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Tapering off duragesic??

I've posted here before and gotten some wonderful input.  I'm currently on the 25 mcg. patch with about 2-3 vic 5mg for BT pain. I want to wean off but tried once for 5 days and couldn't take the withdrawals.  If  anyone has done this before and has a method that might ease the discomfort,  I'm really desparate.  The stuff frightens me!!  
Thank you.    Linda
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Ok I am on Fentanyl 175mcg's & have just ran into a tricky situation. My last patch got thiefed. What I had to taper to was Oxycodone 5mg and honestly?, I've taken 40 of those lil buggers in 3 days but I feel fine soo it CAN be DONE ...
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This is a thread from 2003 you should repost your question on the main page so it does not get overlooked..  Click 'BACK TO FORUM" below then click Post a new question..
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fentanyl 75 for 4 months.  How do I get off them?
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Hey you, great novel! (I am kidding..Jesus!) Were you in as great mood or what?  OK I am out of here, the wrath awaits!
            I'm a Troublemaker!  Bmac

Peazy, you better watch yourself! I mean it!
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Good morning, you 4 stringed anti-yankee!

Why are you up right now? If I were on YOUR meds, I'd be sound asleep by now..... I just finished putting my classical guitar stuff to CD, so E-mail me, and I can get your address again, and send y'all a copy!

I'll talk at ya later!

Jess

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I am getting ready to go to the hospital to have my pain doc play around in my back and shoulder while I sleep. I guess your email address would be the same. I am thinking anyway, if I don't answer in ten minutes send one to me! Bill
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There is NO geographical cure for drug addiction. You need some kind of a program to help you formulate a plan for getting through those kinds of situations ... which is probably avoiding them altogether at first. But trust me on this one ... there are drugs in California.
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Hey Stranger, hope all is well for you. Haven't heard from ya in a while so I just wanted to say hi.HI!!!
Jim
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I just saw your post to MrM & I think I know what he's talking about.  I have searched hither & yon, including launching myself in, via google & in every case, there is a list of that initial question & the Doc's reply.  NO other replies by forum members.

In all my searching I have *never* found anything more & if there are archives there, well, color me pink!  

I don't think we can go back to any threads to re-read msgs & that includes the ones that have just dropped off the bottom here.  They go bye-bye!!!!

So, YOU, how the heck are ya?  I must say you're sounding positively zesty & your msg to me & a bunch others completely cracked me up!  

Hey, doll, no need to drag my sorry ass back here.  I've quite missed MH but after a wk. of not visiting, a certain smelly, ugly barnyard animal so turned my stomach I had to back away.  Having just gone thru that with a certain female member here really turned me off MH, albeit temporarily.  With her, I've got ALL the proof to not only have her banned for the 6th time but to ensure she never returns.  With expillNOT.ha I launched my own salvo after I'd told everyone to ignore him. (Moi? :-) He sent quite a few back to "goaT" me but NFW!  I think what pissed him off the most was my utter confidence in the fact that my pinky was larger than his fully erect jackhammer he used to "jack" off with in front of the computer.

Peazy - Pls Think of a game plan because he's supposed to be back on the 20th!!  And I'll bet tomorow's underwear, he will be back.  IMO, he does NOT belong here but then I am kind of a *****!  But to me, you shouldn't have to ask a 55 y/o to behave like an adult.  He apologizes..my question is, why the hell did you do it in the 1st place?  

I remember as a kid when I'd do something REALLY bad (like light the basement on fire as a non-applicable example) I'd say to Dad.  "I'm sorry, I'm sorry...over & over.  Finally he'd interrupt & say, "Don't say you're sorrry, just don't do it."  I've always remembered that because so often ppl apologize by rote, often to be excused for the most heathen behavior.  Sorry is supposed to make everything right & cancel out the wrongdoing.  Heavens, more often than not, we all must apologize & take responsibility but I keep thinking of this goatuphisa-s & I can't fathom a single reason on this earth, barring narcissism, as to why he would have literally no regard for all other forum members, our space constraints & Cindy & Phil.  

I wonder if Cindy would give us maybe 2 extra threads so we could go back to where we were before.  We still don't have anywhere near the board space as we had.  

I do like DA, mostly because we have such a tight-knit F grp, well over a doz now & *everyone* is making slow but sure progress. And Lisabet joins us on a reg. basis as well!  But medhelp is still my fave.  Gee, do you think it's safe to come home again?  Mizz Psycho is still aboard.

Well, Mlle, great to hear you're still kicking.  Keep out of trouble and keep in touch!

Love,
Judes

Judes
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Try what again?
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How long will that much Methodone stay in your system? My mom said 3 days but she was on it for so long and took a lot more. I guess I have no choice but to wait for her call. Over 3 days she took about 6 tablespoons How much in mgs is that? Thanks TER
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It is the active narcotic, obviously.  Norco does come in other strengths, of course.  The drawing factor is the lower acetaminophen.
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Thanks, again, Mike!
H.
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No problemo!
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Jeepers?
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Thank you sooo much for the quick replys!! Maybe I should clear up the fact that my older kids live on thier own and have spouses. I spoke with my older kids about the drug problem so they know why I would be moving. I will be located around the Simi Valley area. We don't know anyone there. I am taking my 7 year old away from all family. We told her it will be for the summer only..hoping she will make friends and want to stay. To the person living in California (I'm sorry I did not get your name before writing this post)can I email you and ask a few questions about living in the LA area? My email is ***@**** I hope you all get out of this terrible dream.
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Everyone is bitchin and moanin about all the threads closing. Is there anyone who could address this issue with the managment. I would but God knows I don't need to put my name in front of Cindy with the mouth I have, Jezzz!
Anyway youz guyz, just friggin post where there are open threads. It doean't matter if you break a thread, it's there for us anyway! So peace and love and all that really mushy stuff and I hope all you people are warm and fuzzy on the inside, I am Groovy!        residenttroublemaker! Bmac
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hey there , glad to see ya posting.
when it comes to your life and staying clean.
do what ever you can to make it easier to stay
clean and get your life back
as we stay clean and stop abuseing  drugs , we find
that there is a life full of beauty and happiness
just waiting for us to reach out and take it back.
we al hope for the best for you and yours ,
keep us posted and stay in touch no matter where
you go, or what you do.

peace!!!!!!!! hiippy
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The Thomas recipe begins with an important disclaimer that THomas has on it.  It is regarding the fact that he is not a Doctor and how he created the recipe.  Plz...realize that this is important that anyone be aware of this disclaimer. It is best if it is always included in the posting of the recipe.  Thanks!
Thomas is awesome and very knowledgeable from his experiences.
Love,
Suzie
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Suz,

Long time no talk to. Can you email me ***@****.
I am glad to hear you are doing so well. More happy and suprised to see you are trying to help so many others while you are still going through so much.
It is nice to see you posting again.
Or can you leave your email here again. I remember it changed.
Chezz
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I want to comment on the search feature of med help.  The archives that one searches through contains the original questions that people ask and the doctor's answers.  That is it.  The entire thread is not in the archives....just the question and answer.
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Hey Sailor!  I'm here, albeit recalcitrant in my reply to you of last week but I was busy & re-injured my D3, D4, putting all the muscles in a spasm.  All I could do until about an hr, ago was hug myself with my r. arm & yelp at odd moments. Thank goodness I'm a writer as I can get away with such untoward behavior!

My GP, who is not just a phenomenal doctor, 48, smart, caring, and a big picture man, also happens to know *everything* about my most audancious drug related behavior.  I told him EVERYTHING! He keeps a tight rein on me & since he also happens to look like a movie star, I comply!

The pain was so bad today, he couldn't even touch my back/neck & spine area. (Tho he coulda!  Really!) Of course my yelping had to have been due to the pain.  Obviously....

It last flared up in Nov. & after 4-5 days on morphine  whistlin' Dixie, the pain was gone.  I didn't even take enough s per his directions (HULLO?) & then took the 45 or so back to his office.  Christ, I feel like such an underachiever just saying that!

Today he gave me 10 mg. fast acting morphine sulfate & hola!  I'm stoned out of my tree & can barely type but the pain is gone.  My only complaints are the nausea & weird feeling & that I'm to take 2 (?!) every 6 hrs.  I don't think so!  

My DOC is Fiorinal which is why I'm often over at DA.  We blew out their bandwith here & yes, we do talk a lot.  But I'll bet a great many ppl here would feel a similiar ambivalence about F, unless I invite you to start in my major motion picture entitled, "Beach Blanket Butalbital."  Hey, we can negotiate.  

I was very addicted to codeine for a about a yr., quit Jan 20, suffered more from 6-8 wks. of rebounds than all the rest of it, barring the first delightful 5 days.  Yes, I've had a few since but I'm kind of blah about it.  Yet F....oh my love!!!!!

I expect the easy answer, meaning it's true, is we all have diff. bio-chemistry.  I remember I had 2 kitties & we traveled a lot.  I was in search of myself but every time I found "her", I'd bellow, "Now that I've found you, GET LOST!"  But Atom Ant who was a Cat became virtually comatose from 2.5 mg. valium, 1/2 of what the vet said he needed for his size.  Petite Lucy became completely ballistic & actually became psychotic on 2.5.  Somewhere btwn hither & yon, I called the vet & he told me to give her more in 1/2's & she could have up to 2.  She only got worse & trying to cram those down her throat in a psychotic state was an exercise I could have quite down w/out.  

I wonder if that type of differential might help explain why people "just like us" can take it or leave it when we'd give up our training brassiere for just one F.  Dunno, it's just a thought.  Any ideas, gang?

How are ya, Kurt?  Yes, indeed to Engl. Lit tho I must say, I fell completely in love with French.  Camus, Malraux, Celine, Sartre, Coleete, de Beauvoir, Hugo, Balzac & many others. Oh and Beckett!  Yeah, yeah, he was born in Dublin but spent most of his life in Paris & 20 yrs. after his arrival was writing everything in his adopted language.  I confess after a semester (1/4) on the existentialists, well, the world was making (bloody awful) sense to me but I got it!! :-) Not that I wanted it!

I think one of the finest books I've ever read is Man's Fate by Andre Malraux.  It walks you to the precipice of death, makes you shiver & THINK.  I had nightmares for weeks.  It's also extraordinarily well written, a "war" story, has powerful characterization & is a MUST read.  

Sorry, folks! I was just about to launch into Celine, give a snoozing nod to Flaubert's Mme Bovary but I won't!  I guess I sort of like books & off I went & hey, I'm stoned!!!  I can't even feel the pain....sigh!

Kurt, ca va monsieur?  Do tell me what's new.  I forgot to tell you earlier that the novella you composed on this brd should be the intro to your book.  It *is* a soul shaker.  It *was* long & normally I skim thru such a post but with your missive, I read it thru several times.

If that's any indication of your style, you damn well better have a book underway.  Espec. since you already have the Prologue ritten.

Write on & write me back when you're so inclined!

Best,

Judes




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You lost me, Doll........:-)   Try 'er again.
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First off, I would like to say what a big help this forum has been for me. I've been reading for the past week and a half. Thanks to y'all who contribute! I know people like me are comforted to know that they're not alone.

percsnomas,
You responded to a question/comment that I put on yesterday. You said that maybe my pain was "feeding the addiction" pain. What is that? Like rebound pain? I was also wondering how long, if that's the case, the "pain/w/d" will last?

My back problems are degenerative disk disease & osteoarthritis.
I had a herniated disk at L5-S1 and had a fusion last Oct. Two weeks after my surgery, I started taking Buprenex for pain/w/d, so this time is different. (Stayed on it for four months till the pain came back and started on percs again.)  I had another MRI done a couple weeks ago and it showed two bulging disks right above the fusion site. This COULD be causing the pain, but it could also be psychosomatic. I don't want to be on narcotics anymore, but on the other hand, I don't want to suffer either. I don't think that I could take them responsibly, but was wondering if there was anyone in my shoes who has experienced the same thing. Any input would help.  Thanks! Laur
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