Please I need info on suboxone

[kris123]

Dr said it was ok to go on Suboxone while pregoo, i went to the appt and they gave me the script but I haven't filled it because I don't know if I should use it.  Will it help with the anexity??  that is my main issue.  they said they want me on it a year, but I only have been doing pills 9weeks.  I had to go to ER last night because of intense withdrawel systoms and what did they do shot me up with pain med right in my vains to calm me down and gave me a script for 30 percocets to taper down with.  What??????  Doesn't make sence to me.  IS suboxone bad???

[avisg]

Plz take ga advice he knows alot about sub and he has looked into the prg part for you .He had great advice .

[kris123]

No not taking the pain pills any more.  I should be clean by now.

[GA Guy]

I sent you a PM, so check your messages. I knew there had to be an addiction history because you escalated on the opiates very quickly. It usually takes several months to get to the levels you're taking.

[dominosarah]

are you still taking the percs?

[kris123]

Ok, History
Starting useing Dec 15, 2009
Percocets - I would take up to 12 a day some days 20 but that was not often.
Other meds I am on
Seroquel(sp)  400mg
Nuretion(sp)   300mc 3x a day as needed for anxeity - doesn't work
Buspar     15mg twice a day - just started
Levoxyll    for thyorid    .150mcg a day

Yes, I have abused coke, crack, weed, and now pills
I have taken things for anxiety before

Should I do suboxone(sp)

[avisg]

Kris GA guy is the one that I wanted to talk to you about Sub .If you give him all the info I think he can help .Sub may not be such a bad idea .So give him all the info and he will give you his thoughts on it .

[newwayoflife]

Okay, I am in no position to give advice but I have to say something.  I am going to a suboxone doctor tomorrow, but I am 35, not pregnant, and have been addicted to hydro 10/500 for two years.  I am not even sure I am going to do suboxone or just get over it.  However, I have had three pregnancies and two beautiful children 11 year old boy, 6 year old girl, was on nothing during those pregnancies and lost my second baby the day he was born.  I was full term and ruptured before I got to the hospital and he drowned while still inside of me.  You need to put that baby first and formost.  What a precious gift from God.  I am sorry to be so firm but you are abusing this baby.  Go to your OBGYN, tell him/her all of this and if you took pills for 9 weeks, labor is going to be worse than the withdraw.

[GA Guy]

I have a couple of questions I think is very important that I don't think has been asked. Forgive me if it's been answered. First, have you had any substance abuse problems before? Secondly, what exactly and how much of it were you taking daily? What other meds are you taking? Did you ever have anxiety before starting opiates?

[Danny111]

In my opinion you definitely Do Not need suboxone or subutex.  You've only been using the pills for fricking 9 weeks!  Stopping isn't much fun but you can do it.  The wd's are over in one to two weeks.  Why would you want to go on some other type of drug for possibly up to a year while being pregnant at the same time???

It just doesn't make sense at all.  You're pregnant.  Stop using and don't just switch to another drug.  You can handle the wd's.  They'll be gone in a week or two.

[onthefence]

The difference between Subutex and Suboxone is one thing, Naloxone. Naloxone is an opiate blocker that Suboxone has in it that Subutex does not. sub is>>>>>>>>>
Suboxone®

Brand name for the Schedule III sublingual formulation of buprenorphine combined with naloxone.

Subutex®

Brand name for the Schedule III sublingual formulation of buprenorphine.




Buprenorphine

An opioid partial agonist that is a synthetic derivative of thebaine. Two sublingual formulations of buprenorphine, the Schedule III pharmaceuticals Subutex® (buprenorphine) and Suboxone® (buprenorphine/naloxone), received Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approval in October 2000 for use in the treatment of opioid addiction. Buprenex®, an injectable formulation of buprenorphine, has previously been available in the United States and is approved for use as a parenteral analgesic.

[kris123]

I meant because I haven't had the habit for years, that was a typo.  Yes I read about the subutex, I agree.  I will check that out and go to one dr and keep OB involved.  He has approved all the meds I am currently on and has close eyes on baby.

[avisg]

there are way to many doctors that you are going to. Your OBGYN should be involved with any and all meds you are given ..In the end this is about that unborn baby .I am confused    when you say this     I just don't think subutex is right for me because I have had my habit for years.

or did you mean because you haven't been using for years .Subutex I think would be safe then suboxone but I have contacted someone that has more knowledge then myself about sub.
Hopfully they can give you better advice

[kris123]

I know it is hard because the stupid psychiatrist is out there sometimes.  I think your right to many drs.  Dominosarah what do u suggest?  Which dr should I turn to.  I just don't think subutex is right for me because I have had my habit for years.

my may w/d w/d symptom is anexity.  IT is supper hard to deal with.  I am ok right now today.  I can sleep because I have seroquel at night for my bipolar.  So I long for my bed right now lol.

[dominosarah]

You are on a roller coaster....too many doctors and too many pills.  Cant they all get their heads together and come up with a plan for you?  I would think that would be much safer for you and the baby........

[kris123]

YEs, i thought you start sub in the dr office as well but no this dr just gave me the scrpit and told me how to take it - wrote it down and I was to go get it and start it.  I didn't however start.  I was a wreck yesterday.  Do you guys say no to sub?????
I went to another dr this morning who gave me some Blood pressure med to help with the high blood pressure I am having.  He said he didn't think sub was the answer - he is one of my regular dr as well - I got two.  I called my psychiatrist and he said no hold on to the script and he will do some reseach.  I get so confused as to which one to listen to.  I got my psychiatrist, my regular dr, my ob, and the sub dr I seen.  I feel like I am on a roller coster.

[avisg]

Jen is right I can not believe being pgt he would not induct you in his office

[jen2331]

I was on pills for a very long time - 20 to 30 ops a day for a year and many years before I relapsed a year ago...I was put on Sub 8mg 2 x a day and we discussed it being a 6 month treatment.  Your dr. sounds over the top...that is an outrageous amt of sub if you ask me.  And avisg is right - if he gave it to you, the ethical and responsible way would be to give you an rx for a couple of sub, you go get them at the pharm and go back to his office and take them in his care.  He should observe you and see how you respond.  Are you or were you having w/d symptoms at all?  
jen

[avisg]

they wanted you on 24 mgs for nine weeks of use that is a VERY large amount of sub and your reg doctor prescribed this for U and did not start you in the office had you take the script home while you are preg this sounds very scary to me let me see if I can find someone with a whole lot more sub knowledge

[vicki595]

Okay Sweetie~  Yes,24mg. of sub seems like a lot to me but I'm not an expert.

I DO believe you. Is there another doctor you can run this by? For another opinion?

You haven't taken any pills in a few days and that's great!  The Buspar will kick in soon and will help that anxiety.  Do you have support at home?

Continue to stay away from the Percocet which sounds like you're doing!

Vicki  xo

[kris123]

Yes, I am being honest.  I started trying to get of the pain meds two weeks ago, I tried one week and to be honest relasped.  I was honest with my OB on Monday and told hime what I had been doing, he said no more pain meds.  Then I talked to my regular dr and he said suboxone may work.  I had been clean for a few days when I went to the Suboxone dr this week.  You have to be clean before you can use it.  But it scared me a little because he said to be on it for a year.  The anxeity that I experience is very intense and I broke down yesterday and was having pains so I was worried about baby that is why I went to ER.  I didn't go there to get meds at all.  I just want some one to check the baby and me to make sure I was ok.  I told them the truth as well.  Yes anexity is my biggest problem.  I got no pills now and threw away the script.  I just get scared when the anexity comes because my stomack tightens and I am worried about baby.  Yes i am on buspar for 6 days now so i hope it helps soon.
They wanted me on 3 8mg pills of sub!!
I just want the best advise, how to deal with the intese anxeity.  This is all the truth.  

[Danny111]

There isn't any reason why you would need suboxone or subutex after only having taken the pills for only 9 weeks.  Something doesn't sound right here.  

Why are you going to the emergency room when all you have is anxiety?  I'm not trying to be judgemental but something about the whole thing just seems off.  You don't need any suboxone, subutex, or anything like that to stop using if it has only been for 9 weeks and your wd symptoms should be relatively mild.  

Maybe you need to tough it out a little?

If you're pregnant the most important thing is that you stop using.  

[avisg]

you are going to be in a worse place taking sub for a year how much do they want you on a day ?

[vicki595]

Kris~  You said yesterday you weren't sure if it was suboxone or subutex.  Do you know now which one it is?  You also said that both your OB and GP agreed on this treatment.  They gave you Buspar which takes a little bit of time to work but not long.

What's going on really??  Is it that you just want the pills?  Please get honest here,with both the doctors and us.  We all want to help...but this has gone on for weeks now...

No one can really tell you to do this or do that...no doctors here...and your situation is a delicate one because you are pregnant.  That is a HUGE concern.

Vicki   xo

[kris123]

You know I have been searching for an answer from one of these drs that would be safe for the baby.  The ER dr said pain med is a class B med is is very safe for baby.  I told him I wanted off the med.  I guess I went in there for anexity and pain in my stomack and wanted them to check the baby.  The OB and other Dr agree Sub would be ok.  Grrrrr, I am not going to take any more of the pills I can't. Then here I go again a dr wanting me to taper again.  The OB said the baby is fine, he checked it with US and everything looks great, he agrees to get off the pain me and sub is ok, but I don't think a year of it is what I need.  I think I can make a couple of more hard days.  I making it so far today.
I was totally honest with the ER dr, he came in and said I can't really help other then give your body what it wants and then you taper.  I told him how much I was using and everything.  THey all say different things.  It is really cazy.  I just can't look at another darn pill