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Subutex/Suboxone withdrawal after long term use, HELP!!!
I am in day 4 of Subutex withdrawal. I was on it for 5 months. The first 4 at 4mg a day, the last month gradually tapering down to .5 mg.
I am in withdrawal HELL. No energy, I take vitamin B supplements, which help very short term. I am taking clonidine, which helped some as well. But the RLS is driving me insane. HOW can I stop this? And when will I start to feel better. Can long term sub users who have gone through withdrawal please help me?
I was always told the withdrawal would be very mild, and this is a miracle drug. I will say, my life and habits have changed. I have no desire to use any pills at the moment, and I don't expect that to change. I was abusing hydros after 2 shoulder surgeries. Counseling and support from friends and family (who I was deathly afraid to talk to) has been amazing. My best friends wife came over and took my hydros from me, and basically helped save my life. I am lucky to have them.
I am in withdrawal HELL. No energy, I take vitamin B supplements, which help very short term. I am taking clonidine, which helped some as well. But the RLS is driving me insane. HOW can I stop this? And when will I start to feel better. Can long term sub users who have gone through withdrawal please help me?
I was always told the withdrawal would be very mild, and this is a miracle drug. I will say, my life and habits have changed. I have no desire to use any pills at the moment, and I don't expect that to change. I was abusing hydros after 2 shoulder surgeries. Counseling and support from friends and family (who I was deathly afraid to talk to) has been amazing. My best friends wife came over and took my hydros from me, and basically helped save my life. I am lucky to have them.
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I have been on subutex for 4 years due to drug abuse in the past i then was told about subs and that they prevented you going through heroin wds but then i got hooked on the subs and i actually enjoyed taking them as they gave me a little buzz at first and made me feel normal but now i am sick of them they make me feel awful when i take them and prior but its hard to not take em if your addicted to them mentally and physically. I tried to stop six months ago but did it completely wrong by jumping off at 2mg! DO NOT DO THIS BIG MISTAKE! I lasted 4 days then gave in to them as the pain, rls, nausea, body aches, sweats, hot n colds, sneezing etc got too much! I now have found if you taper down its much easier and less painful. Thats exactly what i now have been doing. I have tappered down from 2mg to half a 0.1mg in a month the last week was rough but not as bad as jumping off at 2mg. I am also on 4 codeines a day but this is only for 1-2 weeks to help with pain etc and then i take a zopliclone at night to help me sleep. The codeine/cocodamol deffinately has helped especially with the rls and body aches they have been a god send! But that is only because the codeine is a part of the opiate family. I am a tad worried about getting hooked on these now but hopefully i wont and its just temporary whilst getting off the subutex. I am now 3 days off the subs and have taken 4 cocodomals a day and so far i dont feel too bad! I do before i take the cocos but still its bareable. I am so proud of myself and everyone on here its such a hard thing maybe one of the hardest things to do but we CAN DO IT GUYS! I hope this helps someone out there and sorry its such a long message. If anyone has any advice for me please please message me back! Thanks again guys! Good luck! God bless
Barbie x
Barbie x
I have been on subutex for 4 years due to drug abuse in the past i then was told about subs and that they prevented you going through heroin wds but then i got hooked on the subs and i actually enjoyed taking them as they gave me a little buzz at first and made me feel normal but now i am sick of them they make me feel awful when i take them and prior but its hard to not take em if your addicted to them mentally and physically. I tried to stop six months ago but did it completely wrong by jumping off at 2mg! DO NOT DO THIS BIG MISTAKE! I lasted 4 days then gave in to them as the pain, rls, nausea, body aches, sweats, hot n colds, sneezing etc got too much! I now have found if you taper down its much easier and less painful. Thats exactly what i now have been doing. I have tappered down from 2mg to half a 0.1mg in a month the last week was rough but not as bad as jumping off at 2mg. I am also on 4 codeines a day but this is only for 1-2 weeks to help with pain etc and then i take a zopliclone at night to help me sleep. The codeine/cocodamol deffinately has helped especially with the rls and body aches they have been a god send! But that is only because the codeine is a part of the opiate family. I am a tad worried about getting hooked on these now but hopefully i wont and its just temporary whilst getting off the subutex. I am now 3 days off the subs and have taken 4 cocodomals a day and so far i dont feel too bad! I do before i take the cocos but still its bareable. I am so proud of myself and everyone on here its such a hard thing maybe one of the hardest things to do but we CAN DO IT GUYS! I hope this helps someone out there and sorry its such a long message. If anyone has any advice for me please please message me back! Thanks again guys! Good luck! God bless
Barbie x
Barbie x
I have been on subutex for 4 years and I am trying to get off, went almost a month until 2 days ago and its scaring me because of how I feel mentally, I am like a zombie and feel mentally stuck, I am wondering if long term subutex can permantly chemically damage our brains? I have only taken 2 mg a day and I have only had the RLS and very little physical withdrawls, I cant concentrate, focus and I feel that im going totally insane, the only reason I am capable of getting on line today is because I took my 2mg, this is beyond depression and this I want to know if its really suppose to make a person as mentally unstable as I feel? ive also lost 13lbs in 2 weeks, Please is this normal??
im back on subutex at 4mg, and ill come off gradually over next three weeks but i have come off them before and found that the following recipe works for withdrawl. When you are one day in, take 2 - 30mg dihydrocodiene every four hours with 1 - 10mg diazepam, and continue taking this for about a week, at which point you lower it down to twice a day (when you wake and when you sleep). Two weeks in, you lower it to once a day when you wake up. If you feel really lethargic, take one adderall tablet(amphetamine) a day as well as the previous mentioned meds during the three weeks it takes to return to normal. This should help you through but you need a doctor who will prescribe. I found in the uk that a private psychiatrist will script this, if you book one half hour session (But this can cost nearly £150 and the prescription is also expensive). Good luck to all who have written here, I know the pain and empathise deeply. Hope this helps!
In the world of opiate withdrawals. There are two kinds. There is the kind where you are shaking, puking, sweating, and cognitively incoherent. Those are the worst withdrawals known to mankind and usually come from banging or using enormously large amounts of opiates. Then, there is another kind of withdrawal. This is the withdrawal that allows you to sit in front of a computer and say "I am in withdrawal hell". I think you are getting my point. Sub will give you the withdrawal you can sit in front of a computer and write about it. I think you can handle it. I did so go for it.
In the world of opiate withdrawals. There are two kinds. There is the kind where you are shaking, puking, sweating, and cognitively incoherent. Those are the worst withdrawals known to mankind and usually come from banging or using enormously large amounts of opiates. Then, there is another kind of withdrawal. This is the withdrawal that allows you to sit in front of a computer and say "I am in withdrawal hell". I think you are getting my point. Sub will give you the withdrawal you can sit in front of a computer and write about it. I think you can handle it. I did so go for it.
Had back surgery and became addicted to pain pills. Surgeon sent me to a pain clinic and started suboxen on May 2 of this year. I had been taken as much as 16 mg a day over the past three weeks. Since May 21 I have been on the same 8mg strip and will probably run out tomorrow morning. I do not want to be on this any more. Does anyone have any idea how bad my withdrawals will be? Thanks
I Just Came back from detox unit been on subitex for 3yrs, jumped off 1mg. Had only one really bad night when i been runing around thinking to leave detox house.. Worse symptom for me is RLS. They been giving to me baclofen 10mg+Diclofenac 50mg works for rls, Lofexidine/Britlofex takes most symptoms away help u sleep but dry your mouse and make huge discomfort in ur head it is analogue of Clonidibe but designed special for opiate detox. Zopiclone b4 bed will give u 2-3h sleep. On day 6 i started Naltrexone to flash out that subitex quicker. Im now on day 16 sleeping of but a bit of diarrhea, no energy and discomfort in my head still here. Anyway im nearly there... Hope it help someone..
Hi, I just needed some advice on how to get off subutex for good, I've been on it for about a year doing 2mg a day, once in the morning, once at night. I'm still on it and don't know how to get off. I feel so crappy when I wake up in the mornings so I do peice of my sub. Then I feel better, But I don't want to be achy anymore and I need my strength back. I am so weak, more than ever. But when I do subutex I get so much energy and I don't feel weak anymore. What's a good tip to get off of them for GOOD? It feels like this is all in my head. please help, thank you!
I have worked in pharmaceutical buissness since leaving school now im not a scientist I just work with them glorified tea boy .....but during a disscission on opiate addiction he said there is a way of synthesizing an opiate but it will do what an opiate does but will not gain any tolerance so no withdrawel from it .........its completcated as its fooling the brain ...but when I asked why hasn't something like this been brought out as people could do a couple of months on thses tablets but no pain but have same results if they gone cold turkey for couple months an he said it wont make much money there is more money in any opiate that is manufactured an causes physical dependence ......they make too much money too come up with the treatment I was looking into an trust me its possible
everything is written down here is realy helpfull.. sorry for the bad english ,i m watching from europe. After a long period of heroin use i did the withdrawll using small amounts of suboxone.I was taking everyday and less ammount of the sub reaching the point even at 0.2 maybe mlg. I did everything bymyself without prescription.. now i m in the 9th day of taking really NOTHING AT ALL. My biggest problem is RLS or "kicking the habit" and the really small time of sleep everynight.Please can anyone tell me what can i do for the RLS without taking clonidine or diazepam medicines. Is there any herbal way .Is it possible to have some relief by making my body tired by going to the gym or running around the neighberhood??
everything is written down here is realy helpfull.. sorry for the bad english ,i m watching from europe. After a long period of heroin use i did the withdrawll using small amounts of suboxone.I was taking everyday and less ammount of the sub reaching the point even at 0.2 maybe mlg. I did everything bymyself without prescription.. now i m in the 9th day of taking really NOTHING AT ALL. My biggest problem is RLS or "kicking the habit" and the really small time of sleep everynight.Please can anyone tell me what can i do for the RLS without taking clonidine or diazepam medicines. Is there any herbal way .Is it possible to have some relief by making my body tired by going to the gym or running around the neighberhood??
Thanks for sharing all of that and good luck with the plan. We'll be here for support and to offer a suggestion or two...Can you start your own thread when you check back? I'm afraid this may get overlooked here...on an older thread.
I've heard others talk about the flatness in personality and outlook with Suboxone and I think it's sad to not feel but agree that Sub has its place in our medicine cabinets. Keep in touch!
I've heard others talk about the flatness in personality and outlook with Suboxone and I think it's sad to not feel but agree that Sub has its place in our medicine cabinets. Keep in touch!
I am grateful for this forum. I was looking for information, advise, help, support... getting off subutex, long term user.
First what a great drug. For opiate abuse, addiction, this is truely a life saving drug. Right off the bad stuff to a drug that can sustain your health,
is not 'addicting' in the sense that you do not need more to maintain the benefits, (though Im sure some addicts have people convinced that subutex is like an opiate...to justify their increased dosage) but it does not and my story will illustrate.
I got hooked on pain killers in early 2001, and by 2003 was buying them over the internet. It was bad, and just as I knew I was on the verge of a real disaster I read about subutex in the NYTimes. I got on it right away, and have been on it ever since. I started on 8. millegrams, and got down to 2 within three years or so. I have been on 1. a day for a long time. I cut the 2. in half. Then I cut the half in half, trying not to get a buzz and to spread the pill to a morning and evening dose. I do a get a bit of a buzz, and worry about the dependency on taking something.
I read some of these posts and am going to start pulling myself off the 1. m. The idea is to stay off the real opiates, and if I feel in danger I will go back on subutex for sure. But the resolve to be drug free can take you over that ... if you are resolute. I am not sure what this many years of subutex has done to my receptors... IM sure, considering I take so little, that its not going to be the worst thing, or that I am damaged.. hopefully.
The symptoms though, I do think this drug eliminates kinds of emotions, that have to do with largeness, large feelings, big feelings, thats the
impotency factor, or great sorrows, or great joys. Its like you were manic depressive and this is your lithium. But with that is a great cost, no real creativity, no real 'feelings' to contend with, and certainly sex is strangely catorgorized, the homoginous feeling of the orgasm is simply taken away. I guess this is how, or part of how the drug is able to attack the painful things that make us crave opiates in the first place. It can address the brain, or hormones, or glands, whatever, and control impulses which affect behavior. I know its 'coating' receptors, but I think the effect if more than that. This is not an opiate high, though it is akin to it. I think it could be a good drug for kinds of mental illness, or kinds of depression. The side effects we are experiencing, we who use it for a long time, well we are the guiney pigs... and we can decide if we feel its costing more than its helping.
I have decided I want to feel again, the scope of what I feel. I hope that the withdrawl RLS does not go on too long, but I have had that from time to time anyway. And I hope the terrible heebie jeebies dont last long, thats the worst, the creepy edge of the universe nothing fits feeling...
Just the other side of the everything fits and you can do it feeling..neither of them is true. We just live day to day, fitting what we can, going to sleep at night, laughing with our friends. We have a reason to live, even though sometimes it seems like we've lost it. These drugs may have helped at the moment, but they are complicated cost .. and I mean to leave this part behind.
I will let you know how it goes. IM going to go half of my dose three or four days a week for a few weeks, and then .. maybe cut that in half again.
im excited.
god bless you guys.
First what a great drug. For opiate abuse, addiction, this is truely a life saving drug. Right off the bad stuff to a drug that can sustain your health,
is not 'addicting' in the sense that you do not need more to maintain the benefits, (though Im sure some addicts have people convinced that subutex is like an opiate...to justify their increased dosage) but it does not and my story will illustrate.
I got hooked on pain killers in early 2001, and by 2003 was buying them over the internet. It was bad, and just as I knew I was on the verge of a real disaster I read about subutex in the NYTimes. I got on it right away, and have been on it ever since. I started on 8. millegrams, and got down to 2 within three years or so. I have been on 1. a day for a long time. I cut the 2. in half. Then I cut the half in half, trying not to get a buzz and to spread the pill to a morning and evening dose. I do a get a bit of a buzz, and worry about the dependency on taking something.
I read some of these posts and am going to start pulling myself off the 1. m. The idea is to stay off the real opiates, and if I feel in danger I will go back on subutex for sure. But the resolve to be drug free can take you over that ... if you are resolute. I am not sure what this many years of subutex has done to my receptors... IM sure, considering I take so little, that its not going to be the worst thing, or that I am damaged.. hopefully.
The symptoms though, I do think this drug eliminates kinds of emotions, that have to do with largeness, large feelings, big feelings, thats the
impotency factor, or great sorrows, or great joys. Its like you were manic depressive and this is your lithium. But with that is a great cost, no real creativity, no real 'feelings' to contend with, and certainly sex is strangely catorgorized, the homoginous feeling of the orgasm is simply taken away. I guess this is how, or part of how the drug is able to attack the painful things that make us crave opiates in the first place. It can address the brain, or hormones, or glands, whatever, and control impulses which affect behavior. I know its 'coating' receptors, but I think the effect if more than that. This is not an opiate high, though it is akin to it. I think it could be a good drug for kinds of mental illness, or kinds of depression. The side effects we are experiencing, we who use it for a long time, well we are the guiney pigs... and we can decide if we feel its costing more than its helping.
I have decided I want to feel again, the scope of what I feel. I hope that the withdrawl RLS does not go on too long, but I have had that from time to time anyway. And I hope the terrible heebie jeebies dont last long, thats the worst, the creepy edge of the universe nothing fits feeling...
Just the other side of the everything fits and you can do it feeling..neither of them is true. We just live day to day, fitting what we can, going to sleep at night, laughing with our friends. We have a reason to live, even though sometimes it seems like we've lost it. These drugs may have helped at the moment, but they are complicated cost .. and I mean to leave this part behind.
I will let you know how it goes. IM going to go half of my dose three or four days a week for a few weeks, and then .. maybe cut that in half again.
im excited.
god bless you guys.
i have been shooting subs probably 1 to 1.5 mgs a day and now in day 3 of extreme withdrawl. what can help to slow it down and when will it stop??? im in so much pain right now
I know that this is an old post, and that many wish to create a new one. I think these stories and the support is inspirational and realistic. You have real people telling what they are actually going through as they are getting off. Doctors are not always truthful or they aren't as knowledgeable of this drug as they think or let on. I understand the Subs help addicts get over whatever they are on by blocking the receptors in the brain but the longer a person is on them, all they are doing is trading one addiction for another, and one drug for another. (and the WD are twice as long compared to other drugs, from what I understand since this drug is a long-lasting one)
My husband 5 years ago was pulled over and arrested for a DUI. His conditions were 10 days jail time and 2 years suspended license with 3 years probation. He violated, as many drug users and alcoholics do, not once, but 2 times. And the second was for crack (which I NEVER knew he did until he was arrested and I visited him at the jail and he told me what he failed for.) His drug of choice was pain pills usually. After he was arrested for violating and spent time in jail and 4 months work release, he vowed to stop drinking, and doing pills. Which is basically what I told him he had to do in order to make this relationship work, because those two things made him a completely different and not so pretty person that I couldn't stand to be around. He does smoke weed, which I'm ok with because it just mellows him out instead of making him an a$$. He talked to one of the guys at his work about wanting to get off the pills, they told him about being on Subutex and how it takes away that craving for the pills and that high. He didn't have insurance so he bought them off of this guy and he only used a quarter of one a day for the past 3 years (so 1 pill would last 4 days) but at $15-$20/pill, it's still steep. A week before Christmas 2012, he decided all on his own to get off the Subs. I didn't even know about it till I commented on how much he wasn't sleeping and he told me that he stopped taking the Subs for 3 reason he said: 1) He's tired of being on them, he's ready to get off and now is as good as a time as any 2) They are expensive and me being a SAHM money is tight and this will open up a lot more cash for other things 3) For our family and especially for our 2 year old precious girl. So he's been off them for a little over a week. I'm so proud of him and I don't know any of you that have kicked and are in the process of kicking the Subs but I'm proud of all of you. This is a really HARD thing to do no matter how long you've been on them!
I've never been addicted to anything and I don't know how that "drive" feels or the WD so I can't even relate, but seeing it first hand the damage it does to a relationship I can relate to your families'.
This might be a TMI but Subs reduce a man's testosterone...low testosterone means lower energy and NO SEX DRIVE, which causes a HUGE problem in our relationship and I'm sure others. He's 28 and I'm 30 and to have sex once every 3-6 months for 15 seconds is TERRIBLE! He has absolutely no drive to have sex, any kind of sexual activity, at all. The TV and pills are a higher priority than me (TV helps him Zone out). I don't care what anyone says, Subs and drugs are literally "the other woman", IMHO, that he cheats with and prefers over me. I pray and HOPE that this changes in a month or two when he's fully clean to finally be functional.
The second is that it kind of makes them zombie like, I feel like it almost makes him a little depressed. Not a ton of energy, and distant, like he "forgot" how to open up and share without prodding. He used to tell me how his day was and surprise me with a cute card or a text, he used to be flirty but since he's been on the subs it's literally like that ALL stopped. I hope I get the flirty, open guy back.
Sorry so long. But I wish the BEST OF LUCK to ALL!
My husband 5 years ago was pulled over and arrested for a DUI. His conditions were 10 days jail time and 2 years suspended license with 3 years probation. He violated, as many drug users and alcoholics do, not once, but 2 times. And the second was for crack (which I NEVER knew he did until he was arrested and I visited him at the jail and he told me what he failed for.) His drug of choice was pain pills usually. After he was arrested for violating and spent time in jail and 4 months work release, he vowed to stop drinking, and doing pills. Which is basically what I told him he had to do in order to make this relationship work, because those two things made him a completely different and not so pretty person that I couldn't stand to be around. He does smoke weed, which I'm ok with because it just mellows him out instead of making him an a$$. He talked to one of the guys at his work about wanting to get off the pills, they told him about being on Subutex and how it takes away that craving for the pills and that high. He didn't have insurance so he bought them off of this guy and he only used a quarter of one a day for the past 3 years (so 1 pill would last 4 days) but at $15-$20/pill, it's still steep. A week before Christmas 2012, he decided all on his own to get off the Subs. I didn't even know about it till I commented on how much he wasn't sleeping and he told me that he stopped taking the Subs for 3 reason he said: 1) He's tired of being on them, he's ready to get off and now is as good as a time as any 2) They are expensive and me being a SAHM money is tight and this will open up a lot more cash for other things 3) For our family and especially for our 2 year old precious girl. So he's been off them for a little over a week. I'm so proud of him and I don't know any of you that have kicked and are in the process of kicking the Subs but I'm proud of all of you. This is a really HARD thing to do no matter how long you've been on them!
I've never been addicted to anything and I don't know how that "drive" feels or the WD so I can't even relate, but seeing it first hand the damage it does to a relationship I can relate to your families'.
This might be a TMI but Subs reduce a man's testosterone...low testosterone means lower energy and NO SEX DRIVE, which causes a HUGE problem in our relationship and I'm sure others. He's 28 and I'm 30 and to have sex once every 3-6 months for 15 seconds is TERRIBLE! He has absolutely no drive to have sex, any kind of sexual activity, at all. The TV and pills are a higher priority than me (TV helps him Zone out). I don't care what anyone says, Subs and drugs are literally "the other woman", IMHO, that he cheats with and prefers over me. I pray and HOPE that this changes in a month or two when he's fully clean to finally be functional.
The second is that it kind of makes them zombie like, I feel like it almost makes him a little depressed. Not a ton of energy, and distant, like he "forgot" how to open up and share without prodding. He used to tell me how his day was and surprise me with a cute card or a text, he used to be flirty but since he's been on the subs it's literally like that ALL stopped. I hope I get the flirty, open guy back.
Sorry so long. But I wish the BEST OF LUCK to ALL!
I know this is an old thread, I googled withdrawal from suboxone & this page was one of the 1st that comes up. I wanted to share my story b/c everyone withdrawals in different ways.
I was an heavy iv user for 8yrs, I didn't really have a drug of choice I just used anything I can get my hands on. I went through a suboxone matinence program many times, the 1st 2times I detoxed from it I barely felt any withdrawals at all but the 3rd time I was sick for about 4days. However I was in rehab then I think it was soo mild b/c they were always keeping you busy going to meetings & making u exercise. Anything to help u take you mind off the pain.
I was clean for 9mo after I left that rehab but fell back into my old ways.
I then decided to start going to a methadone clinic. I only planned to be there for a year or two but ended up staying there for 5yrs! I can't say I regret going there b/c it helped me put my life back together. I was sober all 5yrs I went there! The highest dose I was at was 160mgs I stayed there for 2years then started to taper, it took me 3yrs to get down to 12mgs & I couldn't go much lower after that. I didn't know until after I was there for a few years how much harder methadone is to get off of compared to any other drug.
After struggling trying to get off of methadone I decided to switch to subutex then suboxone. I stayed on suboxone (16mgs) for 2months till the methadone was compleatly outta my system then I started to taper after a month I got down to 1mg & decided to quit. This time detoxing from the suboxone was much much worse! The 3rd & 4th day was the hardest but it wasn't as bad as going one day w/o methadone. On day 5 I started feeling better it was the 1st I was able to get any sleep. I'm on day 6now & feel soo much better I still get the RLS & the hot n cold sweats, it comes & goes but its not nearly as bad as it was b4.
I wanted to share my story b/c everyone is different, I was told that withdrawals are different w/ each person depending on how high your metabolism is & how long you've been on the meds, each time you detox it gets harder & withdrawals may last longer. I kinda got freaked out when everyone said I'd be sick for over 2weeks to a month b/c I was on methadone for soo long. I have a very high metabolism so that could b y my symptoms didn't last as long as most. A lot of it is in your head tho. If you keep telling g yourself your gonna b sick for a long time then that's what is gonna happen. You may be to sick to move outta bed but you need to exercise! its good to have any kind of distractions to keep you mind off how bad you feel. For me taking care of my 2yr old son was a great distraction, that lil guy kept my soo busy chasing him around I got lots of exercise w/ him. Plus going back to work after a few days help a lot! You just gotta do whatever it takes to keep yourself from thinking about it or you mind will make you sicker longer!
Its def a good idea to rhave you doctor prescribe u something to help you sleep, my doctor recommended that I try a multi vitamin called Solotrex, for me it works very well. I was told that there is something in it that mimicks an opiate so it helps w/ the symptoms a lot & it is non addicting.
I'm just soo relived to be off of the methadone & suboxone, I was soo scared for soo long that I'd be on a matinence program for the rest of my life. Now im proud that I'm 100% drug free!
I was an heavy iv user for 8yrs, I didn't really have a drug of choice I just used anything I can get my hands on. I went through a suboxone matinence program many times, the 1st 2times I detoxed from it I barely felt any withdrawals at all but the 3rd time I was sick for about 4days. However I was in rehab then I think it was soo mild b/c they were always keeping you busy going to meetings & making u exercise. Anything to help u take you mind off the pain.
I was clean for 9mo after I left that rehab but fell back into my old ways.
I then decided to start going to a methadone clinic. I only planned to be there for a year or two but ended up staying there for 5yrs! I can't say I regret going there b/c it helped me put my life back together. I was sober all 5yrs I went there! The highest dose I was at was 160mgs I stayed there for 2years then started to taper, it took me 3yrs to get down to 12mgs & I couldn't go much lower after that. I didn't know until after I was there for a few years how much harder methadone is to get off of compared to any other drug.
After struggling trying to get off of methadone I decided to switch to subutex then suboxone. I stayed on suboxone (16mgs) for 2months till the methadone was compleatly outta my system then I started to taper after a month I got down to 1mg & decided to quit. This time detoxing from the suboxone was much much worse! The 3rd & 4th day was the hardest but it wasn't as bad as going one day w/o methadone. On day 5 I started feeling better it was the 1st I was able to get any sleep. I'm on day 6now & feel soo much better I still get the RLS & the hot n cold sweats, it comes & goes but its not nearly as bad as it was b4.
I wanted to share my story b/c everyone is different, I was told that withdrawals are different w/ each person depending on how high your metabolism is & how long you've been on the meds, each time you detox it gets harder & withdrawals may last longer. I kinda got freaked out when everyone said I'd be sick for over 2weeks to a month b/c I was on methadone for soo long. I have a very high metabolism so that could b y my symptoms didn't last as long as most. A lot of it is in your head tho. If you keep telling g yourself your gonna b sick for a long time then that's what is gonna happen. You may be to sick to move outta bed but you need to exercise! its good to have any kind of distractions to keep you mind off how bad you feel. For me taking care of my 2yr old son was a great distraction, that lil guy kept my soo busy chasing him around I got lots of exercise w/ him. Plus going back to work after a few days help a lot! You just gotta do whatever it takes to keep yourself from thinking about it or you mind will make you sicker longer!
Its def a good idea to rhave you doctor prescribe u something to help you sleep, my doctor recommended that I try a multi vitamin called Solotrex, for me it works very well. I was told that there is something in it that mimicks an opiate so it helps w/ the symptoms a lot & it is non addicting.
I'm just soo relived to be off of the methadone & suboxone, I was soo scared for soo long that I'd be on a matinence program for the rest of my life. Now im proud that I'm 100% drug free!
I've never thought support groups were a good idea, IMHO they were always just another phone number or contact, another venue to mess up. I realize this is only partly true. I've never posted anything online either, I'm lucky, I've done it all and I'm sitting in my blanket right now with the cold sweats.
A few years ago subutex was taken most of my personality, I pretty much had little interest in being social I went from 24mg subs a day to cold turkey as I had a nice vacation package.
Please don't ever try that, even three months later I felt like I should kill myself because my wife was doing everything.
That's when my life long pal brough Satan over on a Saturday. this time I'm much better prepared, I'll share my thoughts but also ask for yours.
1: IMHO you need a program but you also need an exit strategy from this community (that community) so that your not sitting around all day talking about addiction. this should happen after you learn the ropes by heart.
2 this time I was on a half subutex a day for 6 mo and then .25 month then month of .15ish I did this on my own pretty much. Do not have suboxone in your system when you stop for at least 3 months, that **** is Satan too, at other antagonist does more than they admit, stick with the one component that helps you or both if you need that.
12-15 years, I've flown through windows had windshields explode in my face, yep I was never driving but that never took the pain that counted away. I'm now about 3+ days with nothing. I have dreams, I look at my three year old and I know I owe him so much, I might have been dad of the year for three but now I gotta do this for our future. I regret this road never had a place for visitors to get off, and head back home.
Anyone know what sorta tricks to fight fatigue for me we are looking at? When can I start trying to force exercise sessions into the routine? I think that might help, also I need to try to keep my mind off sobriety and start retooling myself for life with sobriety.
I wasted so much potential I will never forgive that much in myself, I can thank the lord I never let it take from others (directly) but I'm not patting myself on the back or judging, my emotions are back though full swing.
one last thought, I've never told anyone but I think early relationship BS in my life might have set off my need to kill pain, I've some soul searching done at this point.
A few years ago subutex was taken most of my personality, I pretty much had little interest in being social I went from 24mg subs a day to cold turkey as I had a nice vacation package.
Please don't ever try that, even three months later I felt like I should kill myself because my wife was doing everything.
That's when my life long pal brough Satan over on a Saturday. this time I'm much better prepared, I'll share my thoughts but also ask for yours.
1: IMHO you need a program but you also need an exit strategy from this community (that community) so that your not sitting around all day talking about addiction. this should happen after you learn the ropes by heart.
2 this time I was on a half subutex a day for 6 mo and then .25 month then month of .15ish I did this on my own pretty much. Do not have suboxone in your system when you stop for at least 3 months, that **** is Satan too, at other antagonist does more than they admit, stick with the one component that helps you or both if you need that.
12-15 years, I've flown through windows had windshields explode in my face, yep I was never driving but that never took the pain that counted away. I'm now about 3+ days with nothing. I have dreams, I look at my three year old and I know I owe him so much, I might have been dad of the year for three but now I gotta do this for our future. I regret this road never had a place for visitors to get off, and head back home.
Anyone know what sorta tricks to fight fatigue for me we are looking at? When can I start trying to force exercise sessions into the routine? I think that might help, also I need to try to keep my mind off sobriety and start retooling myself for life with sobriety.
I wasted so much potential I will never forgive that much in myself, I can thank the lord I never let it take from others (directly) but I'm not patting myself on the back or judging, my emotions are back though full swing.
one last thought, I've never told anyone but I think early relationship BS in my life might have set off my need to kill pain, I've some soul searching done at this point.
Try to only stay on it as long as u need it. I have been on it for two years, And I was introduced to it when I went into rehab two years ago.. At first, I thought it was a miracle drug as well, but now, I just feel as dependent to subs as i did to pain killers. I have tryed to stop taking them, n I beleive they are as bad as comming off the opiates.
I been on suboxone for 6 yrs NOW!!! I hate it!!! It has kept me clean but for somebody like me taking in the first yrs 4 -8mg tabs a day and over a 6 yr period I got down to 4mgs a day and it is impossible to kick... I talked to the head doctor at NY rapid Opiod detox and he said that subutex and suboxone is some of the nastiest **** out there.. And he told me that the best thing to do is to go back to percocet for 3 weeks and slowly taper off them... I know I didn't want to go there but I had someone administer a certin amount of percs a day and it was much easier.... When a doctor tells you that you would be better off doing heroin it kinda wakes you up... Suboxone does help many people like myself but you could end up with a life long addiction to "THE CURE" if you dont do something about it... It's been a month even after the Percocet trick and I still feel it in my system... After being on suboxone for 6 yrs!!! Believe me I would never recommend subutex or suboxone to anyone ... These doctors don't tell you the truth about how amazingly powerful and addictive they are I feel bad for every person out there who are on it.... Do what you can GET THE **** AWAY FROM IT THE LONGER YOU TAKE IT THE HARDER IT IS TO STOP!!!! Trust me I hate my doctor for keeping me on this poison for 6 yrs...
I been on suboxone for 6 yrs NOW!!! I hate it!!! It has kept me clean but for somebody like me taking in the first yrs 4 -8mg tabs a day and over a 6 yr period I got down to 4mgs a day and it is impossible to kick... I talked to the head doctor at NY rapid Opiod detox and he said that subutex and suboxone is some of the nastiest **** out there.. And he told me that the best thing to do is to go back to percocet for 3 weeks and slowly taper off them... I know I didn't want to go there but I had someone administer a certin amount of percs a day and it was much easier.... When a doctor tells you that you would be better off doing heroin it kinda wakes you up... Suboxone does help many people like myself but you could end up with a life long addiction to "THE CURE" if you dont do something about it... It's been a month even after the Percocet trick and I still feel it in my system... After being on suboxone for 6 yrs!!! Believe me I would never recommend subutex or suboxone to anyone ... These doctors don't tell you the truth about how amazingly powerful and addictive they are I feel bad for every person out there who are on it.... Do what you can GET THE **** AWAY FROM IT THE LONGER YOU TAKE IT THE HARDER IT IS TO STOP!!!! Trust me I hate my doctor for keeping me on this poison for 6 yrs...
Hi,
New to this post, only taken suboxone for 30 days after a pretty bad norco detox, 10-11 10/325 per day for a year or so.
how long will my withdrawls last seeing as ive only taken sub for 30 days?
I have 3 kids and i feel like i am being such a lame dad with no energy and unable to sleep.
New to this post, only taken suboxone for 30 days after a pretty bad norco detox, 10-11 10/325 per day for a year or so.
how long will my withdrawls last seeing as ive only taken sub for 30 days?
I have 3 kids and i feel like i am being such a lame dad with no energy and unable to sleep.
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