the process. Now that I am not physically addicted, i have reached the hardest part. The changes that need to take place in my self. Any suggestions on what has worked for you?
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