Some great news for Suboxone plan.

I just wanted to inform all of you that care that I still have my Suboxone appointment and it is on Feb26th.. The best news is that I called my insurance and found out that everything is covered 100% minus co-pays of $45 office visits, and $25 for a 30 day supply of the brand name suboxone 8-2 which from what I understand is 8mg subutex and 2mg naloxone.  That is if they even start me on the highest dose.  If the DR. precribes it as a maintanence drug(which i am hoping) then I can get a 90 day supply through the mail order pharmacy for only $50.00  That is like .55 cents per pill, and from what prices I have seen others pay for this I feel extremely greatful!

Also I understand that I need ALOT OF HELP and not just with getting another drug, but with finding out triggers and cravings and reasons for abuse and addiction.. For this I am going to need help from a proffesional addiction counsler.  I have an appointment set up for that on Feb 6th.  So far these are all things I have never done before in an effort to get clean and stay clean.  I am not sure who said it, but I read on here that "insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results" so for that I have to admit I have been acting insane for a very long time.  

This is my time to get real, step up, and take ownership for all of my actions, good and bad!  I want this so bad I can feel it deep in my soul.  Everyone always says I am a ncie guy, and a great person but I feel everything but that.. This is my time to get my life back and start to make the right choices and accept the help that is offered to me..

I KNOW THIS WILL TAKE ALOT OR WORK AND TIME!!!!

BUT D@MNIT I AM SO READY TO TAKE THIS HEAD ON AND NOT GIVE UP NO MATTER WHAT!

[taekwondo_fighter]

thats exactly it... dont give up... it sounds like you have a gameplan set..
fight it with everything you have...  and dont quit..  i finally feel like i have my fight back again, and its only been 6 days off of this ****..  i look forward to other things now, and my training has become a top priority for me..  find something you like doing, get your butt to the gym..  do something that will make you feel good..  kick this addictions A$$ !!

[oxygirl487]

hey thts good to hear.....u can do this.....hang in there.....how u feeling today?

[headies]

Good luck, maybe its true what they say,"the best come to those who wait".

[oxyaddict420]

Thank you all so much.. All of you have played a part in helping my in this fight. As far as how i feel today pretty bad.. At first it was because I hadnt taken anything in almost 2 days and then "I GOT THE CALL" you all know what i mean.. It wasnt alot, but enough to set me back once again.. I am also trying to get into a DR to actually be seen for my pain since the reason I started taking these were for actual pain.  I was going to be 100% honest with him and see if he would maybe wirte a script each week to monitor it to make sure I dont abuse just to get me until the 26th of FEB.. I know some dont agree with what I am doing but honestly I DONT GIVA FUK!!  I am doing what needs to be done for my situation.. I have a wonderful fiancee that has my back 100% and it has been that way for 14yrs.. So if she can still see the light in me and hasn't left due to giving up then I feel hope for us.. As for why I am doing this it is FIRST AND FORMOST FOR ME.. But doing this for me will affect our lives as a couple in a positive way.. And it is about time I contribute something positive rather than always bad news..

To all of you that are here for me, I REALLY VALUE YOUR FRIENDSHIPS!  This has been great for me in so many ways..  again, THANK YOU ALL!

I WILL FIGHT THIS ALL THE WAY!

[headies]

Dont give up, my friend.

[toxictome]

Good job...you are getting all the tools in place to be successful.I saw my therapist yesterday and i have a LOT of work to do...it s**ks to be a perfectionist!  lol

she kept repeating the  words " let it go"....

Keep up the game plan...it works if you work it!

[oxyaddict420]

Thanks you guys.. Everything here has been positive and helpfull. I know I can do this.. I just have never had the resorces to get this type of professional help.  Now I do and I am going to use very bit of it.. This is my best plan so far to get and stay clean..

Thanks again for everything

[IBKleen]

One thing I will add: Of you are going to use the Sub short term (a month of less), then make sure that you begin to taper a week into it. It is important so that you will not suffer any withdrawal from the Sub. Good Luck.

[oxyaddict420]

I will make sure to keep that in mind.. I am truly hoping that this DR will use this as a maintinance drug for me for a long period of time.. I need to get my life back in order first before I can think about just using something to help with withdrawl (withdrawal).. I am looking for something to keep me from abusing in the future and help me more long term to clean up a train wreck that I have created.. Then when things get more stable and I get the tools from the addiction counsler on how to also help manage my urges and cravings, then I can taper and do what needs to be done.

But I do see your point on the short term.. so thanks for the concern. sounds like it worked good for you from what I have seen you post about it right?  Thats great..

[IBKleen]

It did work for me me hun, for what I used it for. I DO understand that you want to stay on it for a while. Do yourself a favor, get into some sort of therapy..or meetings..or whatever type of aftercare you choose. Get to the core issues while you are on the Sub. Use BOTH as a tool to get to your goal. I know you talked about all of this before, so stick with it!!!!

Good for you for getting 'er done!!!!!!!

[oxyaddict420]

Ya, I posted above also that I have an addiction counsler that I am going to see on the 6th of FEB.. So that should help there, and if I need anything else I WILL DO IT!

I AM GOING TO DO ANYTHING TO BEAT THIS!

THANKS

[road2recovery]

I am so happy for you....And like you said the best part is that your insurance will cover it as i have heard it can get really expensive....PLUS u have a plan...I wish you the best, and you sound like you are ready to start your new life....
I am almost 5 months and it was tough but worth every thing i went through...
keep us posted
r2r

[zzzaaaccckkk]

not saying ur a cop out. Saying ur scared. U enjoy the bliss of oxy as I did, 80-100mg a day for a year.  Now u want to stop. Good for u.  But when it becomes so easy to detox what do u have to stop u from starting again. U had ur fun as I, u should feel the pain. Then the love and help u recieved will be burned into ur head so u ******* remember what real withdraw should have been.

[zzzaaaccckkk]

I not sure read u right. If u have gone c/t. And it did not help you then iam sorry.  I am just tired. Did not meen to rain on what've hope will be ur answer.  Good luck

[oxyaddict420]

You really need to research suboxone before commenting on things that you are making comments about that are clear answers in the info about suboxone.. It isnt an easy way out at all!

[zzzaaaccckkk]

thats why I asked. I sad I was sorry I missed read so ******* take it for what its worth. If u tried quitting oxy cold turkey. And u went thru the W/d and started back up then shame on u. Get some balls this time. When this treatment works for you I will be very happy for u.  You can rub it in my face. But I know after the hell iam going thru I will not relapse.  I think the love and advice I have recieved here and from my wife will be burned into my head better in the state iam in now, then if I went with out the withdraw.

[zzzaaaccckkk]

little ruff there sorry.

[marcatj]

hey there, sounds like a great plan...

i am doing the Sub for longer than I had originally planned, and it's working GREAT for me.  between that and counceling, i am having no cravings anymore..

short term, long term - no matter.  it's worked incredibly well either way for pretty much everyone I know who's used it.

with that and counceling (which is very important) you'll do great.  you're gonna kick it this time... yay for you!

[marcatj]

hey there, sounds like a great plan...

i am doing the Sub for longer than I had originally planned, and it's working GREAT for me.  between that and counceling, i am having no cravings anymore..

short term, long term - no matter.  it's worked incredibly well either way for pretty much everyone I know who's used it.

with that and counceling (which is very important) you'll do great.  you're gonna kick it this time... yay for you!

[wait2long]

congratulations hun...i know you have planned for this day...and it almost fell thru for you too...great news all around for ya!!!  let me know if you have anymore questions...here to help all i can...

[lostsoul2]

Do whatever you feel is the best course for you.  Forget about people saying it's the easy way out and you have to experience pain to pay the piper for the pleaure he provided.  I do agree that everything has it's counterpoint, and w/d and suffering through this s*** is the payment.  But from what I've read of you and your usage in past forums I think you know the feeling.  I'm sure you have run out pills from time to time and felt what it feels like.  That's driven me back before, so don't even sweat it.  If you can get clean with suboxone, do it.  My shrink offered me the option, but it would have to wait 2 months until I the certified Dr. in his office could work me in.  So I'm c/t.  But I konw you have been taking a lot heavier than me, so c/t would be much worse for you, which I can't even fathom.  My usage spiked drastically after my dad died 4 months ago.  I guess I used to ease the pain like I have with so many other drugs.  You have to stop your relationships with people who encourage and that was tough for me.  They were all my boys, ya know?  We made so many memories......  But I have to start over and that scares me because I have never felt like I fit in, which I'm sure contributed to addiction to dull the pain. I'm no corporate, business kind of guy.  I'm a former stoner who still lives by the stoner's creed.  Live and let live.  I think you know what I mean.   But good luck with suboxone.  I hope it helps fix things for you.  

[oxyaddict420]

That was a very awesome post.. I agree with you on so many levels.  I have felt withdrawl (withdrawal) at least 40-50 times honestly. Someone who is going through it for the first time can talk all b@lls out all they want.. I remember when I first got sick and didnt even know why. When I realized what it was from I went cold turkey and then SWORE I would never do that again. That was hell.  A few months later it started with one pill here, and 2 pills there until I strung the days togather again to only relapse and have to withdrawl (withdrawal) again.

I appriciate that you are informed on my past usage and are there to support me. I also know about "my boys"! Man I would be cutting off alot of "old friends" which is what I know I am going to have to do.. Like you said so many old memories. Some even good and no drugs..

Oh well, I have a great plan in motion, and even found out that the addiction counsler has a suboxone dr in the same office building he works in but the only way that dr accepts patients is through "referrel" so maybe I can even be seen sooner.. Fingers crossed on that though...

Thanks for everything! FROM ONE LOSTSOUL TO ANOTHER!

WE WILL BEAT THIS

[zzzaaaccckkk]

I can only hope and pray u can forgive me. Please read my apology I posted. Good luck. Again my deepest apology.  

[oxyaddict420]

Yeah man, I already replied to it.. I can relate to where you are right now totally.. We are all ruiting for you to do this in one shot.. show us all that it can be done and then re-post here in 1-2-6-9-12 months and let us know how it is going.. I am sure if(or when) you get through this that you will be an insperation for alot of people.. Until then it is alot of hard work, and just being tired of the same old rat=race..  

BEST OF LUCK

And yes I have already forgiven you.. GOD BLESS

[oxyaddict420]

I called around to see if any other suboxone DR could get me in any sooner around my town the other day.. I found out that this one will only do it if a person is already in some type of drug treatment counsling.. So I told them about my appoiuntment on the 6th for the addiction counsler, and they me what the DR's name was.. After I told them , they informed me that he works in the same buliding as them, and that a referel from that counsler would be the best way.

So I might actually be able to get on sooner than FEB26th with a different sub dr.. Which would be great trust me.. But I am not getting too excited, because you never know. But regaurdless the 26th of Febuary will come and that will be the beggining of a NEW LIFE!  I cannot wait..

THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR THEIR SUPPORT..

[allaboutmary]

Your POSATIVE ENERGY and EXCITEMENT is overflowing and shooting out of my computer !  I will have to send you a bill if my computer breaks. lol   I have followed your story and I am so happy things are coming together for you. You are determined and have a positive attitude. These are great tools to get you clean.  Best wishes to you !
Mary

[oxyaddict420]

Thank you so much.. Yes I remember you posting way back when I first got on here.  It seems like forever but yes things are finally coming togather.. A while back I got mad over what a certain someone was posting about me, and then all their friends followed with horrible comments as well, so i got upset and deleted everything on my account and just didnt log on for a couple weeks.. Guess I needed time to get my head clear. I started to realize that I was letting someone that had NO-IDEA who or what I am truly about judge me, get me down, and rattled. So I made sure to stop that right away.

I have gotten so much positive from this website that it is unreal, the negative I am taking with a grain of salt..  I am glad that you can feel and see how positive I am for this.. This is my plan, and yes THIS WILL WORK FOR ME!!

IT IS TIME TO TAKE BACK MY LIFE

IT IS TIME TO STEP UP

IT IS TIME TO GET CLEAN, AND STAY CLEAN!

[hopsing94]

Hey man,i've been following you and this thread. It sounds like things might finally be coming together for you. Man i really hope so. The fact you have remained here this long with everything that has happened is a great testimony to your commitment to get clean. I really hope things work out.
If you are gonna start the counseling before the sub then hopefully you can get the tools in place to do the sub short term. If not do what you need to. Make this work no matter what. This may be your last chance. We will be here,stay positive the way you have been so far and keep your head on straight. You can do this man. ~John

[oxyaddict420]

Thanks alot man.. I remember when you first posted in here, and here you are now doing so good and making sure to stay active and giving great support to people every day.. You are a good friend man, and alot of help to many others as well. You are doing great man, KEEP IT UP!

I KNOW WE CAN DO THIS

[hopsing94]

Yes we can. I never thought that I would need support. Big tough guy,I don't need help with anything. I would'nt even ask friends to help when we moved. My poor wife ( I almost killed her) she was my only help. You are lucky like me to have a good woman by yourside. Count your bessings man. The forum and the people here are a tremendous help. It's really wierd how I can open up to complete strangers but not my loved one. We are gonna make it!!!!!!

[fishmeal]

I had just gotten 90 pills "8's" and I asked the pharm what it would have cost without the Insurance and she said $965.00.... Imagine that!!!!!!

[road2recovery]

ALmost 1000 dollars for 90 pills, that is unreal...i can't beleive insurance compaines would pay that, thank god some do..
r2r

[oxyaddict420]

I was told that it would be like 950+ for those as well without insurance, but when I asked the lady through my insurance how much without it, she said retail for 30 of the 8mg would have been $140  so that is still alot of money.. I am thanking god that my insurance is covering all of this minus the co-pays.. Everything is coming togather all at one time pretty much and I feel that god has a plan for me, and that I need to get clean first off, and get my life back in order.. Then I am going to go to school to be certifed to be a counsler for addicts. Maybe not someone who needs like 6+ years of school, but maybe a 2 year degree to maybe work at a rehab, or somehwere to be able to help people that were just like me to get help to change their lives.  This is what I feel gods plan is for me.. I am going to do everything in my power to clean my life up and get things right first..

[oxyaddict420]

Can someone that has been on the suboxone plan please reply to this question?

I have heard from a few places that they do a blood test and they check to make sure you test positive for opiates.  Here is my problem.  I do not have enough money, or people to get any more pain pills from and I am going to have to go through c/t withdrawl (withdrawal) before I even make it to my appointment.  So am I going to have an issue with this if I test clean for opiates when I go in?

To the people that just want to reply saying that if I am clean when I go in, then why would I want to get on the suboxone?  Just please dont reply, as I do not need those comments when I know what I need to do for my recovery, and I know why I need to do this.. The people that have been here long enough to know my story will understand, and to me that is all that matters.. Thanks

[tammyk_40]

I dont know why the drs would want to test for opiates. The methadone clinics do that because they want to make sure you are there for the right reason and not just to get high off the methadone. Since you cant get high off the sub, I dont understand the reasoning for the drug test before the sub. BUT there could be other reasons that I dont know of. Of course I havent taken the sub before but I was just giving you my opinion. What they really should check for is to see that you're in certain withdrawal. Which I know they do anyway.

[Simonsue]

Can you please let me know what is the name of  insurance that you have? It sounds pretty good!
My daughter gets her Suboxone  for a co-pay with her insurance, but none of the Doctor visits are covered. I think he charges $112.00

[oxyaddict420]

Sure, it is GreatWestHelthcare..  Ya, my office visits would have been $124.00 if I did have the insurance.  It is listed under specialist co-pay which for me is $45.00 each office visit.. best of luck

[oxyaddict420]

This is a bump for you to hopefully be able to find this easier and read it..

I had to reschedule my addiction counsling appointment for the day after the Suboxone appointment for insurance reasons...  

BUT IT IS ALL STILL GOING TO HAPPEN 100% FOR SURE

I AM GOING TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN NO MATTER WHAT

[oxyaddict420]

No, everything is fine.. I had someone new asking me about what I was on, and what my story was and all that.. I just went to a couple of my older threads about my suboxone plan and gave it a bump up to the top so that they might be able to find it easier..

I had an appointment with the addiction counsler(who is different than my Sub dr) and it was for the 6th but when they called me to ask about if it had anything to do with substance abuse and substance addiction they said something about my insurance benefits maybe not cover the suboxone if I do the addiction counsler first.. Something about a pre-exsisting condition or something.. I think it is ********, but I still have my original Sub dr app. on the 26th of this month, except now my appointment for the addiction counselor is going to be on the 27th, one day after I start my Suboxone.. Make sense?Or did I just make it more confusing??

Thanks

[toxictome]

It makes sense..I was just going to PM you and see how the addiction counselor went on the 6th..but i see the appt. got changed to the 27th...hang in there...it will all fall into place...and you are getting a lot of good info to add to your aftercare..

keep it up!!!

[oxyaddict420]

Thanks for that comment.. It is nice to hear some encouraging words after so many neagtive things..  I really feel life has a way of timing things to make them happen for a reason, along with gods plan for me.. So for me I truly believe this is my time to do this plan to to manage my addiction and get my life back in order..

Thanks for all the support you have given me..

[oxyaddict420]

This is an update to the original thread about the suboxone.. You can find pretty much all the info regaurding your questions in here, and if not please feel free to ask me anything..

Just remember that everyone is different in their addictions and especially in their recovery.. The main thing is to realize that the same thing worked for you, might not work for me and so on. So we have to "customize our recovery plans" to best suit our individual addictions.. So for me my #1PRIORITY IS STAYING ALIVE AND MANAGING MY ADDCITION!

So yes, I am set on the suboxone, and yes I will take this forever if it means getting a somewhat normal life back, and being able to function as a normal human, and being able to do daily tasks once again..  ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE ME NOW

[bmc1976]

I agree with what you said about everyone being different on how one goes about getting of pills. I don't know anything about sub as I have been luck enough to be able to come off the pills without it. Some people can, others can't. I wish you the best of luck with it and hope it works wonderfully well for you. Just kind of wondering, do you know how long you plan on staying on the sub? Or is that something that you'll be talking to your doctor about? I'm just thinking that it would be nice if you could eventually come off of it also. But, if it means going back to oxy's, you have to do what you have to do. Sounds like you have a great plan and I wish you the best of luck with it all!!!!!
Brian

[oxyaddict420]

Yeah, I need to talk tot he DR about the details of that decision.. I honestly would be willing to take it for the rest of my life if it meant staying clean off oxy's and abusing!  But at some point, yes I am sure I will want to get clean off of it as well, but for now I have so many things that have to be accoplished first that I just need to focus on those things before thinking of being "totally drug free"..  Thanks for you kind words, and YES I AM READY TO DO THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL!

[bmc1976]

It's good to know you do want to eventually get off of the sub too. I know right now that is and should be the last thing on your mind. I know you would hate to come off of it too soon and end up back on the oxy's. I'm sure taking taking care of all the things you need to before even thinking about coming off the sub would be best. It is much easier doing things when you are as stress free as possible. I know stress triggers many people in to taking pills for that false sense of well being. I'm kind of anxious to see how well the sub works for you! I've never taken and know nothing about but wondering if it will help you considering the high dose of oxy's you were taking. Man I bet you can't wait for the 26th!!!!!

[Angel929]

You are so determined and it sounds like you are being VERY serious too.  You have given me courage to fight this and for you I am grateful.  Keep us informed like you already have and GOOD LUCK!!!  Its nice that your insurance is going to help you out with the costs!
Angel

[dmack13]

Hey, its great you are getting it together. I hope everything is well with you. I know this thread is a couple of years old, but I still wanted to send my regards anyway. I am suffering from addiction to hydrocodone 10/500. I do maybe 10-15 a day. I am not working right now but I am hoping I can get into a local free clinic and maybe get the treatment through them. They say they do. I think the opiates just totally warp your brain after awhile. i found a website that list Dr.'s that prescribe Suboxone along with counseling, but like I said I have no insurance. I have tried to quit cold turkey several times with no success.