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Personality Quirks/Signs/Stress

I am living with a 46 year old man for 16 months who has been clean for two years from extensive cocaine and crank use for over 20 years.  He did attend a drug class (required by the Courts) but does not feel any additional counseling is needed.

He is now an alcoholic and probably has been for a long time in addition to the drug use.   I am trying to learn how all this has affected his personality, his dealing with issues on a daily basis.  We are having problems obviously, he will only clean up his drinking on a short term basis if I threaten him with breaking up.  I would like to learn the changes in personality, and all the issues that affect him and for how long from the drug abuse.  I have never dealt with a person suffering from an addictive personality/behavior, and would like to learn how I can handle it and how I can help him, without enabling him.

Thank you.
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.....Do you listen to the same program as I do?  Actually the program is calle Unraveling The New World Order.....heard of it.
Very interesting.  I think you got it right.

annie

I'm waiting on my email!!!!!!
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NWO :"The"-New World Order.

As implemented by the NWA new world Authority(the Covert "Underground American Military"
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Its called the "NWA" new world order.
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......I haven't read the whole thread, but upon running through rather quickly......You all were discussing something happening in 2012.  Well, that is what some Biblical prophecy experts say, and I can't relay everything, but they've done their homework and thoroughly studied time lines, and artifacts/geography...
There is also one web/radio link that I frequent from time to time, and they were discussing what happens in some of the U.N. meetings......we are so in the dark.  This guy just slipped in w/ some group, and said they already have laid the ground work for whats to be called the "National Neighborhood."  Need I say more.....Sounds like a One world gov't thing going on there.
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Oh he's fun alright.  My grandmother passed away 18 months ago from terminal cancer, and we all thought we'd loose him after that, but his inventivness saved him I guess.....Now he has a neighbor lady bringing him pralines (home-made candy) lmao.
......uh that's when he's not up on the roof.....LOL
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I can help him get free cable and Internet,but it sounds like he enjoys the challenge more than success.As far as space ships go,are you sure he is not taking to many antiparkinsonian drugs?.
Never the less we all need a cute fury koala crawing around our roof tops and lamp posts,he sounds fun!.
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Hey my grandpa tries to get everything for free.  My aunt went his house once, and saw him figiting around w/ the phone lines, LOL, and asked him what he was doing........(get ready for this one!!)  He said I'm trying to get internet service.......lmao
We are waiting for him to build a space ship, and go to the moon to install his very own satelite.lollllllllllllll

Annie.....(:


PS......He tried this w/ cable tv too......lmao
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pLEASE LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU GET IT FIXED     LOVE CIN
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Same here:I want to fix it ASAP and will ring my Internet Service Provider `Today`.18-4-2001,4:41 (EST)wednesday.
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so will this problem ever get fixed?  I enjoy your mail...you are quite a character and I mean that in a good way,  ok my little Koala bear,,,i have to get some sleep...i had been awake for 26 hours the other night and then only 3 hours last night..ever since I went to the cemetary on Easter I have been unable to sleep...talk to ya soon    love cin
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No,I am not trusting Hotmail,they are trying to suss me out,so I will have ***@**** open for "windows"(ie when poss)

Did you ever see that program on TV where a Phone/communications company Triangulated to source a transmition to an ISP from a mobile phone and ET`s intercepted it(the triangulation pattern)and terminated transmission(well that is not the "window" period).
I do not think they like spooky things,whereas if Luke does it it is OK.

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the e-mail address is not working still......do you have another one?
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Ok,  I just became concerned....I am going to try the upnaway again and see what happens, then I have an attachment to send
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I do not know if you are following this thread,but since I tried to get a Hotmail email account(gave up as limitations on username password etc,really pissed me off :"spook2345645", sorry try "1qw3dfgj6jfcjj3488xkmremcxkl",that is available and REAL easy to remember,****!!!.
Please try again as I think everthing is alright(sure ting:tingly sort of feeling!),although I am concerned ,as I sent an email from ***@**** to a friend in Japan and it came back like a bunch of lies saying:-("hello,I am Robert your friend and want to talk to you but first you must get a Hotmail account),like I know this is not what he would say,and I have sent him emails before and recieved them back from him to above address.I think Microsoft has knickers in a knot because my secret question was real hard to guess"what is my real name?",implying ?I gave a false name to sign up information,but the answer was "None of your business" of cousre I did not provide any REAL details of whom I thought meant to be in the appplication,now they like playing games or what,maybe when I gave their secret message security a once over I used known active hotmail addresses,and know active passwords,now they are trying to intercept my email and and and..........., Probably just the attachment on the email it was pretty heavy ANIME
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Sorry, I meant book, and SPOOKY LUKEY  Ok young man,   I have been sending you e-mail and the Mailerdemon has been sending it back   wuzzup????????? Have a Happy EASTER    Love the Easter Bunny ;)
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I have a whole bood on gnomes.....cute little critters....
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cool
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Luke - Thanks for the compliment and the site(s) you post, I gotta have that book and now!
Cat - the comment about what to do with yourself once your partner gets it together was not lost on me. My mother and stepfather almost split up after almost 20 years together because she cleaned up from her valium binge of about a quarter of a century. Poor fellow was lost without her to take care of and had to deal with more "normal" releationship problems. It most definately is a very real issue and I would supect that the length of time together could work either way in terms of being an asset or liability. Hope you are all good. PS - spook - now I think I know where all our electicity is going here in CA. I'll bet they had a reactor go down at groom and diverted our juice! :)
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you crack me up.

although, spook, you have a baby elephant and a mother elephant. if she left him at this point, he would die.

but with enough time and what, grass?, he will grow..

i watch the nature channel too, you know.

:) cat
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Well this is the way I see it.
<p><center><img src=http://www.hedweb.com/animimag/elepbaby.jpg  </a></center>
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The tricky part is knowing how much to let slack and how much to tug.

a little metaphor for the afternoon..

when a person's down and they have to stand on their own, and you've got a rope tied around their waste, it's very hard to not have the urge to yank it as quickly as you can, hoping the person will just spring up to their feet and all will be well. but you know in reality if one were to do it this way, the person would simply drag along the ground, unable to get their own balance in such a quick amount of time.

this desire for a quick turn around is what plagues those people who are in love with addicts, parents of addicts, anyone involved in the addict's recovery process. Patience is a very difficult thing to achieve when you can't tell for sure what the person's balance is, or what they feel their footing to be. No one can tell except the person themself.

But it's this 'quick fix' desire that the addict wants also. When they were using, the drug was their rope. That's why so many relapse, because the withdrawal effects come slowly and painfully, and they want to   b o u n c e   up!

So hang in there, anyone holding a rope. Just don't get burned. It's kind of a paranoid feeling also, that i've had sometimes.. that when my guy springs up finally, will i fall down in the momentum and not know how to handle him 'problem free'

what a crazy thought.   but real also.   cat
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Very nice post,I am looking at the sites now,it is good to oscillate in constructive harmonic resonance.Just watch out for Schrodingers cat on the pathway to enlightenment.It more of a tiger really.
<a href="http://www.2think.org/quantum.shtml"_new">Milk for the mind</a>.

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spookster re: EGO roles as apposed to california rolls - for someone who delights in being verbose and abstract in the extreme you sure as hell are succinct when you wanna be. That was beautiful. Bright one. As I'm a "silicon valley" silicon "boy" :) I though I would attempt (this is risky any time spook is in on the deal :) an answer to some of your questions - I suggest these sites to form your own definition for nanotech stuff. .http://www.hedweb.com/http:// www.zyvex.com/nano/
These are basically devoted to the positive side of technological advancement and promise. It doesn't take a quantum mechanic to see that it can and probably will be used by the dark T-shirts as well. Spook has actually addressed most of your questions somewhere on the site here but it was spread out over several days / questions etc., so I'll do my best. Materialism - this is the basis for both the perceived need and indeed the manifestion of a "machine" that will do what we are all born with the capacity to do. the entities with an investment in control would obviously relish something so powerful. It's possible existence is quite real. There is a "shop" in San Jose Ca - the heart of silicon valley - run by a very nice young American/Chinese engineer that is a captal funding outfit for the CIA. It's quite overt and they make no bones about the fact that they want all the coolest toys first. You have to remember that there are a bunch of good intentioned citizens in just about any group out there CIA included. Because this country is so rich and so wide open the need for technolgy to monitor threats is very real - like anything else tho it can be used for more sinister purposes. It's quite easy to typecast any guvament org as dark. Reality is just not so. So again we have the "potential" for exploitation and abuse - not an edict. Technology is accelerating at an almost geometric rate now and is really just getting started. Every decade or so we have busted through a threshold that was governed by "physical science" that has changed dramatically. I'll propose an anology. Remember the 8mm cameras that not to long ago were the staple of family vacavtion films? Ever watch streaming video on a high powered computer - 1.2 mb processor and a shitload of ram? If not, it's like riding an OLD bike to the airport and climbing for a ride in an F-18 hornet. That whole "the future is here" thing - believe it.. There are entire new technologies based on manipulated DNA and nanotechnology - wherein living cellular structures are "programmed" for specific tasks and "self learning" and much of it has spawned out of medical research - think about that knowing what you do about AMA and the Pharmacy business.
Several years ago I spent about three hours on a plane next to a researcher from UCLA. He was part of a team that was mapping voice recognition patterns in the human brain to develop models for ostensibly benign and consumer friendly things such as software so you can tell you car/cell phone whom to call and have your computer pull up a file while you do the dishes. Once again - potentials  :) The ghost in the machine - there is documented evidence that the  - animation body - or what you think of as the non-physical and eternal life force, can be and may actually be more of a director and is not necessarily "in" the physical body, at least not all the time. Regarding heaven : we all get to die Brighty that's a given. The fact that we die and "just go to heaven" sounds a lot like my mother saying jesus has saved her. He may have saved her but I don't think it's mechanism is quite how she perceives it. I strongly suspect that we most likely - relatively speaking - end up at the same frequency once we discard this mortal coil. Word up - do the work here and now because no one that I've come across really knows. Even though there is commanality in life after death scenarios - there is also much disparity, suggesting to me, that much like human experience incarnate - what takes place on the other side may be unique for all of us..
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SOME OF THE ROLES THE EGO PLAYS


THE VICTIM

is someone who feels ashamed of themselves. He is very needy of other people and asks constantly for their advice and does not take it. He will often complain but will not take any action. Often heard telling hard luck stories containing phaes like "It's not fair, "You're so lucky. Those who try to help are left feeling frastrated, helpless and impotent. Frequently play the "yes-but" game with those who offer suggestions of assistance.



THE RESCUER
is someone who is motivated by guilt with a great difficulty in saying no. As he wishes to have everything around him harmonious he seeks to attend to the needs of others but deprives them of the opportunity to help themselves. The rescuer needs to be needed and is seen as virtuous and kind. Always appearing strong he will feel taken for granted. Rescuers and victims attract each other strongly.



THE PERSECUTER
is someone who is motivated by anger. He puts out the message "Go away, I don't need You!" i.e. the opposite to the rescuer. His isolated, critical and aggressive stance is but a wall of protection around his vulnerable nature. The world appear as black and white to him - "PuII yourself together!" would be the advice he might offer a victim. He believes that through attack he will get what he wants.



The ego's plan for salvation centers around holding grievances. It maintains that, if someone else spoke or acted differently, if some external circumstance or event were changed, you would be saved. Thus, the source of salvation is constantly perceived as outside yourself. Each grievance you hold is a declaration, and an assertion in which you believe, that says, "If this were different, I would be saved". The change of mind necessary for salvation is thus demanded of everyone and everthing except yourself.

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