Need some help

[desertgirl]

I took my last percocet last night and started on ultram today I thought it would atleast help me with my chronic pain, and nothing, all I feel is withdrawals, could not even get out of bed all day just forced myself to take a hot bath and cried all the way thru it. I will not make it thru another one of these sessions, I have taken 6 ultram, the max dose, and I just want to go and take the whole damn bottle and say *uck it all! I cannot go thru this again. My hands are shaking so bad I can hardly type.

[H3Girl]

let us know how you are doing today. Ultram is also very addictive so another option is probably best. The Suboxone seems to work well but you will have to be weaned off of it at a later date. At least then you will be more mentally and physically prepared for it.

[lil_rab2005]

Thank you so much.  u 2...  hope you have a better day today.  Today is a new day.  My thoughts are with you :) Luvs, Lil.

[Mis Take]

sounds like u know exactly what Im talking about.  Funny how I continued to take them for um, like 4 years after they stopped with the Euphoria. Guess I was always chasin that.  Really Im so glad that race is over now.  I wish u all the best and stay positive b/c we know we have made the right decision.  

have a great day!!

HAPPY THOUGHTS and PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lil_rab2005]

I'm so sorry you're goin through a rough time, I've been goin' through the same thing.  I went 13 days without anything and quit many times before that for a couple of days at a time.  I know it is awful!!!  There's not much I can say to make you feel any better but wanted you to know that I've been there and I'm here for you if you just wanna vent or talk.  Take care and I'll be thinking and praying of you tonight... Take care and god bless, Lil.

Mis Take, I know what you mean when you said "after a while, they don't make you feel good, you're bitchier and everything"  they do the same thing to me... at first they make you feel great, then after a while I was screamin at my kids hubby and everyone... I think it was cuz if someone wanted something and I knew I had to get it, it would bring my buzz down... isn't that nasty?  That's why I wanna quit taking them... that and health wise.  I have ligitimate pain but I can live with that if I can just quit these damn things.  My prayers and thoughts are with ya, Take care, Lil. :)

[desertgirl]

thankyou, and i know i have alot of mental stuff to deal with, but i cannot go back to pills anymore, i wll let you know how it goes tomorrow.

[Mis Take]

sorry didn't really answer the last part of your question.  I think how long someone takes it depends totally on the person.  You taper when u are ready.  I have just read that u have to be careful not to let it become your DOC, even though u don't get a high - u still feel good.  
I know how u feel about getting off the others.  Its amazing how I try and convince myself how great they were, when while I was taking them, I was bitching daily - that they did nothing but keep me from getting sick.  
I really think Suboxone was the only answer for me, and I really think it's pesonal.  w/d and me didn't really jive - due to my being a wimp and all.  Hopefully, with a quick enough taper, it won't be too bad.  

BTW, u do still have to work through the mental aspect of quitting, which is hard, but not impossible.  If u have  a strong person to talk to, you will be cool.  Just find someone u can confide in.  It's made all the difference for me.  Good luck, desert, please let me know how it goes and if there is anything else I can do.

PEACE

[Mis Take]

Yes/no...........it can help with pain, and is sometimes rx'ed for that but in my opinion, it's not the best for that.  However, I have pain as well and I have found so far that it's not near what I had convinced myself it was, and not near what my brain was telling me it was.  I honestly believed, and would have defended that I could not function w/out the amount of narcotics I had in me.   I hope that the pain stays at bay throughout my taper.   Now, the first couple of mornngs are a little stiff, but u can make it - no problem.  If U start the Suboxone tomorrow, u will feel better tomorrow.  Actually, tomorrow, after u take it, u will feel great as long as u take the right dose.  The doc will determine that.  

I hope that helps, if I go to sleep, I'll check back in later to see if u have any more questions.  I don't sleep much so it won't be long.  PEACE

[desertgirl]

thanks again, i do have chronic pain along with the w/ds' right now, would the suboxone help my pain along with the w/d's and how long does a person have to take it, and yes i am done with the pills, it seemed like the more i took the worse i felt so on and so on. i don't want to get the "high feeling" anymore I just want to feel normal again so i can get on with my life and maybe have some fun.

[Mis Take]

I'll check back in a little while & feel free to ask whatever.  I know exactly how u feel & where u are, now, so I'll do what I can to help.

[Mis Take]

sorry, feeding baby.  anyway, I've been on it for 26 days now & tapered 3x.  I did, however, start pretty high.  Each wk now should be a little lower so we'll see.  I really hope he is more responsive yo u this time.  I know 2night will not be fun, but you can do  it.  Just remember that it will all be better tomorrow.  I think the anxiety is the worst, or was for me.  Just tell yourself, YOU CAN DO ANYTHING FOR ONE NIGHT!!!  GOOD LUCK, SWEETIE, i'LL Be thinking of you.

[Mis Take]

I read a lot now, but post little due to all the other .........that happens here on occasion.  I really hope the doc is more open to it tomorrow.  R you ready to be done or switch to the suboxone for long term.  
im only asking b/c I think I remember u have some pain issues as well.  I am tapering pretty quickly, like 2 months total, I think, but so far it has been great for me............& my husband.

cont..

[desertgirl]

haven't seen you here in awhile, he is a pain doctor and i did a search and his name came up. i guess the reason why i am so worried is the last time i ran out of pills he made me go c/t for 2 weeks before i could get a refill.

[desertgirl]

thanks for being here for me, since you are taking it i have some questions if you will be around later.

[Mis Take]

Did u find his name on the list for sub docs.  Just wondering if he can prescribe it.  There are only certain ones, but you  may already know that.  The ones that are qualified to write ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I just can't imagine them saying no.  Is this your general doc?  And your worried he won't belive u, or will make u go through them c/t?  You may have explained this and Im sorry that I don't know, just want to help if I can.

[desertgirl]

ya i was waiting to see if the ultram was going to work, don't know how i am going to make it thru the night, i just cannot go thru this again. i guess i am going to ask him about it tomorrow i am just scared that he will say no.

[desertgirl]

oh i am done with the pills. i called the docs office today and they told me to call them in the morning to make an appt. since the ultram is not working. i guess i will have to go on the suboxone. do you know anything about it?

[Mis Take]

hey girl, haven't talked to u in a while, haven't talked to anyone here in a while.
Sorry to hear that things are going badly.  Have u already made an appointment with the suboxone doc?  Or were u just waiting to see how it would go with the Ultram first?  

[Peete1974]

Yes you can do this.  It suck, probably more than anything else does, but you can do it.  One second at a time if necessary.  Get your mind on other things, go for a walk, have a shower, call a friend, do a craft, write, picture yourself on the beach, meditate, pray, whatever you have to do just do it.  Be strong and hang in there it gets better.  You've come this far don't lose all of this clean time and have to start over again another time.  God bless.
Peete

[desertgirl]

i think this is number 6 or 7 on the w/d's and I just cannot do it anymore. i am so tired.

[desertgirl]

I was trying to taper but I just could not do it, I took about 5 yesterday. I was going to talk to my doctor about getting suboxone but wanted to see if this would work to save myself the embarrasement if he said no to it.

[FLaddict]

did you taper off the percaset before going to the ultram?? even though they are both opiates they are different, I am not surprised that you are having WD if you didn't taper.. did you talk to your doc??

[Peete1974]

I'm so sorry to hear that you are having such a terrible night.  Withdrawal is one of my worst fears.  Keep going you can do it.  You have to remember that you are stonger than you give yourself credit for and you CAN do this.  Only a few more days and you will feel so much better.  I have been where you are and I know how hard it is but you have to dig deep for the strength to get through it.  Best of luck.
Peete