Online Pharmacy question

I buy my tramadol online.  My doctor also prescribes me some but of course, it's not enough.  I was wondering if the dr.'s who are on my rx bottle are REAL doctors???  I just couldn't imagine a dr. writing a script for someone he don't even know!!!  And the pharmacies are real???  why when I get my script does it come in such a cheap looking bottle with a plain white label on it??  It just all doesn't seem like it's on the up and up????  Anyone have more info.

Also, does anyone know...if you were given a urine drug screen...does ultram/tramadol show up under the opiates?  I know it's not really considered an opiate so I was wandering if it would show up.  I am in the process of weening.  I was taking around 18 pills a day, yesterday I took 12...it's the hardest thing I've ever tried to do!!!

[Suebirch]

Do you really mean you were taking 18 Tramadol pills a day? I have them for sleeping. When I take one I am asleep within 20 minutes! I am very confused and scared for you because I can't imagine that you could even take that many.

Sue

[confused456]

Oh my, I agree.....out like a light. I hated them, thank God. But some of the pharmacies get shut down on the net. Not the smartest idea, but do you even want to stop? Just curious.

[GoingToMakeIt]

This is an abuse forum, and you qualify. Tramadol is very addictive and is a bear to get off of. Are you wanting to quit? I hope so? It robs you of endorphins and messes with your seratonin levels among many other things. It is best to taper 1 pill every 4 days. Look at avisg profile, she is in my friends. She has a lot of tapering info in her journals.

[phlebo1]

wow, some harsh words....sorry I asked!
I've seen people on here that took 40 pills a day!!!!  And like I said, I am in the process of weening, I only took 12 yesterday!
I have talked to AVISG and she was the one helping me ween.  I don't why you all would make me feel so bad.  Obviously I want help or I wouldn't be here.  I've been in the ER because of this medicine, I've tried quiting c/t and suffered big time.   I'm actually proud of the fact that I went from 18 down to 12!

[phlebo1]

OH and also....they do not make me go to sleep, it's actually the exact opposite...they give me energy that i've never had before.  At night time I do crash hard but that's because I go a million miles an hour during the day!

[Firefaery1023]

I don't think anyone wanted to make you feel bad, I think people were saying things out of concern.  Please don't be discouraged and keep posting.  We are all here for you.
Lots of Love,
Fire

[GoingToMakeIt]

I am sorry. I was not trying to make you feel bad at all. I didn't catch the taper part until now. Please forgive me. It sounded like you wanted online drug info and that of course is not why we are here. Slow is good with tramadol tapers. avis is the tram expert here although others can help too.
I want you to feel welcome here. Again, sorry for the misunderstanding.

[enemy48]

As for the online ordering........The website you order with only sets you up w/a so called doctor.  None of them ever convinced me that they were real doctors.  But I do believe a real doctor reviews your medical records required.  Then it's sent to a pharmacy where it is filled.

[Mikeinthesouth]

I remember awhile back I had a couple of scripts these tramadol with 120 each per month so that gave me 240 and I used them to get me from script to script well one time it did not make it from one to the other and I had to withdraw a few days and I absolutely freaked out during this. I have not experienced anything so bad knock on wood since then regarding withdrawals. I had no idea of the type of med they were until coming here and reading about all the mights that could have happened during withdrawing cold turkey. All I knew was that they helped a bit ease the withdrawals from Morphine. I do know that I sure did not start out with the intentions of becoming such an abuser of pain meds.I now know why I was in such a crazy insane time of my life. I literaly thought my mind was gone during this. I don't care about non narcotic or not I don't want any of that ever......

[Mikeinthesouth]

Online pharmacies I would guess have found some loophole in the system in that they can charge an arm and a leg for a phone consultation with a dr. then send you the meds at an unbelievable price. So you are getting taken for the outrageous consult fee then the meds cost and the shipping cost. How much do they scam people for for a script of that nonsense if you don't mind me inquiring? Just curious of how they take advantage of a situation. Making tons of money off of peoples suffering. Freaking leaches is what they are.

[phlebo1]

oh it's okay.....I guess I'm just a really, really sensitive person.  I want to be rid of this for good!!!  If I could get a week off work, I would just go c/t but I HAVE to work.   I do have very small children and the last time I tried to go c/t, I couldn't even take care of them!!!!  All I could do was crying!!  I'm constantly praying that this tapering thing works!!  Thanks for all your advice, I've learned sooooooo much since being on here, way more then from any dr.!!

[Mikeinthesouth]

don't be sorry you asked. Thats why I just posted what I posted here so you don't feel so alone in the abusing department. Hang in there. Yes that is a lot of tramadol, but there are alot of abusers here too.

[avisg]

hey girl everyone wants to help. no judgement ........... you are doing great keep it up . I maybe out of touch for the next week rember drop one pill every 4 days....you can do this !!!!

[Mikeinthesouth]

I've never seen a place with so much love its a great place.

[Jacqui805]

First off, congrats on your weaning....keep it up!  I'm so glad you're doing it.  Tramadol (Ultram) is a mu-opioid and so it binds to opiate receptors.  I'm not at all sure about it coming up on a tox screen for opiates (I'd have to look it up), but I wouldn't think so.  I'll try to look it up a bit later for you.  

As for the whole on-line med. buying, as someone said, if they're a U.S. pharmacy, it's all on the up and up.  The foreign markets however, I don't think it's all so easy to figure out.  I do believe some of 'em are real docs and pharmacists and the like, but that doesn't mean a thing because it IS a business.  The med. professionals are there to make money and not to really help you, so even though they've got agreements with their clients....like you're not supposed to be getting the meds. they prescribe you by anyone else, they don't know.  It's just a thing you've got to check off to keep them out of legal hot water.  Some foreign pharmacies are having you now put your primary care physician's name and telephone number down, and they will call them (or at least that's what they claim) to see if it's o.k. to prescribe what you've ordered.  They claim that even though you've ordered, and they've accepted that order, that does not mean you're getting the med., it's up to your doctor first.  Some pharms. will send you whatever you order, but it may get flagged in U.S. customs and you won't receive it.  

[avisg]

ohhh yeah no it does not how i a drug test

[worried878]

Tramadol is underestimated byt doctors....when i quit the hydrocodone, my doc gave me tramadol...it is addictive and was originally marketed as non-addictive...I do understand how you could be taking 15 of them as they are not as strong as some other narcotics and I took 8 of a stronger narcotic per day...probably close to the narcotic amount u are taking...different drugs tho and tramadol is harder to get off of due to it sticks around longer in your body...hence you need to taper to avoid seizures...tramadol also has tons of other drugs it interacts with such as anti-depressants, muscle relaxers, anti-histamines to name a few....glad u r here and you are taking a step in the right direction...avisg is helping you i see...lots of support here so keep posting...nothing is considered to silly to post...how u feel is how u feel

[Suebirch]

I am very sorry if I upset you or made you feel bad. That truely was not my intention at all. I am just concerned at the amount of Tramadol you were taking, and found it hard to understand is the only reason I asked. I thought possibly it was a typo also. This forum is here for us to help each other, so dont get discouraged and again I am so sorry if I offended you.

[toxictome]

Welcome to the forum...lots of help and support here.

If avis put you on a taper plan..you are in good hands....It is a good thing you couldn't get a week off work...because you CANNOT stop ultrams ct.....so i guess that was a blessing in disguise!!!

We are here to help you w/ whatever...keep posting and letting us know how it's going!
YOU CAN DO THIS!!!!  ...heck...you ARE doing this!!

YOU GO, GIRL!!!!!!

[NautyOne]

Even if it's a half a pill a week, whatever you have to do.  Or break the pills in half and take a half every hour or two ......you'll see how fast you can drop by doing this.  Because taking a pill every hour is a pain in the butt, so you will eventually see that you can go longer between doses.  I wish you all the best.

Nauty.................

[oxynomore07]

Don't feel bad about the amount in the beginning of my addiction thats what I started on and I would pop 7-8 pills at a time 3-4 times a day. My doctor prescribed 240 a month so I was always (Borrowing) pills from my grandma. Thats how my addiction started well then my grandma said the tylenol was killin my liver so she gave me oxy 40mgs 3x day. Wow what a difference. Then fentenyl patches(spelling) and Hydromorphone. I was taking enough by the end that I am surprised I am not dead. You are doing a great thing by gettin off when the gettins good. Good Luck.

Josh (126 days clean)

[phlebo1]

Thank you all so much for all your kind words.  Don't worry, I'm not offended.  I'm new to this place and so I'm just learning, Please excuse me if I do or say something that's not right.  I am so happy I have people to talk to.  You truely don't know what a life saver y'all are!!!!

[Firefaery1023]

Don't apologize for anything you have said. You haven't done anything wrong.  Some people on here are just really concerned and they immediately jump in wanting to help.  They didn't realize they were going to offend you.  Please stay strong, I know you can do this.
Lots of Love,
Vicki

[josh231]

im pretty sure they dont show up on drugs tests cause i know this person that goes to a clinc and gets teste each weak and they always take um durin the weak and it dont show up

[house1]

Addicts have very thin skin and are easily offended. What bothers me is that your proud that you have cut down from 18 tramadol to 12.
Dealing with over seas scripts they dont have the laws like the US does. It not even a given that your recieving the right meds dealing over seas.
Your welcome here phlebo people are trying to wake you up from the insanity that your living in don't be offended.
People are worried and are concerned for you but your only reading the fact that there being mean to you that is how an addict thinks.
You should go into an inpatient detox and into a drug rehab and get clean I hope that does not offend you.

[TrayCee]

This is NOT an abuse forum!  This is an addiction forum. I do not abuse my meds.  I take exactly as perscribed.  I am however addicted.  Just an FYI.. please continue

[Marce4]

I guess you are really saying you are dependent on them? Physically dependent?  Or is the mental component there as well?  If you cannot stop taking the drugs, even if you don't need them, isn't that abuse?  There is such a fine line between the two....I'm not at all bashing you Traycee, you just got me thinking....was there ever a time that I was just addicted and if so, when did I turn into an abuser?  HMMM??? Is it just my personality that causes me to be an abuser? I never was years ago so I'm not sure what has changed with me.  I think I need some psychoanalysis!!!!! (No mean comments please!)LOL
Peace

[Marce4]

Sorry, didn't mean to go off topic!  This is the hardest thing that you will have to do....but it is worth it. Tapering is very difficult and I am not one to ask about this, others have been successful...you will get lots of support from them.....just keep going...ok....get your life back, especially for your children!!!!!
Peace

[road2recovery]

I understand exactly what you are saying....i ask myself that all the time...I have taken them as needed for so long, but then they didn't stop the pain, i took more, there is a fine line between the two..
no you don't need a psychoanalysis!!!  LOL
luv ya
r2r

[toxictome]

Not to be an idiot, but i tend to disagree..The title of this forum is "addiction: substance abuse."

I don' t know about everyone else on here..and i know it runs from one end of the spectrum to the other...but I never even HAD a prescription..so I ABUSED them.....I took my DOC for EMOTIONAL PAIN...bought them from 2 different people...who got them from other people...and I became addicted...that's just my story...we all got here for different reasons..guess I'm worse cuz I didn't even have a Rx for them.....but I am glad you're here...whatever your reason is.

I'm not here to judge anyone, I'm just trying to stay clean....and help others do the same.

[worried878]

I abused as well...had a script but got them from outside sources to keep up with my habit...scrip did cover me at work tho if i was tested....if you abuse them by taking more than u r supposed to or get sick when u do not have them...maybe u r an addict...or physically dependent on them..whatever u want to call it..I am an addict..ouch  still hate that word!

[phlebo1]

OMG!  I can't believe you said that you are BOTHERED by the fact that I'm proud that I've went from 18 pills to 12!!!!  Are you TRYING to bring people down????  I think if you ask anyone who has weened off of meds, they will tell you that they were proud of themselves every time they took one more step towards their goal.  I took one less pill everyday....so it only took me 6 days to go from 18 to 12.  If I keep going one pill a day then Hopefully in 12 days I'll be done.  I'm actually weening very fast.  I was advised to take one less every 4 days and I'm doing one less EVERY day!  You have no right to judge people.

I have NO idea why you are talking about overseas pharmacy because I have NEVER gotten pills from an overseas pharmacy!!!  I got my meds from my dr. by a script!!  I have a couple of times got meds from an online pharmacy but I researched them first and none of them were overseas so I guess you should get your facts straight before you start typing!

To the rest of you....thank you for your kind words.

[sterling_silver]

Please, if you were in a horrible car accident or a plane fell out of the sky on your head, this post is not meant for you.
I don't really see the difference between getting pain meds on line or going to these bogus Pain Management Clinics, where you sign a contract. All these PM clinics do is write scripts. Do they ever do anything else to try and cure your pain? Any physical therapy? Acupuncture? Maybe admit you to a hospital, stop the pills and see if you even have pain anymore. How in the world would any doctor know if you have pain after taking hydro or oxy for years. The top side affect of opiate pain meds is they cause pain after long term use. I went to a pain clinic for 4 months for my back. It was located at the hospital. Guess what? No opiate pain killers there. No legitimate doctor is going to keep you on these meds for so long. Thats why you sign the contract.It's all about money. The doctors at these places don't even own the practice. The doctors there can't get a job anywhere else. Write the scripts, get you addicted, send you next door to the meth/sub operation. Since you signed the contract, there is nothing you can do about it.Getting pills from these places are the exact same thing as buying pills on line..............  

[road2recovery]

anyone should be proud if they have tapered at all...I did not have the will power, and i always look at anyone that can taper as strong willed...
keep tapering down..
my doc was hydros, so i know nothing about tramadol, but u know avis does!!
r2r