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Questions about coming off opiates.
Hi all,
I've just posted once, but have been lurking for a year and a half. You're all so kind and generous, I feel like I know some of you. This site has helped me more than you could ever know.
I was on a hefty does of Morhpine (900 mg per day) for chronic pain. I weaned myself down pretty fast, and then for 5 days, I used 5 mg. of Mehtadone, then CT. At present I am taking a couple (2)Ultram per day. I hardly went through any WD at all, except for one week of depression. I feel great now. My question is, can I take the Ultram for a week or two, or will it cause me some problems. I've heard many horror stories about Ultram, and don't want to go there. I have no cravings whatsoever, and I'm so greatful for that. Thanks for any comments or advice.
Burn
I've just posted once, but have been lurking for a year and a half. You're all so kind and generous, I feel like I know some of you. This site has helped me more than you could ever know.
I was on a hefty does of Morhpine (900 mg per day) for chronic pain. I weaned myself down pretty fast, and then for 5 days, I used 5 mg. of Mehtadone, then CT. At present I am taking a couple (2)Ultram per day. I hardly went through any WD at all, except for one week of depression. I feel great now. My question is, can I take the Ultram for a week or two, or will it cause me some problems. I've heard many horror stories about Ultram, and don't want to go there. I have no cravings whatsoever, and I'm so greatful for that. Thanks for any comments or advice.
Burn
Wow!!! What a story - -- but goingtomakeit is right - - you must start a new thread - this one is old - 2003 You will get lots of support and help - just start a new post.
hey i thought id write im a 22 yr old f who has been dealing with a horrible drug addiction since 14 yrs old where my own mother started me on it...i have oded many times been dead and got recusitated bak to life at age 16 ive lived on the streets and done many horrible things like we all do when we are using...ive been in programs my whole life rehabs half way houses residentials day programs the list goes on so i am very educated when it comes to addiction i just cant seem to get a hold of my problem i just got off 150 mg of methadone for 3 yrs straight a few months ago it was the worst thing i have ever been through in my life i was in the er 5 times in one month...im so sik and tired of this i just cant deal with it anymore i started shootin up again right after i got off the methadone but dont feel the same high even after 5 months and im glad i dont because thats what really got me to stop i was sick of usin just not to be sik even though i didnt get high ...today is my 3rd day with nothing i stare at the clock till 5 am then have horrible pains in my rib cage specially to the left side i have had hep c before and right before i was going to start the interfuron it cleared by itself which i didnt know it could do but i was only 17 when i got it and the dr. said if u have a strong immune system it can clear it...ne ways these pains feel the same they are wiked horrible i just sit there and cry and throw up littarly every 5 min. then at about 12 am i stop throwin up and it continues to happen the next day but it only happens comin off the heroin..i cant even sit with myself i take like seriously 10 or more baths a day to try and ease the pain ...is this gonna stop? i know i am a very strong girl and thats y i decided to just do this on my own and get it over with so i can be succesful in my young age since all my friends are already dead mostly..i just moved to nc from boston n dont know anyone really so i am doing this all on my own and it is so hard but im almost there.. guess i really just need some support and need to know this pain is going to pass even tho it doesnt feel like it will...does ne one get this similiar pain or no whats goin on? thanks so much im hopin tomorrow on my 4th day i feel a little better i shut my phone off and am just sittin here dealin wit this even tho i can get ne thin i want right now knowin it will make me feel better temporarily but then ill have to go through this all over again and im almost at the end sorry so long i had to write cuz i feel very alone and need the support thanks so much!
I was at 15 to 30 vics a day...quit ct 10 days ago....what a *****....feel better now...no more
reading everybody's posts sure have helped, i also have lied, stolen from loved ones..did anything i could to get more vics.i havnt taken them in 4 days, have taken darvocet to ease the w/d, but they dont get me high at all..i was taking about 30 vics per day!!! sometimes more! i lost my job of 10 years basically because of that, did get a new job i start in a few days and am trying like hell to get well before i start on monday. i took my last darvocet yesterday afternoon, and im feeling pretty well.ive found that muscle relaxers work very well for the muscle cramps/pain. please, someone remind me how will i feel better without them..physically? ive been addicted for years and i dont remember how i felt..ive lost myself.
Suboxone is bup with a naltrexone it so that poeple can't shoot it up. They are tablets that go under your tougue. Bup comes in IV or IM form and can be prescribed for pain. Suboxone can only be prescribed for three day detox. My husband had great results with IM bup at every small doses. Yes it is a pain to get filled and jump through all the hoops in the world but from what I understand totally worth it for a lot of poeple!
NO Lady Keep posting. You are a positive person and we need lots of that! love, Pammy
NO Lady Keep posting. You are a positive person and we need lots of that! love, Pammy
Okay, if buprenorphine can only be rxd by certain doctors, is there any longlasting opiate used for withdrawls that regular doctors can prescribe? What about this suboxone? Is that only by bup doctors, too? The bup doctor listed for my town isn't actually rxing it yet and doesn't know when he'll start. There's another bup doctor further away who I left a message for. So frustrating!! Any info?
Thanks for the vote of confidence! I have read some of my previous posts and it's very hard to believe that was me approx one week ago! I remember being so desperate and scared! I am living proof that things can turn around and rather quickly I might add--ONCE YOU make the decision that the drugs just aren't worth it anymore! If just one person can read some of these posts and be spared the horrors of addiction This web-sight will have done it's job!Thanks so much for caring-- I hope you are doing well pammy--Peace and Prayers--Mystere/AKA N.O. Lady
Anne
Anne
I have always had access to vicodin for migranes but never used them on a regular bases.18mos ago I lost my 25yr old son.I started taking vikes for headaches and found it numb me from some of my grief.I got so I would take them to keep me from crying all the time. 6 to 8 a day.Three weeks ago I decided it was time to face the facts and get off the vikes only to find out I couldn't stop. I was freaked and started looking for answers and accidently found all of you.all of you have inlightend me a great deal.I had no idea.all of you gave me the strength to tell my husband and my daughter.they are both very supportive but we have no clue except what I've leared from you. My husband is taking a week off to take me somewhere to try cold turkey.meanwhile I'm at4to6 a day.the sad part is I never understood my son He died from vicdin OD. I understand now to late and I am so sorry.
Does anyone know why this forum was tried to be shut down before there were Doctors involved? I guess I think it is an absolute "GOD SEND". And I saw a comment, pertaining to the fact that it was apparently critisized by some people, until the Drs. opinions were added. I guess I can't figure how something that could save someones life, would be put down.It is a lifeline for some of us.(And I do mean LIFELINE.)
Does anyone know why this forum was tried to be shut down before there were Doctors involved? I guess I think it is an absolute "GOD SEND". And I saw a comment, pertaining to the fact that it was apparently critisized by some people, until the Drs. opinions were added. I guess I can't figure how something that could save someones life, would be put down.It is a lifeline for some of us.(And I do mean LIFELINE.)
THere is a Discovery House on this side of PA too! Man they must be making a ton of money! I feel bad for some of my friends who were so in need of a solution to thier addiction and started in with the clinic. They did restart thier lives but now they have to come off of high doses. Methadone from what I understand is the worst kick ever. Withdrawals can last for months and months however chronic severe pain patients sometimes require this high level of care. For many of them there are no other options to lead a productive life. I guess it is a good and bad thing, and a personal choice. Pamela
hi pam,
discovery house, is a m clinic in pa , there are a few of them.
it is a 100 a week, for a year commitment,
liquid handcuffs.
peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!hippy
discovery house, is a m clinic in pa , there are a few of them.
it is a 100 a week, for a year commitment,
liquid handcuffs.
peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!hippy
Hippy I have lost a few junkies friends that way. Thinking they could go back to thier old use. Some very young, it is very sad.
Melly did you call a methadone clinic to see how much it is a week? I am not suprised that your insurance will not cover it most do not. But inpatient treatment that is a surprise. That kind a sucks not to have that option you know? At least you can do the out patient treatment counseling. Hope it helps!
NO Lady, girl go back and read your post from a week ago! What a difference! Keep your chin up! Pamela
Melly did you call a methadone clinic to see how much it is a week? I am not suprised that your insurance will not cover it most do not. But inpatient treatment that is a surprise. That kind a sucks not to have that option you know? At least you can do the out patient treatment counseling. Hope it helps!
NO Lady, girl go back and read your post from a week ago! What a difference! Keep your chin up! Pamela
yo pax , hippy here,
one thing i wanted to mention ,
when we stop taking say 5 80's
for a month or so, our tolerence started to go down,
many addicts have gotten clean for a while and then went and used
the big mistake is they jump right back to the amount they were last taking , this is an easy way to die. , i have senn many
friends go this path .
if you relapse take it slow.
peace!!!!!!!hippy
one thing i wanted to mention ,
when we stop taking say 5 80's
for a month or so, our tolerence started to go down,
many addicts have gotten clean for a while and then went and used
the big mistake is they jump right back to the amount they were last taking , this is an easy way to die. , i have senn many
friends go this path .
if you relapse take it slow.
peace!!!!!!!hippy
I forgot--things are better than ever with hubby--he seems to share Jack Trinpey's philosophy--"Just Quit"--just quit taking those pills that have been making your life a living hell--What a concept! And when you really really look at it it is not all that complicated!--I think we addicts like to complicate things anyway--Have fun with laundry--I'm off to check the breeding paper on my desk-AH Yes beaurocracy Gotta Love It!
Peace & Prayers Mystere/AKA N. O. LAdy
Anne
Peace & Prayers Mystere/AKA N. O. LAdy
Anne
Good morning my guardian Angel--AH Yes I came "of age" during the so-called "Tacky" decade--I graduated H.S. in 1973--30 freakin yrs ago? Those were the days--bell-bottoms,disco,"hot pants"--Day 10 and standing strong! I find it getting much easier to atay focused--I love reading your posts--Especially if the "BEAST" tries to rear it's ugly head--I hope you have a great day--I'll probably post from work--Thank God I work for a friend because I would have been fired long ago! Peace & Prayers my love Mystere/AKA N.O. Lady
Anne
Anne
hi i just read your post and i am new at this as well and all i can say to you is that i found about about a new drug called buprenorphine it is a treatment for opiate abuse and it is suppose to be a lower dose then methadone and from what i have read it is a new treatment for opiate abuse and that is what i am looking into myself and it could be used alone or in combination with naxalone so you can always check in to that and the best thing that i have read about that is that you can do it as a outpatient. it is suppose to help stop the withdrawl which is hell for me so im looking forward to finding out some info about this new treatment and i pray that it works your not alone in this hell... good luck to you and everyone
gamzz
gamzz
Day 6 is over! Man, they are taking me thru the ringer at work-if one more thing goes wrong I am going to scream. Glad to know that they can't "see" the change or else they would not be in my office. :>) Hope everyone is doin fine! Did have a strong cravin today when things start goin to ****. I am still a little too tired to deal with the b/s. BUT- I will!
It is Rick's pool night, first one tab free, so I think I will go support him out there, he's worried about his "game" he is shootin just fine here, I keep tellin him he will probably shoot better. Thanks again EVERYONE!!!!! Keep tryin!
It is Rick's pool night, first one tab free, so I think I will go support him out there, he's worried about his "game" he is shootin just fine here, I keep tellin him he will probably shoot better. Thanks again EVERYONE!!!!! Keep tryin!
I know exactly how you feel! My world came crashing down approx 2 weeks ago due to my addiction! My husband caught me in a whopper of a lie about refilling my hydrocodone and I was never so scared and ashamed in my life! I thought I had lost the man I adore and love more than life itself! (I'm sure some of my cries for help are still on the forum if you look down far enough). My husband was devestated (a physician) and could not believe that I was capable of what I had done--While taking those @#@#ing pills I did things I thought I would never do in a million years!--Lie to the people I love and care about the most/actually steal pills from friend's medicine cabinets (I still can't believe I did that one--BUT I DID!) Soooo when my dirty little secret came out a decision had to be made--My wonderful life back or those demon pills!--I am on day 9 of post hydro-hell and things couldn't be better! I promise you if you are serious about getting off of the pills things will work out!
I'm not saying it's easy but if you have made it 48 hrs you're almost there!--Please read the thomas recipe it really does help and read and post often--THAT kept me from losing my mind! You are in my prayers because I DO KNOW the Hell on earth that you are going through--BUT you can come out the other side! And it looks pretty damn great! Take care N.O. Lady AKA Mystere
I'm not saying it's easy but if you have made it 48 hrs you're almost there!--Please read the thomas recipe it really does help and read and post often--THAT kept me from losing my mind! You are in my prayers because I DO KNOW the Hell on earth that you are going through--BUT you can come out the other side! And it looks pretty damn great! Take care N.O. Lady AKA Mystere
First time poster, I've been reading for about a month. Here's my story, any help you all can give will be helpful.
I'm 22/m and have a 3 year old son. I'm divorced and about 1 year away from obtaining my B.S. degree in mechanical engineering. When I was 20 I got hooked on Nubain, first IM and then moved to shooting it IV. Then oxycontin rolls around and I become fully addicted to it for about 6 months. I ODed and was in a coma for about 30 hours and came out with no damage whatsoever (to everyone's amazement). I continued using for a month, until the semester of college ended, then went to rehab. I stayed clean for a while, got divorced, and then started taking Lortab about 6 months ago. Things got stressful at school this spring (14 credit hours) and I moved up to oxycontin. I crush and snort it, because I will never use another neddle ever. Not that it's any different once it's in your system, but it's just a promise I made myself. I have tapered down to snorting about 30 mg per day...about 10mg in the morning, 10 in the evening, and 10mg a few hours before bedtime. I will probably move to about 5 mg in the afternoon and maybe 10mg a night. All of you seem to know that once you taper down to that much, it's easy, but after that the slightest decrease feels about like cold turkey. I work 32 hours a week a have class everynight, and have custody of my son bi-weekly. Hydro and Oxycodone make me feel like superman, so I tend to make straight A's when I'm taking them. I also have a bit of social anxiety and opiates cure that 100%! Of coarse, when the addiction sets in good, my grades drop, and I get very anxious around people, especially when I try to quit...nothing gets done. So, now that you all know me as good as I feel I know you all, here's my questions:
What are good OTC drugs to take for the withdrawals? Are there any good foods, drinks, etc to help easy the symptoms and speed up the detoxification? Any herbal medicines, OTC drugs, anything...I'll try it. Just post what works best for you. Also, I might just try cold turkey during a week when I don't have custody, and this semester will be over at 6:30 PM tonight when I take my last final exam. I'm going to Cancun May 9th so I think that would be the perfect beginning to sobriety again. Thank you all for your help. I hope this post works (first time poster here) and I hope there is enough room for more resposes...I wish I could have posted a new question, but it said the site was full. I look forward to getting to know all of you better, this site is truely great!
Stephen
P.S. I am a co-op student with the army missile command, I have a security clearance and have to sign a medical release among other things every five years for renewal. I would much rather fo this on my own, without doctors. I have access to phenergan and xanax, though. I never have any problem becoming addicted to any drugs or alcohol besides opiates.
I'm 22/m and have a 3 year old son. I'm divorced and about 1 year away from obtaining my B.S. degree in mechanical engineering. When I was 20 I got hooked on Nubain, first IM and then moved to shooting it IV. Then oxycontin rolls around and I become fully addicted to it for about 6 months. I ODed and was in a coma for about 30 hours and came out with no damage whatsoever (to everyone's amazement). I continued using for a month, until the semester of college ended, then went to rehab. I stayed clean for a while, got divorced, and then started taking Lortab about 6 months ago. Things got stressful at school this spring (14 credit hours) and I moved up to oxycontin. I crush and snort it, because I will never use another neddle ever. Not that it's any different once it's in your system, but it's just a promise I made myself. I have tapered down to snorting about 30 mg per day...about 10mg in the morning, 10 in the evening, and 10mg a few hours before bedtime. I will probably move to about 5 mg in the afternoon and maybe 10mg a night. All of you seem to know that once you taper down to that much, it's easy, but after that the slightest decrease feels about like cold turkey. I work 32 hours a week a have class everynight, and have custody of my son bi-weekly. Hydro and Oxycodone make me feel like superman, so I tend to make straight A's when I'm taking them. I also have a bit of social anxiety and opiates cure that 100%! Of coarse, when the addiction sets in good, my grades drop, and I get very anxious around people, especially when I try to quit...nothing gets done. So, now that you all know me as good as I feel I know you all, here's my questions:
What are good OTC drugs to take for the withdrawals? Are there any good foods, drinks, etc to help easy the symptoms and speed up the detoxification? Any herbal medicines, OTC drugs, anything...I'll try it. Just post what works best for you. Also, I might just try cold turkey during a week when I don't have custody, and this semester will be over at 6:30 PM tonight when I take my last final exam. I'm going to Cancun May 9th so I think that would be the perfect beginning to sobriety again. Thank you all for your help. I hope this post works (first time poster here) and I hope there is enough room for more resposes...I wish I could have posted a new question, but it said the site was full. I look forward to getting to know all of you better, this site is truely great!
Stephen
P.S. I am a co-op student with the army missile command, I have a security clearance and have to sign a medical release among other things every five years for renewal. I would much rather fo this on my own, without doctors. I have access to phenergan and xanax, though. I never have any problem becoming addicted to any drugs or alcohol besides opiates.
Hello everyone
I just wanted to post and say hello. I got to day 9 in February. Today I am back at day nine. My tolerance before I quit last week was 6 of anything 4 sometimes five times a day.
Vicodan Percodan Lorrys you name it I took it.
I made it through Easter and refused to by any thing else since.
I was very lucky and a friend gave me 12 methadone to taper with. I have had next to no withdrawel symptoms and with Thomas's recipe I have even been sleeping. I used 4 the first day none the second 3 the third 2 the forth 2 the fifth none the 6th one the 7th. My Doctor gave me a new antidepressant Lexapro seems to be helping also.
I hope I can do it this time. I woke up the day before Easter and my Kidneys both hurt very badly. I dreamed I died the night before and my children had to find me but i couldnt talk to them any more.
I have two little ones and it is very difficult for me to manage with out my pain medications but I have to try and make it this time'. My older children are extremely lazy because they were used to super mom that worked full time and took care of everything including the youngest who was 2 when i got hurt.
i have had one surgery on my neck and my lower back the have been trying to fix for over a year now. I cant function with the pain but the pain pills are going to kill me if i dont stay off of them.
They are way too easy for me to get. I get some from my doctor and if i need more I was a bartender for 15 years I can get any drug i want delivered to my front door with one phone call unfortunately for me.
I have not even answered my phone the last couple days because that is how i blew it the last time after nine days.
thomas recipe and a good vitamin is the best!!!!
the people here are very understanding and helpful even to those of us that have tried several times and failed miserably
Good luck and God Bless to every one we all have our demons to conquer. I hope that this time I will win and my children will have their mommy back again.
I do know exactly what you mean when you say you need your pill to get out of bed. You just have to find other motiovation.
Music is a great motivator.........or smoke a big fat one!!!
Many thanks
cleo101
I just wanted to post and say hello. I got to day 9 in February. Today I am back at day nine. My tolerance before I quit last week was 6 of anything 4 sometimes five times a day.
Vicodan Percodan Lorrys you name it I took it.
I made it through Easter and refused to by any thing else since.
I was very lucky and a friend gave me 12 methadone to taper with. I have had next to no withdrawel symptoms and with Thomas's recipe I have even been sleeping. I used 4 the first day none the second 3 the third 2 the forth 2 the fifth none the 6th one the 7th. My Doctor gave me a new antidepressant Lexapro seems to be helping also.
I hope I can do it this time. I woke up the day before Easter and my Kidneys both hurt very badly. I dreamed I died the night before and my children had to find me but i couldnt talk to them any more.
I have two little ones and it is very difficult for me to manage with out my pain medications but I have to try and make it this time'. My older children are extremely lazy because they were used to super mom that worked full time and took care of everything including the youngest who was 2 when i got hurt.
i have had one surgery on my neck and my lower back the have been trying to fix for over a year now. I cant function with the pain but the pain pills are going to kill me if i dont stay off of them.
They are way too easy for me to get. I get some from my doctor and if i need more I was a bartender for 15 years I can get any drug i want delivered to my front door with one phone call unfortunately for me.
I have not even answered my phone the last couple days because that is how i blew it the last time after nine days.
thomas recipe and a good vitamin is the best!!!!
the people here are very understanding and helpful even to those of us that have tried several times and failed miserably
Good luck and God Bless to every one we all have our demons to conquer. I hope that this time I will win and my children will have their mommy back again.
I do know exactly what you mean when you say you need your pill to get out of bed. You just have to find other motiovation.
Music is a great motivator.........or smoke a big fat one!!!
Many thanks
cleo101
Missile Command snorting Oxy????? OK I feel safer. I have no experience with recreational drug use but withdrawl is withdrawl right. I went CT off IV morph it was pretty rough I take a **** load of vitamins and drank a lot of water I also drank a lot of green tea but think it just made my pee green I am not a big believer in herbs and bullshit but a lot here like the taper then stop method and something called the Thomas recipe its posted all over here. The Tyrosine made me to jittery and I don
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