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[CGTMHI]

We have noticed the postings regarding people being "banned" from this forum and our response follows:

There is a HUGE difference between mentioning God,versus telling someone that Jesus is the ONLY way to get to Heaven.  Two-thirds of the world's population is something other than Christian.

For the sake of tranquility, we ask that everyone STOP imposing their personal religious beliefs on others in this forum. There are many places you can go to discuss religion and we urge you to do so.  However, this forum is a place to discuss ADDICTION.  

The people who were banned from this forum were told that if they could refrain from imposing their personal religious ideology on others, we would gladly welcome them back.  The choice is theirs.

Med Help strives to make our forums a place where EVERYONE feels welcome & comfortable, regardless of their race, creed, nationality, sex or religion.

Cindy Thompson
Med Help International

[Bink]

I loved reading the above posts!!!!!   Such is the reason why I come here.  You are all such beautiful and REAL people.  I'm so glad you're all back online. I am only 1 week away from "The BIG DAY" (same with my husband) and I was practically getting separation anxiety just thinking that this forum might be unavailable when I may need it most!  I don't post a lot, but I usually check in daily.  Thanks to you all for being there!

Denise

[suzieneedshelp]

HONEY...SWEET WOMAN!  PLEASE PLEASE get him to hide em or throw em away!  Belive me.. i have been there.. they will call to you 24/7 until u take one!  You do not need this now.  You have done sooo well!  I will pray that you can  continue in yur recovery and take charge of this matter!
Faith in you!
Suzie

[Erika_Ann]

DONT DO IT! I know you can beat that. YOur strong girl. and we are here for YOU! You know now you have made it too far to give up for a few hours of euphoria? Your also too smart to do that.! :) Thats a compliment. Sorry long day and nothing but stress so I hope Im making sense.
Its nice to hear from you hippie even though you and I never write back and forth, you ALWAYS have such wise things to say. I admire you!:)  And its nice to know we can get back on the same track eh?
Love ya guys! Erika

[Vicqueennomore]

I put them away, I obviously know where they are but I at least got them off of this computer table. I wish I knew why he did it, I even told him that after his procedure if he gets pain meds to keep them out of my reach.....he just came in and I said I was writing about how he put the meds right in front of me and he said"Geez, I can't put stuff by my computer?" I have had next to no support from him, right Erika_Ann....something her and I have talked about our partners being unsupportive.
I keep questioning if I am in the right relationship with my issues. Not only am I going thru this recovery I am going thru questioning my relationship. I am living with a man and helping take care of his 3 kids. I cook, I clean, I do homework with them....I'm sorry, I am not in good shape right now.....

[unpilled1]

OH MY GOD!!! what a whopper of a dilemma. Get them away ASAP! Is he going to take them? If so, politely give them (all) to him and insist that they be locked or hidden away. I don't know how supportive he has been through your recovery, but either he's a bitter man about your addicttion or a total dunce. He likely is "testing" you to see if you are either serious about staying clean or taunting you out is bitterness over your using, or doesn't have a clue about what he just did. #1 DON'T take a pill - not one! #2 try not to yell at him, it will create a confrontation & set you up for relapse or will give him the upper hand in his little testing escapade. #3 insist that he put them away where you won't/can't find or get to them. If he has any understanding or compassion - he will gladly comply. #4 if he's not going to use them - flush them! #5 DON'T take a pill - NOT ONE!
Keep posting or Leave the house if you have to...
I'm pulling for you here, Vivq, go do the right thing to take care of YOU!

[Vicqueennomore]

Ok, so my BF just came home with a whole bottle of Vics cuz he just had dental work done. I am on the computer and he just throws the persciption bag down an the computer table and walks out of the room. This is the first encounter with the reality of temptation that I have had in my 30 days of sobriety. My hands are shaking I am so mad at him for doing it knowing of my addiction and I am so shaking from the temptation....I am crying cuz I don't know what to do, my addictive self just wants one, just one, my other self wants to yell at my BF for not having enough respect for me and my addiction to do that.....

[unpilled1]

Excellent post! you da man! Thanks.

[hippy]

i have been here a year now at this fourm and there has never been a problem with religion, sine during the last year that i have been here we have focused on addiction and meds ,and cronic pain patients, withdrawls from percs and oxy for the most part along with other drugs.
i have the utmost respect for rex and the other who were banned,
but we can mention god ,prayer in a general sense here at ther
medhelp fourm without much of a  to do.
so i think all will be well sharing our experence strength and hope from the horrors of addiction and the difficulty of have to take pain meds.along with our experenc with withdrawls
and how to best deal with them.

peace to all !!!!hippy

[unpilled1]

Thanks for that brief, but meaningful post. I haven't posted for several days and honestly just got tired of reading the bickering B.S. You know what they say about how an addict leaves off at the emotional age that they started their addiction process and that when they get clean, they are still at that emotional level of maturity... guess we've seen it in action. I'm 31 days clean of hydros today! Let's keep spreading the miracle to the active addict that's seeking help.
All my best to you & all,
Unpilled

[Vicqueennomore]

As I mentioned in my email, I am treading ever so lightly here, it's sad how crazy it's gotten on here in the last few days. I really enjoyed this forum and people like you previously and hope we can resume what we all are here for, to talk about our addictions and how to overcome the w/d's and the sometimes uncontrolable desire to abuse.
Thanks for being there Erika!!
Love ya!!

[Erika_Ann]

Thank you for the email. Your soooo sweet! :) Miss you! Its nice to know someone cares about me unconditionaly. (sp). rex and teeitup too! Of course!    Love ya ---Erika

[Erika_Ann]

Vicq-----we can post now! :)

[DawnInMI]

How come there are no comments being posted today?

[afriend]

I heard thru the g-vine that you are not feeling well and I wish so much that there was something I could do to help you my sweet dear! I know you've been having headaches from w/ds and hope they leave you soon. Please take care of yourself as you are ALWAYS kind, loving and caring to others. I'm sure that I can say from all of us here that we want you to know that we care and miss you, your kind thoughts, and support. Love, hugs, friends...a friend (smile sweetheart)...........................

[theGolden1]

I am so glad to see you .... I have something to share with you. I am a Christian also, and I was inspired because of your faith which you were so open about. I started realizing that I needed some real power to overcome this and I would have to take a "leap of faith" sooner or later. I began to do what Christians do .... read the scriptures and pray. Some strange things happened. I went to fill my script (that my doc increased) and I lost it somewhere on the way home. I thought I could keep an extra script around just in case .... but the good Lord knew what was best. I had enough left because I was tapering down ... so I thought it was strange, but it motivated me to continue the taper and try harder. Believe me .... I looked high and low for the pills. I kept looking and looking ..... then I saw myself and I stopped looking. I thanked God for that lesson. The next thing that happened was at church this Sunday. A friend of 20 years died suddenly on Friday of a heart attack and I was really floored. I went home very sad and began to ponder my faith again and think of the "important" things. I fell into a deep sleep and woke up the next morning rested and relaxed. The thing is I have a sleeping disorder and I take 2 ambien every night and have been taking them for a few years. I was going to work on that problem next and I asked for God's help. I was told I could never sleep without it, and I slept. Just like a normal person! These are two miracles in my life. I stand all amazed .... I would have emailed this to you ... but don't have your address.
You are doing the right thing. "Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Christ is Lord" ..... ***@****

[hippy]

hi , welcome to the fourm,
]my name is michael and i have
been here for a year , and got clean
off 15 vikes a day. with help and support
here. i also go to na meetings.
as far as the 20 mg of oxycotin they are equal to 4 --5mg perc'S
so to from 3 20 mgs oxy you would have to go to 12 --5mg prec's
a day and you can only take 8 perc's a day because they are
95 percent acetmetphine(tylonol).
if you can talk to your doctor about it and you can lower your
dose to 8 percs a day  ,you would be on your way to tapering
down. which is always good if the doctore says it is good
and your pain is not to bad.

peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hippy

[HarleyCat]

CONGRATS!!  You are awesome!!  I hope it is ok to say that I will be praying for you.  I am so proud of you!!  I haven't gone thru detox yet, but I am a great cheerleader!!  If you give me your email addy, I have ton's of cute emails to send you.  Distraction works.  I could send you a couple at different times of the day!  Then you would always have an encouraging word to look forward to.  Rex is the one of the best for detox support, as is Jerri, and gosh, just a ton of other people here.  I know this is their most favorite thing, helping someone gain their life back.  YEA!!!!

Connie
***@****

[sweetusa29]

Thank You so much for responding, Well it is very hard I have had a total of two in half of hydros today. and usually have six a day. So if you dont mind me asking harleycat what is your addiction. and if I can do it I know anyone can we can support each other, I would be very happy to give you my email address it is ***@****  and yes I would love if you would keep me in your prayers I will pray for you as well. thanks again for your help and support. Looking forward to your email.

Thank you afriend for your help and your information I really appreicate it. Just need all the support that I can get because I am just starting my detox. And it is really hard but Im going to try and not let it bother me. thank you everyone. Love, sweetusa29

[afriend]

Hi sweetusa29, I have used clonidine (also known as catapres), and it seemed to help me (some people have said that it didn't help them). Your Dr. has probably explained that it is a high blood pressure med. and helps with anxiety and the heart pounding sensation. You are under med. supervision so take whatever he offers you that may help you. If the effects do not help, tell him, and have him discontinue the use. Don't discontinue meds on your own, unless you have severe side effects, then consult your DR. immediately. Sounds like you have a very understanding Dr., and that he is willing to work with you (I didn't) Best wishes and keep posting. Were all rootin for ya.......

[Bandersnatch]

The board did'nt let me post a new question, so I guess I'll just ask it here:

I have been on both morphene and Oxycotin, and both of them help my pain, but isn't there some better medications that are less addictive? I am on 3 Oxycotin per day 20 milligrams each. If I miss any dose, I start to feel very sick. Does other pain meds have that affect? Would it be better to use percoset since I'm on kind of a low dose of oxycotin?

Thanks to all who can help

BS

[Vicqueennomore]

Thanks for wondering about me...I haven't been on here for awhile and now that I see what's been going on, WOW.
I have been sick with cold/flu/sinus and it's kicking my butt. I use to have Vicodin to cover up symptoms of illess, now that I have to deal with them "sober" I am a wuss. I have such a sinus headache I can't stand it....
I went on a job interview today and was able to put all that aside and I think I did pretty good.
Tough situation hough, boyfriend went to dentist and got Vics for pain. I know he has them but I told him to keep them out of my sight. He has but knowing he has them, wow. Day 28, cant go back now....I gotta keep that in my head no matter how bad I feel right now...thanks for thinking of me....
Love ya!!!
Tammy

[sweetusa29]

Hello everyone, how are all of you doing today. I sure hope I wasnt a problem, yesterday I posted a message and at the end of my message I said God bless you all. If that bothers anyone I wont say it then,Sorry. Also I wanted to tell everyone that I told my Doctor today and he was very, very understanding and said this happen to the best of us. and said he wouldnt put it in my file that it will be where no one else could see it. and he told me that he doesnt think I will have that bad of withdrawals, that I could have some diarreha and maybe some anxiety and handaches and he thinks I wont have to much though but he did say If I do have it bad just to come in and see him and he will give me something for diarreha and anxiety, Iam already on anxiety medicine but he said something about clonidine if I need it, I need alot of support here can you all help me and I will also support you as well. also can anyone tell me if the clonidine helped them and he also wrote me out a prescribtion of trazadone and can anyone tell me about that as well. and anything else that I should be taking. or doing. I see him Monday the 10th of febuary. Thank you all for your support. and if anyone wants to exchange emails I would love to. Oh I guess you all need to know what my addiction is hydros 5mg and I take about six a day Love, Sweetusa29

[JRex]

Cindy,

Thanks for the post.

If in my attempt to help people, I ask them to pray about it, and I tell them that in my recovery, Jesus was the most instrumental thing in helping me get clean - is this acceptable on this forum?

As I mentioned before, I am grateful that you provided this forum as it was THE PLACE where I got my sobriety back, at no expense to me. (Still need to correct that)

From this forum's point of view, it was with the help of Christians and non-Christians that I was able to get over 70 days of sobriety now.

Rex

[Erika_Ann]

Where are you girl...>? I miss hearing from you! :)
Love, Erika