Suboxone

[Sunnysonic]

I really need advice. I started suboxone 2 1/2 weeks ago I take urine tests every Tuesday. My doctor wrote me a 2 week  script. My problem is  I over used my meds and have run out about  6 days early. My concern is that one I will eventually get withdrawals in the next 3 days and when I test this Tuesday my levels will be off. I'm obviously still early in my recovery and I am focused in getting clean. I have not used  doc at all since starting suboxone. I really  need advice on whether to tell my group counselor  or my regular counselor. I don't want them to think I sold them. They can totally tell by my levels that I took them.  I messed up and now I'm so scared of losing the program. I am also scared to start withdrawing. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  I will definitely take it as prescribed when and if  I get my next script .Thank you

[Sunnysonic]

Thank you so much for your kind words and response. I'm so mad at myself, but am praying I will get through this.

1st thing - I can do urine test Tues -Thurs. I am wondering if I can fill my new script on Wed after my appt. and take my precribed dose . Then do my urine on Thurs. At least I'll have maybe more instead of a low count? I really do not like lying like you said. I just made a mistake and I have realized it now and will do it right now.

The other thing is I signed a few things, but nothing explained to me or nor did I receive copies of anything. Another thing that I wish I had because I have no papers on what the rules are. Only what has verbally been relayed to me. All the other people working at the office are super nice and very supportive. It's just the doctor who is very intimidating. That's why I'm hesitant to be honest with him. And if I do mention it to my counselor I'm not sure he won't say anything . I wish you all the luck and any Xtra advice I'd appreciate. Thank you all

[cdvr1]

oney, I've been in your predicament before & I'm in the same boat u are again. I've been on subs for a little over 5 months now & I still have a problem sometimes with taking 1 extra a day & running out early. I'm prescribed 2 8mg daily & I know it's the addiction in my brain telling me if i take 1 more I can accomplish more that day. But the fact is that's untrue. I hate telling anyone to lie but I definitely wouldn't tell your Dr if u signed a contract at the beginning of your program. Mostly all programs have a waiting list & your contact probably says they can kick u out no questions asked. If u signed 1 please look over it. Like I was saying before tho I'm in this situation now as well. U don't want run completely out 4 days before u go to the Dr. What I suggest is something I've done before. Take only 1/2 your dosage for 4 days of possible that way u still are taking some suboxone ever day before your appt.1, so u won't get deathly ill & start withdrawing because trust me sub withdrawals are way worse than any withdrawal from opiates or any other drug!! Even if u half to take a quarter of a dose to get by, do it. And 2 of they're still giving u weekly urine tests they will compare it to the vet first one with subs in your system. That's known as your baseline test. If it's too far below or to far above that line they'll know somethings up. Yes it stays in your system a few days but every day that number they're looking at goes down if u take nothing. Are u on the strips or the pills? And like I said I hate telling anyone to lie because I'm a very honest person but if your afraid they'll kick u out if your drug test comes back to low then please just adjust your remaining dosage to help yourself not screw yourself.I just don't want to see anyone myself included, get kicked out of a program that will help to possibly save your life & not be able to get into another one because of waiting lists. Like my Dr office has a list of over 600 people waiting to get in. The only reason I lucked out & got a spot is because I've been an opiate addict for almost 16 years & I ended up checking myself into a psyciatric hospital to get help cause the pills changes my mood so much I just wanted to die & hurt everyone I could in the process because they were the normal people who I so desperately wanted to be. It was literally life or death in my situation. And I surely don't want to see anyone else get to that point. I'm sorry this is so long but I talk alot Lol! Good luck to you & if u get any advice that helps besides will power & common sense please share because I seem to have neither of those things!

[Alice_in_Pain]

Thank you, So helpful to people that need this advice....

[Sunnysonic]

Again thank you for your responses.Why I posted here is because I am looking for advice and support. I know I messed up and I feel terrible. That's why I wanted to be honest with everyone. I just hope my honesty doesn't backfire,and ruins my chance in the program. The first 2 weeks I took my meds as prescribed. I don't want to make excuses, so I have no good reason why I screwed up my doses this week. I go to group and counseling at the center every week. I am very serious about this. If not I wouldn't be in the program. I haven't touched doc in almost a month since I've been on suboxone.  

[bama88]

I read your delimia and it sounds complicated and negative.  You need to take this seriously.  This should show you that your not in control of medications at all.  What do you want as an the end results.  Are you wanting our acceptance or our opinions....well deep down inside yourself you know what to do.....what do you think is the right way to handle the situation...

Secrets keep one sick, and your as sick as your secrets....

Much support, do the right thing will lead you to the right places

[Sunnysonic]

Thank you all for your unconditional support. I just reread what I wrote and I will be 4 days short not 6.I know that doesn't make any difference, but I wanted to clarify. I choose to get help myself. I had got to a point in my using that it was get help now or risk everything. I wasn't given any info about what would happen if I ran out early so I'm not sure what my urine will show as metabolites. Or what exactly the doctor is looking for in the test. I have definitely realized my screw up and I will not screw up again. I just really hope it doesn't effect my ongoing treatment.  Thank you all again .

[Seanimanadict]

I think you should just bite the bullet tell the truth then make the jump as many of us have. I didn't want to tell my kids but it was for the best BC I definitely wanted this to have a impact on them also for addiction. Maybe by seeing my pain they would not wanna encounter them. You can do it ,it may be tough but this is a great place for support and encouragement. Sean

[pillguy]

Oh mommyallgirls. I wasn't sure how to answer your post.  All the folks here try to be positive and upbeat.  I will try my best.  You got a 2 week supply and its gone in 1 week?  The drugs are making your decisions for you.  You will be so much better off without them.  Trust all of us who have quit.  WE HAVE HAPPY, FULL LIVES!  Most of us at one point or another wondered if we could live without that opiate boost.  You need to fight this if you are serious about quitting.  And if you aren't serious you should get serious.  The opiate using lifestyle is not sustainable.  Its going to end bad in one way or another.  And going on Suboxone complicates your treatment even more.  I know, I was on Suboxone for 2 years.  You've got to fight this.  Fight hard,with everythiing you've got.  Give your strips to a trusted partner to dole out to you if  that's necessary.  You just can't keep going like this.

As for what you tell the Doc?  That's complicated.  Its important to restore one's integrity after a serious bout of opiate use.  Telling the truth is part of that.  its so easy to get into the habit of lying to deal with uncomfortable situations.  Mark twain once told a graduating class, 'If you are going to lie, get good at it real quick, because if you don't you'll be found out, and then nobody believes you.'  i think he was implying that maybe we shouldn't lie at all. :-)  I also understand the point that Motye51 makes, often these doc's simply don't care.  If you become a problem he may drop you.  You'll need to make that call.  I send my best wishes and hopes for your recovery.

[Sunnysonic]

Hi and thanks for your reply. I am prescribed  16 mg a day. I know taking more doesn't do anything. I think it's just part of the addiction. I didn't even realize I was getting low. Should I call and talk with someone or just wait till I go to my appt.? I see my counselor Fri. Should I tell him? I  want to be honest, as I think that's the right thing to do. I am just scared to risk my chance for help.

[motye51]

The only thing I can think to say is your doctor obviously knows your an addict..your using the suboxone to get through the withdrawals of coming off your doc.  Maybe going in sick, because you will start w/d around day 2/3, and telling him the truth.  What you exhibited was addict behavior, so perhaps he will realize this and keep you on?  I'm not really sure b/c I know each dr can only have so many patients on it at a time and if he has any type of wait list, then more than likely, your off! Can I ask how many mg are you taking per day?