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1304379 tn?1376567437

Tell me not to fill it! I need you all!

So, here's my story. I am a pain management patient as of now. I am on a hellish rollarcoaster I can't see to get off. After my surgeries, my tolerance went through the roof! At one point I got suboxone to try to stop, but it ended up becoming a crutch for me to abuse my oxycodone! I would go through 2 weeks worth of meds in about 3 days (averaging 100+mg) and then go back on subs until my next refill. I could take 30-45 mg of instant release oxy per dose and feel amazing.

Well, now I am a pain management patient as of 2 weeks ago. They drug test at every visit. I am now out of subs. I kept telling myself with every oxy refill that I would use it only to taper or to save for extreme pain, and I would still take them out of control every time.

I am losing myself. I am ready for this to end. It has to. So, I have 2mgs of sub left on my pocket and 5mg of oxy I saved so I would pee oxy at my next drug test. I learned how to take the doses so my tests would show up the way I wanted them to. I know if I reful this oxy it will be gone in a few days, and I will be right back where I started.

Someone please tell me what to expect from a sort-of cold turkey from 100 mg of oxy. Can I do this? I know I can do this, but I need to know when I will start seeing the light. I am going to take this last 2mg of sub and let this run its course.

What I am afraid of is my appointment on Thursday. I am guessing I will be in brutal withdrawals. How can I make myself say good-bye to these pain management appointments and refills and just get though this?

Thank you in advance!
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1035252 tn?1427227833
Hi there,

I'm glad you came here...there are some amazing people.

First..please..please...do not cold turkey. i beg of you. At 100mg of oxy a day, you could lose the baby by the time you feel "too sick" and go to the ER.

I'm not trying to scare you, I'm serious. I'm the Community leader over in the Pregnancy 18-34 forum here on MedHelp and I have helped many women through the tapering/weaning process...but out of dozens of women I've helped, only one or two have done cold turkey and it was NEVER under the advice of their doctor..it's just too dangerous, especially the dose you are at.

I would call the pain management doctor in the morning and tell them you want off. tell them you must come in tomorrow, and you must get off. make up a reason if you have to - you're scared it will affect the baby...you don't care about the pain anymore, you're just too afraid....

but whatever you tell them, get in, and get on a tapering schedule.

Please. this is no longer about taking your life back, although that's the goal, this is about doing it while not endangering your baby...cold turkey from high doses of narcotics can cause fetal seizures or miscarriages.

Please, please...get another OB at another office, talk to your pain management doctor, or go to the ER...don't just cold turkey.

To be perfectly honest, you may need to stay on the meds for another couple weeks. the minimum viability for a fetus is 24-26 weeks...and if you go into labor from the trauma of detox before that or during the "danger stage" (before baby has reached extra-utero viability)...you could go into labor and have a stillbirth or at best a baby who ends up in the NICU for a long time.

Please...I really am not trying to scare you but I need to impress upon you the urgency of your situation. 100mg of oxy a day is big....too big to just jump off of during pregnancy. Your OB is crazy...I've had women on much lower doses warned not to quit cold turkey, so I'm beyond shocked that the OB would recommend cold turkey. he probably just doesn't want to deal with the liability issues of addiction...rotten of him, really.

message me if you feel like it, OK? And do what you have to...in the end, it's your life and your decision, and we'll be here with you through it all...but you have more to consider than just yourself and you want to be as safe as possible so please take all the care you can.

*hugs* and congrats on the pregnancy....hopefully once this situation is resolved you'll consider coming over to the Pregnancy 18-34 forum and sharing the rest of your pregnancy with us and getting some awesome support.

-Ashe
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I am in no position to judge anyone after some of the crazy things I have done.  Just have to trust me on that.  There's not enough room on all of medhelp for me to write about how much of a dip**** I've been over the years!

Definitely need to monitor how you're feeling, ok?  Keep hubby close.  So, what are you doing right now, pill wise??  Have any?  Taken any today?  Catch me up so I can try to help you.  And so everyone else can too!  

We are all just here to be supportive.  No one is ANYONE'S judge!
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1304379 tn?1376567437
I called the OB and got the same frickin doctor!! I had a talk with my husband about this, and we decided that if I feel my WD's are getting too uncomfortable I will go to the ER and refuse to leave until they either admit me, or tell me how to taper with him in the room and having him give me the pills.

I went to one OB when I was 5 weeks along, which was right after a major surgery. She had me convinced the surgery probably put the baby under so much stress that I would miscarry. I went along this pregnancy kind of in a haze, waiting for it to happen. Well, I woke up! This baby is healthy and it still has a great chance of being born without addiction if I get this under control NOW! I have more than half my pregnancy left, and I will do everything in my power to change things. I feel like he was a little angel sent to save my life.

Thanks for not being judgemental. I will let you know how the next few days treat me. I spent most of today crying my eyes out because it seems nobody wants to help. I will do whatever it takes at this point.

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I didn't know you are pregnant.  You definitely have to be tapered off of them.  You aren't just using pain management to deal with pain.  You're abusing pills and taking them all in a few days.  There is a big difference when it comes to pregnancy and tapering and CT.  I can't believe she told you that you can cold turkey from that amount of pills.  Uggghhhhh!  That is really dangerous.  If you were only taking a regular amount you would even need to be tapered.  I can't imagine you being told that after you were honest!  

Can you talk to another doc?  Maybe a different OB?  I'm sorry!  Try to hang in there!  I just don't know what to tell you.
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Help!  I am on day 5 of a detox from lortabs. I was taking 3 to 5 a day. I was able to taper off. But last night I started with the horrible leg aches. Again today they ate HORRIBLE. I have tried Alene Motrin and tylenol. Is this normal or could something  else be going on?  I don't have the option of getting bezos.  Don't really want to do that any way.  I'm taking Melissa a natural combination of suppllements for anxiety and sleep
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1304379 tn?1376567437
The sad thing is, is that yes I am. My doctors and pain management know this, but they also know my pain levels causing labor. I came clean with my OB the other day. I told her EVERYTHING I told you! It was a surprise pregnancy. One of the surgeries and antibiotics messed up my birth control. So, after telling my OB this, she told me it would be perfectly fine to CT. Everything I read tells me differently. I am scared to death, but feel I have backed myself into a corner. My baby is perfect right now, but I refuse to give birth to an addicted child. I just dont understand how they seem this won't pose any risk to my child, which is why I didn't even mention it.
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I just saw you are pregnant ? I take back what I said about the Dr. you need to come forward and speak to them honestly about your situation so you can get some help.. a ct could put your babe at risk. Do you have someone you can turn to for support to dole out your meds at a regular schedule ? I feel for you and I wish I had more to offer but you need to come clean with your Dr.'s and let them no you have no control over your meds.. I will be sending a prayer for you and yours..
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Hi DarkEyedCreature.. That is the problem. the pills will take your life at the amount you are consuming in a few days it could lead to a od we get a buildup our liver can not process it nor our system flush it fast enough. I have never got into pain management as I knew what the outcome would be I would fail the test miserably for like you I have no control. I agree about flushing the last and cutting the sub for a lil relief for the wd and just get it over.. you would be taking back what you are freely giving away Your life. Call and cancel the refill call the Dr. and tell them you have changed your mind that pain mang. is not fort you. You can do this You need to do this for you are fighting for your life for your family's life.. I wish you the very best. lesa
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1304379 tn?1376567437
Thank you! I have been sitting here with this oxy in my hand just looking at it. It's a pill. A PILL! This little pill has controlled my life. When I have them, life is warm and wonderful, but when the bottle draws near, the panic sets in -- this drug has turned me into someone else. I'm just looking at this pill, feeling all the things it made me do and made me feel. I know if I refill I won't use the drugs right. I know I will be in pain from my surgeries and withdrawal. I know caring for my children will be rough. I feel these pills will take my life if I don't do something.
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Flush the oxy you have left!  Then you have no choice, right?  Pain med appt won't be a go without that pill, since you won't pass the test??  

Look.....basically you have to get your mind made up, and the rest is just pretty much just WDs and then aftercare.  That's all that stands between you and a happy life, free of pills!  It's so much easier than we make it.

Get rid of that pill, and don't look back! : )
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