I have been taking suboxone for 3 years now and I just found out I was pregnant with my second child. I am just really worried what Suboxone can do to my unborn child. I know the first trimester is the riskiest and I am extremely stressed out. I have began lowering my dose because i do not want my child to go though withdrawal when it is born. On the other side of things I am worried I might have a miscarriage trying to get off of Suboxone. Does anyone have any suggestions. Has anyone been through this? Are there any doctors that can offer some much needed advice? Please help. I am scared & stressed out. Thanks.
I was on subutex throughout my pregnancy on the advice and supervision of my doctor. I was nervous about delivery and the possibility of withdrawals. From what I had read online most babies did not have withdrawals or had very short length withdrawals.
A day after my baby was born he started going into withdrawals and had to be taken in the NICU. It was the worst point in my life having to leave the hospital without my baby. He was in hospital for three weeks and I suffered great pain knowing he was in pain and I couldn't bring him home.
I just want to put this out there for others so they will know that this is a possibility and to be prepared for it. It is heartbreaking and I was not prepared. I probably should have been on antidepressants because I almost lost my mind dealing with the depression and anxiety of not having my lil one home with me!!
On a side note dr.s would not give me real pain meds, and after a c section that is just inhumane I don't care what someone has done. The dr.s also treated me like a bad person. My pregnancy wasn't planned and I did the best I could. My doctor was the one who advised me top stay on the meds.
wow this helped me soooo much. i have been harboring feelings of sadness and guilt... i too am an addict and have been taking suboxone while being pregnant. i was taking a 3rd of an 8mg strip at first and at 13 weeks i am taking a little less than a 4th of a 8mg strip. i was told by a doctor at a free clinic to wean myself down cause the stress of withdrawl wasnt good for the baby. i also was a heavy smoker and cut down to 5-7 ciggs a day. all in which i thought was a good start threw the first trimester. so one day i went to the bathroom and noticed some mucus discharge, thought it was weird but carried on with my day. a little later that afternoon i started feeling mild cramping in my stomach and mild pain in my lower back... a little worried i called my mom and she said to go to the ER just to make sure all was well. i had an ultra sound and they discovered there was no heart beat...i was asked if i was a smoker or on any drugs. i responded with a yes to the cigs and no to the drugs... i was worried that the ER doctor would judge me for being on the suboxone.... i forgot to mention earlier that i am pregnant by an X boyfriend that i see casually and was trying to work things out with. completely unplanned. but not unrealistic to keep. i love him. he had a little bit of a hard time getting used to the fact that we were pregnant and going to have a baby. there were a lot of emotional break downs and the blame game began. there was yelling and stress. i kept finding myself questioning if i was making the right decision to keep the baby.... after seeing the baby on the ultra sound i believe it helped him realize that this was real and he soon changed his toon. there was a noticeable difference in the way he was treating me and in his daily habits. i felt happy and now seemingly so did he. when we went to the ER and they told us there was no heart beat we both lost it. he held my hand and hugged me as we both cried. i told him i felt like it was my fault i felt guilty for the suboxone and cigs. his assurance made me feel a little better. i felt lost and shocked as we returned home from the ER with a dead fetus still inside me. i went to bed. i moped around the next few days ... my x boyfriend started going back to his old ways 3 days later, u know bar hoping and staying out till 4 am. coming home blk out drunk and on xanax. he came home tonight and completely blew up on me. saying how for the last three months all i did was mess his head up. and how he finally gets used to the fact he was having a baby and now its gone. how all he asked me to do was quit taking the suboxone but couldnt... how disgusting and sick i am. and how selfish i was for killing his baby. he got a little phsyical and spit in my face several times. his last word to me as he went to his room to pass out at 5 am were get the F out of his house and stay the f out of his life. i laid down on the couch and pulled out the lap top looked up suboxone and pregnancy. i stumbled on to this and i can honestly say it has helped ease my heart. i have been reading and crying for over an hour. its not my fault. what happened to me happens to 1 out of every 5 women. i am glad i stayed on my weaning plan. it was the best plan for the baby and i. what wasnt such a good idea was staying in an abusive relationship and subjecting myself to all that stress. i put my unborn baby and i at risk and now i have to deal with it. i was going to name the baby after my little brother that drown in 2008. Christian.
Here's the deal, suboxone is souly meant for people serious about recovery. If u enter a rehab that provides suboxone you receive it for no more than 3 days! This is not a medication to replace your previous drug of choice! There should be no reason to be on suboxone over 30 days and if you are or you try to ween off you relapse, your simply not ready and you have no business being on subs. Recovery is a process and suboxone one very small step in it. You are obviously hoping people will tell u its perfectly safe for ur child to continue taking subs in the same aspect you've abused drugs, it ISNT! For 1 u should have been more careful considering your in no position to be pregnant right now, with that said and obviously to late to change it should wake u up. Enough to do what's right and FIND the strength to get off the subs in the next 30 days. U seem so concerned if. u withdraw you'll loose ur child, the one thing suboxone is KNOWN for is severe breathing problems that can DEFINATELY effect your. Child at birth and for the rest of its life. I'm no saint, in fact iv been there, but when I made the decision to go kn suns it was to get my life back, not continue.. legally. I'm sorry if this us harsh, but its nothing u don't already know. Sorry truth hurts.
Everyone who acts like they know what they are talking about is so not true. Some people say taper and come off others say not to come off. Are you all doctors??? Only a doctor can tell you to come off or stay on. Every person is different and some can handle coming off and some cannot. As far as the baby w/d some babies feel it and some dont. I was on suboxone and did not come off of it during pregnancy and my baby girl is just fine. She did not show not one sign of withdrawal. Anyways what I am trying to say is no one can tell you what to do about getting off or staying on suboxone except your doctor because everyones body is soooo different
i have been taking suboxone for about a year now. i tried to quit it cold turkey twice and failed. my husband and i have been trying to get pregnant for over a year. i dont need 8mg a day, just a quarter. does taking subs hurt my chances of getting preg?
as for those who are being self rightous expecting everyone to be just like them on subs, this thread is for questions and comments about a situation they are in. no one needs talked down to about their situation when they are clearly going thru enough as it is.
I'm currently 32 weeks pregnant with my second child...I just recently started taking suboxone due to my addiction..I was supposed to go on it awhile back but thought that I could quit by myself but then i realized I couldn't so I went and got help and am taking 4 mg a day...I'm actually quite scared right now..I live in bay city Michigan and I have been hearing from a couple of friends that since they were on suboxone while pregnant and the doctors and hospital knew that they had cps(child protective services) called on them for being on suboxone while pregnant..I was just wondering if there is anyone else out there that lives here or even has had the same thing happen to them? I've been thinking about just getting off of suboxone completely before my child is born just to prevent any contact with cps...Can anyone help me out and give me some suggestions on what to do? My first son(now a year and 4 months) is completely healthy he weighed 6 lbs 15 oz with him i did not find out i was pregnant till I was almost 5 months and i was addicted to Vicodin and was taking quite a lot everyday and then switched to suboxone a little while after finding out...He had a few problems like constipated,I literally had to help him poop he was throwing up(zantac took that away though) other then in the begging he is growing and developing right on track..I'm just scared and just need a little bit of security!
I am 38 weeks pregnant with my first child and I live in Michigan in Detroit...I was completely honest with my OBGYN and was informed that regardless of the fact that my baby is completely healthy they will contact CPS no matter what...and mind you a lot of women post things and Do Not tell the whole story only what they want to say I have done everything by the book and yes they still contact social services which is wrong and will deter women from being honest...which is wrong.
Hey Everyone--> I'm in need of some help/advice. I am 24 years old and pregnant with my 2nd child. I have fought addiction for over 5 years and have been clean for 2 1/2 years. I am on suboxone and had started my "wein down" back in december because I was ready to be off of it. I am down to 4mg and found out I was pregnant. My OBGYN originally told me she wnted me to stop cutting down because withdrawal could cause miscarriage and to stay where I was at on my suboxone and to stay on it through my pregnancy, this thought scared me because I was under the impression i needed to start subutex instead of suboxone and that either one could cause the baby to have withdrawal once born. However, my OBGYN is not the one who perscribes this medication and indicated I needed to talk to my Sub doctor. I just had a Suboxen appointment today and told them I was pregnant- my doctor told me that because I'm on a low mg that he was going to detox me off completely in 2 weeks. He admited that there was a small chance it could cause miscarriage but that "1 in 4 pregnancies end that way anyway" which was concerning. I was told because i'm so low i'll have minimal syptoms. What should I do- because he said if I chose to stay on it I would have to go to a High-risk pregnancy clinic that perscribes subutex. I have worked to hard to be clean and have come too far to be considered "that girl" at a high-risk clinic worrying that my baby is going to be born with withdrawal symptoms but I also dont want my detox to cause a miscarriage-- HELP!!
Thank you for this post.. I am 38 weeks and taking suboxone everyday.. i have not cut back but am worried to death about him having wd's. And I've been doing what you suggestion not doing... worry... all i do is read and read about everyone else.. and get all worked up and can't sleep. My husband and friends all say to stay off the internet but I can't help myself. After reading yoru post, I do feel better and am now going to relax and get ready for my son.
Hi,....My name is Kristen and I am so happy I found this page. I am 13 weeks pregnant and found out at 4 weeks I was pregnant. They switched me from suboxone to subutex right away. Naloxene is not good for the baby. My doctor said that the there is always a chance the babies could go through withdrawals. But the withdrawals are much less then a baby born to a mother taking methadone.
I of course like everyone else am terrified of judgment by the nurses, but ultimately, I don't care, as long as the baby is comfortable and goes through no discomfort.
I have 2 other children and became addicted to pain pills after I gave birth to my first daughter, which pills became a addiction after I was on pain pills for 9 weeks due to back surgery. I was able to quit easily before becoming pregnant with my 2cd daughter
I also pray that the women continue to post on here whether there babies had withdrawals or not after being born and how many milligrams they were on at birth. My doctor said tapering is NOT an option. Sometimes I wonder if thats because of liability purposes.
Anyways, good luck to all these women on this post. Lots of prayers to God ladies that He will care for these newborns all the way through.
My daughter (23) was placed on suboxone by a pain management specialist the the clinic where she was being seen for her first pregnancy. Her baby was born with a very rare (1 in 15-20 thousand) liver disease called billiary atresia. He was 6 lbs 3 oz and the most adorable angelic baby I've ever seen throughout his 10 months of life. We suffered so very much watching him suffer - 18 doses of meds a day before a liver transplant in Jan 2011. The liver transplant was successful but he contracted a deadly virus in the hospital and was on a breathing machine for two full months fully sedated and they had him paralyzed on drugs. He died in my arms in March 2011. I've never been through anything so heartbreaking and will never be able to clear my brain of all I saw and all he went through. They do not know what causes billiary atresia but she would never take suboxone while pregnant again. I pray that did not cause his pain and suffering but I cannot help but worry in the back of my mind that it might have. I also pray that no one will ever, ever have to go through what my family went through and that all babies will be safe and healthy.
Did your epidural work during both deliveries? I am scared to DEATH....I am 24 weeks pregnant now, and was looking into a detox program (a 5 day program, maybe 3) BUT I am having a VERY HARD time finding someone to take me. The ones that DO take pregnant women say I am too far along. I have a friend who was on some HEAVY drugs, not opiates, but she was taken to a local ER and the detoxed her at 7 months, I am considering going tomorrow...but am SO AFRAID they won't take me bc I want to detox off subs, not what she was on...your story REALLY helped a lot, but I still want off. I have been OFF pain pills for a LONG while now and have no worries of relapse, so I am taking Sub just bc I can not get myself off of them. Also, I plan to opt out of getting the Rx of pain pills after delivery...all I want is the epidural. ANY THOUGHT, ADVICE, AND EXPERIENCE would be greatly appreciated!!!
I agree, I hope women continue to post the results from AFTER delivery, I am 24 weeks prego now & on Suboxone...I am going to ask my doc to put me on Subutex when I go back. BUT....My very VERY ULTIMATE goal is to find a 3-5 day detox program and be off completely. Anyways....GOOD LUCK!!! Maybe you will get a BOY this time ;)))
Hi everyone. I am currently 15 wks and have been on suboxone for just under 3yrs as a result of a pretty huge addiction to pills. @ 5wks my dr changed me to subtex as I had already been decreasing my dosage with the help of my dr. My Husband, also a "former" addict is absolutely out of control with me and has been the entire pregnancy. I am down to about 2mg/day from 16 a few months ago but I think I am struggling more with the lack of support from my husband and parents then the actual withdrawl or decrease of meds. He, my husband happens to just be one of those people that can quit cold turkey and be "ok" (theoreticlly of course) wether it was opiats or crack he has been able to just stop...period. I on the other hand am not so lucky. I am in no way afraid of relaps, just the pain. I have terrible back pain and work on my feet 10 hours aday. I know I am ramblling and I appologize, I just need someone to talk to or give me some support since I am not getting it at home. I was told a few weeks ago that I at my age, 31 have a slight risk of a baby being born with down syndrome and am scheduled for a amnio on the 12th. He looks at me everyday as if it is MY FAULT. We have been together for 14yrs and lost twins when we were 18. I did not even know I was pregnant and he would have probably left me then had we known before the miscarrage but because we lost the babies, he has never really forgiven me. I am so desperate to get off this last little doesage just to shut him up but am petrified that I will feel terrible, resulting in the baby feeling terrible. He has barely talked to me the last 3 weeks b/c I did not quit cold turkey when the dr lowered my dosage to 2mg last month. I just cant live like this. Any advise is so very welcome and appreciated. Again sorry for going on and on....I am just very very alone in the battle. At least in my household. Thanks to you all, just reading your comments has been a relief.
I'm married and have two kids with my husband. After my second child I got addicted to tabs and took up to 12 a day for 2 years. I found out I was pregnant about a month ago and quit cold turkey for a few days til my appointment with the Sub doctor. He put me on Subutex because it causes little to no withdraws for the baby. I would love to just quit everything cold turkey but the last two times I quit the tabs and was pregnant I had miscarriages early on because of stress. SO, It is def better to have Subs to help you get through the day. I'm working a full time job now and taking about 8 mg a day. Although I get sleepy at some points during the day, that is a normal side effect of being pregnant. I really believe I will do fine with this pregnancy AND I haven't cared to have a tab since I started takings Subs! :) Also my husband is gone most of the time working and when he's here he's sleeping so I don't have much of a support system either. Anyways! I feel extremely better taking my Subs. I've never been able to work a full time job but now I am. Plus taking care of my two children and on my days off I'm always taking them swimming, to Chuck E. Cheese, Park, etc. You don't need an unsupportive spouse. Find things to do with your time. Keep yourself occupied with things you love to do. When you are happier the moods of people tend to change around you. Hope everything works out for you and congrats on your pregnancy. Almost forgot! My husband also takes pain meds, nerve meds, and smokes weed but he is the type that says he's fine without them too even though he tends to be mean as heck some days.
Of course your dr is the best person to ask, but I wanted to share my experience... I was on 8mg/day Suboxone for about a year when I found out I was pregnant. I went to my PCP figuring he would have me wean off asap. Instead, he told me that he recently had 4 pts stay on subox through the pregnancy to avoid othr pain meds after birth, & said, "the babies turned out perfectly healthy". I felt better, especially because I was terrified of having a miscarriage and thought that the stress of quitting would be harmful to baby. After a few months I got up the courage to tell my OBGYN that I was on Subox (had been worried about being judged!)& she warned me of the awful WD it can put baby thru. I decided to wean off asap. I was down to 0.5mg when I went into early labor, 1mo before due. At the hospital I hesitantly told my nurse about the suboxone; she advised me that because of this my baby would immediately go to/spend his stay in the special care unit. Even tho he was born Perfectly Healthy they would not let me have him in my room. I felt as if everyone was judging me and felt like a horrible mother. Because of my c-section I stayed 4days, and he was there for 5... that one day of having to leave him just about killed me. But Even after we went home, the judging continued... child protective services were at out home a week after he was born, because apparently it is "child abuse" to take this while pregnant. I was told that he didn't even have enough in his system to register in the drug tests when he was born, but because I was honest and told the hospital staff about it, I was listed as a child abuser; furthermore, my boyfriend was included in this because according to them, he shouldve "made me quit for the health of our child". Luckily the CPS worker that was assigned to me was pretty understanding. I have had to do counseling, drug tests, etc, but will not go down permanently as an abuse offender (which wouldve made it so I couldn't participate in school activities, work around kids, etc). As much as Suboxone had helped me with my narcotic addiction, I wish so much that I had quit as soon as I got pregnant and saved myself all of the heartache and embarrassment I went thru. My birthing experience was ruined by the stress of it all. But as a sidenote - baby is now 3mos old and healthy as ever, and for the 1st time in god-knows-how-long, I am 100% drug free!!
Iv been taking suboxone for about 1yr,i take bout .5mlg,a day&just found out im pregnant,im scared cuz I dnt get my suboxone from a docter,i buy it off da street,im scared to tell my docter,cuz its iligle&i dnt wana just stop,cuz my baby cld die,does any one know if they test for suboxone wen the babies born?
There was an earlier post when a young lady said that no matterr whether or not your child is healthy or not when it is born, if you admit to being on subs that the doctor/hospital will report to CPS not matter what. I think that this will deter many women from being honest and being able to trust their doctors. Which is truley the most important thing while pregnant.
You are absolutely correct, im proud of anyone that chooses to take suboxone instead of opiods.Nobody should judge anyone whos trying to do whats best for their unborn baby.Just weigh every possibility.GOOD LUCK!
I'm in the same exact situation as you. I really just want to get off of it all together because I spend so much money buying them off the street. I wonder if I taper myself off slowly if it will be safe enough to not harm the baby.
I am so scared.. I am 6 wks pregnant with 1st child and taking about 6mgs of suboxone a day.. i am a heavy heroin addict (shootin it for yrs) and subos have saved my life. BUT I am so worried bout baby having withdrawal from subutex or subos.. pls any help!
I must say that I have read the different threads of this forum, and without Suboxone being the main source of the topic, each person had their own unique circumstances, just like ANY drug free pregnancy. To all of those who judge, you are not educated about addiction. As previous people have stated, a person does not wake up one day and say, "Hey, I wan't to be addicted to a substance that will ruin my y life and have people judge me like I am some POS." Addiction is an predisposed, genetic condition that by chance can become "triggered" one day, and the opiates actually cause the receptors in your brain to re-wire the way your brain functions, therefore becoming an involuntary condition, where it becomes a physical condition, (like diabetes, heart disease, etc.) and has to be treated as such, and without the judgement and stigma of it. So to all of you who beat yourself up, I had the monetary means to go to the best addiction doctor and I have a medical background to try to logically understand what had happened to ME. I did not wake up one day and say, "Hey, I want to be labeled a drug addict, and let it become so bad, that it is all I think about and worry about, the insurance of having the next pill available, and I equated the addiction to opiates similiar to buying prepaid cell minutes, but mine was prepaid "life" minutes...that awful fear if withdrawal, and being found out. I am not a scientist, but I ponder.....and I have found that women seem to be more at risk for addiction, and the average range can be 35-45. The rise of prescription drug abuse had tripled in 2 years. To all of you, think about this logically. Once you get started on the Suboxone, (That is the HARDEST transition in my opinion), then you are half way there. Since Suboxone is a partial antagonist, it means it is not "substituting one addiction for another." It is keeping the person from becoming physically ill and one the dead end journey to drug abuse, and it does not work on the Gamma or MU receptors, that cause pleasure, like the opiates do. Also, since the Suboxone is sublingual, it means it disolves and goes straight to those receptors, and you are not ingesting it. I am 20 weeks pregnant, and I have had every test under the sun, and so far, the baby is NORMAL. The heartrate is normal, the brain development is normal, all of my bloodwork is normal and all genetic screens have been NORMAL, and I am 40. Now, calm down. If you are on Suboxone, you can taper it. If you choose, you can do this without much difficulty, because you can make it to 1mg, and you can do it. The drug conversion rate equates 1mg of Suboxone to 20mg of Hydrocodone, if that puts things into perspective. The roads that I have been down, to me, 20mg of Hydrocodone is nothing! That is what it would take to bump off the Suboxone for pain control. If you can make ot to .5 mg, than that is the equivelent of being on 1 10mg Lortab's per day. Also, since addiction after you are on Suboxone or tapering does become mostly mental, a baby is born not thinking about it. Now, for those that are on high dosages, I can't say that you are out of the woods. I also think there is a possiblity of issues taking more than 4mg per day. Each person is different, but let me tell you, I sure in hell would think it out and make a plan before owning up to it, and have CPS come into my life. Unless they do a 12 panel drug urine screen, Suboxone DOES NOT show up on a urinalysis, even one that screens for Methadone, which is a hell of alot stronger than Suboxone strips. I promise you all, that unless they do a specific drug test, (and the state usually does not have the funds to have those urine kits in stock) I would keep it private.I am not being condescending, but most state workers don't get paid much, and have such heavy caseloads for real issues, that most of the time they are a day late and a dollar short, a woman on Suboxone shows someone who is taking the appropriate, voluntary action to get clean. Also, to all the expert bloggers on this post, my OB docs have me on XANAX. I have gone through panic attacks and have had alot of truamatic things happen in my life, they felt that I would be worse off, and it was safer than blood pressure meds. Yes, we are weaning, but it is a case by case issue. No downs, no cleft palet, no DS. Try not to worry so much. I know, I do too. It is human nature!
These posts have been a godsend to me. When I found out I was pregnant (about 6 weeks) I wad taking 12 mgs. of suboxone a day. I called my prescribing doc right away. he started me on a very quick taper, and I struggled terribly with it. The withdraw combined with awful morning sickness made me feel like I was dying. I am now 10 weeks and only taking a half a mg. I'm still very much struggling with withdraw and also guilt. I was afraid I damaged my unborn child. When I ask the docs what kind of effect this could have on the baby, the sub doc says ask your obgyn, and the obgyn tells me ask the sub doc. It made me feel better to hear from actual people that lived it. I'm so glad to hear there is a chance for my baby. hopefully by this time next week I will be sub free. Thank you everyone for being strong enough to share your story
you said everything i wanted to that one comment. I know from experience that you cant tapper off too quick due to the something about it affecting the red blood cells and causing miscarriage but thanks for replying to that comment
how are you now? u ok? I was on methadone for 8 yrs. and found out i was preggo and had that child with no dhr or anything wrong thank god. then same with my 2nd child then with the 3rd child i had to tell my doc. he reffered me to a specialist and put me on subutex. now im on suboxone and doing good u can too!!!!!!!!
i am 25 and 10 weeks prego with my first and i have been on suboxone/subutex for two years now (suboxone at this time), the most i have ever taken is 4-5mg and now that i am prego i tapered down to 1-2mg a day, i am not prescribed them, me and my sister were both addicted to roxycodone together and each taking about 15 30mgs a day when we quit 2 years ago, i know it was alot, but even taking that amount we went straight to 4mg of suboxone and were fine, my sister was the one that went to rehab because i didnt have insurance and we have just been splitting her script. im afraid to tell the dr cuz i dont want to get my sis in any trouble, but i feel like i need my doctors help getting off. i let myself get to the point of withdrawals before i take more each time because i want to take as little as possible but even taking only 1mg a day, if i take some right before i go to bed i wake up with withdrawals. its really true, no matter how much you take the withrawals are still the same when u stop taking it... anyways i just want to have a healthy baby and if that means i have to go through slight withdrawals thats fine as long as it doesnt hurt my precious cargo, thats why im going to wait till my second trimaster to quit, and i think thats what anyone should do if they are planning to quit, DO NOT DO IT IN THE 1ST TRIMASTER, the baby is at its most fragile in the first trimaster and im no dr but from what ive been reading it is safest to quit stuff like suboxone and smoking in the second trimaster, the 1st trimaster and the 3rd trimaster are very sensative times for the baby. i do think it is best for me (and my baby) if i just quit all together, i have read alot of things that tell me the baby will be fine if i continue taking it but out of about every 100 things i read telling me the baby will be fine, i read 2-3 things telling me the baby wont be fine so i would rather stop than take any chance of causing my baby problems, im not trying to talk down to anyone at all, i completely understand how hard addiction is and how much stress it causes, but i know i will feel like a POS if my baby comes out with any problems, i know its almost impossible to quit but im gonna try so please wish me luck, i hope i can do it, and thanx to everyone who posted comments, they have really helped me decide what to do, im gonna try to quit and most likely not tell my dr, for the safety of my sis, and ofcourse if i have any problems i will tell him right away... oh and on a sidenote, for all of you talking down to these poor stressed out moms to be, you really need to think before you speak, everysingle woman on this sight is only worried about the wellbeing of thier child and would mostlikey rather die then have there child come out with wd's or some other problem, but when it comes to thier child living or dieing, they will rather painfully choose to put thier child through those things. i would love to see you all go through the same thing and make a differnet decision!
oh i forgot to mention, my sister asked her doctor if he would switch her to subutex if she became pregnant (obviously she was asking for me) and he said that she would have to take a preg test and do a bunch of paper work for it to be possible but that even if she does that the chances of being switched are low because he is a private doctor and they have really changed the laws on how much and how often doctors can prescribe subutex (another reason why ive decided to quit). He told her that he has had numerous patients that have taken 1 to 4mgs a day throughout thier pregnancy and they have all had healthy full term babies, he hasnt had one patient whos baby has had any serious problems do to suboxone, even long term. but please dont base your decision on this information, cuz ive heard it and im still gonna try to completely quit.
My girl is 12 weeks preg with our second son, after my first son was born sonewhere aling the line we started in pain pillz then to snorting heroin. We still maintained giving our son a GREAT life since i make good decent dough at my job. But point is what im sayin is we was kinda doin both opiates wishing we didnt have to but tryed to stop so many times but couldnt on our own we kinda kept pullin 1 & another down & quickly relapsing then eventually all in the sudden we found out she was 9 weeks preg so i been buyin suboxin pill tablets & also the strips both 8 mg for 10$ & we been clean for only 5 days now but we did it for my son & also the new baby tgats still growing out of fear of complications i know ur suppose to just do it for urself but our kids is our only possible motivation i guess BUT IS OUR GROWING BABY GONNA BE OK YALL THINK??? Since she snorting decdnt lines of heroin everyday & now took 4 mg if sunoxen for 5 days in a row? Our last doctor visit they said everything looked good but im still scared! Some one please let me know what you think bout me & my sons mothers story.....
Dont worry I do the same thing, I am trying to get into a clinic but its taking so long.
The doctor didnt ask me where I got them, but try to get into a clinic so they can monitor if your baby is safe.
But I am so worried my baby will be harmed by me taking the suboxone, I am now taking subutex which is safer.
I quit everything else, such as smoking but my doctor said not to stop taking suboxone or subutex it will only harm the baby more.
Actually I think what she said is very true..sorry Hun but suboxone is a drug..n I've been on it for sometime..and I would love to live life without it..I hide it from everyone..and I feel like I can't work out the way I used to..I feel like imma pass out..so u are not the real u..what she suggested is good if u were not pregnant..but the point is..u need to get off it..dosnt take a genius to figure that out..everyone is different so that lady that claims her kids were fine..which I don't get..but hey that was her dosnt mean urs will be too!..and for someone to be picky about what drug they will take while pregnant is funny..no I'm not gonna take Xanax but I'm taking suboxone..smh..they are both not healthy
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I know these posts are a few years old, but I too am pregnant and on prescribed pain meds. I am really worried about my baby being born with withdrawls and I dont want that at all. I just wanted to see how everything went with your little one. And if you have any advice on this subject for me.
Thanks so much
Thank you so very much for all of your comments. I've been in tears all morning, as soon as I found out I was pregnant at 5 weeks I have been trying to get switched from suboxin to subutex. it's been so hard everybody has been giving me the runaround. no suboxin talk to her will accept Medicaid. I have absolutely no choice in remaining on the suboxin throughout my pregnancy at this point. I am terrified for the health of my baby. I have weighed myself down to two milligrams a day. My OBGYN is wonderful, though she did suggest to try and get switched a subutex, if I could. they won't take me. reading about how you ladies have healthy babies well on suboxone has made me feel so much better and I wanted to thank you from the bottom of my heart. I have quit smoking, been taking my prenatals and eating very healthy. this is my first baby and all I want is for here she to be born healthy, but I know I can't stop taking it cold turkey, for fear it could cause me to miscarry. I am 12 weeks along now. as soon as I found out I was pregnant I lowered my self to the lowest possible does I could manage. is it really safe to breastfeed while on suboxin? I really hope that I can breastfeed because I know that is the healthiest for my baby, but I was afraid because of the medication. reading your posts made me feel so much better and I just wanted to thank you all for the encouragement.
This is an older thread, but I wanted to make some comments.
There is a lot of misinformation in this thread, just FYI.
Like, it's absolutely NOT true that CYS automatically gets called and the baby automatically gets taken away. THOSE situations usually happen when a woman has not been honest with her doc. The BEST course of action in any of these cases, where a pregnant woman is on a med (any med) is to be 100% honest with her OB, and as soon as possible after finding out they're pregnant.
To recommend not being honest with her doctor WILL likely put a woman in a situation where she will have to contend with CYS. It's not good advice.
There's no right or wrong in these situations, they are all different. It's vital to follow the recommendations of your doctor. If you feel your doc is not educated enough about this (and many aren't), then find a doc who is familiar and has experience with treating women in these situations.
Taking ANY med during pregnancy comes with risks, but in the case of sub, there are also risks to trying to come OFF the med. That's where it's important that the mom to be educate herself, talk to her doc, and come to an informed decision, after weighing the risks and benefits.
Certain meds are absolutely contraindicated in pregnancy pretty much no matter what. One that would be is Xanax. Xanax is a category D med, it shouldn't be taken during pregnancy, except in very VERY rare cases. Of course, a medically supervised taper would be necessary to safely come off it.
Here are the Pregnancy Risk Categories, broken down and explained:
Adequate and well-controlled studies have failed to demonstrate a risk to the fetus in the first trimester of pregnancy (and there is no evidence of risk in later trimesters).
Animal reproduction studies have failed to demonstrate a risk to the fetus and there are no adequate and well-controlled studies in pregnant women.
Animal reproduction studies have shown an adverse effect on the fetus and there are no adequate and well-controlled studies in humans, but potential benefits may warrant use of the drug in pregnant women despite potential risks.
There is positive evidence of human fetal risk based on adverse reaction data from investigational or marketing experience or studies in humans, but potential benefits may warrant use of the drug in pregnant women despite potential risks.
Studies in animals or humans have demonstrated fetal abnormalities and/or there is positive evidence of human fetal risk based on adverse reaction data from investigational or marketing experience, and the risks involved in use of the drug in pregnant women clearly outweigh potential benefits.
FDA has not classified the drug.
For reference, Suboxone is a category C medication, as is Subutex. Naloxone is also a category C medication. Subutex is generally considered the better option between the two (Suboxone and Subutex) during pregnancy, as it doesn't include the Naloxone, so the Mom is only contending with ONE medication versus two.
ALWAYS discuss these issues with your doctor, and always be honest with your doctor, even if you're taking something illegally. Of course it's scary, but the doctors are there to help you and to help ensure your baby has the best chance. You have to overcome the fear in order to make sure that happens.
I was on suboxone for 2 years for pain management. I found out I was pregnant, after being told I could not have children only 4 months before, in June of 2013. As soon as I found out I went to my suboxone doctor who immediately switched me to subutex. I was on 4mg of suboxone and switched to 4mg of subutex. We had to gradually increase my dose up to 24mg a day because the pregnancy was so hard on my back and I was experiencing withdrawal symptoms. My daughter was born 4 weeks early due to loss of fluid and a variable in the heart rate. She was pre-term but still weighed in at 6lbs 4oz. She was kept in the hospital for a week to watch for withdrawal symptoms. The only symptom she had was sneezing. They released her after one week and she came home perfect. She is now 6 1/2 months old and extremely smart and well past her peers in her milestones. I am currently being weaned off the medication and I am back down to 8mg. It was horrible leaving my child at the hospital when I went home but I followed my doctors directions and held her constantly to help her with the withdrawal and I breastfed. YES I BREASTFED! There is nothing better then a mom's milk to help an infant especially one born addicted to an opioid. Even if you plan on formula feeding please give your infant the first few days of breast milk and colostrum, its super beneficial. My child is perfect today and I am so glad I did not wean myself off and risk losing her.
just curious, what pain control did you use for delivery? epidural? did it work as effectively with the subutex, and with no side effects? I am 4 weeks and 5 days pregnant. I have been taking subutex for over 3 years for pain control, as i have fibromyalgia, rhematiod arthritis, 2 bulging disc in back, and IBS. It helps out considerably for the pain control, but i am desperate just to taper off of it, and get off completly, but am afraid of withdrawls for the baby. what do you recommend? thanks so much!
I found out i was pregnant for the second time a week ago. Ive been taking 2 milligrams of Suboxen almost everyday for around 5 months, when i found out i completely stopped since i knew no drugs was best. It was the worst 4 days of my life, at first i thought it was just real bad neasau but i couldnt do anything i was in so much pain 24/7 so today i went and bought a strip, and after feeling extremely guilty, i found this site witch has answered alot of questions, i feel no more withdrawl systoms thank god, but if course still feel bad about taking something that may harm my baby, but after reading about withdrawl and miscarriage, maybe i did the right thing. I dont have a script i choose to get on the strips just as i once choose to buy opiates, i didnt plan on becoming pregnant but here i am, after reading about cps im more then hesistant about telling a doctor, i also live in lapeer, michigan and im not trying to deal with that, i think the withdrawl from suboxin is way worse then vics and perkacetts were, i messed up when i thought this was the answer. I dont get high off suboxen, i feel normal now. I just get that energy boost i feel i need to be a good mom to my beautiful 4 year old daughter, without it i feel depressed and ill and feel like a bad mom its hard to explain. Thanks for the topic and help, im less stressed already i feel tapering down and overcoming this addiction is the best choice. Easier said then done i know. And to the ppl commenting on this that dont have addiction. So really cant understand us, your uneducated and should be minding your own buisness. No one here is excited about being on suboxen, as im reading were frightened of harming are babies, im feeling horrible about it but dont have any other options right now, the withdrawl from this is absolutley scary and painful its like the stomach flu that wont go away.i thought four days and id start feeling bettet haha not even a little. I need to take care of my daughter and cold turkey wasnt helping. Good luck to all of you, thanks for sharing and listening to my story
Kohler's disease has nothing to do with Suboxone use.
"The exact cause of Kohler disease is not known, but one possibility is poor blood flow to the tarsal bones due to a vascular accident. Kohler disease may also be related to certain underlying genetic diseases."
I hope you havent really been blaming yourself for this.
I know this is an old thread, but I am posting for the women who will search for this in the future.
I've been on suboxone for 5 years now (since 08). In 2010 I gave birth through c-section (that had absolutely NOTHING to do with my taking suboxone. I chose to become induced around my doctors untimely vacation and after laboring all night she decided the stress on my baby girls heart was getting to the point where she needed to come now and I wasn't progressing quickly enough) to a perfectly healthy baby girl. At the time I was taking a ridiculously miniscule amt of Suboxone, less than 1/10th of a mg. Today as I type this she is a perfect little 3 year old who has no issues what-so-ever. With the exception of occasionally trying to get away with not listening. ;)
Today I found out I am pregnant with my 3rd child (2nd that I will give birth to) which sent me on the search to find out if any more has been discovered about suboxone and pregnancy since 2010 and I am very happy to see mine was not an isolated experience. I am currently taking 1mg of suboxone a day. I'll taper that throughout my pregnancy after the first trimester.
And if a year from now I remember, I will post my baby's status. =) I do have the utmost confidence that this will be fine.
Research, research, research! Science and the understanding of how the medications work and how you're body works during pregnancy is your best friend!
Because I was on suboxone I was treated like complete **** while having my baby girl regardless of the fact that I had been clean for 3 years. People who havent been there dont get it and being judgmental seems to come so easy to us as humans, unfortunately.
My husband was also treated like **** although hes never done a drug in his life and was the whole reason I became clean!
Anyway, my nurses hardly spoke english (asian or japanese idrmbr anymore) and asked me if I needed any help, which I took as like WIC kind of help. Apparantly they meant do I need CPS to get involved because as Im leaving the hospital we got a very unexpected visit from a CPS worker. She understood that it had been a misunderstanding and that Id been clean for years and I havent dealt with them since.
So be prepared for stigma's like this to follow you, but it's worth it to do whats best for your baby.
In the end you and your doctor have the final decision making on what to do. =)
hi I read your post and am 31 weeks pregnant on suboxon I wanted to know how much were u taking and did ur baby have any withdrawls?? and if he did did they make u breastfeed my sub doc said id have to breastfeede but then another woman said the sub dissolves under your tounge and the sub dosnt go into the breast milk do you k now anything about it
my friend has been on 16mg suboxone, 8mg xanax and 200mg of seroqual daily her whole pregnancy.she is 8 months pregnant now.. I told her that was harmful to the baby but she swears its not. Whose rite..me or her and also if it is harmful..in what way?
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