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around it!! Tapering down is difficult unless someone else is
controlling your intake daily, because if it's availiable you will take it. Methadone will work, but then you have to get off
that to!!! It's an afwal cycle.
At those quantities there are almost certainly other issues besides the addiction - as in if you are buying them you must be spending a TON of money! Or if you are getting scrips, you are surely seeing more than one Doc (which is against the law, as I am sure you know....). Or you are writing you own scrips... which is even worse should you get caught. And trust me, the odds are you WILL get caught. More than likely it's a combo of these things.
My advice - go to an inpatient detox center now. Right away, before you risk any more trouble. I mean now, not tomorrow...today!! At 2400 per day it is highly unlikely you will be able to do it yourself - the drug has too strong a hold on you. Your medical troubles will be tough enough to deal with without adding legal issues!
I did this, but unfortunately my legal issues caught up with me a day after I went to Detox, and I was arrested IN the detox center (they figured out where I was - at those levels there couldnt be too many places and even though Detox is confidential, you arent safe if they have a warrant). I would give ANYTHING to not be facing the charges I now face.
The Detox wasnt as bad as I thought - 7 days of hell, for sure, but nothing like the night in jail with nothing for withdrawl. The only problem for me is 7 days wasnt enough. I still was withdrawling when I left Detox and 'slipped' when I got home and could do nothing by cry for 2 days. My plan now is legal RX only (one doc, taken as prescribed) to go back to Detox (a longer program ...30 days?? whatever it takes) as soon as I can HOPEFULLY get my charges reduced to something less than mandatory jail time.
My legal problems are severe - if you going to Detox today means you won't end up like me, its worth it!!! Possession of greater than 3 times the evarage daily dose, which is 3 pills as the law here sees it (per the PDR) is classed as a 2nd degree Felony which is not a probationable offense. A prescription filled that shouldnt be (duplicate doctors, forged scrip, etc.) is all they need to 'prove' the possession part - you don;t even have to be caught with the pills. I had NO pills when they came to my house and wasnt even home (as I said, I was in Detox)but I'm still in BIG trouble. My only hope is someone will have mercy on me in my trial and drop the charges to a 3rd or 4th degree felony and give me probation so I can stay with my family.
Ive never been in trouble before for anything either.
Do yourself a favor and avoid the mess I'm in.
Getting away from the Oxies at your level is going to require more than a short program - dont let them (Detox facility) tell you 3-5 days will do it. Most places have very little experience with the high levels you describe and treate everyone the same. The same didnt work for me, and probably wont for you, I believe with a longer program (30 days?) you have a good chance of beating this. And frmo people I have spoken with, Rapid Detox isn't much of an answer either. You will need the time to deal with life without oxy.
Please write back with any questions if I havent written enough to convince you to go to detox right away, If you are like I was, you probably think you can wait a little while longer. But that extra day may be the day you have TWO problems (legal and medical). Don;t let it happen!
At those quantities there are almost certainly other issues besides the addiction - as in if you are buying them you must be spending a TON of money! Or if you are getting scrips, you are surely seeing more than one Doc (which is against the law, as I am sure you know....). Or you are writing you own scrips... which is even worse should you get caught. And trust me, the odds are you WILL get caught. More than likely it's a combo of these things.
My advice - go to an inpatient detox center now. Right away, before you risk any more trouble. I mean now, not tomorrow...today!! At 2400 per day it is highly unlikely you will be able to do it yourself - the drug has too strong a hold on you. Your medical troubles will be tough enough to deal with without adding legal issues!
I did this, but unfortunately my legal issues caught up with me a day after I went to Detox, and I was arrested IN the detox center (they figured out where I was - at those levels there couldnt be too many places and even though Detox is confidential, you arent safe if they have a warrant). I would give ANYTHING to not be facing the charges I now face.
The Detox wasnt as bad as I thought - 7 days of hell, for sure, but nothing like the night in jail with nothing for withdrawl. The only problem for me is 7 days wasnt enough. I still was withdrawling when I left Detox and 'slipped' when I got home and could do nothing by cry for 2 days. My plan now is legal RX only (one doc, taken as prescribed) to go back to Detox (a longer program ...30 days?? whatever it takes) as soon as I can HOPEFULLY get my charges reduced to something less than mandatory jail time.
My legal problems are severe - if you going to Detox today means you won't end up like me, its worth it!!! Possession of greater than 3 times the evarage daily dose, which is 3 pills as the law here sees it (per the PDR) is classed as a 2nd degree Felony which is not a probationable offense. A prescription filled that shouldnt be (duplicate doctors, forged scrip, etc.) is all they need to 'prove' the possession part - you don;t even have to be caught with the pills. I had NO pills when they came to my house and wasnt even home (as I said, I was in Detox)but I'm still in BIG trouble. My only hope is someone will have mercy on me in my trial and drop the charges to a 3rd or 4th degree felony and give me probation so I can stay with my family.
Ive never been in trouble before for anything either.
Do yourself a favor and avoid the mess I'm in.
Getting away from the Oxies at your level is going to require more than a short program - dont let them (Detox facility) tell you 3-5 days will do it. Most places have very little experience with the high levels you describe and treate everyone the same. The same didnt work for me, and probably wont for you, I believe with a longer program (30 days?) you have a good chance of beating this. And frmo people I have spoken with, Rapid Detox isn't much of an answer either. You will need the time to deal with life without oxy.
Please write back with any questions if I havent written enough to convince you to go to detox right away, If you are like I was, you probably think you can wait a little while longer. But that extra day may be the day you have TWO problems (legal and medical). Don;t let it happen!
Problem is if you take methadone you will be replacing one addiction for another so effectively have to go through cold turkey twice - unfortunately their is no easy way.
I have just come off Oxycontin (3 weeks ago), I did it at home with a supportive family, and some Lofexidiene (have to admit it didn't do a great deal - I was just not going to take methadone etc...just another thing to come off!).
Do it with a Doc, the pain is unbearable and without someone medical at least knowing what you are going thru its a lonley and scary place.
Trust me that even when the pain is at its worst and seems to go on for a lifetime, you do get through it, stay calm, try not to fear, just breathe, and make sure you keep your fluids up. Tell eveyone around you to be patient, supportive and encouraging - it takes as long as it takes - but doesn;t last forever.
Small steps - but speak to a doc as Im not sure how hard your system will take going from 2000 odd to nothing, you may to go on some sort of reduction program, like reducing 10mg per day - that should be better, although doing that you will have some symptoms of cold turkey.
So its either - a long drawn out process or shorter and more painful.
The options aren't great - but its worth it when you are on the other side.
I'm still here and better for it!
Good luck x Mia
Hi
I'm new to these forums, due unfortunately to the worst weekend of my entire life.
This drug (Oxycontin is a monster!!!! Get off it as soon as you can.
I have suffered chronic back pain for the past 10 months. The pain is almost unbearable at times.
After all else failed, my GP prescribed me 40mg oxycontin daily.
Wonder of wonders!!! they worked and I was almost pain free for a couple of weeks.
After 6 weeks, they didn't work so well, and I was on the brink of going back to the GP to have my dose increased.
A few wees ago, I ran out and ordered an emergency prescription.
Cutting a very long story short, my husband forgot to pick up the prescription so I had to wait and go without the drug all weekend.
Within 24 hours I was shaking, couldn't breathe, coughing, shivers chills the lot.
Basically, I realised I was suffering withdrawal symptoms.
I had the worst weekend of my life and have never felt so ill.
If I had an oxycontin in the house, I would have taken the damn thing to make me feel better and for these awful symptoms to go away.
While checking the withdrawal symptoms for the monster drug, I came across an old forum linked to this site, full of what I can only describe as a forum of ' lost souls'
Mostly all very genuine people like me, normal housewives, and husbands who were not drug abusers, but given oxycontin for genuine back pain.
They were all pitifully addicted to this drug and had no hope of getting off it.
Their lives were in ruins and they had no hope.
The withdrawal symptoms that hit me after 6 shorts weeks of use, were monsterous.
These poor lost souls were on a higher dose than me, and had no hope of quitting.
Needless to say, after doing my cold turkey, I have not gone back on the tablets and am suffering terribly again and my quality of life is zero sometimes.
Please please stop taking Oxycontin if you can.... it's a monster drug and highly addictive.
Don't end up suffering like me and the forum of lost souls.
I sencerely hope you all manage to find some alternative.
Kindest regards
Layne
Thank you very much.
EM45, suboxone is not supposed to cause those side effects, my guess he is not taking suboxone and is using again. It seems like you like him, so it is my opinion that issuing an ultimatem is not the solution, be supportive and realize that relapse is easy, almost beyond our control, and the chances of staying clean are increased when there is a strong support structure around the person.
I pick up weekly rather than having a months supply in the house ( yikes ). It has been a most effective drug where EVERYTHING else has failed. The injury cant be fixed and I have been told that I will be on pain releif for ever. Next week however my Dr has been told by the Drug Administration Authority to change my medication to a weekly 10 Microgram Norsban Patch. At one point when I had been low on my supply of Oxy I actually chewed one of these patches hoping to get some releif both from the pain and the addiction. Didnt do a damned thing. So what the hell is one patch per week going to do for me. This is the level of care that the Australian Drug Administration Authority has for the people who it has willingly supplied this monsterous drug to.
Without question my wife and my son are going to suffer as I wont be getting out of bed for god knows how long let alone the pain I myself will be going through. The MIS management of this drug is incredible in this country but compared to the UK and USA we have it good. Those countries have a real problem. Anyway our problems are never going to get any better or close to being solved when IDIOT beurocrats have the final say. At NO point has a plan for my withdrawel been discussed.
I have a dissabled wife to care for as well as a 15 Year old son to raise. We live 40 Kms from the nearest town let alone Hospital.
GREAT health Sytem when " normal" EX hard working Australians are treated so shabily.
Charlie
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ps. do youy realize youve answered to a post thats quite old. you can post your own post anythime. you dont have to be on any certain post i mean.
I stead of Oxy you take Metadone or Subutex for a few weeks and get down to the right level and start there and try not to get over the level Oxy the doctor prescribe! Any comments to my way to get out off my problem on?
If you need help, please go to the main medhelp home page and search drug abuse then oxycontin.
This will put you on the right track to all the current posts on this subject and you will get all the helpful and vaulable advice you need.
My best wishes to you all
Layne an ex oxycontin user.
from aeb54
Best wishes
Layne
Under A click on Addiction: Substance Abuse
All the forums for drug abuse will be here.
http://www.medhelp.org/forums/show/77
It is so good that somebody care. I have a problem and i want to get off anyway.
This is an Monsterpill. I have tryed a lot off pills for my pain back and have too use someting, but what I dont know longer. It is a good painkiller the best I ever tryed, but the sideeffects is not good. After 6-7 hour I am i pain again and the doc told me they will hold me painfree 12 hours. But NO WAY! But I have too use someting and what should it be? Tryed Buprenorfin Patch 20 microgram/hour, but after 1 and a half year they didnt work anymore.
Have a nice day Layne2000 and thank you again
aeb54 (Norway)
Yes I do care because I was on this drug for back pain and know the horrors of what it can do to you.
I am off it now, but if I can help just one person by directing them to the correct forum for help, then it's worth me keep coming on here :)
My full story is above if you care to read it.
Once again thank you for the thank you lol
and I wish you every success in the future.
Layne
p.s. Feel free to add me to your buddy (friends list) or post on here, I would like to know how you get on. :)
-- SO to get to the point. I went to go see the doctor for help to relieve me from the pain of w/d's. Straight up the doctor said to me "Another one, this is by far the greatest epidemic in our city". You will not make it going cold turkey. He did ask me if I wanted to try methadone. But honestly. I didn't want to go to a clinic every single day. Nor did I want to have to do the treatment for 2 years, if not more. So he weaned me off. I was doing 80mg 3 times a day. I immediately went to 60mg 3 times a day. This week i'm doing 40mg every am, 40 mg every pm and 60 mg every night. Next week, 40. 40. 40. Even on this regime. I can still feel the w/d's starting. For some reason they occur quicker and at predictable times. I'm releaved with 2 valiums every night to help me through night time w/d's. And it works.
The first night that I went to see the doctor I wanted to inqure about online support and I typed in life after oxycontins and i found a discussion board on this site. I am honestly so truthfully in admiration of everyone on this site. You are all an inspriation to me. You are all so kind, and helpful and amazingly brave and at the same time willing to share your own life experiences to help other people. Thank you. Thank you honestly from the bottom of my heart to everyone. Because together we will stay strong. I know that when i'm nearing the end of my prescription and the milligrams are running out. I will turn to you guys for words of comfort and strength and positive reinforcement. I have never felt so *important* and really listened to. And the thing is is that I care just as much back.
Thank you. Thank you so much to All. You are my inspiration and b/c of all of your kind hearts. I know that I will be successful :)
God Bless!
I have nothing but admiration for you :)
I really feel in life.. If you want something bad enough with a lot of courage and most of all determination ... it will happen.
You seem to have both :)
You can do this Mander.... you can beat this monster and get your life back :)
Tomorrow is the first day of the rest of your life :)
Your future can be as bright as you want it to be. You just have to wan't it bad enough.
Be proud of yourself and make your famil proud. :)
Go girl lol
Report back and let us know how good your doing.
thanks
-Dub
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Good luck with your problem. I was there once for a short time.... never again
I suggest the drug Suboxone; you can usually find doctors in your area that prescribe it online. The advantages are many.. It is absorbed almost immediately sublingually, and while I still experienced very minor withdrawal symptoms, it was definitely tolerable. I don't know your situation or even if you were abusing them, but in many cases, in patient treatment (in a place where they WILL medicate you) is necessary. I went to a 30 day treatment facility and was placed on an 8 day suboxone taper. I tried the methadone route, cold turkey, and just trying to cut down, but I was so deep in my addiction that none of those would work.
I know different methods of detox work for different people, and I sincerely hope you find one that's right for you. The route I went, however, saved my life. After overdoses, and a $300/day habit, it feels damn good to be almost six months clean! That and a good twelve step program. If you have any questions that you'd rather ask someone who's been there instead of a doctor, feel free to hit me up.