Opiate/Hydro Withdrawal

[TryingItAgain]

I'm 32.  I have quit twice and two times I have re-injured my back and my Dr. put me back on them, even after I told them about my previous problems quiting.   My self control is horrible so weaning doesn't work very well.   I have cut way back, from about 10-15 a day to 5-10 a day.  I managed to go 44 hours without.... and just gave in and took two.  Idiot.  I know I would have been through the hardest part in another day, but when you are a professional and work a very serious job it's tough.  I had around 40 missed calls/vmails and just couldn't talk to my clients in the shape I was in. (which wasn't bad compared to the other TWO times).  I did work most of yesterday and was useless today til I broke down, but I HAD TO CALL these people and have very important meetings the next two days that are mandatory.  I have three pills left... I will try to leave them sitting. I won't, but I'll get through these meetings and hopefully be ok by next Monday.
I have been using a product called "Sonne's #7".  It is basically volcanic mud that you get at health food stores and it ***** toxins out of your blood.  anyone tried it?  seemed to work well.
L-5 hydroxyTryptophan is an amino acid found in turkey that helps with sleep.  get some.
L-Tyrosine is in the famous Thomas Recipe and is an amino acid.
I went pretty much by the Thomas Recipe except I used L5HT instead of valium... i've been addicted to it before and the idea for me is to QUIT ANY MEDS. I'll rant later.
I would love any advice.  I know it's possible because I have done it before, twice. :-)  My wife and I are going to start a family and I want to get this past me before then.  I no longer want to have my entire life revolve around if I have pain meds or not.  Another thing I have found is after the wd's are over I can manage the pain pretty well with otc's.  I know the first advice is "ya should have waited it out and not took those two hydro's", but I have to function for work and can't risk losing this.... it's not a job, it's a career.  I know it was a bad time to try to quit but it has to be done.  I have the amino's, vitamins, everything ready to go, three hyde's on the shelf to make these next two meetings alive.
Like I said, I almost made it to the second day today but gave in.  I slept well last night(L5HT) except for waking at midnight with cramps.  took more L5 and went back to sleep til 6, got up and took sonne's, vitamins, L-tys, otc's and showered.  I had cramps and took immodium(a must for this type thing) til i wasn't living on the toilet.  
I know I will make it through this, I think God has more planned for us besides taking pills.  Doctor's for the most part just want you to be on meds so you come back every month.  I asked my Dr. several times to help me get off them and she just kept writing.  I am very tall and slender and in relatively good shape and she was writing 10 scripts a month.... insane.  I canceled my next appt. and will do it alone, at home again.  I quit everything but the hydro's and I'm working on that, any help will be very appreciated.

[tgtiffany]

Actually it stood for Terra-Genesis (a non-profit company that helps pregnant woman succeed, I used to do data entry for them at home ) But thanks! haha.  I think now it will stand for Tough Gal!!  Or Tiffany Garza, as that's my husband's last name and soon to be mine I hope ;)

I know my husband skipped lots of things because he wasn't high and too busy out looking for pills.  It made me so angry sometimes.  If he didn't have his fix, he wasn't going ANYWHERE but to find more pills to take, even if we had a doctor's appt for the baby!!!  And I lost almost everything valuable because he didn't have any more money to get more pills so he wasn't so sick.  Even some things I got from my trip to China that I had no clue were worth anything, but he managed to sell them to somebody!!!  Ridiculous!  But you'll soon be beyond this type of life!  Aren't you looking forward to it like crazy?!!  I know you are!

Do you think your wife would enjoy this site?  It might help her understand what's going on with you and everything.  I know it has helped me a lot while my husband has been going through everything.  

I see a lot of good and hope from your words.  You will make it, don't give in okay!  You're super awesome and you can do this :)  You are very positive already, even though you know it's going to be hard.  And like you said, no one is going to do it for you, it's up to you and only you!  You are the only person who can control you!!  Have a fantastic day! :)

[TryingItAgain]

i took another today and will finish up tomorrow.  i have a really long day ahead or i would flush it and start.  please wish me luck, pray, whatever it is you do.  I know the weekend will be rough but I am hoping no pills 2 days, then 2 yesterday, one today and one tomorrow and i will be done.  anyone think this will ease things up? i know it won't be worse. any advice will be great

[TryingItAgain]

have you ever skipped a family or friend function b/c of a lack of pills?  left early and drove an hour to find some?  script run out early every month and need an excuse? vacation cut short?  sold your stuff because you were scared of withdrawals?.... what i mean is you weren't trying to get high as much as you were trying to keep the status quo.
it *****.  tell the people you can, and if you can't tell anyone, tell us on here.  get help.  i am doing it at home with my support on here and my semi-understanding wife. if you need professional help, please get it.  things are so much better without these little devils controlling your life.

[TryingItAgain]

57 hours since Sunday. 12 hours since i broke down and took two.  I have to work today, no choice.  tomorrow too.  I have a social function Saturday but other than that I'm good to go Thurs afternoon, Fri, Sat., and Sun... and that should do it.  I'm gonna try real hard not to take anymore(2 on the shelf still) but I have training and important stuff today and in the morning.  I feel ok and think I may get through the day... we shall see.  

To tgtiffany: does tg stand for tough gal?  thanks for the support and you are right, you have to keep your head up and try your best because no one else is gonna try for you.  if you are sick as a dog and someone ask how you are answer tell em your ok.  Very glad I found this forum!

[tgtiffany]

Sounds like a good plan.  I understand that you have to be normal for work!!!  Good luck, you'll do just fine.  That's good that you can take Friday off too, as you'll probably need it by then.  Do you have the weekend off as well?  That's wonderful that you want to keep updating so it will help someone else.  I'm sure that it will.  Just keep your head up and keep smiling :)

[TryingItAgain]

i have already taken the two i have left and broken them in two pieces each, so hopefully if I take any it will only be 5mg.  It's 18 hours from taking the two(20mg) til the first meeting. I will just have to see how I feel. Both meetings are morning til around lunch and I can take Friday off.  I can possibly get through tomorrow's and take as little as possible for Thurs. meeting. I really have to be "normal" the next two days.  I CAN'T WAIT TO BE REALLY NORMAL AND HAVE MY LIFE BACK!  
Like I said before, I have been through this twice so I know I can do it again. THIS TIME FOR GOOD!!!  I refuse to go back to another doctor.  I know they are not all bad but every encounter I have had was bad and led to dependence/addiction. I hope this kind of "weaning" I am kinda forced to do will ease things.  The Sonne's cleans you out faster than normal so we will see how this goes.  Hopefully this experience will help someone.  I will continue to post and keep it updated as my desire is to help someone, just one person out of this addictive hell we go through.

[justneedtotalk]

Yes....the two pills WILL set you back but only by a day or two.  The whole key of getting past the initial physical withdrawal symptoms is getting all of the hydro out of your system so your body and brain can heal.....The minute you add more you have to wait that much longer to heal.

You are in a tough spot with your work.....Most likely you are going to take those two but I highly recommend not. I usually tried to plan my detoxes around the weekends so I had a couple of days to crawl around the house in misery.  Just think though....If you get through the next two days sober you will be that much closer to feeling better.  I truly wish you all of the luck in the world.....I am working on my third month sober and I truly hope you give yourself the opportunity to see what life is like on the other side....IT IS WONDERFUL!!!!  Good luck and God Bless!

[TryingItAgain]

have any idea if taking the two after two days will set me back all the way, or just part?

[tgtiffany]

Sounds like you know what you are doing!  Just remember that you can do this and when you do finally get over everything do NOT go back again!!!! Good luck :)

[TryingItAgain]

thanks for posting. i have never posted and didn't know what to expect.  i am a realtor and auctioneer for a high profile company.  i have a herniated disc and do physical therapy daily to keep off the operating table.  try the L5HT, it's the same thing that makes you sleepy when you eat too much turkey. It calms the anxiety and a double dose helps you sleep a bit.  good luck.

[reallyneedhelp76]

I am right there with you! Today is day one and i want to jump out of my skin. It's really hard. I too am a professional, a lawyer, actually and i have ****canned all of my work to day.  I just couldn't do it.  I heard that the trypo works wonders and I have to say getting off my a** and walking helped alieviate some anxiety.  I know just where you are and all i can say is stick to it..  I have no support because no one knows my problem.  I'm all alone and i'm really helping that this site helps.  I have a bigger problem because i'm going to a doctor tomm whose going to tell me i HAVE to have surgury.  then what?  suffer?  I don't know, i have a health issue that is not serious but EXTREMELY painful and i have to get it fixed so the bad timing is the same with me!  I'd love to stay in contact with you along this path!  Also, i was up to almost 30 norco's a day! good luck and i'm here if you need someone to talk to.