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Went to ER Friday, BAD Result
I went to the ER Friday night because after juggling my problem for years and everything associated with my fathers sudden death almost 4 months ago, I finally reached my breaking point. He gave me some hydroxyzine and asked me to be admitted because of acetaminophen levels. I passed because even though he was 100% correct, I can't leave my mother alone in the home and I've been through this before.
Now I asked him, due to the fact that Im going to be going through withdrawls over the following week (leading up to the hellish day 2 today), I asked him if he'd sign my leave of absence paperwork. He signed everything, then selected all the options which wouldn't grant me a single day off. I dropped it off at work and my HR manager called me up with a "What the Hell?" kind of attitude, making me feel foolish.
I made an appointment with my primary and now I have to fess up to him and pray that he'll give me the leave of absence, as I am sinking and sinking and you guessed it, have no sick time left.
it seems that everyone who wants to help can't, and everyone who can help, won't. Any suggestions?
Now I asked him, due to the fact that Im going to be going through withdrawls over the following week (leading up to the hellish day 2 today), I asked him if he'd sign my leave of absence paperwork. He signed everything, then selected all the options which wouldn't grant me a single day off. I dropped it off at work and my HR manager called me up with a "What the Hell?" kind of attitude, making me feel foolish.
I made an appointment with my primary and now I have to fess up to him and pray that he'll give me the leave of absence, as I am sinking and sinking and you guessed it, have no sick time left.
it seems that everyone who wants to help can't, and everyone who can help, won't. Any suggestions?
I'm nott sure what kind of work you do. Is it a white collar job or blue collare job. The good thing is you mentioned you had insurance, hopefully when you sat done and filled out you paper work you asked for both short term and long term disability coverage. Which means after you have exhausted all you sick days and vacation days. You need to sit down with human resources and tell then you are requesting short term disability benefits. Short term term insurance pays abourt 50% of your wages before taxes, long term disability pays 75% of your wages as long as you meet the guidlines. Chemicaly depedency alone would not qualify you. You would have to be dual diagosed, which most of us are. The dual diagnosis could be depression, bipolar decease. PTSD, to mention just a few. I've have been through this very same situation myself, I did not except the approval of my Doctor. What I did was pulled out my insurace provider manual, and I selected the best in patient programs they had. Which happened to be in Vermont. I called then they did an intake on the phone. They said they needed to check my heath insurance. Well they called me back in less than 30 minutes and said to pack my bags that a driver would be there to pick me up in 2.5 hrs as I lived in Connecticut at the time. I asked them about my job being secure. They told me my employer could not fire me or lay me off. They have to Give an employee at least once chance to seek treatment.
They handled every thing for me they called my employer and notified them I was inpatient at a Hospital that treats dual diagnosis problems. All other information could not be provided to anyone without a signed HIPPA form. If your employer request it don't sign it. Well I stayed for 30 days, I went in with a 70 per day Norco habit. They made me give a u/a testing positive for opiates. I met with my treatment team which included an M.D.. They dosed me with 35 mg of methadone every 12 hours as well as medications for anxiety, While I was at the retreat I was diagnosed with PTSD from being raised by an abusive alcoholic father. When I was discharged It was recommended I take off 1 year from work, But like a fool I returned after 8 months due to pressure form my family telling me ther was nothing wrong with me. But I wasn't ready to return to work because it wasn't soon after my return I started craving, They had me flying to Kansas City twice a week. I remembered when it happened I was sitting at a romm at the Double tree, When it Hit me I cant do this presentation the nexy day unless I had something, So I jumped in my rental car found the nearest hospital. Exlpained to the er doc I hear on business and would not be able to see my regular dentist until I returned, When he found out I was in the Healthcare Field. He prescribed #45, lorcet10 with a refill to boot, The next day I was 100% on my game. But within 4 months I was I mess again. My boss told me I could eithier resign or be fired, So I resigned and spent my severance pay and my 401k package over the next couple of years. My other half who made twice the money I was making did not see it as a problem as long as I promised to devote my free time to working on my sobriety. We would stat together no matter what. Three months latter he was killed in the World Trade Center bombings. I spent another 6 months citing in a home in Lithchfied county using, isolating, and making weekly trips to nyc which was only 35 minutes from the house. I'd buy 2 bricks for the week. I would only venture out at night, Then one evening a childhood friend called me and asked me how I was doing, It was like God had sent him that night. We set up a date for me to move to Flodida. I've been up and down in terms of staying clean, Of coarse he never mentioned to me he was an alcoholic, But he only drinks at home. He also takes 100/ 7.5 percocet and 120 7.5 lortab plus I get 120. 7.5 lortab every month. Now it has come to the point that he wants me to give him 30/8mg suboxone. I should be taking 1 every 6 hrs that would be 4 per day. I feel like he is taking advantage of me regarding my medications. It could be anything xanax if i get 90 he wants 45. This week I have been sick and my doctor ordered me antibiotics and a nebulizer for at home use, Need I say more, He's already got half the antibitics. and will use my nebulizer for than I do. But get this his Doctor is 1 mile from the house. My docs are in tampa whic is about 45 minutes each way. But I refuse to give up my present doctors for a country bunpkin or quaks here in the area I call home. Please forgive for rambling but I had to get this out and get some feedback, SlyJim. Buddy there is no way your company can fire you and if they have by the time you read my rather lenghly reply, Please let me know how you stand. You qualify for legal aid, I'd be happy to help you if need, Sounds like you might need it.
GOOD LUCK, AND DO NOT GIVE UP ----NOAH
They handled every thing for me they called my employer and notified them I was inpatient at a Hospital that treats dual diagnosis problems. All other information could not be provided to anyone without a signed HIPPA form. If your employer request it don't sign it. Well I stayed for 30 days, I went in with a 70 per day Norco habit. They made me give a u/a testing positive for opiates. I met with my treatment team which included an M.D.. They dosed me with 35 mg of methadone every 12 hours as well as medications for anxiety, While I was at the retreat I was diagnosed with PTSD from being raised by an abusive alcoholic father. When I was discharged It was recommended I take off 1 year from work, But like a fool I returned after 8 months due to pressure form my family telling me ther was nothing wrong with me. But I wasn't ready to return to work because it wasn't soon after my return I started craving, They had me flying to Kansas City twice a week. I remembered when it happened I was sitting at a romm at the Double tree, When it Hit me I cant do this presentation the nexy day unless I had something, So I jumped in my rental car found the nearest hospital. Exlpained to the er doc I hear on business and would not be able to see my regular dentist until I returned, When he found out I was in the Healthcare Field. He prescribed #45, lorcet10 with a refill to boot, The next day I was 100% on my game. But within 4 months I was I mess again. My boss told me I could eithier resign or be fired, So I resigned and spent my severance pay and my 401k package over the next couple of years. My other half who made twice the money I was making did not see it as a problem as long as I promised to devote my free time to working on my sobriety. We would stat together no matter what. Three months latter he was killed in the World Trade Center bombings. I spent another 6 months citing in a home in Lithchfied county using, isolating, and making weekly trips to nyc which was only 35 minutes from the house. I'd buy 2 bricks for the week. I would only venture out at night, Then one evening a childhood friend called me and asked me how I was doing, It was like God had sent him that night. We set up a date for me to move to Flodida. I've been up and down in terms of staying clean, Of coarse he never mentioned to me he was an alcoholic, But he only drinks at home. He also takes 100/ 7.5 percocet and 120 7.5 lortab plus I get 120. 7.5 lortab every month. Now it has come to the point that he wants me to give him 30/8mg suboxone. I should be taking 1 every 6 hrs that would be 4 per day. I feel like he is taking advantage of me regarding my medications. It could be anything xanax if i get 90 he wants 45. This week I have been sick and my doctor ordered me antibiotics and a nebulizer for at home use, Need I say more, He's already got half the antibitics. and will use my nebulizer for than I do. But get this his Doctor is 1 mile from the house. My docs are in tampa whic is about 45 minutes each way. But I refuse to give up my present doctors for a country bunpkin or quaks here in the area I call home. Please forgive for rambling but I had to get this out and get some feedback, SlyJim. Buddy there is no way your company can fire you and if they have by the time you read my rather lenghly reply, Please let me know how you stand. You qualify for legal aid, I'd be happy to help you if need, Sounds like you might need it.
GOOD LUCK, AND DO NOT GIVE UP ----NOAH
I dont mean this in any negative light, but I read for a quick second and thought there was a hint of sarcasm.
But I realize you werent implying it that way...and I find it funny that Im so uber sensitive to stuff that even that drives me to insane rationalizations....
Just the same, thank you! I will say a prayer for everyone here as well.
I have done this a few times, going to work through it all...I dont have any sick time left due to my father passing and me taking a lot of time to cope with that. I should have just taken an LOA then and this probably would not have happened...but here I am.
Thanks for the help everyone.
But I realize you werent implying it that way...and I find it funny that Im so uber sensitive to stuff that even that drives me to insane rationalizations....
Just the same, thank you! I will say a prayer for everyone here as well.
I have done this a few times, going to work through it all...I dont have any sick time left due to my father passing and me taking a lot of time to cope with that. I should have just taken an LOA then and this probably would not have happened...but here I am.
Thanks for the help everyone.
It just breaks my heart when you can't take off of work to go through this...it really does..Just like mother's like me that have to take care of the kids!!!
really just tears me up..
God bless everyone in what i am saying...I pray for us all every nite ..my prayers used to take me 30 minutes a nite, now it like an hour or more to make sure i don;t forget any of you..I am only on day 8 so you see i pray for my self too.:)
r2r
really just tears me up..
God bless everyone in what i am saying...I pray for us all every nite ..my prayers used to take me 30 minutes a nite, now it like an hour or more to make sure i don;t forget any of you..I am only on day 8 so you see i pray for my self too.:)
r2r
He is reference under my insurance and suboxone.com as a registered and DEA approved script writer for buprenorphine, so yes.
He responded to me within hours and Im going to call him first thing in the AM.
I can't imagine he contacted me or however it works to tell me that he has a 4 months waiting list like some of these Dr's up here do.
BTW I just read on a reference site that Buprenorphine doctors can take up to 100 patients with secondary approval and certification.
A close, close family member has gone on the suboxone treatment and we were all skeptical, as naltrexone is an expensive and different kind of treatment and it was related, or at least we thought. Two days worth of withdrawls, about where Im at, and he took his first dose-immediate result.
He responded to me within hours and Im going to call him first thing in the AM.
I can't imagine he contacted me or however it works to tell me that he has a 4 months waiting list like some of these Dr's up here do.
BTW I just read on a reference site that Buprenorphine doctors can take up to 100 patients with secondary approval and certification.
A close, close family member has gone on the suboxone treatment and we were all skeptical, as naltrexone is an expensive and different kind of treatment and it was related, or at least we thought. Two days worth of withdrawls, about where Im at, and he took his first dose-immediate result.
when you say you went to NAABT.ORG and got a response, was it a response from a doctor who will prescribe sub?
Wow....wow, wow wow. Of all the friends and family suggestions, people who are going through this stuff in the here and now are what counts the most. I can actually rest easy enough to sleep (hopefully) tonight. I went to NAABT.ORG and checked it out, and I got a response in 20 minutes! So hopefully I can see the gentleman in the next two days and get everything squared away.
The suboxone is designed to leave you functional...and I can't afford to be off of work, but if its necessary I will take the time....Im not sure what I'll do...
The suboxone is designed to leave you functional...and I can't afford to be off of work, but if its necessary I will take the time....Im not sure what I'll do...
you know, a buddy of mine started on Sub the following day after her last pills (ate alot of pills Friday, started Sub Saturday.) she's been extolling it's virtues ever since. she said she didn't skip a beat... has felt great the entire time.
i don't know anything about Sub, but that's what I can tell ya. that, and again, that alot of people have had alot of success with the Clonidine...
good luck buddy... and keep posting. it helps.
-mj
i don't know anything about Sub, but that's what I can tell ya. that, and again, that alot of people have had alot of success with the Clonidine...
good luck buddy... and keep posting. it helps.
-mj
I was exactly in your position a little over 2 weeks ago. No sick time, couldn't lose the job. Go see your phys, or another!! I did that, poured out my heart and said to the doc, " all I need you to give me is the time off, and I am ready to do the heavy lifting to stop what I am doing." Honesty and my direct attitude showed the doc that I was serious, not just angling for something from him w/ an ulterior motive. He recommended 3 weeks FMLA for "situational stress and exhaustion", prescribed me clonidine and here I sit two weeks later. Broke, but well on my way to a clean life....I really hope yoiu can get this worked out....be happy to answer specifics about my situation if you need me to, just post the question. Good luck!
Dont know what happened to my last post....
So, yes, I figured it was an easy decision. Take the suboxone treatment and spend the extra cash for it and go on with my life. I went to the ER and I was practically treated like a criminal...I didnt look over the paperwork and left the ER. I handed it in and got a call a day later.....
I figured that taking one week off to go through with the withdrawls before the suboxone treatment was the smart thing to do, as the addiction has been affecting my job performance for 3 months now.
I thought I was doing the right thing, but now I'm not sure. But what was I supposed to do? Go to a 30 day rehab center? All things I am trying to avoid as in the past, I have gone through withdrawls and cold turkey more than my fair share of times, and it doesnt work for me as Ive seen it.
So, yes, I figured it was an easy decision. Take the suboxone treatment and spend the extra cash for it and go on with my life. I went to the ER and I was practically treated like a criminal...I didnt look over the paperwork and left the ER. I handed it in and got a call a day later.....
I figured that taking one week off to go through with the withdrawls before the suboxone treatment was the smart thing to do, as the addiction has been affecting my job performance for 3 months now.
I thought I was doing the right thing, but now I'm not sure. But what was I supposed to do? Go to a 30 day rehab center? All things I am trying to avoid as in the past, I have gone through withdrawls and cold turkey more than my fair share of times, and it doesnt work for me as Ive seen it.
is it this week you wanted off?
regardless, if you can't get it - can you get your mitts on some Clonidine? It will really help you be able to function at work (maybe you already know this...)
regardless, if you can't get it - can you get your mitts on some Clonidine? It will really help you be able to function at work (maybe you already know this...)
hydro and oxy and today is day two off of them.
I have a legit back issue but the habit didnt start with them. Im going for Sub treatment on Monday the 17th....so Im getting close....and I think I can get a couple of pills here and there until the weekend.
But the thing is, I was planning this LOA from work to be in effect and all I can do is sit here and fret about it...
I can't imagine he'd have that major an issue with one week of leave time. I dont even want pay, I could care less...Im not trying to abuse the system, I just want to get better.
I have a legit back issue but the habit didnt start with them. Im going for Sub treatment on Monday the 17th....so Im getting close....and I think I can get a couple of pills here and there until the weekend.
But the thing is, I was planning this LOA from work to be in effect and all I can do is sit here and fret about it...
I can't imagine he'd have that major an issue with one week of leave time. I dont even want pay, I could care less...Im not trying to abuse the system, I just want to get better.
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