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Please, I need some advice!

by NotaMomma, Mar 04, 2008 08:08PM
First, I decided to join this community because of the responses in this forum. Everyone seems to care and not to judge which I find to be really helpful. Here is my story, which is NOTHING compared to a lot of you whom I have developed a high respect for.

I am addicted to percocet. I don't want to take it anymore. I buy it from the streets. Here is how I got this way.

I am under 35 years old and was born with a deficiency that caused me to have no enamel on my teeth. Thousands of dollars was put into trying to save them but, on my 30th birthday I had had enough. I had them all pulled and got dentures. The problem started with the extractions. I went to affordable dentures and the dentist was HORRIBLE. He only numbed the front of my gums so I felt EVERY tooth being pulled on the inside of the gum. He cracked my lower jawbone in several places AND, to top it all off, gave me ibuprophen for the pain. I had 22 teeth pulled!!! I was in agony. So, I found someone who would sell me stronger pain meds. One week later, I was still in excruciating pain so I started searching for dentist that specialized in dentures (I only have temp dentures and still need to get the perms...but I REFUSE to go back to that dentist). I found one and went for a consult. She did an xray which showed my fractrued jaw and 4 ROOTS that he FORGOT to remove. They were abscessed and adding to the pain. She prescribed antibiotices,percocet 5/325 and Advil 400mg every 4 hours, ice packs and lots of rest. I was told to eat very soft foods, etc. The following week she extracted the rest of the roots and wrote me a script for more perks. She continued to refill them over the next 6 weeks...until the jaw healed.

Then she had me come in for an xray and cut me off completely. I could deal with the sleeplessness, the pain, RLS. What I could NOT deal with is the sweats. So, I kept buying them from a guy I know. I NEED AND WANT TO STOP. Please, does anyone know a way to stop the SWEATING?? I cannot deal with it nor can I take off of work to sleep until it stops. Also, how long will the sweating last? I've been taking them for a year now. 5-7.5mg every 3-6 hours.

If I could stop the sweating with chills, I could quit no problem. Its not mental for me. Its completely physical.

Also, on a side note, What would happen if I told my doctor this story. Would he never prescribe me narcotics again? I don't want to have something really wrong with me (broken arm, slipped disc, for example) and have to be in severe pain b/c they have labeled me an addict.

THanks in advance for ANY help you can provide. If I can find answers, I will go cold turkey today.
Member Comments (9)

by whathefu_k, Mar 04, 2008 08:17PM
To: NotaMomma
For me, the chills and hot/cold spells went away in about 5 days. I did keep sweating forever........... but I think that is some kind of natural way of ridding your body of toxins. The sweating will eventually stop too. I think you can speed it up by exercise/sauna.
The doc thing- I wouldn't do it- don't see where you have much to gain by it.
You can do this- good luck

by beentrying2quit, Mar 04, 2008 08:25PM
I'm terribly sorry to hear your story....that dentist deserves to get his azz kicked.  Unfortunately the sweats and chills go right along with the detox...nothing you can do really except take some kind of med that will lower your blood pressure like a Benzo or some type of antihistamine.  BE VERY CAREFUL with benzos as they are as addictive as pain pills.

I would caution you on speaking with your doc about this....if you tell him/her the whole story you will be labled an addict and find it extremely difficult in the future should you ever really need pain meds.

There is no shame in taking pain meds for the right reason...there is this thing called "quality of life."   I'm sure you are aware that the more pain meds you take eventually the more you will require to obtain the same effect or level of relief.  I started out with one 10/500 Lortab a day, after 6 mths went to 2, then to 3, then to 8 a day, eventually went on a 75mic fentanyl patch every 48 hours (only supposed to change them every 72 hours) and was lying to every doctor that would listen.  I do have chronic pain but the real reason I wanted them was for the high.

Fentanyl is as close to heroin as you can possibly get and getting off of it is no picnic.  My best advice to you would be to get off these pills as soon as you can.  If you are not able to go cold turkey then a slow taper might work but you have to be extremely disciplined and most of us addicts are not disciplined.

There is something called Suboxone (Methadone light) that a doctor could prescribe for you. This drug is intended to help people get off pain pills but can be addicitve as well.  So there are your choices....the rest is up to you.  Our job here is to support you in your decision to get clean and we will be here every step of the way.

Keep us updated on your progress and I will pray for you.

by road2recovery, Mar 04, 2008 08:28PM
welcome...i am very sorry for what happened to you...I also hate tooth pain and cannot beleive  a dentist did this to you, that is crazy..

now are you saying you are taking 5 at one time?  or 5 all together a day?
the good thing is a yr is not that long, and you have recognized the problem...
Do u have anyone you can trust with knowing this and maybe helping you taper...Going c/t is very tough with having to go to work...Ecspecially if you are taking 5 every 3 to 6 hours...About how many a day are you up too?
If you want we can help you out with a taper.....
Are there is also sub you can think about...
r2r

by codeinequeen, Mar 04, 2008 08:38PM
To: Notmamma
I totally empathize with your dilemma.  For those of you afraid to speak to your doc - allow me to share my day.

I have been hooked on codeine for years.  I have tried cold turkey on more than occasion.  We all know how it feels.  My doctor prescribed a weening program for me and also set me up with a great support system.  For the first time in a very long time, I am optomistic about getting of this stuff.  Besides the long term liver effects, it has failed to continue to give me that feeling of euphoria it once did.

If you are going cold turkey, have someone to help you through.  It's tough enough to go on your own - a little support could be welcomed.  Good Luck!

by road2recovery, Mar 04, 2008 08:49PM
To: codienequeen
congrats to you!!!  you are so right about no longer getting that feeling...It goes away and the more you take , the worst it gets...Plus the damage we did to our bodies is bad enough .....I always worry about my liver, but hopefully it will be fine..
Good luck to you, and let us know how you are doing..
Glad you have a great doctor, and support system
U will beat this and feel so much better
r2r

by worried878, Mar 04, 2008 08:51PM
To: Not
Sounds so painful...the teeth thing...ouch!   So sorry////but now you need to deal with this I know...I also work full time...i did a quick taper (not much of one) and took a long weekend off of work...I was taking around 80 mg of hydrocodone daily....My detox was basically over in 4 days (the physical part but I am also mentally addicted)...I am glad I took the time off....I detoxed alone but did have someone dole my pills out during my taper til my time off work came around (I was unable to taper successfully by myself) This is do-able and I am not sure waht kind of job you have...in my job I can not hide out!  It worked for me and I will be 1 month clean thursday/well really tomorrow at 4pm...it was well worth it...everyone here will be glad to help u...keep posting

by worried878, Mar 04, 2008 08:53PM
To: NOT
I also started the NA meetings as soon as I decided to quit....It did help keep me on track and still attend weekly/AA works well too for many as a addiction is an addiction...this forum is and was my main support system

by NotaMomma, Mar 05, 2008 04:15PM
To: EVERYONE
Thank you, everyone, for your kind words and sharing your stories. I congratulate all of you over your conquering this horrible addiction. I have no idea where you found your strength...I am still looking for mine. Now to clear some things up...

I am taking approx. 5-6 5mg percocet per DAY. I know I am a baby, but I cannot take the sweating. I work in an area that demands me physically every day. So, when I go in wd-ing, people are constantly asking me if I am feeling alright. I am currently quitting smoking on Chantix (which makes quitting a BREEZE) and I tell everyone that one of the side effects of Chantix is hot flashes and Chills. So far, they have bought it. I would LOVE the taper method, but how do I go about doing it? I know I have the willpower...I'm not chasing a high, just trying to get rid of the dependence I have so that I stop sweating. This is really the ONLY thing that is keeping me from quitting completly. If I could never take one again and NOT SWEAT, I wouldn't touch them. However, since they cost me 50 bucks a DAY, tapering may not be feasible. Could someone please tell me how many I would need, per day, to do a quick taper. I know I could not afford a several month taper, but several weeks is doable. I will use as much money I can afford to get off of these things.

Again, thank you soooo much. You have NO idea how much better I feel already. I want to be sober. I want to have normal emotions and not cry at the drop of a hat. I want to live again. While I feel it is my fault it got this bad, I wish there was a pain med that would work as well without the addictive qualities. At least I know I will never have the tooth pain I once had and won't need these horrible pills for THAT anymore.

by newmanagment, Mar 05, 2008 04:23PM
there are many on here that can help with taper plans. seems like avisg? i think is how she spells it is awesome with them. also goingtomakeit can help ya with it, just send em a message. road2recovery can also point you in the right direction, send her a message explaining what you are looking for. you  can do this if ya want to , and we are here to support and help all we can....

by toxictome, Mar 05, 2008 04:37PM
I tapered and did itsuccessfully...PM(private message) avisg..she can set you up w/ a plan...any time you want to talk ..you can PM me...you will still have wds, but they will be very minimal compared to ct...GOOD LUCK!!!
YOU CAN DO THIS...and we'll be here to help you. Look up the Thomas Recipe...in GoingToMakeIt's profile in his journals...it will give you some idea of the things to get together before you start to help make it easier!

by worried878, Mar 05, 2008 05:53PM
To: NOT
first thing you gotta do is make a plan..how many pills you want to use and how long til you quit...pick a day...I did a 10 day taper and took a long weekend off at the end...keep posting
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