Pain Medications

[jay3]

Are ms contin and oxy contin the same thing?

[Abbygirl]

No they are not the same, they are however made by the same drug manufactuer. Ms Contin is a morefine type to wherever the oxycontin is a percocet type, both are long acting meds.

[kell737]

As abby said , No there are not the same.  Very  much alike as far as the high you get but MS contin is Morphine sulfate and Oxy is percocet.  The Ms contin is stronger and lasts longer (given to a lot of cancer patients etc)  and the Oxycontin is not as strong and is mostly given to people fir broken bones, chronic pain, etc.  

Hope this helped.  

~kell

[hellbent]

I beg to differ on the MS-Contin Vs. Oxycontin. Oxycontin is much stronger. Oxycodone is the most active opiate orally, I think the yield is something like 70%, as opposed to morphine, which is about 40%. If you are slamming them, they are much closer, but just about every addict I have ever asked who has tried both drugs, orally and IV, says that OC's blow MS's away, in terms of the high. Pain patients are generally given OC's for more severe pain, or so I have heard/read.

[kell737]

I apologize.  I was think oxyCODONE, not oxyCONTIN.   I was saying MS contin is much stronger than oxyCODONE (which is percocet) ... Ms contin is Morphine sulfate.  I read wrong.   My apologizes to everyone.... However MS contin IS stronger than Oxycodone (Brand name: Percocet)

~kell

[tim02]

Hello all -

I have been a reader of the forum for a few months now and really admire the strength and courage exhibited by the folks who post.  One quick question, my oncologist recently prescribed something called Oxy IR for pain.  Does anyone know abou this medication and the dangers.  Thanks

[kell737]

Welcome to the forum!  The medicine you mentioned is a narcotic pain reliever.  As far as dangers, the only one that I know of is addiction.  It's a very addictive pain reliever.  I would advise (obviously) to only take what you ABSOLUTELY need.  It is a good medicine to get rid of pain.  Be ver aware of the side affects of being addicted to this kind of drug.... it can be hell!    Good luck

~kell

[hellbent]

Oxycodone IS Oxycontin, but pure as opposed to mixed with acetominophen - hence the "cet" at the end of the pill name percoset.

Oxycodone is stronger than Morphine, especially orally. Where did you hear that morphine was stronger than oxycodone in relative doses? I've heard the oposite from everyone that I have ever talked to. I have also done plenty of my own research on that one.

[Pennyboy]

oxycodone continuious release (Oxycontin) metabilizes in the liver (as do most opiates) into morphine. Oxycontin is a codeine derivitive and technically is not a strong as morphine sulfate. However the timed release aspect of oxycontin makes for incredible abuse potential since the availible oxycodone in the tablets. I personally have abused both and personally the high of oxycontin did seem better than the morphine. I have heard others say the same.

[Pennyboy]

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[mrmichael67]

I will agree that the high is more pronounced with the oxycontin.  I was on oxycontin, now I am on ms contin.  Oxycodone is metabolized into noroxycodone and oxymorphone and some oxycodone remains unmetabolized.  As far as pain control goes, ms contin, for me, is highly superior....highly!  Again, that is for me.  The only reason the high is greater with the oxycontin is because of the high percentage that doesn't get lost in the liver.  Also, ms contin lasts a lot longer for me.  And, it seems to have a much more soothing effect....especially with the pain.  If I had to choose, I would take the ms contin.  Again, that is all my experience.

[Pennyboy]

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[mrmichael67]

The potency of morphine can be effected by a person's genetics also.  I have seen all different opinions on the potency of oxycontin vs ms contin.  Some say that the ratio orally is 1:1.  Some say the potency is 1:1.5 (morphine-oxycodone).  It all depends on the individual.  The WHO pain ladder says that oxycodone is a opioid of lesser potency and morphine is an opioid of high potency.  When I had my back operated on both times, they had me on the morphine pump the first day and then brought me down to oxycontin and percocet.

[hellbent]

Here's a newsgroup search. The first thread is pretty good...

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Oxycontin+Vs.+Ms-contin&ie=ISO-8859-1&hl=en

[tim02]

Thanks Kell -

[kell737]

Oxycodone IS NOT oxycontin.   Oxycodone is percocet and oxycontin is morphine and tylenol.   Morphine is much stonger than percocet regardless whether you take it orally or intrvenously.  I guess it would vary on what a person's tolerance is.  Some people might feel better or get a better "high" from OxyCODONE and some more on the oxyCONTIN but techinally  oxyCOTIN is much stronger.   Don't get me wrong, I'm not arguing with you ...ok maybe I am (LOL)  but I grew up with my mother working in a pharmactical atmosphere , thats how I know.    Hope your day is well

~kell

[mrmichael67]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but you are completely wrong.  Oxycontin is oxycodone, not morphine.  Ms contin is morphine.  They came up with oxycontin because a lot of pain patients were taking massive quantities of percocet and that has a lot of tylenol associated with it.  With the oxycontin, they can get the amount of oxycodone they need without the tylenol in it.  And, with the DEA coming down on doctors for writing too many pills, oxycontin was also conceived as a good way to keep the pill count down.  If your mom told you this and she is a pharmacist(?), then that is troubling.  When I used to get oxycontin filled, I would get the paper that described the med, side effects, how to take, etc.  Right on the paper it says "OXYCODONE".

[mrmichael67]

And, neither oxycontin nor ms contin have tylenol in them.

[Hinkster]

Type in www.palliative.org. At the top click on clinical information. Scroll down to morphine vs oxycodone vs the patch.
This should help out with the comparisons of the pain meds.

[Hinkster]

on the above post after clicking clinical information on the left
side click on palliative care tips THEN scroll down to morphine
vs oxycodone. Sorry for the mix up.
Tom

[Hinkster]

on the above post after clicking clinical information on the left
side click on palliative care tips THEN scroll down to morphine
vs oxycodone. Sorry for the mix up.
Tom

[Ghost in my shell]

Hello everyone,
I am not bragging but my two cents worth on the MS vs OXY is this. (BTW: I had a botched surgery of c2,5&6 20 years ago, pain is my constant companion, but thank the Lord I'm mobile in all ways.
In any case if you fire them up there is not much difference....MAYBE 5-10 mg going to OXY. I used to find MS laced frozen drinks (liquid IR w/ the little dropper.) However, pill for pill nothing beats defeating the timed release on at least an 80 OC if you've the tolerence of an elephant (as I do)..:-(
I am adament that Oxycontin has gotten more undeserved bad press just because a few "immortal" 16 year olds chewed a handful of them , not even knowing the strenth and washed them dowm w/ a pint of JD. I dare say this is NOT the drug's fault.
Did you guys/gals know that the FEDs each year "predict yearly what will be needed on their little *controlled substances* list and guess what got a BIG cut for 03? OXYCODONE, which for sake of the bickering above IS the same ingrediate sans acetaminophen, in OC just normally 5 little mg instead of 10-(at one time 340). I understand the publicity got the 340s cut from the line, leaving 160s at the top.
Best wishes to all.....:-)

[copingpoorly]

I have severe back pain due to a series of injuries and obesity. I have not been able to find medications that will relieve my pain. I have taken too much Tylenol already. Most of my pain comes from muscle knots and spasms, but some is deep in the joints. Any recomendations for pain meds without tylenol and muscle relaxants?

[MIGGIE]

help!  We live in La Paz Mexico and my husband broke is collar bone in 3 places. The meds in Mexico are horrible they don't take the pain away. Dr. prescribed Qual  which is 200 mg of paracetamol  50mg clohidrato de dextropropoxifeno and 2 mg of diazepam. It's **** nothing! Any idea? thanks

[lyssamarie]

question? does ultracet contain codine?

[sighburrangel]

I have been a Hospice nurse for 17 years so I know my pain meds very well. MS Contin stands for Morphine Sulfate Continued release,(that is where the Contin comes from)
Oxycodone is percocet, tylox or the generic for oxycodone and tyenol.
Oxycontin is oxycodone but it is in the form of Continued release,that is again where the "Contin" comes from in the name.
When oxycontin is crushed and snorted or shot up instead of getting the oxycondone dose slowly over a period of 8 to 12 hrs the person gets a mega zap because it is made to melt and release exstremely slow so you are getting a controlled perscribed dose.

[edinbama]

After 4 yrs of taking ms contin  im up to 3 30 mg  and3morphine sulfate 15mg ir Im ready to talk to a nuerosugeron about the out patient sugery where they insert a tube and camera or microscope into the disks to relieve the pain id love to get off the drugs altogether . Has anyone gone this route ?Ive had pain blocks idd disk therepy chiopractors swimming and everything i know about eccept sugery and im scared of major cutting on my back anyone out there been down same road as me ?Ive never lost or run out of my meds usually have a few left over every month when i see the pain management doc   HELP  ed in alabama

[FLaddict]

This thread is very old last post was in 2002.. you should click ''Back to Forum" and post your own question so that it gets seen and you get some feedback.. you may also wanna check out the Back Pain forum or the Pain Management Forum...

[edinbama]

1 tablet every 8 hrs for breakthrough morphine sulfate 15 mg per day and MS contin 30 mg 1 tab every 8 hrs per day  is this way too much im57 yrs old /////???

[FLaddict]

LIke I said you should repost this as a new question... and also check out the pain management forum.. this is the addiction forum.. we don't really know what "too much" is or if we did we wouldn't be here...

[hogie49]

Is it dangerous to mix OC, MS, and D-4s?

[toxictome]

This is an old thread...post  anew question so you don' tget overlooked....
Go to the  "post a question" button at the top of the page and type it in....see you out in the forum