Taking percocet after Norco withdrawal??

[norcs4life]

I have been clean of norcos for 6 days.  What I would like to know is what would happen if I took percocet a single time.

Just an FYI, I have real chronic pain, I understand the percocet are addictive, etc., etc.  Basically I want to know if I had to take Percocets for breakthrough pain a single time would it set back my noroc withdrawals.

Thanks in advance for any help.

[cleangimnow]

First, I am not a doctor, but I had pharmacology courses before I realized being an addict pharmacist wouldn't be a good idea (thank God I had that much foresight when I was a bit younger). Now I'm an addict accountant who has to be a bit more creative....anyway what everyone say is true. An opiate is an opiate. There is a reason that they give methadone as an opiate "maintenance" drug. It'll still get you high and kill pain. What you are suggesting really is like using gin for vodka w/d.
Secondly, you will find that many addicts are quite the experts by the time their addictions have progressed. We tend to know more about our drug of abuse than a doctor would from a ton of experience and actual research (either from the time in recovery or in active addiction to figure out what will get us high). So, you really should have a lite trust here.  I can understand your mindset but I promise you that it is the addict talking. Heck, I was on suboxone a year and a half. That was just like fighting a 2 glass of wine a day addiction with a pint of whiskey a day. Percocet for hydro isnt as extreme but similar.  

Congrats on your clean time!  Hold it sacred!

[Sad_Woman]

Look, it's a "medical fact" that your brain does not give a crap if it's norco, perks, oxy or heroin..they are ALL opiates and taking one would lead you to take another. This is your addiction pulling out every trick in the book to get you to use. Rebound pain is a very real phenomenon that occurs when someone quits the pills. Basically those receptors are screaming out for what it wants - the drug - so it will manufacture all sorts of pain and emotional crap to get you to use. How do you shut those hungry receptors down?? YOU DON'T TAKE THAT PILL. Sorry to be so blunt but despite being told over and over what would happen it sounds like your looking for justification to take  pill. If your really serious about this then head to the doc and ask for a non narcotic pain killer and don't even think about taking an opiate. My "one" pill was the beginning of a year long relapse for me. We're addicts, we don't just do one pill. I hope you make the right choice here. Don't fall for your addictions tricks to suck you back in. You've come way too far for that.  

[norcs4life]

Maybe I'm looking for an answer I'm not going to find on this board or anywhere and I certainly respect everyone's opinion BUT I still don't feel like my base question has been answered and from other posts I've read in the past I have a feeling there are some people here that have the background to answer my question in a scientific fashion.

Ghilly is what you stated scientific fact???  I'm truly asking this question because that's what I want to know, are the receptors for oxycodone and hydrocodone the same??? and if so would placing oxycodone, a single time, into those receptors, essentially undo what I've accomplished with my quitting norcos.

I get what I'm asking kind of upsets the balance for some people but that's not my intention, so if we take the emotion out and we're in a vaccum does anyone have the knowledge to answer my question????

So let me say again I respect everyones opinion, I respect the plight with addiction (regardless of the substance) but if we can leave that at the door and focus on the science that is where my questions are based.  I have seen addiction in many forms in my life and I'm not trying to belittle anyone or any opinion but I would like to leave emotion out and focus on science for this specific question.  Anyone???

[Ghilly]

An opiate is an opiate.  They all attach to the same receptor in your brain, so when you get those receptors cleaned out of one opiate, to take another one, even one that's a different kind, will put you right back to square one.  If you are serious about remaining clean, then do NOT take a percocet.  Besides, as opiates go, oxycodone is even stronger than hydrocodone (which is the opiate in Norco), so that will make taking a percocet an even worse idea.

Ghilly

[gnarly_1]

as addicts anything narcotic is a no no......right now your experiencing rebound pain it is a little more intence there are no natural endorphins in your brain yet but once they begin to form your pain level will go down most of us myself included are in less pain now then will on the pills its a viscous cycle the body creates pain to get the narcotic once the chain is broke your pain clock sorta resets itself it takes some time but with time things like ibuprofen will work agian give it some time whatever you do dont stick any more narcotics in your body it willl prevent your brain from healing and producing endorphins this is a waiting game from her in your pain will be a bit more sever but then it will taper off just hang in there for a wile good luck and God bless......Gnarly  

[norcs4life]

Imdonenomore - you've touched on exactly what I'm asking.  When it comes to withdrawals would taking an opiate like percocet interrupt my norco withdrawals or is it just the idea that someone who has a norco addiction/dependance should not be tempting fate with other opiates?

I would love for some members with knowledge of this subject to chime in.  Anyone else have something to add???

[ImDONENoMore]

Well - of course, I'm not a Dr. (my posts will prove that! lol)

Only it seems to me that an opiate is an opiate (is an opiate....)?  Not quite sure there's a difference?  And I don't mean that in a bad way - truly.  Just not sure I see a difference here - at least as far as it relates to addiction and being an addict.

I'm sure other members will post their opinions!  But good luck to you and hope you're feeling better soon!  :)

[norcs4life]

Appreciate the advice.  But does anyone know from a medical standpoint (or in more specific medical terms) what the effects would be.  As I understand it these are different narcotics, both in the same family but different.  So does the alcohol analogy ring totally true or is that advice more based on advising me to not go down that path??

I'd really like to know from a medical standpoint what the deal with these 2 meds are, anyone?

Appreciate in ladies and gentlemen.

[ImDONENoMore]

OMG I forgot the most important thing here - CONGRATS on the 6 days!!!!

[ImDONENoMore]

Oh yeah, and don't forget - we're ADDICTS.  There's no such thing as one pill.

[ImDONENoMore]

Not a good idea - see a Dr. and find a good non-narcotic way to manage your pain.  And alternative therapies are a good thing to also look into.

Take percocet for norco withdrawal is like drinking gin for vodka withdrawal.  NOT a good idea!!

Good luck to you - and hang in there. Time is your very best friend right now.  :)