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3199802 tn?1362250559

Taper or cold turkey

I have been taking hydrocodone 7.5/500 for about 7 years after a major surgery and fibromyalgia. I want off this crap. I have to take way too many to feel good; it's miserable!!  1 have 15 pills left and am going on vacation in 2 weeks. I want to be off these and feeling better by then. I am on second day cold turkey and I have not slept, constant headache, severe muscle pain, resless legs, irritable, gi symptoms, crying constantly. I don't know if I should use these last 15 or continue cold turkey. Unless I take all of them at once they won't get me high. I have such a tolerance now it's terrible. I don't feel life is worth living right now and I hate that feeling. I am not one that would ever harm myself just feel awful. Help please!!!
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Day 4 is good. I bet by this afternoon you may start feeling better. And by tomorrow you should see a change. I had to work thru my wds, it was hard but it kept me busy. I am on day 8 and my brain is still foggy.
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1970885 tn?1435860428
Yes...Go to Ask a Question and fill in the blanks.
If your detox was anything like mine, you'll never forget it. I even printed out my first posts and read them every so often just in case. The first two days of my withdrawal I tried watching TV - days 3 thru 5 I couldn't sit still. Anyway, a couple of the shows I watched then I've watched now, and just hearing the theme song makes me feel weird.  
Now go ahead and post your achievement. Excellent job.
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3199802 tn?1362250559
Yeah yeah you told me so :-P. Lol!! There were a few times if I knew where you lived I might have slapped ya though ;-D. I will totally do a separate post; I thought people would see it from here. So I just go back on where it says ask a question? Great day man-just seriously gotta remember this past week though  and get some things in place
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1970885 tn?1435860428
See...I told you so. You should do a one week clean post. It would be good for you and is always an inspiration for people just starting out, because, if you remember, the first week can be hell, so reading about someone who's just gone through it is always helpful. Just a suggestion.
Many congratulations - be very proud of what you've done. You did something that is hard to do; detox can bring even the toughest to their knees.
Enjoy today; cry all you want. See you in week two.
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3199802 tn?1362250559
One week today :-D. Man I honestly can't believe it from the way I felt 7 days ago. I got 5 good hours of sleep last night. I praise God and all the wonderful people on here for truly caring and being there when I really needed ya!!  I know I got a long way to go but I know I got this. I just somehow got to remember this horrible week and make it stick in this addict head!!  That "addict" is a hard word to call yourself!!  It was much easier as the nurse on the other side performing the "COWS." I am sure I will show much more empathy now having experienced it myself. I probably will listen a little harder to each answer and go a little faster to get that Suboxone, Ativan, etc.  Not to take away from anyone else who has helped me but I gotta give a big shout out to Kyle for somehow being there day or night when I needed it the most. I would write more but I am crying too much and this time the tears are of joy!!!' ;-)
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3199802 tn?1362250559
Appreciate it Kyle! I have 3 kids altogether too. Daughter is the oldest but will always be my baby. My sons are almost 21 and 25. Funny thing they all despise drugs.!!!  

Marianne
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1970885 tn?1435860428
I hope you sleep well. You've got lots more time to spend with your daughter; make it quality, clean time. My kids (17, 19, 24) like me much better now that I'm clean. Enjoy tomorrow.
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3199802 tn?1362250559
Going to bed and praying for sleep. I want to be happy and positive. It's my baby girl's birthday dinner tomorrow. She is 27, man where have the years gone?!
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1970885 tn?1435860428
I wanted to let you know that not all of us experience depression and anxiety for an extended period. After about 8 or 9 days both had subsided, and had become less intense leading up to day 8. Granted, you will experience waves of anxiety in certain situations as time passes, but, at least for me, it lessens.
I don't know much about RLS - I had it bad and just rode it out.
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Tonight started the RLS which I hate, loathe and despise.  I end up stomping my legs in bed, twitching them around. Does this happen for anyone else? And what do you do for it. I am glad you are feeling so much better after a week, that really gives me alot of hope. I've read that the anxiety and depression can last weeks into months and the thought of that scares me.
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3199802 tn?1362250559
There is no right or wrong way-taper or CT as long as you are serious and ready to commit. And your right probably people do already know. I need to be honest with my husband but I guess I am afraid of looking bad!  He knows a little about it from before and thinks all is good. All I know is I am feeling 85% better than I did last Friday!! No more aches and pains, congestion, gi stuff. The anxiety gets pretty intense and the "wants"that used to be the "mores" are very much there!!  I couldn't have them in front of me cuz Kyle was right on when he said you will come up with every excuse to just go take "one" knowing full well that one isn't gonna do crap!!!
Anyway it doesn't make you a stronger person if you do it CT just do it!!!  I hope you find the strength. My mind is already clearer and it will be only a week tomorrow-very happy :-)
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Hello. This is my first post. I have been lurking for a couple of days now. I am trying to taper off 7.5 Vics. This thread has been very inspirational to me. When Kyle said it was like Christmas when he'd get his full bottle of pills I had to laugh. I used to say the very same thing. I'd have my full bottle fresh from the pharmacy and I'd say "Merry Christmas to me!!" It was the best feeling in the world but one that I knew couldn't last. I've been and off the pills (Vic and Perc) since 2008 but consistently on for the past 8 or so months. I am currently feeling the W/D's...my heart is pounding out of my chest, I feel like I"m getting a cold, I have a fever, I have chills, I feel clammy, I feel soo depressed and moreso hopeless. Soooo very hopeless. Some issues that I have been burying with the pills are surfacing now and I'm scared to death of dealing with it. No G/I issues....yet but I have generic immodium at the ready. I work full time and have kids so I can't go to bed with the "flu". I wish I could.  Also this w/d is a secret.  The addiction has been a secret. I'm sure it's known but it's a pink elephant and I dont want to address it with anyone. I am really scared of the next week or so of w/d. I just want to get past all this, esp the anxiety, heart pounding and the depression.
Oh and Nursey I give you sooo much credit for flushing those pills. I have 9 left and I just cannot do it. I am tapering and will cut them in half but there's no way I have the strength to flush them. So I give you much credit for doing so!!!
Thanks for listening.!
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3199802 tn?1362250559
Hi!  I don't think the dose really has a lot to do with if you are an addict or not. Have you tried to cut down or quit and have failed?  Do you take more than you should? Are you using them for pain or to get high? Do you go into a major panic when that bottle gets low and it isn't near time for a refill??  Are they a main focus of your life?  When I first asked the question CT or taper I was praying everyone was gonna say taper!!! Majority ruled and Kyle said flush them. It is so crazy that was one of the hardest things I have ever done and I have been through some crap. I watched everyone of those suckers go down and felt like I was losing a friend. So I would personally say flush them. Almost a week tomorrow; I can't believe it. Good luck to ya ;-)
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after reading what everyone else posted, I would like to take back my last comment!  you guys are good!  can tell I'm new here, and trying to wean myself after not being able to make-it and fake-it going CT...good advise everyone, and good luck to all you strong people!  I'm a newbie here, but I have a feeling you'll all be seeing a bit more of me...good advice and support...good luck to all...
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1970885 tn?1435860428
Yep - I'm familiar with House.  Liked the show, but liked watching him take the vics the best.  And I know exactly how you feel/felt about the full bottle - it was Christmas. No matter what was going on, I was whole again; nothing could get in my way. But that all faded as the number of pills started to shrink and the panic started setting in about getting more. Tomorrow is the big 7. See you there.
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I just read this entire thread and you are very inspiring! I have a few left and am deciding wheathet or not to just take them or get this over with. I think I am/ was taking a much higher dose than you, but am inspired by you flushing them! I hope to be where you are soon....nice work!
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3199802 tn?1362250559
Sorry for the wah wah feeling sorry for myself!! I guess I can see how easy it to just turn back and it scares the hell out of me!! I felt so good yesterday and then I screwed up an on-line test for a job and all I thought about was those damn pills. I was already anxious, probably wasn't the best time to take the test. I probably need to attend a meeting or two. I just feel so stupid. I also don't have the guts to call my doctor or my pharmacy because I want that back up so bad. Man I used to get so excited when I picked up that full bottle from the pharmacy!! I would be swallowing those things before I got half way out the door. I would joke that I felt like "House" (a show about a doctor addicted to vicodin-in case u haven't seen it). I thought it was so funny but it's so not!!!  Anyway yes today is day 6-woot, woot!  I have church tonight and I e-mailed my pastor the other day and he is there for me too. Thanks for listening to this whiny butt ;-)
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1970885 tn?1435860428
Night is harder because, obviously, you've slogged through another day of detox. Your mind steps in and starts the chatter. As many have said before, you'll have bad days mixed with good. I'd have a wonderful day, figured I could declare myself "clean", and then the next day would be crap. But honestly, the more clean time, the less that happens.
I'm very proud of you; you and your loved ones should be proud of you too.
You've got a tough road ahead - you're about over the physical detox hell - and got the mental stuff to deal with. But I have no doubt you'll manage just fine. On to day 6 - almost done with your first full week clean.
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3199802 tn?1362250559
Night time seems to be so much harder!! I felt so much better today but now I feel like I am losing it again. Crying, pissed off, agitated-I guess I just want a full bottle of Lortab!! I really hate this crap and this damn depression!!!
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2122807 tn?1560619706
ha! you made me cry too. So glad you have thise great attitude, keep it up, you are going to win for sure!!

hugs,
Lily
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3199802 tn?1362250559
Day 5 today and I am not feeling like a caged  lion anymore. I don't feel like a cheerleader or prom queen either (wait a minute-never cared for that group anyway-sorry).   I did take Ativan 1 mg this am
though because my pulse and BP were up. No fog today-it's gonna be a good one!!  ;-)
I truly thank-you all for being here for me.  I want to give back when I can but I need to be a bit more stable to help others!!!
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3199802 tn?1362250559
Thank you so much for the encouragement and your genuineness!!
You have no idea what it means to me!! It made me cry to realize what my family and I have been missing out on. I feel like such a loser but I neec to let go of that talk and move on.  Oh yeah I am ready for that big "O"!!!
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2122807 tn?1560619706
congrats!!! You are staying strong and you will beat this.
I am on day 61 here and feeling great! That anxiety goes away. it really does. I thought it never would, i panicked and thought that I would be a new strange case and the anxiety would never go away and I would be trapped in it for all eternity .....  BUT,,,, it went away, lol, it is the toughest part in my opinion, that feeling of dread, but it wanes, I promise. It al goes away, the sweats, the anxiety, the tiredness, it all goes and you are left with your wonderful life back.  You will smell smells that excite your senses, like rain and flowers, and foods, and you will taste  again, love food, and music sounds so much better, and it gets into your blood, you really can JAM with it, you know? and you laugh again, laugh from your gut, it's wonderful, I can't believe I was born with such great brain chemicals, adjusting everything for me, and I wanted to change those chemicals with pills, ugh, so glad I jumped off, and so glad you are too!
this may be TMI for you, but that first really good orgasm is soemthign to look forward to too, lol, and when you are in WD you find that part of your brain kicks in BIG TIME, lol, you will see what i am talking about.

stay the course, stay hydrated, and when you can't eat, drink Ensure or soemthing comparable liek Booost or Herbalife, and keep posting, you can do this!!

hugs,
Lily
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3199802 tn?1362250559
Well Mr. Kyle I will try not to make a fool out of you!! I am giving it my all but this was a rough day!  I really thought my butt was headed to the ER with a heart attack LOL!!  Thank God for home health cuz I was able to take breaks and schedule appts when I was ready. Just finished my computer work and it's 4 am!  I figured I probably haven't lost too much sleep anyway ;-)
Anyway I can't thank you enough for being there; it has truly kept me from relapsing!!!
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1970885 tn?1435860428
I'm gonna go out on a limb here - in the relatively short period of time that I've been on the forum I've seen a few people come and go, and I have to say that you seem to be one of the strongest and most determined. So, I will predict that you will beat this, hands down. It won't be easy, and you've got a little ways to go, but I know you'll make it.
So now you have to do this or you'll make me look like a fool - and that's what I do best.  
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