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Norco to Methodone? Advice?
I've been fighting sciatica for about 2 years now. Pain anywhere from severe to barely there. Of course the need for meds doesn't go away just because the pain does.
I am now at 6 norco a day and I want OFF NOW. I'm done. This is stupid and I can't stand it anymore. I am at a crossroad, do I go to 6 1/2 a day? or quit now before I am up to 7, then 8 then 9......
The Dr. has given me methodone for pain relief and I am to take the norco for breakthrough.
After reading and learning a little more about the methodone I think I have found a way out of this misery.
So from reading the forum I am seeing that the methodone has a love it or hate it relationship in this forum. Seeing as my Dr. gave it to me for pain control and from what I am reading it being one of the top worse as far as WD's I think I want to use these little 10mg pills to my advantage for norco WD.
Anyone use methodone to help with hydro addiction? Any help on a good regiment? The pharmacist did tell me that some people take the norco and methodone together at the same time, of course i don't plan on doing that I was more so asking how far apart the 2 meds can be taken since my dr said to use both meds one every 8 hours (methodone) and the norco every 6.
I'm feeling good and that I am in a very lucky place right now, another few days and I can loose this place. What is the best way to use the methodone to my advantage?
Should I try to start the day with 1 10mg pill and see how long I can hold out till I "need" a norco? Should I take the methodone twice a day as prescribed or am I asking for trouble? Maybe just one a day and see how many of the 6 norco's I am not taking I can cut out? So far I have been doing 2 methodone and 2 norco a day.
What is a high dose of methodone in one day? I do fear the mixing of norco and methodone just because the med is so unknown to me.
I am now at 6 norco a day and I want OFF NOW. I'm done. This is stupid and I can't stand it anymore. I am at a crossroad, do I go to 6 1/2 a day? or quit now before I am up to 7, then 8 then 9......
The Dr. has given me methodone for pain relief and I am to take the norco for breakthrough.
After reading and learning a little more about the methodone I think I have found a way out of this misery.
So from reading the forum I am seeing that the methodone has a love it or hate it relationship in this forum. Seeing as my Dr. gave it to me for pain control and from what I am reading it being one of the top worse as far as WD's I think I want to use these little 10mg pills to my advantage for norco WD.
Anyone use methodone to help with hydro addiction? Any help on a good regiment? The pharmacist did tell me that some people take the norco and methodone together at the same time, of course i don't plan on doing that I was more so asking how far apart the 2 meds can be taken since my dr said to use both meds one every 8 hours (methodone) and the norco every 6.
I'm feeling good and that I am in a very lucky place right now, another few days and I can loose this place. What is the best way to use the methodone to my advantage?
Should I try to start the day with 1 10mg pill and see how long I can hold out till I "need" a norco? Should I take the methodone twice a day as prescribed or am I asking for trouble? Maybe just one a day and see how many of the 6 norco's I am not taking I can cut out? So far I have been doing 2 methodone and 2 norco a day.
What is a high dose of methodone in one day? I do fear the mixing of norco and methodone just because the med is so unknown to me.
"I can't believe your doc approved of this plan. You might want to consider a new pain management doc."
I 100% agree. If you live in Chicago I currently have the best shrink in my life (and I've tried plenty.)
It sometimes frightens me what doctors do at times. No one is perfect but they go to school and training with the hope that they str better than us. (In fact they even need more training to prescribe Suboxone!)
At least he doesn't seem as bad as the doctor that over-prescribed everyone thus infirectky giving me a constant 2-year oc 80 hookup. (He just got his license revoked after four patients od'd in the past year. I'm not the type to blame other for my mistakes; for instance, I don't blame the tobacco industry too much, but this doc deserves anything that is coming to him!)
I 100% agree. If you live in Chicago I currently have the best shrink in my life (and I've tried plenty.)
It sometimes frightens me what doctors do at times. No one is perfect but they go to school and training with the hope that they str better than us. (In fact they even need more training to prescribe Suboxone!)
At least he doesn't seem as bad as the doctor that over-prescribed everyone thus infirectky giving me a constant 2-year oc 80 hookup. (He just got his license revoked after four patients od'd in the past year. I'm not the type to blame other for my mistakes; for instance, I don't blame the tobacco industry too much, but this doc deserves anything that is coming to him!)
I can't believe your doc approved of this plan. You might want to consider a new pain management doc.
These folks are giving you good advice. WD from Norco is manageable on your own unless your health is very bad. WD from Methadone is serious business. If you are still having the pain, I would go back to the doc and design a new plan, particularly if you are going to still use the Norco for breakthrough pain.
Norco is MUCH easier to get off than Methadone regardless of the dosage. In fact the absolute worst is Methadone.
I HIGHLY recommend tapering on the Norco...Methadone will get you much deeper Although there obviously are different dosages, getting off Methadone significantly worse than tapering a Norco addiction. In fact, its MUCH worse for most to get off Methadone than H or oc!
For instance, although my Suboxone dr hates to say this to people, but Meth is so long lasting and addictive, she once a patient go back to H (under supervision of course) for a few days just to make the transition to Suboxone bearable.
I strongly believe what I say, but once again let me reiterate that you should talk to a professional. ...outside of your doc (e.g. "he Dr. has given me methodone for pain relief" I didn't even know they can do that, For instance the synthetic opiate (Methadone) is not that helpful for pain considering the potency. I think that's why early-on it has been a rehab drug: no withdrawal but no real high thus allowing a normal life.
. IMHO switching to Meth just from Norcos is a terrible idea!...that's like using and A-bomb to destroy a toll booth....including the fallout (i.e. withdrawal.)
Remember grain of salt. on my statements...Good luck, try finding a new doctor, and listen to the Drs on here.
I HIGHLY recommend tapering on the Norco...Methadone will get you much deeper Although there obviously are different dosages, getting off Methadone significantly worse than tapering a Norco addiction. In fact, its MUCH worse for most to get off Methadone than H or oc!
For instance, although my Suboxone dr hates to say this to people, but Meth is so long lasting and addictive, she once a patient go back to H (under supervision of course) for a few days just to make the transition to Suboxone bearable.
I strongly believe what I say, but once again let me reiterate that you should talk to a professional. ...outside of your doc (e.g. "he Dr. has given me methodone for pain relief" I didn't even know they can do that, For instance the synthetic opiate (Methadone) is not that helpful for pain considering the potency. I think that's why early-on it has been a rehab drug: no withdrawal but no real high thus allowing a normal life.
. IMHO switching to Meth just from Norcos is a terrible idea!...that's like using and A-bomb to destroy a toll booth....including the fallout (i.e. withdrawal.)
Remember grain of salt. on my statements...Good luck, try finding a new doctor, and listen to the Drs on here.
well, no one can tell anyone else how much pain they are in... having been there, no one can ever tell me there was a point I did not need to be medicated. I did.
that said, MsSally, if your pain goes from severe to hardly there, why not just take the norco's as needed? if you are taking that many a day (even on the "hardly there days") like Beach said then - I would try to get off of everything and look into other ways of managing your pain.
easier said than done, I realize. personally, i've turned over almost every stone, and think i've finally found some relief for my (2) herniated disks and spinal stenosis after trying many methods for a year now. it's worth trying everything out there to get off the drugs... all of them.
good luck...
mj
that said, MsSally, if your pain goes from severe to hardly there, why not just take the norco's as needed? if you are taking that many a day (even on the "hardly there days") like Beach said then - I would try to get off of everything and look into other ways of managing your pain.
easier said than done, I realize. personally, i've turned over almost every stone, and think i've finally found some relief for my (2) herniated disks and spinal stenosis after trying many methods for a year now. it's worth trying everything out there to get off the drugs... all of them.
good luck...
mj
I think your asking all the wrong questions.....
How about how do I get clean?
How do I get into detox?
How do I get into a inpatient drug rehab?
How about how do I get clean?
How do I get into detox?
How do I get into a inpatient drug rehab?
First, thanks for haviing the courage to enter your questions here! I totally agree with what Rayy says: My best friend was on Roxycodone 30's (the devil in a little blue pill) after shattering her heelbone. Her pain doc switched her to methadone after a year because she was feeling too "good" (if that's the word...) on tthe Roxies. She cold-turkeyed herself off the methadone after a year @ 40 mg/day ( a standard dose for pain mgmt). She went through living h*ll. Two weeks of constant puking and out the other end, shakes, chills, constant insomnia, zero, ZERO energy --awful. Ended up in the ER with severe dehydration. I'm NOT a doctor -- but my advice after watching my friend's terrible ordeal is: Please, please don't trade the Norco for methadone. Methadone is a MUCH worse withdrawal process. If you have the willpower, an understanding physician and good support group/ network/ friends, you might consider tapering off the Norco 1/2 tab per week. If you stick to it, by the time you're down to a half-tab a day, and it's time to say good-bye to them, you won't experience much withdrawal at all -- if any. I realize I'm talking a 12 week process, but I just cold-turkied off 8 to 20 5 mg Vicodins a day 8 days ago, and it's STILL no picnic. Best of luck to you, MsSally! Please let us know how you're doing. Mike
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