Oxycotin relapse (sort of)

[CHAD FROM PHILLY!!!]

Hello everyone, as you might know from my posts below, I have a problem with Oxy's. Here is the situation. Today is 13 days without doing Oxycotin, however my girlfriend and I did percocect last night. I guess we were trying to see how they would effect us. We took two apiece and BAMM, we were flying. My question is this. By doing the percocet last night, will our recovery be affected? I know that physically we feel fine. I am concerned about the mental effect of doing them will have on us as I am about to fill a script for a ton of Oxy's. I was kind of wishing that we were going to wake up today with the shakes. This way we would have never considered using anything again as the withdraw is to much to handel. Unfourtunatly, we feel great today so I wonder if we will be able to dabble with the Oxy's. In other word's will one or two once or twice a week effect us? I know that every one is different but I thought some of you might have some insite to my new problem.

[GA Guy]

This post is from 2000. We all hope Chad has recovered and is experiencing life again. Just on a side not..after reading some of these posts to Chad after his relapse...Beach isn't half as harsh as some people have said :)

[Sydney Smyth]

so I recently had the chance to have the rapid detox,it was rough but got through it;now after a bit of time I have been doing oxycotin for 2wks 80mg a day  and of course after 2wks this is now only sustaining me!!I am soo ashamed I relapsed when ppl would die at the chance to have that procedure.Being that I have only been taking oc's for 2wks I need 2 stop now.Prob is I dont know how I should wean down over the next week and I have no clue if the withdrwl symptoms will be real bad or not.I have tried to get off b 4 after 4yrs but was never successful,that's why I must do this now!!!Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated,any guesses at how long the withdrwl will last also,keep in mind ive been doing one 80mg oxycotin 4 2wks now and now it just sustains me.help please!!!!

[techie]

hi

[From Aunt Lindy to Mariah]

Hi Sam,
What a mess you have been through.  We can relate. Because of the holiday it may be quiet on the site I am not sure.  There are alot of great people on this site that can give you great advice.  Please keep checking here and see who responds.  Please tell your wife to hang in there.  If you have not already read back through some of the prior postings.  Also using the search button type in "Detox" you will get all kinds of prior postings.
Good Luck to you.  Like I said there are so many great people here that I am sure you will hear from.
Sincerely,
Marcie.

[Sam]

MY NAME  IS SAM I JUST  FOUND THIS WEB SITE .I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT  PEOPLE HAVE  THE  SAME  PROBLEMS AS  ME  AND  MY WIFE. I HAVE  BEEN DOING PAIN PILLS SINCE  I HAD MY ROTO CUFF  FIX  IN 1989. I BUILD  HOUSES FOR  A LIVING  AND  WAS  MAKING 100.000  GRAND EASY  NOW  I AM BANKRUPT. SINCE I FOUND  OXY 'S PERK'S  ARE  USELESS USE  10 OR MORE  AT A TIME  WE  NEED HELP  CAN SOME ONE  PLEASE  TELL US  WHAT  IS THE  BEST  WAY TO TRY  TO DETOX. WE ARE  WILLING TO TRY  ANYTHING  PLEASE HELP.SORRY IF THIS IS  A OUESTION WHERE ALSE  SHOULD  I WRITE?

[BtC]

OC's are great!  I eat 'em all the time.  Eat 40 mg and
drink 4 beers, and you're just fine... weee!!!!!  Percs
aren't too bad, well, they're the same, just with a lot
of nice acetominophen for your liver.  Just cover that
gaping hole in your liver from all those wonderful
intoxicants, and go on about your daily life.  Huh...

[John]

Hello

[John]

Hello everyone I am very shy about this mater because it has been a problem I hav delt with alone for so many years (10-15 I think). So I will Keep reading these posts and I hope that I could jump in some time and share my story with all of you. I know we all feel the same way.
                 SUCCESS TO ALL OF YOU

[John]

Hello everyone I am very shy about this mater because it has been a problem I hav delt with alone for so many years (10-15 I think). So I will Keep reading these posts and I hope that I could jump in some time and share my story with all of you. I know we all feel the same way.
                 SUCCESS TO ALL OF YOU

[John]

Hello everyone I am very shy about this mater because it has been a problem I hav delt with alone for so many years (10-15 I think). So I will Keep reading these posts and I hope that I could jump in some time and share my story with all of you. I know we all feel the same way.
                 SUCCESS TO ALL OF YOU

[John]

Hello everyone I am very shy about this mater because it has been a problem I hav delt with alone for so many years (10-15 I think). So I will Keep reading these posts and I hope that I could jump in some time and share my story with all of you. I know we all feel the same way.
                 SUCCESS TO ALL OF YOU

[Steven]

wow
My doctor has me on percocet 10 mg (at least 4 a day)and oxycotin twice a day for pain.  I know that they are addictave, but have never had any problems with stopping them over a few day of weaning time.

Let me know how you are doing and why you chose these drugs.

concerned,
SS

[Shiny]

Recently re-reading this thread you said you have about 20 or so oxycontin lying around the house.  Then you also have the script you are always talking about.  Then when someone question you because you relapsed and got some oxy you said you live next door to some people and can always get them.  My question is why did you make such a big deal about getting your oxy filled (you said you couldn't they were post-dated. So anyway you finally got them filled.  What happened to the 20 or so oxy you had laying around the house but didn't take?  After re-reading your post it just sounds so confusing.

[Jade]

Oxy's ARE EVIL.
That is all I have to say

[chris]

Hello.  I've been reading these postings for some time now.  Quick question for you all if you don't mind......I've been taking Vicoprofin/ Vicodon ES (10-14 pills p/day) for a few months now.  I'm not sure what the withdrawl signs are; but I'm feeling achey, tired, unmotivated, loss of appetite, and my joints don't want to move when I'm not on them.  Are these signs of withdrawl?  Or have you experienced withdrawl??? I don't want to become addicted to this ****; but I'm thinking that I may already be....Pleae feel free to reply to me via email.  I would really like to hear from some people on this - thanks!
chris_cirone***@****

[Brian to Sick and Scared]

I'm glad you find my posts helpful.  Someone else here once said I should consider starting a website, and perhaps at some point I might consider doing so.  I have too many things going right now.  As for my story, I prefer not to get too detailed because my position requires that I remain anonymous.  I first started using pot when I was 12, used acid, coke, pills, etc. on and off for years.  Eventually got into narcotic painkillers and was addicted to them for several years, with numerous detoxes and relapses.  I am proud to say I have been totally clean for about 18 months (it would have been 2+ years but for one slip).  With respect to half-life, what this means is the amount of time it takes for plasma drug levels to decrese by 50% after discontinuation of a drug.  Fentanyl has an elimination half- life of just under 24 hours.  This is a much longer half-life than most other narcotics (methadone is longer which is one reason it is used for maintainence).  The transdermal patch method of releasing fentanyl is designed to release a constant level of the drug to treat patients who have constant pain.

[Angie to Ken]

Thanks for your response. I now understand the hesitation to respond to my questions. I have read many of your posts and they are so helpful. I know you stated your a dr. and have been on "both sides." Do you mind if I ask what your story is? Your obviously a highly intelligent and compassionate individual. Hey, did you ever consider opening your own website? You would have quite a following. One more question: Does the duragesic leave your body more slowly than oral meds? I don't understand the "half life" description I've seen so many times.

[Brian to Sick and Scared]

I know the answers to your questions but for the sake of those who will use my response to abuse the medication I will not give them.  My advice is to simply take the medication as directed and to avoid either cutting the patch or heat/hot water.  The time release nature of the patch will not affect the potential for addiction.  The patch will not continue working after 72 hours.  Please contact your doctor if you have any further questions.

[Angie to Ken]

Thank You for seeing those questions as they were intended. I wasn't going to respond anymore because the more I try to explain the more I must sound like an addict. I am not putting down anyone who is one as we all struggle with one thing or another in our lives. Having to take pain medication is certainly something I wouldn't wish on anyone. Having your health is the biggest high on earth. I was hoping to find out if the patch would be less addictive than taking pills, that is one reason I wanted the equivalent ratio. However it sounds like I'm on something much stronger. Maybe it's time to see a new dr. since he tended to brush off my questions. Good Luck jf!!

[jf to chad]

hope u find out the answers but u did not come across as someone
seeking a way to get more out of the patch for a "high", ur
questions are valid and resonable so don't take offense!
I slit one patch and ate about a match head of the jelly like med.  I did not feel anything xtra so they may only be effective
when leached into ur bloodstream.  Kinda good to read this dialogue.  I went back to the oxy's yesterday, 2 80s 3 times a day.  Not bad and will get somewhat of a buzz.  Take care and let me know what u find out please!

[tom to Gina]

from one addict to another, it's obvious you're trying to sqeeze a better high from the fentanyl patch (you said it controlled your pain ok). I don't blame you, but fentanyl is an incredibly potent narcotic. It's many, many, many times more powerful by weight than heroin. It's famous for killing heroin addicts using it as a designer-drug substitute for smack. If you're going to go after a high, surely the percs would be safer and probably do a better job. Don't fool with cutting open those patches. You could wake up dead. Not worth it, Gina!

[Angie to Ken]

I'm sorry if I came across the wrong way. If I was an addict I wouldn't be asking if I could keep them on an extra day, I would be asking if I could put two on at a time. I am trying to figure out what they are comparable to in the form of pill brand/dosage. The reason I ask about the heat is I read about avoiding that only after I took a long hot shower. I mentioned that I do not get the buzz like I do off pills but that was OK with me since they took care of the pain. I am afraid of becoming addicted, have discussed this with my dr. who stated as long as I take them on a regular dosage my chances are slim. I'm wondering if that is true so who better to ask then people who have been there. Sorry again if I sounded shady but does anyone know these answers or is duragesic something that is not familiar on the street?

[Philly to Chad]

Hey Chad, I have been following this discussion thread for the last few days.  I am a fellow Philadelphian.  The reason I am responding is to encourage you to follow your idea of training in the IT industry.  I am a mid-level manager of an IS department in a major company in Philadelphia.  I can tell you that it is a great career to get into if you are really interested.  The money is good and it is very exciting work.

I guess I am also writing to say that you can make it...you can be successful even after this problem.  I was in your place a few years ago.  I still struggle.  Anyway I finished my college degree from a reputable university and am now making a 6 digit income.  If I can do it anyone can do it.  

Although I didn't go there, I hear Temple University has a great (non-credit if you aren't interested in college) IT training problem with offices in Philly and Fort Washington and other places.  And they are relatively inexpensive.  They may even have need-based scholarships.  There are other great training programs in the area too.

Good luck

A friend in Philly

[Ken , day two]

Gina , I hate to say it but it sounds as if your trying to find a way to get the most out of the patch that you can.And me being an addict I would too. So please use them as they are supposed to be used and you wont end up like me, trying to find a way to get off of this miserable ****.If I'm wrong Im sorry to have said anything. That is just the way it sounded to me.