Tobacco?

[Crispy]

Does tobacco hender recovery efforts?

[bobby139]

I hope not because i smoke. I havn't heard that it dose but not sure.
bobby

[flmagi]

Definately. If your trying to recover from lung cancer.

Addiction recovery...I don't know, I smoke and I don't think so.  I know I couldn't quit both at the same time.

[worried878]

Nicotine sits on more receptor sites than narcotics or alcohol...4 different receptors so that is why it is so addicting and hard to quit...it stimulates relaxation receptors and the stimulant receptors at the same time....i am addicted to the nicotine mints and i see why they have been so hard to quit....so if u r talking about getting your neurotransmitters and receptor sites clean and functioning in a healthy way...then yes...it is hindering it...

[Crispy]

well the reason i ask is because my rehab counsler and dr. are pushing me to try and quit smoking. I told them to **** off because when i was in w.ds i wouldnt even romance the notion. But now im a little better im toying with it. I was using the nicotine mints also and quit smoking for like 5 months but after 2 months i was back on pills to ease the cravings of nicotine i was still getting.

[worried878]

I am trying to taper off of nicotine mints myself and it sux!   it is harder for me that the pills...so i know it is not good for me if it controls me so much...just cant be

[SableZen]

I was just reading... clinical treatment for nicotine addiction has a lower success rate than cocaine, heroin, amphetamines... and alcohol. The alcohol part is interesting because part of the argument was that nicotine is just easier to get and more socially acceptable than narcotics, hence relapse rate is higher. But there's nothing difficult about getting alcohol and in recent years, alcohol consumption has become more socially acceptable than smoking or dipping... so that kind of blew that theory out of the water.

It's just exactly what worried pointed out above, it nicotine just has an affinity for and builds up tolerance on a wide range of the same receptors that narcotics do - which surprise, surprise - are in the same parts of the brain that survival behaviors are regulated.

Just instead of having the overall felt effect of distorting endorphin regulated feelings and behavior (although it does that too especially when not present in sufficient supply), it impacts the control and release of adrenaline actively when consumed.

All this **** we put in our bodies is fascinating in it's effects no?

[bubbaganoosh]

any one in Wd i think maybe smoking should be last, it would send me over the edge tapering from both.

[SableZen]

Oh and some more interesting trivia for the thought that smoking marijuana will help lessen desire and consumption for something you are addicted to:

People smoking marijuana in blind testing were shown to double to quadruple the amount of cigarettes they concurrently smoked while high on marijuana as opposed to what they normally smoked on average...

My personal experience with that matches up. When I smoked pot, I could (and would) chain-smoke and not feel sick... something I normally couldn't and wouldn't do.

[SableZen]

I quit smoking cigarettes about 2 months after I quit oxycodone... I was just tired of being addicted to **** I guess. And smoking had lost it's enjoyment factor along with a lot of other things post-acute withdrawal... so I used that in my favor.

What's really messed up though? I dreaded and fretted over quitting smoking more than I did oxycodone. But in the end, withdrawal from nicotine was actually fairly anti-climatic for what I was expecting.

[worried878]

Yes...i am a bit over 3 months clean and time for me to poonder the nicotine thing...no way i woulda done both at the same time...but the time is here for me to deal with the nicotine....thanks for sharing ur experience with quitting nicotine sable

[bubbaganoosh]

hi there true i know i wonder if we make it bigger in our heads then it is really, to me both are pretty bad wd in my own head, but im going to tackle methadone first then smoking, would be nice to be free from both, but easy does it huh... and well the prices of ciggies are getting bad soon we will be spending 20k a year on  them arggggggggg

[NautyOne]

I would just take your time.  Give yourself as much time as you need to get things in order, it may take a year before you may even try to quit.  Sounds bad ...I know, but you can even taper ciggys........One thing at a time....slowly.  Just my opinion.

Luv,
Nauty...........