Tapering from methadone wafers

[sharonver]

I am asking this question for a friend, is there anyway to taper from methadone wafers?  Has anyone done this?  I am on the liquid so I can taper 1mg at a time, but it is difficult on wafers she has only been able to get to 10mg because of this.

Sharon

[ladymp72]

I am a severe opiate addict that is on the verge of suicide I feel so very helpless can anyone help me?

[suzieneedshelp]

See below.

[southernbelle]

First - tell yourself that suicide is NOT an option.  Do not even consider it.  It's just a cop-out.  It's a permanent solution to a temporary problem.  Sweetie, you are priceless, unique and you belong on this earth!  Don't do anything like that, it's just not worth it.  Honey, everything will be okay, it really will.  I've been there and have thought the same thoughts.  But you can do something about your problem, there are ways of dealing with it.  For right now, just live for each day.  Tell yourself what you need to hear, do what you need to do to get through each day.  Don't think about the past, and don't think about tomorrow.  It's only today that matters.  It will be okay.  You are loved and cared about.  If you need anything at all and want to speak on a more private level --- email me at ***@****.  Love and peace to you.  For right now, watch a movie you really like, or read a book you enjoy --- do anything to occupy your mind for a couple of hours.  You are wonderfully and gloriously made, just take things one day at a time.  LOVE and PEACE to you!

[southernbelle]

I just wanted you to know I was thinking about you.  I know you'll be going cold turkey soon.  Please let us know how you are, and email me if you need anything at all (***@****).  You seem to be such a wonderful person.....you can do it.  I love you, we love you and believe in you.  Just take it one day at a time.  LOVE and PEACE to you!

[DubeMechanic]

Lady

See my reply also under the "addiction" thread below this one.

DM

[liquidgal]

You are a kind & beautiful person.

Liquid.

[Rex1]

Hi and welcome.

These are just feelings you are having - they will pass as long as you realize they are just irrational thoughts.

Tell us more about you. All of us here have been through hell the last couple of months. We are a pretty tight knit group here, and we would like you to join us.

Life can and will be better for you. You are asking for help, so that tells me that you know you can't do it alone. None of us can.

What is your drug of choice?

God's Love to you...

Rex

[bmac]

Hey my friend! I was just wondering how it is going with the taper thing. Email me since this isn't thread related! My email address is ***@****
Peace to ya Lee, bmac

[lifeisbetter]

Hey you, are you out there? How's it going with your husband? Are you taking care of you? Hope all is well.

[suzieneedshelp]

I heard from Thomas and he is ok!
Peace!
Suzie

[suzieneedshelp]

WE have not heard back from you.  How r u?  You are in many of our prayers you know!
Suzie

[ladymp72]

Hi guys I have been floating around the forum for quite somtime and you all amaze me. I love opiates to the tune where I don;t doc shop I just call them in myself acting like a doctor. I would love to say it works great but I have a court case pending from last year you would think that would straiten me up but no I still keep on doin it. I usually call in tussionex or hycodan where each bottle is the equivalent of taking 45 vico's and I drink that down in a single day. The reason I use that is people don't look at you as weird when you are picking up cough syrup as opposed to pain meds. I detoxed in patient over x-mas but once again I have been doing it for the last 4 days I don't know if I will go through the hell again. Will I? Thanks any help would be appreciated.

[WifeofAddict]

Hey There,
It is very kind of you to think of us.  I thank you for that.  I have been reading the posts everyday.  I love it here...it helps me understand addiction and my husbands behavior.  He is doing well.  Our relationship seems to be 100% amazing now!  I can't believe i settled for the way i was treated before...when i didn't know he was on pills.  He is completely different now.  I can't explain it.  Everything has changed with his attitude, manors, cleanliness, everything.  Anyways, i am nervous...because he says he never wants to take a pill again, and that he doesn't crave it.  I find this hard to believe.  Is this possible?  He has been sober for almost 2 months.  He was taking codiene (tylenol 1 and 3) and percocets every once in a while when he could get them.  Another thing is that here in Canada we can get Tylenol 1's without a prescription...which is dangerous.  He would take 27 of those at a time to get the equivalent of tylenol 3!  We are going to the doc to get his liver checked out.  Anyways, he seems to be doing great....too great.  I am wondering if he is just saying he doesn't crave them to please me or make me less anxious?  Is it possible to be rid of them and not WANT to take them?  I thought with addiction it is a constant battle to fight the demons in your head that tell you to take just one.  How are you doing anyways?  How often do you go to NA meetings?  
Thanks for caring
Catherine

[ladymp72]

I thought I read somewhere that you are in GA is that true if so I am as well.

[kebby]

Hi friend, I was worried about you all night, and I too prayed for you. We all have this addiction demon, and know how you are feeling. It can be controlled though. Stick around here and find out how, just by reading each new post. I am a mother of three little kids, and I am in Ga., the Greater Atlanta Area. You are worthy, and yes this is a terrible disease, but unlike some others, it is controllable! Love and peace to you! Kebby

[ladymp72]

Thanks for the support, I am also in GA Monroe to be exact if you look under the addiction thread i posted a more up to date thing of what is going on on my life I alsi have 3 children and am a single mom.

[kebby]

Glad your still here! E-mail me at ***@**** Keb

[sharonver]

No one answered my question on meth wafer detox. Has anyone out there ever been able to do this? I know it is a lot easier to taper with liquid meth. but there has to be a way to do it with the wafer form.

Lady- We all welcome you to the forum,we will be there if you need us. We have all had times in our lives when everything seems hopeless, make sure you have a good support system.  It helps talking to someone about it.

Sharon

[percsnomas]

Just for clarification; 27 Tylenol # 1's = 216 mg of codeine (8mg per tab; Ty#2=15mg, Ty#3=30mg, Ty#4=60mg) OR about 7 and 1/4 Tylenol # 3's!!
I also reside in Canada, and have bought Tyl # 1's(as you said w/o a Rx) many times.
Did you say 27 tabs at one time???

[WifeofAddict]

WHOA!
I don't understand all that mg talk.  Sorry.  All i know is that he said he would take 27 Tylenol 1's if he couldn't get T3's.  So whatever that means in Mg i don't know.  He did take a lot of pills at one time.  He says now that he wanted to kill himself...but didn't know it at the time.  Right now we are dealing with his issues.  They all stem from childhood.  Anyways, hope this answers your question.  Hahahaha.  
Take care
Catherine

[lifeisbetter]

Sorry I don't know anything about methadone. Since you said it s awafer acan she breal it in 5 pieaces to equal 1 mg each?

[lifeisbetter]

Lady please call me at the number Kebby gave you. I'll be there until 6:00 tonight. If you want to talk later call Kebby or email her and sh'll give you my cell. Take care of yourself read my post to you under addiction I was there once to.

Sharonver,
     I have no idea what happened to my last post to you it got all scrambled. I asked whether she could break the wafer in 5 pieces to equal 1 mg each. Sorry about that. You caould always call a Walgreens or Eckerd and ask the pharmacist there. They can tell you if the wafers can be broken.

[mogman]

crush the wafer and mix to assure uniformity of the powder. divide like you were making individual mounds of coke (Duh!) mix in fruitjuice. enjoy! the last 5 mg is a *****...mostly psychological than physical. clinics will not break a 10 tablet into 2 5's then again into 2.5's so its 5 to zero....hope this helps-mog

[Rex1]

I have been told "chick" is now inappropriate, "ma'me" is too old sounding and "gal" is sexist.

You girls/gals/ladies/chicks/women/babes/females really do need an equivalent of the term "guy".

Rex

[lifeisbetter]

That's great news! I absolutely think he CAN feel good right now. When you first get clean people in the 12 step meetings refer to this great mood as a "pink cloud". That's when everything looks beautiful and it just feels so great to be clean and free from the chains of addiction. I do understand your concern though.
The best thing you can do is first take care of yourself, find someone who's been through the same thing with their spouse, and second continue to encourage him.  You can tell him not to feel afraid to talk with you because, after all, you married for better or worse and you remain totally commited to that vow. It
is kind of hard to talk to your spouse about your cravings and worries, so don't think for a minute that he's trying to exclude you, he may feel humiliated about his lack of control in this one area of his life, or he may really be trying to protect you from worry. Both seem to me to be healthy responses. Its good for him to be humble. It means he is starting to feel his emotions again after being numb from pills so long. If he's doing it to protect you, another good sign because his desire to be the man of the house again may mean that his self esteem may be coming back a little. Either way, just enjoy your husband right now and remember you can not control his desire to use. You can make yourself crazy worying about all the "what if's". Things will happen when they are supposed to.
Good to hear from ya!

[Rex1]

Thanks for the supportive words, bud.

Glad you are here - it life people up whether you realize this or not...

Rex

[sharonver]

Thanks guys...  I am sure this info will be helpful to her.

You reading this, Pillhell?!

Sharon

[lifeisbetter]

Don't you mean Buddette? :0)

[sharonver]

How about "supreme being" ?!  LOL

Sharon

[Rex1]

Hey! You know my wife!!? ;-)

Rex

[suzieneedshelp]

I like Goddess...lol
Suzie

[TimG14]

I ws in the same boat you are in when I was hooked on opiates. I was selling everything I had just to get dope so I would feel "normal" and not get dope sick. I found the answer in methadone. I know methadone is not everyones cup of tea, but it was a Godsend for me! I went back to college and got my Paralegal degree. I was also a very bad alcoholic before starting methadone. I was in that small percentage of people that methadone totally takes away the craving and desire from alcohol. Thank God!! I am now clean and sober for 6 years this January 9th and I am doing great!! Please for Gods sake talk to someone before doing something drastic. Believe me, if I can get clean and sober ANYONE can!!
                             God Bless & Peace Out..Tim G

[millie_b]

I have been trying to get in touch with you. I read what you put over at WD.  If you would like to, e mail me @  amazing_yeti***@****.  We are in the same boat.  
Take care,  Millie

[BlackHeartedWolf]

Wow- I am so glad that I am on the liquid! The wafers sound like a nightmare for people who are tapering! We only have the liquid where I live... I agree with earlier posts, that she could grind it up and section it... though playing with your drugs can be a trigger.... not good!!!

[oxydetox pete]

ya I live in the great white north to where t-1s are OTC, but that amount of acetominephan will kill you or your liver, maybe not today but some day youll be looking for a liver. My wife works in a hospital, and shes seen it. If you know how you can extract the codiene only tried it a couple time with about 8 and it gave me a gut ache not a buzz.