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Suboxone withdraws?!?
Hey guys, never posted here b/fore but it seems like from the posts I've read that at least some of you guys have/are taking Suboxone.
I was put on a Suboxone program about 2weeks ago. Everything was going great, no withdraws/ cravings. I was required to go to NA meetings 4 times a week. Ok, I can handle that. The problem was/is that when I went one day, I had another member approach me about buying some OxyContins from him (my DOC). Thankfully, I didn't succumb to this intense temptation and relapse. I told my doc that I was uncomfortable going to the meetings because of this and asked if I could substitute it for attending a local church because that had been more helpful than the NA meetings I was attending and I met so many supportive people there and some even gave me their phone numbers to talk with them when I was having my cravings! My doctor said no, that I would have to keep going to the same meetings 4x a week! That same day, I had a call from another sub doctor and made arrangements about treatment/ church and counseling. GREAT! I'm finally going to get the help I need! So I made an appointment and the earliest they could get me in is this coming ties evening. Here is where I made my mistake. I immediately stopped going to the NA meetings because I knew if I continued to go, I would eventually cave to all the dealers there. I went to see my old dr this past Friday and she FREAKED when I didn't have my NA papers signed. I told her what was going on and that I had worked something out with another DR that would help me. I told her that I just needed enough Suboxone to get by until Tuesday. She refused. I called my new dr and explained everything to the receptionist and unfortunately the new dr is out if town until Tuesday
:( $&@&$ my @$$ so I told my old dr that I could continue seeing her for another week. She wasn't having any of that and told me to get my addicted ssa out of her office! So now here it is Sunday night and I'm already going through some moderate withdraws. I am tempted to use (OC 80. ) just a call away. I cannot make it through until Tuesday! I have a freaking job! I do however have some tramadols left over from my wife's surgery last month and she said I could have them. Would it be better to take them to stave off w/d or just go all out with the OCs because it won't matter anyways? What about also some advice on how to handle the situation between my old dr & me? Just let bygones be bygones, not sure if there is anything I can do but I sure as heck blame her for my relapse! Any advice/constructive criticism is welcome!
I was put on a Suboxone program about 2weeks ago. Everything was going great, no withdraws/ cravings. I was required to go to NA meetings 4 times a week. Ok, I can handle that. The problem was/is that when I went one day, I had another member approach me about buying some OxyContins from him (my DOC). Thankfully, I didn't succumb to this intense temptation and relapse. I told my doc that I was uncomfortable going to the meetings because of this and asked if I could substitute it for attending a local church because that had been more helpful than the NA meetings I was attending and I met so many supportive people there and some even gave me their phone numbers to talk with them when I was having my cravings! My doctor said no, that I would have to keep going to the same meetings 4x a week! That same day, I had a call from another sub doctor and made arrangements about treatment/ church and counseling. GREAT! I'm finally going to get the help I need! So I made an appointment and the earliest they could get me in is this coming ties evening. Here is where I made my mistake. I immediately stopped going to the NA meetings because I knew if I continued to go, I would eventually cave to all the dealers there. I went to see my old dr this past Friday and she FREAKED when I didn't have my NA papers signed. I told her what was going on and that I had worked something out with another DR that would help me. I told her that I just needed enough Suboxone to get by until Tuesday. She refused. I called my new dr and explained everything to the receptionist and unfortunately the new dr is out if town until Tuesday
:( $&@&$ my @$$ so I told my old dr that I could continue seeing her for another week. She wasn't having any of that and told me to get my addicted ssa out of her office! So now here it is Sunday night and I'm already going through some moderate withdraws. I am tempted to use (OC 80. ) just a call away. I cannot make it through until Tuesday! I have a freaking job! I do however have some tramadols left over from my wife's surgery last month and she said I could have them. Would it be better to take them to stave off w/d or just go all out with the OCs because it won't matter anyways? What about also some advice on how to handle the situation between my old dr & me? Just let bygones be bygones, not sure if there is anything I can do but I sure as heck blame her for my relapse! Any advice/constructive criticism is welcome!
Please help...jumped off at 16 mg after being on subs for over 2 yrs. Now my legs hurt so bad. Its been about a week. How much longer will I feel like this? Plus I have diarea 3x a day. Thank God I have xanax to help me sleep a little at least. I need my life back. Finances are a mess and just went through a sad break up. I need a job. Please tell me how much longer will this last???? Any advice greatly appreciated. Pls be nice. I'm sensitive :)
Please help...jumped off at 16 mg after being on subs for over 2 yrs. Now my legs hurt so bad. Its been about a week. How much longer will I feel like this? Plus I have diarea 3x a day. Thank God I have xanax to help me sleep a little at least. I need my life back. Finances are a mess and just went through a sad break up. I need a job. Please tell me how much longer will this last???? Any advice greatly appreciated. Pls be nice. I'm sensitive :)
& I am aware that wd from subs are very bad, but I've done research & people here seem to agree that if I don't take them very long then it won't be as bad. I have a week vacation coming up not next week but the week after. That is when I plan on quitting everything and at the same time keeping my job.
I was in the middle of switching sub doctors. I am still going to group and one-on-one therapy. I will be able to get the proper aftercare for as long as I need it. I had a couple days where I didn't take anything but I have a job to go to and I couldn't withstand the withdraws any longer. Like I said, my plan is to get off these subs as quickly as possible and my new dr knows that and is working with me while my old dr would not.
I didn't read all of the posts. I have the attention span of a flea and cannot read these novels.
So bear with me while I ask ... Why did you go back on after being off for two days? If you are not planning on following the program and getting proper aftercare why would you take something that you surely will get addicted to? Are you aware that the withdrawal from Suboxone is much more intense than opiates? Just seems like you shot off your foot with this one.
So bear with me while I ask ... Why did you go back on after being off for two days? If you are not planning on following the program and getting proper aftercare why would you take something that you surely will get addicted to? Are you aware that the withdrawal from Suboxone is much more intense than opiates? Just seems like you shot off your foot with this one.
Ok, I've somehow managed to make it through without taking anything! The first 2 days, Monday & Tuesday were very bad and I had to be at work both days. I found out that my grandmother passed away Monday morning and that only increased my sadness and depression. Honestly I don't know how I made it those first 2 days. Tuesday evening, I went to the new sub dr and he gave me 16 mg a day, but I waited till Wednesday morning to take it but I only took 2 mg and waited until this morning to take my next dose. I am absolutely terrified to get addicted to subs so I'm gonna take it as little as needed and then just quit! Thanks for all the great comments and advice, it has really helped!
I can't believe a doctor would treat a patient like that. That is horrible! I have been afraid to tell my regular doctor that I started taking suboxone. I had not even mentioned it to her and did what I had to do for myself. I had just talked myself into believing that she would understand and now I am afraid again lol. But I am going to tell her, what is there to be afraid of, I know my body and I know what I need. I am a chronic pain sufferer and if suboxone does it for me then I am taking it. I also go to a therapist and attend NA. I have had no problem with the members really, other than a few are pretty distant from new comers. So do what ever you think is best for you. I wish I could tell you about withdraw from the sub. No ideas here I have heard if you take it less then 21 days it tends to be an easier withdraw. Good Luck and God Bless
hi, it sounds to me like one of the members is beating you up. wow....slow down with being so hard on this man. first and foremost, you posted here and that shows a lot of courage. asking for help and advice isn't always easy. i can tell you that my first thought is to do what you have to do to take care of your withdraws if they are bad. if you have to take the oc until tuesday then that's what i would do. i am sure a lot of people will disagree, but i know for a fact that i wouldnt suffer like that and i would want to go thru the withdraws while seeing a doctor. it's not a good idea to put your body through that. doesn't mean it can't be done. i did it for about 3 days. it was aweful. i finally seen the doc and they put me on a few different medications to help and it did. suboxene didn't work for me at all. it made me sick. i am so sorry about the doc not giving you your suboxene. that was cruel. you know as a patient we have bill of rights. addiction is a fine line and it's hard for someone to really judge what our heart says. i know me and i know had i been in your shoes, i would of told the doctor the truth. hey, i didnt get the paper signed. doesn't mean i didn't go. i am so proud of you that you didn't use. if you can hang on till tuesday then do it. there are options. even the emergency room. let them know what your going thru. for me i am a chronic pain patient so i don't believe in suffering in anyway. one more thing, i too did not like NA or AA meetings. no one is going to tell me that i have to go. i like some of them meetings i mean they weren't all bad, but some of the people.,..just trippy. so i decided to go to a church na meeting and that's where God wanted me to be. it was awesome and i felt so at home. do what works for you. good luck and God Bless you
i just want to say that i completely understand what you mean of you dont have a choice,i spent all my money on this one dr cuz he was suppose to "help" me with detox using suboxen i knew there is NO way in hell could do it on my own,well i seen that dr once gave him my $300 and he wrote me a prescription for ONE subutex and told me to come in the next day with $200 MORE dollars if i wanted the suboxens....WTF right i know so of course i stretched that one pill as far as it could go but just didnt have $200 MORE dollars (not including price of pills) so here i was ripped off by this dr that told me it was only suppose to cost $260 for the whole detox...and no money to try another detox place yet so of course i gave it and took a bunch of tramadols and luckily i called this one dr and at first he told me i had to have money in hand but when i called again 2days b4 i would have the money to make an appointment he remembered me crying to him on the phone(was on 2days with NOTHING) and he felt bad for me for the dr that scammed me so he told me to come in the next day with no money i couldnt believe it,and he is only going to cost me $200 a month and i can tell him when i want to taper off he is an amazing doctor,so i guess what i was trying to do here is not brag bout oh i'm so lucky its more like i completely understand what you mean when you say you dont have a choice i mean what i did also not recommending this to you but i just only took a pill or so ONLY WHEN I REALLY NEEDED it,but i also did make it TWO DAYS without doing anything,it was hell i know but i survived so i mean in your situation there's not really any great advice that any one can give you,the best thing i can tell you is you're not alone i was there,6days ago actually but regardless you HAVE to keep your goal in mind even if you relapse for whatever reason you have to still know that's NOT what you want,what i was scared was going to happen was that as soon as i touched a pill that i wouldnt want to stop anymore i think that's the whole point of trying so hard not to relapse but just remember no matter what how much "those f**ckin pills" (thats what i call them) do to your life and how much they take from you,are you really sure if you relapse this once that you wont again??? or that you'll even keep your next appt? this is why i am on a 4month suboxen detox plan with my dr set up so that way i have AT LEAST 4 months to start the real recovery because subs will not cure us,thats our job they just make it easier if done the right way without tapering down its the same thing as wds from any other opiate it is an opiate...but neways these are questions you might want to ask yourself and truthfully you're the only person that can make this decisions,i hope everything turns out ok for you!! i feel for you in your situation,im so sorry you have to go through this,and good-luck!!!! oh and also i found out that amodium ad (probably spelld wrong,sry) helps with wd syptoms at least for me because it actually has an opiate in it,it just doesnt give you any kind of a buzz,but FOR ME at least he helped with the sweats,the chills and even the moodswings for a little while!! best of luck to you!!!
It sounds like I want the cake and to eat it too, but if I don't have any other options, my plan is to stay on the subs until next summer when I have 2 months off work and can devote time to myself and withdraws. It would also give me more time to find out why I started using in the first place and what I can do about the situations that cause me to want to use. I don't know which route would be the most effective; to taper quickly and have minimal withdraws; to plan on staying on them until summertime when I can devote some serious me time and soul searching! So to be honest, I don't know what my goals are!
Is it a possibility to jump off before relapse? If so, then yes! That would be my goal!! I truly am ready to be done with EVERYTHING! But as I said before, I do not have a choice, I have to show up at work and be functional! I have NOT relapsed yet cause I haven't taken anything, not even the tramadol. I know that I wouldn't have anyone to blame but myself if i do relapse cause I'm the one who got myself into this position in the first place. I am just so frustrated at my doctor because it seems that they have an obligation to make sure that I have everything I need to get through this. Maybe not, but it seems like they should. If anyone has any suggestions on how to get through until Tuesday and still be functional without going back to my DOC, I would be eternally grateful! And I would also like to know how to get off the subs quickly without the risk of relapse.
Whydo u feel the need to blame someone for ur relapse? It nis only your fault, and ur fault alone if u relapse,,,no matter what the circumstances may be...taking resposibility is part of recovery...u have a long way to go...That is a statement of anaddict still in active addiction//blame is a major part of using for many..it sounds as if u need alot more aftercare 4 sure!
Unfortunately sub is a tool many use to merely get thru wds and not suffer//they think...and many go to sub drs then sell it on the streets...sub is a strong narcotic and a drug of abuse in many scenarios
U did not state ur dose of sub/nor ur prior doc and dose....what r ur goals? in 2 weeks chances r u r not addicted to sub....do u want to stay on it for life? do u want to jump off before u have to wd from it? u r close to having to wd from sub if u use it much longer...i am not sure of ur goals...u sound petrified of any discomfort tho...and that can get u into deep doo doo
Unfortunately sub is a tool many use to merely get thru wds and not suffer//they think...and many go to sub drs then sell it on the streets...sub is a strong narcotic and a drug of abuse in many scenarios
U did not state ur dose of sub/nor ur prior doc and dose....what r ur goals? in 2 weeks chances r u r not addicted to sub....do u want to stay on it for life? do u want to jump off before u have to wd from it? u r close to having to wd from sub if u use it much longer...i am not sure of ur goals...u sound petrified of any discomfort tho...and that can get u into deep doo doo
I was using 300mg oc/ day and I've been on 16 mg Suboxone for the past 2weeks. Wow! I wish I just had mild Ed from subs! But of course I haven't been tapering either. Maybe I will try a quick taper when I get back on them Tuesday. But until then, I don't see that I have another choice but to use if I wanna keep my job...
how long did you use before the sub program i stopped taken subs 5 dayz ago after 2 weeks of using them and doing a quick taper and im not really taht bad mild w/d syndroms i mean the restlessness and the insomnia is inevitbale i sleep a few horus a night but better den then none
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