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Oxycontin 80mg DAY 2
This is day 2 of my detox journey to quit oxycontin 80mg.. last night i took 2mg of xanax to help me sleep and let me tell you after hearing how it works wonders for many many people this did put me to sleep for about 2 hours however i woke up very anxious,kicking the sheets and going nuts after those 2 hours, i smoked 2 ciggaretts and calmed myself down a bit and i'm back on here to ask for some more advice, I am very exhausted physicaly and i just want to sleep but i can't! is there anything i can do? and also would marijuana help or make things worse? So far 48 hours clean, how long will it take approx for the anxiety to taper down a bit after a 1 month oxy use of about 500-1000mg a day? i know everyone is different and each day gets better.. but i don't know how long i can keep waking up like this if it's going to be weeks or months this anxiety feels like i just ran a marathon even when i'm resting through the whole day since day one it's driving me NUTS!
Hello and I am glad to see you want your life from those evil oxy's. I was in your place a little over three years ago and I empahize everything your going through. The tip you received about breathing is a good one as I used that technique throughout my recovery. As far as the anxiety try some vallrien root tea, if you put enough honey in it the taste is not to horrible. Get outside and get some sun and a little exercise as it will help you greatly. I know you don't have much energy put force yourself. You can try some yoga too its a great way to stretch and get some exercise. As far as smoking pot to releive the w/d symptoms I tried it and it didn't do much for me but everyones different I don't think it will hurt you. Look into the Thomas Recipe on the top of this page it worked wonders for me. Remeber to keep yourself hydrated and nourished as this is very important to feeling better. So remember YOU CAN DO THIS so hsng in there it won't be long to your oxy free life I am pulling for you. GOD Bless---Rick .
Hello and I am glad to see you want your life from those evil oxy's. I was in your place a little over three years ago and I empahize everything your going through. The tip you received about breathing is a good one as I used that technique throughout my recovery. As far as the anxiety try some vallrien root tea, if you put enough honey in it the taste is not to horrible. Get outside and get some sun and a little exercise as it will help you greatly. I know you don't have much energy put force yourself. You can try some yoga too its a great way to stretch and get some exercise. As far as smoking pot to releive the w/d symptoms I tried it and it didn't do much for me but everyones different I don't think it will hurt you. Look into the Thomas Recipe on the top of this page it worked wonders for me. Remeber to keep yourself hydrated and nourished as this is very important to feeling better. So remember YOU CAN DO THIS so hsng in there it won't be long to your oxy free life I am pulling for you. GOD Bless---Rick
Hey ljs,
you do sound a whole lot better, good for you! One step at a time my boy. We can only control what's in front of us at the moment. Things are going to happen whether we're clean or using; but one of the lessons I've learned this last 54yrs. is that "how" we deal with the things when they present themselves is what it's actually all about. Let me say that it's a hell of a lot easier "dealing" when you're clean.
The anxiety for me ljs has occured all my life; so ya, I think I just normally run on "high", "max power", "top speed" normally. lol
But ljs, I thought that you've been using for only a month, so my question is, were you very anxious before you started using? But as far as the anxiety and w/d, you should have a good grip by day 5 I would say, maybe sooner. Don't forget you'll have waves of anxiety coming in and out for the next little bit while your brain readjusts.
I'm sorry you're dealing with these feelings about your father right now. You're pretty raw, so whatever emotions you have are going to be magnified, this will pass.....2 wks. ago, I couldn't stop crying, I couldn't deal with anything, yes super hyper sensitive.
I'll mssg. you on pm about your dad, my dad is sick right now so I kinda know what you're feeling.
Keep truckin', Buck!
Always here, peace and love. Spider
you do sound a whole lot better, good for you! One step at a time my boy. We can only control what's in front of us at the moment. Things are going to happen whether we're clean or using; but one of the lessons I've learned this last 54yrs. is that "how" we deal with the things when they present themselves is what it's actually all about. Let me say that it's a hell of a lot easier "dealing" when you're clean.
The anxiety for me ljs has occured all my life; so ya, I think I just normally run on "high", "max power", "top speed" normally. lol
But ljs, I thought that you've been using for only a month, so my question is, were you very anxious before you started using? But as far as the anxiety and w/d, you should have a good grip by day 5 I would say, maybe sooner. Don't forget you'll have waves of anxiety coming in and out for the next little bit while your brain readjusts.
I'm sorry you're dealing with these feelings about your father right now. You're pretty raw, so whatever emotions you have are going to be magnified, this will pass.....2 wks. ago, I couldn't stop crying, I couldn't deal with anything, yes super hyper sensitive.
I'll mssg. you on pm about your dad, my dad is sick right now so I kinda know what you're feeling.
Keep truckin', Buck!
Always here, peace and love. Spider
Thanks, i hate to sound negative at all but this is reoccuring during my w/d so i have to know if it's common and because of my w/d's? Lately i been fearing and thinking about my father dying since he's getting older now, he had me so late and i don't want to sound selfish because i'm blessed to have him still today when there's many other less fortunate people. But this brings me down and i have to tell myself not to think about it and it goes away. Bad thing though is unlike the w/d's which will never come back as long as i don't use, my father's death is in fact factual and will happen, and i just don't know how i will cope because i have a small family and never experienced that situation before.
Hey, thought Id chime in. Anxiety was a huge beast for me. Heart and thoughts racing. Chest tight, tingly fingers. It Su©ked. The mental was much worse then the physicall. Lack of sleep is also going to play hard on your anxiety. BUT THIS ALL PASSES!!! Use the crappy feelings as reminders to never want to go thru this again. When you can, remember to think positive. If only for a couple minutes. Thats a couple good minutes you werent having before. I promise it gets better.
That poem was really good Spider, i definitively loved it! Day 20 congrats!! Yeah the breathing really does help me out. Hey Spider, how long did it take for your heart rate to return to normal or is it still a bit faster?
hey sweetie,
Oh, I'm so glad the weed helped. You know people forget that it is a naturally grown herb which I find much more palatable than throwing down some synthetic chemical concoction. Again I beg you to watch those two videos on-line.
Also, I smoke weed everyday....like they were cigarettes. People just assume I only smoke for recreational purposes and I dont' care that they do but the truth is that it helps with my anxiety.. ......
Seriously I was so incapacitated when I was exactly your age with chronic freefloating panic and anxiety disorder....it consumed me. That's how I
got addicted to xanax......NIGHTMARE...the w/d from xanax took months, it took me a year to feel remotely like I used to. I didn't know at times if I
were dreaming or awake.....after detox I couldn't remember my address or my landlady's name....freaked me out.
Soooo I've spent a large portion of my life researching anxiety disorders and because no doctor will give me benzos of any type, I had to learn how
to control my anxiety myself. I stopped smoking when I became pregnant and didn't start again till after I got cut off benzos......I don't know why I didn't just use the pot for my anxiety in the first place....my husband tried to convince me but I didn't go back to using it till I had no other choices.
So my "breathing" is definitely my "go-to", it doesn't cost anything, you can do it anywhere (you'd be surprised how you can do it without people noticing you) You don't have to close your eyes but if you want ...sure...turn it into a meditation sess. My other daily requirement is
excersize......I workout everyday first thing in the morning.. for 1 hr.
I had heard this worked for years but didn't buy into it until I turned 40....again ....no other choice. You know how it is......it's addicting for me..I love it. So amp up your workout....also tell me about yours sometime, I'd be interested to know what you do.
I've got tons more to say, why don't you friend-me and we can talk sometime.
lol you make me laugh...Forrest Gump........"ruuuuun ljs ruuuuun"!
oh ya....I'm on day 20 today. Yesterday was ******* awesome! I felt for the first time in years such magnificient clarity....things are so much more beautiful and crisp......I wanted to write a poem about me walking to and back from the stable to put the sheep in.....the crunching of the grass under my boots, the cool fall air whipping through the opening of my hood and down the inside of my jacket; the dog's fur blowing slightly with the wind......ooohhh and the smell of the hay is fabtabulously yummy. lol
Silly I know but I need to hold on to these small nuances and remember what being alive is supposed to be. it's ******* wonderful. :o}
So you have a lot to look forward to young buck, and I'm not going to let you forget about that.
Peace and love ljs, I hope to hear from you when you are up to it.
Have an uber outstanding anxiety free hope filled day!!!
Spider.
Oh, I'm so glad the weed helped. You know people forget that it is a naturally grown herb which I find much more palatable than throwing down some synthetic chemical concoction. Again I beg you to watch those two videos on-line.
Also, I smoke weed everyday....like they were cigarettes. People just assume I only smoke for recreational purposes and I dont' care that they do but the truth is that it helps with my anxiety.. ......
Seriously I was so incapacitated when I was exactly your age with chronic freefloating panic and anxiety disorder....it consumed me. That's how I
got addicted to xanax......NIGHTMARE...the w/d from xanax took months, it took me a year to feel remotely like I used to. I didn't know at times if I
were dreaming or awake.....after detox I couldn't remember my address or my landlady's name....freaked me out.
Soooo I've spent a large portion of my life researching anxiety disorders and because no doctor will give me benzos of any type, I had to learn how
to control my anxiety myself. I stopped smoking when I became pregnant and didn't start again till after I got cut off benzos......I don't know why I didn't just use the pot for my anxiety in the first place....my husband tried to convince me but I didn't go back to using it till I had no other choices.
So my "breathing" is definitely my "go-to", it doesn't cost anything, you can do it anywhere (you'd be surprised how you can do it without people noticing you) You don't have to close your eyes but if you want ...sure...turn it into a meditation sess. My other daily requirement is
excersize......I workout everyday first thing in the morning.. for 1 hr.
I had heard this worked for years but didn't buy into it until I turned 40....again ....no other choice. You know how it is......it's addicting for me..I love it. So amp up your workout....also tell me about yours sometime, I'd be interested to know what you do.
I've got tons more to say, why don't you friend-me and we can talk sometime.
lol you make me laugh...Forrest Gump........"ruuuuun ljs ruuuuun"!
oh ya....I'm on day 20 today. Yesterday was ******* awesome! I felt for the first time in years such magnificient clarity....things are so much more beautiful and crisp......I wanted to write a poem about me walking to and back from the stable to put the sheep in.....the crunching of the grass under my boots, the cool fall air whipping through the opening of my hood and down the inside of my jacket; the dog's fur blowing slightly with the wind......ooohhh and the smell of the hay is fabtabulously yummy. lol
Silly I know but I need to hold on to these small nuances and remember what being alive is supposed to be. it's ******* wonderful. :o}
So you have a lot to look forward to young buck, and I'm not going to let you forget about that.
Peace and love ljs, I hope to hear from you when you are up to it.
Have an uber outstanding anxiety free hope filled day!!!
Spider.
I don't know much about pot, but as far as your opiate WD, you're at that point in time where any hour now, you'll start feeling better. It's different for all, but most see acute WD begins slightly diminishing within 48-72 hours, and usually subsides by day 5 or 6.
However, there are a few things that usually take awhile to get over, anxiety, lack of energy and sleep take awhile to return to normal for some people. I just don't want you to get discouraged if the anxiety doesn't disappear with the acute symptoms. But it will lesson over that dreaded word, time.
I had anxiety all my life. The breathing Spider mentioned really does help. Until you train yourself to breathe like that, it takes a conscious effort to breathe in slowly through your nose, and exhaling slowly from your mouth as was mentioned. So you're so totally focused on the breathing technique, especially with your eyes closed, that you will forget your panicking. Whatever you do, be careful with benzo's. Lordy I stopped Xanax cold turkey after 17 years. It made opiate wd seem like a walk in the park. Valerian Root, a herbal med helped me with anxiety and sleep. Actually I slept upwards of 12 hours a night with Valerian and RX'd Clonidine while in acute detox. I had terrible anxiety. I used RX'd Vistaril too. It's a antihistamine with calming properties, non addictive. I'm not sure, is a Dr involved in your detox?
Point though, you are healing everyday. I know now it seems if time is standing still. But each minute that passes you have healed. Pretty soon, time will be back to normal for you. Anxiety will lessen. There is a bright light at the end of the tunnel. I used to tell myself there would be nobody in recovery if it didn't get better. It does. Promise!! Keep up the good work!!
However, there are a few things that usually take awhile to get over, anxiety, lack of energy and sleep take awhile to return to normal for some people. I just don't want you to get discouraged if the anxiety doesn't disappear with the acute symptoms. But it will lesson over that dreaded word, time.
I had anxiety all my life. The breathing Spider mentioned really does help. Until you train yourself to breathe like that, it takes a conscious effort to breathe in slowly through your nose, and exhaling slowly from your mouth as was mentioned. So you're so totally focused on the breathing technique, especially with your eyes closed, that you will forget your panicking. Whatever you do, be careful with benzo's. Lordy I stopped Xanax cold turkey after 17 years. It made opiate wd seem like a walk in the park. Valerian Root, a herbal med helped me with anxiety and sleep. Actually I slept upwards of 12 hours a night with Valerian and RX'd Clonidine while in acute detox. I had terrible anxiety. I used RX'd Vistaril too. It's a antihistamine with calming properties, non addictive. I'm not sure, is a Dr involved in your detox?
Point though, you are healing everyday. I know now it seems if time is standing still. But each minute that passes you have healed. Pretty soon, time will be back to normal for you. Anxiety will lessen. There is a bright light at the end of the tunnel. I used to tell myself there would be nobody in recovery if it didn't get better. It does. Promise!! Keep up the good work!!
The marijuana really did help my withdrawals.. i guess everyone is different, but for me it made time go by faster, more enjoyable i was even laughing, i felt anxious still but i converted into good energy rather then negative so overall i def give it a 5/5 for me. I recommend at least try a very small therapeutic dosage and up your intake from there slowly and carefully, just ask your husband. Anyways hope all is well Spider, stay in touch!!
Hey spider, glad you're trying to get some sleep as well. renal failure LOL, yeah i def want to stay away from OTC'S now. How are you doing? i hope you're also doing well it's not just me who is fighting this battle here, we can do it together! What do you do for the anxiety and when does it start to diminish slowly? i still feel like i could take forest gump's place during his never ending marathon.
Hope you're doing alright ljs, I'm going to bed now but I wanted to check and see if you were posting. I've been thinking of you.
peace. spider.
peace. spider.
Awwwww, I can almost hear the sadness in your written words. Chin up young buck, everything is going to work out exactly how it's supposed to. You can interpret your choices as a setback or take it as another test turned lesson. You'll do your 48 hrs. which will be way easier I'm guessing and and be more knowledgeable at that....meaning if you learned your lesson you won't want to do it again. See....it's all good.
Don't worry about what anyone is going to think either, it's way too easy to have a pity party and slip. You're so young man, I want you to do so much better than I did.
I will never judge or ridicule you ljs no matter what decisions you make, they are yours to be made and I will respect them and I will be here for you.
You sound like a pretty smart kid ....have faith in yourself. :o}
Listsen, I don't know if you're even into watching the tube at this point but it
might take your mind off things .....I would really really really like you to watch two videos.. 1) The Union, The business behind getting high.
2) Run from the cure, The Rick Simpson Story.
very very informative and interesting to say the least.
You can watch them on-line when you get a chance or up to it.
They are about weed ...obvy pro.
I'll be watching and sending you hope. you can do it sweetie.
Spider.
Don't worry about what anyone is going to think either, it's way too easy to have a pity party and slip. You're so young man, I want you to do so much better than I did.
I will never judge or ridicule you ljs no matter what decisions you make, they are yours to be made and I will respect them and I will be here for you.
You sound like a pretty smart kid ....have faith in yourself. :o}
Listsen, I don't know if you're even into watching the tube at this point but it
might take your mind off things .....I would really really really like you to watch two videos.. 1) The Union, The business behind getting high.
2) Run from the cure, The Rick Simpson Story.
very very informative and interesting to say the least.
You can watch them on-line when you get a chance or up to it.
They are about weed ...obvy pro.
I'll be watching and sending you hope. you can do it sweetie.
Spider.
You will be fine. Sleep will return on its own time..I did nothing but Cal, Ds, & Magnz and sometimes a Melatonin at night. Went all natural after I came off 3 meds at once. The Substance do alot to the Neurotransmitter and there are many..So I would be very careful with any Drug right now. If you are a true Addict (which it is a Brain Disease ) We can not touch anything Narcotic or such..It can be a Red Flag that can lead us into more things again. BUT this is you and I am me. It is your Recovery and it sound like you are trying to get a hold of it before it went on from many, many Years. I wish you the Best and it will all balance back in time..Yes give the Cigs and Pot up if U can..I am still working on the Cigs after almost yr of sobriety. They are Bad..Blah..Choke..Choke..
Bless
Bless
I wish i was spider, unfortunately i have to go at least 48 hours and become very tired to get a few hours of sleep in, however i think this one relapse was so small that it won't hurt my withdrawals too much as long as i don't do anymore. I did end up getting a bit of marijuana that i'm about to smoke, from what i heard i got mixed messages on it making anxiety and w/d worse or better. But i got more positive feedback of it being more relaxing and being able to put people to sleep, at this point i'm up for trying it as long as it's just cigarettes and marijuana to get me through this and no more OTC'S of any sort. After this my next goal will be to quit cigarettes, marijuana however i believe has it's place in the medicinal world and i'll substitute my lower back pain with that rather then Oxycontin. Thanks for staying in touch with me spider you're a real god sent angle.
Hey ljs,
been kinda quiet for a bit, just checking in to see how you are, hopefully you're getting sleep.
been kinda quiet for a bit, just checking in to see how you are, hopefully you're getting sleep.
Oh sweetie,
no way could I hold any judgements TO ANYONE let alone you.
ljs, do you know how many times I've slipped, Jesus, I can't count. Like I said it's been over 27yrs. for me. We've all been there.
Unfortunately you got tested really early in your detox. I'm not sure any of us could have held up to it. Actually I'm pretty ******* sure I couldn't at that time. So please please please don't be down on yourself, you stumbled.....that's it.
Other people will be able to tell you what you're in for as far as setting you back. I'm not sure as my opiate was codeine and I don't know how different they are. I'm curious to know what you or others think about you taking a couple of gravol to help get you to sleep. I'm sorry for mentioning it again.
ljs, remember shame is useless, counterproductive just get up and put one foot in front of the other. You're going to be fine.
We all know how had this is, might be the hardests thing you ever do in your life, but you will do it.
Oh ya, I know Kyle for sure is going to tell you to get rid of anything else that may be in the house or your within you "reach".
I'm here ljs........Spider
no way could I hold any judgements TO ANYONE let alone you.
ljs, do you know how many times I've slipped, Jesus, I can't count. Like I said it's been over 27yrs. for me. We've all been there.
Unfortunately you got tested really early in your detox. I'm not sure any of us could have held up to it. Actually I'm pretty ******* sure I couldn't at that time. So please please please don't be down on yourself, you stumbled.....that's it.
Other people will be able to tell you what you're in for as far as setting you back. I'm not sure as my opiate was codeine and I don't know how different they are. I'm curious to know what you or others think about you taking a couple of gravol to help get you to sleep. I'm sorry for mentioning it again.
ljs, remember shame is useless, counterproductive just get up and put one foot in front of the other. You're going to be fine.
We all know how had this is, might be the hardests thing you ever do in your life, but you will do it.
Oh ya, I know Kyle for sure is going to tell you to get rid of anything else that may be in the house or your within you "reach".
I'm here ljs........Spider
I feel kind of down and ashamed that only a little after 48 hrs i found 1 oxy 80 mg i had left and took half of it and then another half hours later. As you remember i use to be on oxy 80's (approx 14 a day) for a month and a half..
I hope this isn't going to start me back to square one since it was only 1 oxy 80, i don't plan on taking more but it did help me sleep and calm my anxiety x10 fold. I'm just worried that this will start me back to square 1 tomorrow morning, or will 1 oxy 80 after taking 14 a day not going to affect me much? I'm so ashamed i should have just flushed it. and yes i'm going to stay away from the xanax, i know a lot of people love them but for me however i didn't really like it at all. I'm just mad at myself now because you're here supporting me and i messed up. I really am trying my hardest though and will get through this.
I hope this isn't going to start me back to square one since it was only 1 oxy 80, i don't plan on taking more but it did help me sleep and calm my anxiety x10 fold. I'm just worried that this will start me back to square 1 tomorrow morning, or will 1 oxy 80 after taking 14 a day not going to affect me much? I'm so ashamed i should have just flushed it. and yes i'm going to stay away from the xanax, i know a lot of people love them but for me however i didn't really like it at all. I'm just mad at myself now because you're here supporting me and i messed up. I really am trying my hardest though and will get through this.
Good morning ljs,
yes huge congrats on day 2! I know how ****** you feel right now and for the most part you just have to forge through it. I'm sorry the xanax didn't let you sleep longer but you are still pretty raw in detox.
I personally would bypass the xanax, it will be said over and over again that xanax is really addictive too. The weed..........I know we're not supposed give certain advice but.........I am a chronic weed smoker for 40 yrs. I haven't really got a bad thing to say about it. Quite frankly I think it would be much better for you to use the weed rather than the chemicals to calm you and help you sleep. If you know anyone who cultivates and knows about the different strains (ones to help you sleep, ones to help with pain, ones to help with appetite, ones to give you energy, etc. (my husband has a license to smoke and grow so I know a lot about pot.) So.....that being said everything Rosy said above is very helpful too.
I know you probably won't feel like it but excersize is helpful for anxiety and sleep. You don't have to do much right now, just walk or whatever you can do to expend your excess energy. If you drink coffee....stop. Cigarettes are stimulating too but I would never ask you to quit that now. I know I keep saying this to people and it seems trivial but BREATHING properly is key to relaxing yourself too. When I get in my panic modes, the first thing I do is make myself aware of my breathing......always fill your diaphram with your breath in, NOT your chest. Long slow deep breath in through your nose, hold 3 seconds, blow out through your mouth slowly and completely. Do this for as long as you want but you will feel calm after about 3 reps.
Simple but effective.
Try not to think about "how long" you are going to have to feel like this, it's counterproductive, stay in the "now" , that's all you have to deal with. I really don't think it will be too long before you're out of the "hell" part of it. You really weren't on the oxy's for that long, was it a month, so you have to have that going for you too.
oh ya also.....I have been taking gravol before bed to help me get to sleep, it works for the most part but like the xanax......it doesn't keep me asleep all night but I think that's cuz I'm old. lol
Well ljs, if you want I'm here thinking and rootin for ya.
Peace. Spider
yes huge congrats on day 2! I know how ****** you feel right now and for the most part you just have to forge through it. I'm sorry the xanax didn't let you sleep longer but you are still pretty raw in detox.
I personally would bypass the xanax, it will be said over and over again that xanax is really addictive too. The weed..........I know we're not supposed give certain advice but.........I am a chronic weed smoker for 40 yrs. I haven't really got a bad thing to say about it. Quite frankly I think it would be much better for you to use the weed rather than the chemicals to calm you and help you sleep. If you know anyone who cultivates and knows about the different strains (ones to help you sleep, ones to help with pain, ones to help with appetite, ones to give you energy, etc. (my husband has a license to smoke and grow so I know a lot about pot.) So.....that being said everything Rosy said above is very helpful too.
I know you probably won't feel like it but excersize is helpful for anxiety and sleep. You don't have to do much right now, just walk or whatever you can do to expend your excess energy. If you drink coffee....stop. Cigarettes are stimulating too but I would never ask you to quit that now. I know I keep saying this to people and it seems trivial but BREATHING properly is key to relaxing yourself too. When I get in my panic modes, the first thing I do is make myself aware of my breathing......always fill your diaphram with your breath in, NOT your chest. Long slow deep breath in through your nose, hold 3 seconds, blow out through your mouth slowly and completely. Do this for as long as you want but you will feel calm after about 3 reps.
Simple but effective.
Try not to think about "how long" you are going to have to feel like this, it's counterproductive, stay in the "now" , that's all you have to deal with. I really don't think it will be too long before you're out of the "hell" part of it. You really weren't on the oxy's for that long, was it a month, so you have to have that going for you too.
oh ya also.....I have been taking gravol before bed to help me get to sleep, it works for the most part but like the xanax......it doesn't keep me asleep all night but I think that's cuz I'm old. lol
Well ljs, if you want I'm here thinking and rootin for ya.
Peace. Spider
First, congrats on taking your life back! Be very careful with the xanax as it is very addicting itself. Wd's are no fun but they don't last forever! Like you said it does keep getting better and better. Sleep will return in time. It takes a bit to heal after all the abuse we have put our bodies through. Hot baths with Epsom salt are a God send right before bed. Maybe some very relaxing music... Also have u tried melatonin for sleep?? I wouldn't advise using one drug to get over another.. Ex: weed. It's like the flu. Hang tight and ride it out. U will be feeling better each day... Keep your mind busy and stay as active as possible!! Tire yourself out. You can do this. One choice at a time!! I'm rooting for you!!
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