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1069452 tn?1256600037

Scared to death about withdrawl systoms

I am new to this site , But have read alot for days..And you guys are GREAT!!!  I am getting ready to go off opiates..They are runing my life...I get a scrip for 60 5s lortab a month,but i also take around 40 percoset 10s  a month...I take around 60mgs daily ...I have for about 4 years starting off with 10mg daily up to 60mg now...I have heard the withdrawls are awful...Does anything help with the withdrawls if so please help me...And how long do they last...I hate the pills such a bother use to give me energy...now nothing...Started taking because I have arthristis in my knees..I hate being controled by pills...I have a sister that is a mojor drug addit...I was so against drugs ..And then i hurt and took 1 and thought wow this is great and soforth...Please help anything will be appreciated ..I heard alot about a recipe but cant find it ...Really dont even know if i am posting on the right board or not ...thx
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How are you doing? It is now Tuesday. I think there is such a thing as reading too much about WD. I once got myself so scared about WD and tried to control everything and worked myself up into such a state! And....it was not even that bad. All the anticipatory stuff was much worse than the actual wd which started to get better, to my surprise, on day 4. Remember that probably when you were a child you had much worse flu illnesses. Take things one day or one hour at a time and you will be fine. Remember also that the drug is trying to frighten you out of quitting. Don't listen.
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to swtgyrl,

you are right. everyone has a different regimine. so i will keep it simple. i am clean almost 2 yrs now.

tappering is the best way if you are over chasing the high. if you do it slowly this way, you will not have the severe symptoms and no need for additional scripts to help you along.
the xanax will have to be tappered off of as well.
i never threw up through the whole thing.

some good things to have on hand:
ommodium- for the bathroom issue. when this comes you know you are near the end of it.
a couple of sleeping pills or something for sleep- only to be used in an emergency. like a couple days of no sleep or more. never to be taken 2 days in a row. don't want to mess up sleeping with taking something every nite to do it. (xanax may be messing this up already. try to take it at a different time)
i only needed to take 1 once. it was like my 4th day of quitting altogether.

you may not experience  the same horror stories you are reading. some people have it mild. just be ready for the worst.

i waited to introduce all the vitamins and aminos and really good diet until my quit date. (tappered for a month) figured that maybe getting good nutrition would be another boost to feeling better after.

after all my research, i came up with this:
l-glutamine 500mg- 3 times a day
l-theanine- as needed (acts like valium)
l-methionine 500mg- 2 times a day
valarian root 1,000-1,500 - as needed (reduces anxiety) can be taken every 4 hrs.

B-vitamin complex 100mg-1 in the morning
a multivitamin- in the morning
vitamin c with bioflavinoids- 3 times a day

high protein diet (chicken, eggs, not so much dairy may be hard on your stomache)
fresh vegtables and fruits (you get more benefits if they are eaten raw )
whole foods (not processed. just real food in its natural state)

take naps whenever you are tired. the more sleep you get the better. that is when our body does it's healing.
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1069452 tn?1256600037
I am gonna start tapering down Monday....I have so many things written down to buy...Now I am confused on what to take why to take it and when to take it..lol...I also take 0.25 xanax at nighttime have for a year....am suppose to take 2 a day but i dont so i have some extras...I hate throwing up cant tell you how bad i hate it ...it scares me...Wondering if i can take phengen with the xanax? and what vitiamns and aminos i should take and when and for what?   so so so sorry for not understanding just that everyone sayd different and now i am so confused ...
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What day of your WD will Monday be? If you have only just started that might be difficult.

Its good to know you are sorting your life out, a bit more info is needed to give any useful advice though.
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1065662 tn?1254965167
Everyone has their own opinion for treatment, everyon takes their DOC for their own reason, there is not patented way to stop I was taking 14 X 30MG OC a day and just like you was scared of **** to stop because of the WD. I used my last script to taper to 1X30MG a day. I started with 16MG Sub at Day1, Day2 8MG, Day3 hour 4.5 MG, Day 4  2MG and today I do not plan on taking anything but if I feel I do need it will be less than . The key for me was tapering on my DOC just to the point where I would not get a buzz and dealing with it. I had some craving last night from 5PM till I went to bed, but I just toke a half of xanax, woke was offered my sub and refused it. Only unless you are willing to rapid than I would say read about sub, talk with people, read again. As users, the Doc who rx you sub knows $hit about it, do not go with their treatment regiment, you need to know you metabolism because a sub day is 37 hrs. It has been 5 days since my last OC and 4 days on sub I have reduces my intake by over 90%.. But you have to read about it, Sub is just as dangerous if not more than your DOC. Do not take sub unless you really understand it, do not go into it half A$$’ed  DO YOUR RESEARCH.
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My name is Joe Ann, I'm a wife and mother of 4 I have been taking hydo and percocite for about 4 years now. I'm with all your help I'm going to try to quit I can't stand feeling this way anymore. I started some withdrawl not to bad. I'm worried because tomorrow I start a new job and I don't want to be sick. What can I do?
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I know just how you feel and no doubt so many others here can relate pretty much everything you just said PDitty.

You just can't trust any emotions you feel right now, the pills, partial WD, more pills, repeat, it just messes everything up and makes the fight that much harder. Tapering is an option for some but simply drawing a line and swearing to yourself never ever to take another pill is in someways easier. Of course WD is horrible but once its over its done, at least the physical part and frankly going through that process properly has really helped me find the resolve not to relapse as I am NOT going through that again.

I didn't use it myself but lots here say the Thomas stuff does reduce the symptoms so I'm sure thats worth a try. After those few bad days are out the way you will still be on an emotional rollercoaster for some time if my experience is anything to go by, you can ride it out, just try not to make any major decisions at the time though. Getting support from friends, family, NA, again all that can help.

I can't say it will be easy but if you have the resolve you can get your life back and from the tone of your post I believe you do have what you need. Don't give up on yourself - its a fight you can and WILL win.
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I am so glad to have found this forum, it has helped me immensely to see others going through the same thing that I have experienced.  I took my last hydrocodone 18 hours ago, and am feeling a little sick.  I have not started the thomas recipe, there are a few things that I need to pick up.  I am sick and tired of being controlled by these pills.  I just can't afford it anymore.  at my worst I was taking 8-5/500 hydro's a day.  My doctor does understand I am addicted to this vicodin, and he is trying to "slowly" wean me off of them.  I am at 90/month now, but am always short by about 10 days, and have no where to go, but withdraw, until I can get my next fix from somewhere...excuse me why i cry of shame...I just can't believe I am in this predicament.  I was in a car accident 3 yrs ago, barreled into a house head on, breaks didn't work, (no alcohol was involved, long story).  I have been on vicodin since.  Please help me.  I'm done, but very, very depressed and emotional.  Sometimes I feel that I just can't go on.  How do people get thru this?
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Hey there.  I'm im in the same position as you.  About a year and a half ago I was prescribed hydrocodones, 5/500, because of a torn miniscus, which is the cartilage in the knee, and was on them for about a year.  I finally quit by weaning off and was doing great for about two months.  Stupidly, a couple of months ago, a friend gave me five pills of 10mg hydrocodones and I thought it would be great if I took them just to have a "happy day."  All it did, was throw me back where I started.  Of course, I didn't get the prescriptions from my doctor anymore, so I had to find other means of getting them.  This included asking around until I got to some shady people who charge about $3 a pill.  I also strolled into the emergency room a few times and made up stories about a fake back ache to get my prescriptions.  I felt low and humiliated.  I have four pills in my bottle and about to go cold turkey.  Last week, I ran out and got a taste of what withdrawals are gonna be like.  Physically, I had a constant runny nose, chills and goosebumps all day, and watery eyes and my legs started to ache around 6pm as I was waiting in line at the pharmacy to get my prescription filled after visiting the local Urgent Care clinic.  But the worse was emotionally.  Depression and anxiety, completely unmotivated and tired.  But you know what?  We don't have a choice.  I have four pills which I will do my best to split into two days and then I'm done for good.  I'm 35 y/o, married to a beautiful wife whose five months pregnant with a little girl, and I already have a seven year old son.  What was I thinking?  But we can't cry over spilled milk, as corny as that sounds.  We're where we are.  It is what it is.  You and I, and thousands of others in this forum and around the world are going through the same thing.  Only we understand what's going on and the rest of the world who has never been through this, cannot comprehend, and I don't expect them to.  You can't worry about what people might think.  Just do what you have to do and quitting is the right choice.  I'm with you and keep in touch.  Let's do it together and if you slip up once or twice, keep going.  Eventually, and in a short time, we will be pill-free.  
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198154 tn?1337787265
SwtGyrl69- you have a message

mommy408- you have a message
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I am right there with you girl. I'm scared of w/d's...mainly because I have two small children...they are also the main reason I want to quit these pills. I have two daughters and I HAVE to be a good role model for them! Oh, and I know what it's like to be against drugs then end up an addict yourself. I have family that deals with drug addiction and I always swore I would never be like them! It's like I should know better! Same thing happend to me, they made me feel so good at first...now they don't. It's not even fun anymore. :(
I'm right there with you...
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1069452 tn?1256600037
I am thinking about asking my doctor for the clonidine...I am already on blood pressure meds ..Which i dont take because my bp seems fins i check it all the time,,,I thought about telling him I want to quit smoking and i herard clonidine was a good thing for that and its also good for bp and see if he will change me...Dont want to tell him i have a addition to pills...If i use the clonidine and xanax should i use the thomas recipie...ave seen so many things dont really know what to use now..and what can be used together ...thank you all so very very much ....
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1069452 tn?1256600037
My doctor has me on 0.25 xanax i am suppose to take 2 a day but i dont i only take 1 at night to go to sleep will that be a good thing for the sleeplessness?
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198154 tn?1337787265
since you asked...
personally I wouldnt try to detox with out some type of Benzo and some Clonodine.  

Good Luck!
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1064938 tn?1255282319
Yes you are in the right place.  The recipe is the Thomas Recipe.  I am sure somebody will send it to you.  You are about to go thru a couple of real bad days then it starts to get better I promise. If feels like a real bad flu. The hot baths really worked for me.  I stayed in a hot bath when I was going thru wd.  You can make it.  Just keep posting we will talk you thru it. Let us know what we can do for you. I am proud of you for wanting to quit.  Just remember the hard part is "Life after pills"  Make sure you try to find some help for yourself for afterwards.  Good Luck  Keep posting and let us know how you are doing!!!!  You are strong!!!  You can do it!!!!
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Good Evening Swt,

Its called the Thomas Recipe, you may also want to get some valerian root from the health food store, it will help you sleep at nite during wd. if you have someone with you, you may want to let them know what you are about to go thru, you will be sick for about 3-5 days, normally diarrea, upset tummy, restless leg syndrome, irritablity and more. If you have someone to rub down your legs when the rls starts that will help, hot baths will help and you can get something like passionflower from the healthfood store for anxiety.

I hope this helps, good luck you can do it jules
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