THE 'FOG'

[suzieneedshelp]

I understand the depression and maliase during/ after detox.  I am today  literally foggy.  Weak, tired but most concerning.. my vision is hard to focus as if i have a veil or thin cloud over my eyes.  Wut is this??
Suzie

[sharonver]

Hey how is your detox going?  We haven't heard from you at all. I have been thinking about you and I hope that everything is going good with you.  You said you were taking time off to detox and  I was wondering if you need any support or help with anything?

Sharon

[dienikad]

The first time I bought heroin, i thought i was buying Morphine. I was lied to. I can't tell you how hard that was, learning that-- I think It made things worse.

Has something like this happened to anyone else?

[hippy]

thanks for your reply rex, always good to hear from you
and your post are full of empthy and compassion.
wish i was with you in the warm weather.
my sister is a diving instructer in the little camin
island, i have an open invtation, if the artic weather does not let up i may have to start packing.
besides that my wife works for fed ex and we can fly any where
for 100.00 round trip, i nice little perk.

but life is great , no real pain to speak of right now , after having a rough month in dec.
we have a close freind at our church who is blind and works with my wife, my wife fixed him up with a girl who has
cerable paulsy and has a hard time walking. they both are 46 and have been single for years they started dating two months ago and now she wants to get married and so does he, i helpd him pick out a engagement ring , he gave it to her tonight.
she is selling her house which is like 30 miles from us and is going to buy right near us. he want me to go with him to find a house. between the two of them they do really good together.
they were here for dinner the othernight and he started to eat and she chided him  for not giving thanks.
i laughed and thought , seems like they are already married.
it is a very warming situation.

peace, your freind  michael

[hippy]

just wanted to say hello,
very nice to see you posting agian.
we have to give away to keep it.

peace!!!!!!!!hippy

your freind michael

[Rex1]

youll be back there too with some time and effort - trust me on that.

Like my friend finished!, I was known as Norco boy.

I am 60 days clean, and with  the exception of some boust of anxiety/depression, like is 180 degrees different than when I was using.

Just think, I woke up this morning and did not think about narcotics once, until I came onto this forum. I wasn't a slave to them, is what I mean.

For me the emotional pain was the worst, so that is better - much better, worlds better!!!!!!!!!!

You will find the Thomas Recipe in the thread above labeled Recipe Seekers. Check it out!

Rex

[TarasWords]

Once again, Thank You. I am so very scared. I know it seems silly. Im scared to quit, im scared to not quit. I am tired of my life revolving around these damn pills! I look at the mothers at my daughters school and think "look how normal they are". I have kept everything normal, I am the room mother and volunteer in the community, Why do I feel like such a loser?

I am getting ready to leave work and will not be able to access this site till monday. BUT I am ready to take any advise I can find when I return on monday.

God Bless,

Tara

[FINISHED!!]

I'll give you my story.
I started taking Vicodin ES about 2 1/2 years ago & continued to up my dose until I reached a point of 20 to 30 a day. I quit cold turkey without any of my friends or family knowing. It can be done but it's not easy. You should try to seek the support of someone close to you. This will make your journey a lot easier. If you feel that this is not an option, you have us at the forum here. I did not until later. What you can expect is the flu for about 3 to 5 days. Cold sweats, the trots, sleepless nights, aching muscles, sneezing fits etc. They are miserably uncomfortable at most. This should all pass after the second week with the worst being over after the third or fourth day. Before my recent accident & surgery, I was over 150 days clean. With every passing day, things get better & better. You may want to try the Thomas Recipe that you'll find in some of the older posts. Drink tons of water AND gatoraid. These both help to flush your system of the toxins & replace the electrolytes lost during opiate withdrawl. Get some immodium for the runs. Take lots of hot baths or soak in the hot tub if one is available. Do not go into the detox with the predetermined thoughts of how miserable this will be. 9 times out of 10, your detox is less miserable than you'll think before starting. Keep in close contact with this forum. We have all been were you are or are heading down the same road. Before you know it, you'll be free!!!

FINISHED!!

[TarasWords]

Finished, Thank You. I have been on codine in all forms. vic, lortab, norco for 2 years. through the dr and from the internet pharmacys. The internet pharmacys make it way to easy and now I am taking more and more. What started out at 2 every four hours is now 4 or 5 every couple of hours. I am a 38 year old female. When I take them I feel "awake, alert and "up" " I want to stop. My husband and family have NO idea about this. I cant belive I have kept it from them for this long of time and would rather them not know now. Any help would be appreciated. I have been lurking on this site for about a week trying to find the courage and the answers I need.

[FINISHED!!]

My first piece of advice would be not to psyche yourself out regarding the withdrawls but I can't really offer much without some info from you because all drugs have different symptoms.

What's your poison? (drug of choice)
How much were you taking throughout the 2 years?
Your age? etc.
Whatever info you can get us would be great!!!

The sooner we can get this info, the sooner we can start getting you ready for WAR!!!

FINISHED!!

[TarasWords]

I am new here. So new I havent stopped yet, But am wanting to. I am scared of the withdrawls and yall have given me some hope and maybe a step of courage in that direction. I have been taking now for about 2 years, nonstop. I am ready, just scared of what ill go through after I stop and also how I should stop.

Thank You everyone.

[Rex1]

Hello Michael,

Thanks for being bud. You are a steady and calming force here. Plus I like the fact that you admit to be being three years older than me.

Cold there in Philly huh?

77 here today. I was going to say "neener neener" but know the cold is hurting you guys on the east coast.

Hope things warm up for you soon.

You can check this out if you want to feel tropical:

http://home.pe.net/~rex1/rex3.jpg

Rex

[hellbent]

Hey,

My fatigue took awhile to go away, but I was taking OC's for a long time at a very high dosage. I had to really work to get over it: forcing myself to get to the gym after several years and rebuild my endorphin production, strength, and muscle mass. It also helped a great deal to get out in the world and relate to other people whenever possible - got me away from my own head, where all I thought about was how weak and miserable I felt.

Initially, the fatigue and myopia of opiate withdrawal is very acute. This acute phase, for me at least, will go away after a period of 1-3 weeks. How much were you taking for how long? Also, are you from the bay area?...I knew someone by your "handle" here. Cheers.

[J. E. W.]

Good for you!!! It does help alot..Hope you keep posting and let us know how your doing!! We can beat those demons wih God and each other!!!!!    God Bless You and Your wife...    J.E.W.

[Blackbelt]

Way to go with the U.P.S.truck. That has cost me a lot of $ and life over the last year. You sound really committed.I think if anyone will make it ,it will be you. I've fought the demons for years and let me warn you of a few lies they tell. A.You can control them ,look how good you've done-What could a couple hurt?
Even though you have severed connections be careful of how they will try to work to get back in your life. "wiles of the devil."
Don't let anyone keep them around you. They also tell you that you can't be happy without and that is a lie.
  Get back to your church( I don't know about other folks but when I post I'm talking to me too) Let's forgive ourselves for being so stupid we continue to believe those lies.
I can get 125 delivered in 3 days. Not this time! I'm gonna pass and be blessed.Got back on after surgery abused naturally. I talk big for first day clean don't I? Your post gave me strenght. Thanks you are an inspiration to us all. If I relapse this time I stand to lose a great understanding wife. You have my prayers and I welcome yours.  
     B'Belt

[FINISHED!!]

Hey buddy,
Just got your voicemail. Sorry I missed your call again. I tried to e-mail you some pics but couldn't make it work. We'll have to wait until Deeanna gets home. She's the brains of this outfit.

Finished!!

[Rex1]

I still want to see some pics of you in action, bro.

Can you do that and still maintain confidentiality and all that? Probably not, huh?

Anyway, you got more guts than me! I hope you are feeling better today bud!

Pain, be gone with you!

Rex

[FINISHED!!]

Nope...not me. It looks like Mike Metzger & Travis Pastrana.

FINISHED!!

[Rex1]

Get out an excercise!

Try bike riding, one of my favs.

Or better yet, take up Motocross like my pal Finished!!!

No hands Can-Can at 45 feet - that'll solve the boredom ;-).

Check web for Motocross + Can-Can for more info or look here

http://www.motoxschool.com/nofootnacnac.htm

Finished!!! may even be the guy in this pic!!!!!!!!

Rex

[kilo]

Hey Rex thanks for the info. 14 days to start to feel normal again is a piece of cake. Considering the fact that this is day 5 for me. Hey J.E.W. way to go on day 12. Sorry to hear about the demons paying you a visit last night. I had some wild dreams about scoring some more pills. Crazy isn't it! Man the things we get ourselves into.

   Rex I have read some of your past posts about re-connecting with God. Before all this started with me, my family and I were attending a great contemporary church with a Christ centered message. Of course that stopped once I found the narcotic god/demon. I surprized my wife last night about going back to that great church. Thanks for the inspiration, I owe it to you. My problem now is that I'm so damn bored. I've got about 3 weeks off before my next job. Know what they say about idle hands and minds. I completely severed and destroyed all my connections to these pills I couldn't find any if I tried. Well I hope this finds both of you strong, and yeah I have been praying for you guys. Take Care

Kilo

[J. E. W.]

Great post.. couldnt of said it better.. Day 12 is o.k. Had some trouble getting to sleep last night. Then had nightmares while I was asleep. Them damn demons were after me...My brain kind of whent into a bit of a fog too.. But Ill be just fine. Noway am I going back.. You sound like your doing alot better too. My next ste is to get rid of these nasty cigerettes. Been there done that too.. Think Ill give that one a little more time though..          God Bless....   J.E.W.

[Rex1]

Its been my experience that most of the stuff you talked about above will go away after 14 days.

Good luck...

Rex

[kilo]

Just read your comments and I cannot begin to thank the both of you. Sounds like you've lived this hell and know all too well what I'm feeling. Sorry I didn't post last night, but it was a tough one. I feel like my legs have ran a marathon, not to mention the countless dreams of these damn pills. You know FINISHED about the time you were coming clean I was relapsing again (about 150 days ago). I have read many of your threads and I'm truly sorry about your accident. There are worse ways of breaking bones, and having it happen while doing something that brings you joy, it could be worse. Please treat yourself carefully, I don't have to tell you to dose for pain, period. J.E.W. thanks for listening and also responding. So how's day 12 going?

I'm not going to sugarcoat this w/d process, it's tough. So far day 5 has been like a walk in the park compared to day 2 & 3. I actually slept about 6 hours and no more runs. Who knows maybe I'll go for a long walk. I can tell you that music sure sounds different after you rid your body of these poisons. The real good news is that I have absolutely no way of getting my hands on any more pills. That's actually refreshing. I know now I have to teach myself how to live my life all over again. I just finished checking out some pictures from 2 years ago (before the narcs found me) and really have no idea how I could've been so happy. It's out there waiting for me to re-discover it. I look forward to the day when I can live my life and not be centered on the next dose. I just know that I can't live my entire life on pills. When does it stop...? A year, 5 years, maybe longer from now. Sooner or later you stop it or it will stop you. I've made my stand. I have much to live for and it doesn't come from a bottle of pills.

You know at times I thought that this world had become a cold place to exist. But, this forum and all that it holds truly reminds me that there are people who really care. I hope and pray that this day finds all of us stronger in our battles.

Kilo

[J. E. W.]

Good luck on your jourey. Im on day 11.It gets better everyday. Take lots of hot baths for the muscle aches,drink lots until your going to burst and then some more....,make sure you eat too,take vitimins.  Ill be praying for you.                      God Bless....        J.E.W.

[oxyblues]

thanks to all ,your posts are inspiring, this is DAY ONE& have the usual w/d symptoms. using the thomas recipe, and yes this does HELP,ty. i will continue to read all posts. and post myself when time allows!! oxyblues xoxo