ADDICTION: SUBSTANCE ABUSE COMMUNITY
Tall Tim

Tall Tim

You need to Find another Doctor...that pill count seems mighty high to me... Do you have an legit RX for that kind of intake?

Tim... your need to take your life back for yourself.  Do it the best way you know how to do it.

Actually if you did make a serious attempt to talk to him and he refused... I'd report him.   He at the very least should have been able to make some recommendations to set you in the right direction for some help.   I can't even imagine that a professional would just clearly cut you off and say NO HELP.   It's against everything a Dr. Stands for.   Stories like this make me crazee.

Unfortunately after reading post after post here for a month I don't think there is a painless - non-detectable way to Detox.. unless of course you can afford a trip to Florida and go to the clinic that will Detox you under Anestesia... that cost $20,000.  It's where Dr. Phil sends his opium dependant pts.  I know someoene personally who did this.  They are fine, and it's seemingly a painless way you wake up Clean.  There is a drug they use to get this affect... but I truly don't know what it is I have never researched it.

Insurance does not pay for it.

Please... get yourself some help.   Not that anyone's addiction is better or worse than anyone here who is trying to get help but that's a lot of pills bud...you truly are heading in the right direction if you want to save your family... please find yourself some help.  FOR YOU FIRST... the rest will fall into place

Gip
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Tim -
   At the end of my hydro addiction I was up to 35-40 #10's a day.  It started with being prescribed pain meds after a serious accident when I was 37.  That was after 9 years of abstinence from alcohol, following 10+ years of alcoholic drinking. At first it was a few tabs here and there, but over a period of years it grew into an every day thing.  Then, the quantity per day began to sky rocket.
   I had been through withdrawal/self-detox on lower doses before and any kind of cold turkey was just no longer an option.  The muscle cramps, cold sweats, restless leg syndrome, constantly running (crawling, actually) to the can, etc. I was just too afraid of it.  I came up with the bright idea of using coke to wean my self off the tabs and avoid the withdrawal.  That actually worked a time or two, but on the last try (following one of many relapses) I came to a point where there were no tabs nor any coke to be found.  A supplier suggested I just try some crack, since "it was the same thing only better" and once the withdrawal got bad I did.  It did take care of the withdrawal and the hydro addiction.  Within days I no longer gave a damn about tabs, I just wanted more crack.  
   There is a "receipe" that was on this board frequently back then ('02-'03), which helps with withdrawal.  I used it with short term success - it did help me GET clean, but I was unable to STAY clean.  I copied it from the archives and will copy it below.
   However, my best advice would be to just give it up and get professional treatment. When I was "where" you are now (250 - 300 mg/day) I had more than a few chances to ask for help.  I flatly rejected each one as being simply out of the question. I was "certain" that any such move would ruin my life.  I "knew" that my wife would leave me, that I'd lose my kids, that my career would be over, etc., etc., etc.  In a very real way, however, those hard "facts" took a second place to what really stopped me from coming clean and asking for help.  The real deal was that I suffered from an enormous amount of shame and guilt over what I had become.  I felt that I had to fix it myself and the only thing that could be worse than the mess I was already in would be to let everyone who loved and counted on me find out that in fact I was a failure.  I viewed anything short of self-help, with NO ONE finding out, as absolute and final failure. Shame, guilt, fear and pride not only kept me sick, they came VERY close to killing me.
   My self-help program didn't work.  I had periods of success.  Several times I made it for 30+ days.  Once I made it for 58 days.  But there was always some "reason" that I needed a tab "to help me through" something.  Each time I vowed that I wouldn't "let" it get out of control as it had in the past and I came up with various schemes to make sure I stayed in control.  
    Of course, none of that worked.  I don't control active addiction, it controls me.  If my addiction is active (at all) it is in 100% control.  Each time I relapsed it got worse.  That's what active addiction does; it gets worse.  Active addiction never gets better.  It ALWAYS gets worse.  Addiction doesn't even get better even when it's not active; it patiently waits to be reactivated - it waits for any chance to be reactivated.  
    My true recovery did not start until my addiction was brought into the light.  Addiction thrives in the dark. It cannot survive in the light.  Guilt, fear, shame and pride are weapons that the disease uses to get you to keep it in the dark, where it can go stronger every day.  If addiction is not arrested (and kept forever in a cage) it will take you to one of three ends: jails; institutions; and death.
    I can see me reading something like this a few years ago and saying "well, of course CATUF needed treatment - he turned in to a damn crack addict!  I'd never do that!"  I came to realize that my addiction to hydro was actually worse that the crak addiction that into which it morphed.  Hydro I could hide.  I was a slave to a drug that no longer made me feel anything but 'not bad" and I was spiritually dead.  However, I could still maintain the lie to the world (and myself) that I was OK.  Once crack hit this addict's system the charade was soon over.  Everything came crashing down around me and I was smashed to my knees.  All the fight and will power was ripped from me.  Thus, for the first time I had a chance to recover from the disease of addiction.
    Well, here's the receipe - good luck.  CATUF
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"The Thomas Receipe"
L-tyrosine 500mgs 8 times day in the morning the first week.  Then 4 a day thereafter.
b-6 100mgs 2 a day
calsium -magnisum
a strong multi vitamine
vitamine A-E and C
magneese/ zinc/ copper/ phosphous
imodium (immodium) for the runs
something for sleep the first week (optional) xanax or valium taper
off it as the week progresses,
lots of water and or gatoraid in early part of the day for lost electrolites.
something for restles legs like a prescription of( cinemet)or
something in that order.
lots of hot bath at night week 1 for the restless leg and body
the more the better.
after week 1 try to start working out , exersize as much and as
hard as possible to get the natural endorphine s up and working.
post as much as possible and keep in touch with the fourm members here and anywhere else you can find support.
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