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Good Morning Everyone,
I'm ready to do this and I want to know if any of you will help me. Missy2008's post yesterday about Moms on Norco really got to me. It's been a long time coming, I read these posts every day even though I've been taking my Norco's - sometimes up to 15 a day. I will be getting my prescription for 90 more on Thursday after my caudal epidural for my leg. I want to taper with these 90 and I know it probably won't enough to taper with, but I don't want to go cold turkey as I have an 8 month old and cannot take time off work either. So on average, I take about 10 per day, sometimes less, sometimes more. Any thoughts on how to taper these? I also have a lot of things for the Thomas Recipe - L-Tyrosine, 5HTP, vitamins, 3 valium in case I need help sleeping.
My husband is going to dispense the pills to me, I finally talked (not screamed) at him last night about helping me quit.
Thanks for any advice and help.
I'm ready to do this and I want to know if any of you will help me. Missy2008's post yesterday about Moms on Norco really got to me. It's been a long time coming, I read these posts every day even though I've been taking my Norco's - sometimes up to 15 a day. I will be getting my prescription for 90 more on Thursday after my caudal epidural for my leg. I want to taper with these 90 and I know it probably won't enough to taper with, but I don't want to go cold turkey as I have an 8 month old and cannot take time off work either. So on average, I take about 10 per day, sometimes less, sometimes more. Any thoughts on how to taper these? I also have a lot of things for the Thomas Recipe - L-Tyrosine, 5HTP, vitamins, 3 valium in case I need help sleeping.
My husband is going to dispense the pills to me, I finally talked (not screamed) at him last night about helping me quit.
Thanks for any advice and help.
I am tapering now...I tried alone for months and was not successful...avisg and greatgreebo worked out a plan for me...I changed it around as everyone has different days and parts of the day that are different...I ended up tapering down to QUIT by next Wednesday...10 days....took 35 pills....I still agree that if your mind is made up to quit right now that you should gor for it now as after you get your rx filled u may change your mind..I have to work and scared of CT.... a friend is doling out my pills for me on a daily basis...on day 2 now...had to flush some pills as I had 60...hard but did it as I had made up my mind and set a target date and did not want to prolong it with 60 pills...again tho...if you r ready now go for it!
I am sorry that it wasn't as smooth. Everyone is different. Length of time using is a big factor. It is still good to kick this thing.
I'm on day three and I'll be 100% honest with you. YOU WILL NEED MORE VOLUME! I appreciate everyone on this page being so nice telling me "Oh it's not so hard, stick in there." That did make me belive it wouldn't be so tough but, my god it's something you don't expect!
I've used for 15 years and I'm on day 3. Yes, you need to taper down & you will feel depressed when doing it. Take LOTS OF WATER with sea salt to flush out your body, use gatorade & vitamins. Remember to go easy on the peope around you while your going through this. I would go into more details but, I don't feel great right now.
I just wanted to say - DO IT NOW! You don't want to try later when you have a decade more years under your belt.
I've used for 15 years and I'm on day 3. Yes, you need to taper down & you will feel depressed when doing it. Take LOTS OF WATER with sea salt to flush out your body, use gatorade & vitamins. Remember to go easy on the peope around you while your going through this. I would go into more details but, I don't feel great right now.
I just wanted to say - DO IT NOW! You don't want to try later when you have a decade more years under your belt.
Goodnight everybody, I'm leaving work, thanks for all your help, encouragement, and suggestions. Everybody keep up the good work, keep fighting, you are all an inspiration to me. I'll be here tomorrow.....
That is possible too. Day 5 won't be a breeze, but it is still flu season isn't it???
Thanks so much for your schedule, I REALLY appreciate it!! I think between you and Avis, I can get this onto a schedule and do it. I see my first mistake, starting out with so many this morning. On the other hand, I don't get my 90 until Thursday. I only had 3 for today and 3 for tomorrow until Thursday when I get my 90. I'm half thinking I should just go for it - none on Thursday (I'll be getting a caudal epidural, so maybe that will help the first day) and go through this Thursday, Friday Saturday, Sunday, and come back to work on Monday, I would be on my 5th day already. Hmmmmmmm.................
First off, when tapering try not to take too many at once. You don't want to feel a buzz. You want your body to get used to living without the buzz. That means no chewing or snorting, take with food. You want the release to be more steady. Try 9 pills for 2 days. Split these into 3 or 4 doses throughout the day Then 8 for 2 days, 7 for 2, 6-for-2,5-for-2, 4-for-2, 3-for-2, 2-for-2, 1-for-2. When you get to the last few doses. break into halves or quarters. So that you are still spacing out the doses. If I did the math right, that =90 pills.
Also, I think if you started a new post "Help, I need a Taper plan!" you would see some quick responses if you don't like this one. You may experience mild w/ds, as this is a faster taper, but you will live.
Also, I think if you started a new post "Help, I need a Taper plan!" you would see some quick responses if you don't like this one. You may experience mild w/ds, as this is a faster taper, but you will live.
You are being so supportive, I'm crying again! Two days in a row now. I shouldn't have taken all 3 at once this morning, I should have broke them in half and took them every couple of hours. I guess that's not in the tapering plan and I'll have to learn from that real quick!
That's the way my husband has been thinking lately - he knew if I didn't take the pills I'd be miserable, in turn making him completely miserable. And to add to that, he says I'm not affectionate anymore. Even my 2 dogs are moping, I snap at them if they are just laying there on the floor and I need to walk over them, poor things!
It's so nice to be able to talk (write) to somebody about this, I don't have many friends left now. Hopefully I'll be able to change that and a lot of other things.
That's the way my husband has been thinking lately - he knew if I didn't take the pills I'd be miserable, in turn making him completely miserable. And to add to that, he says I'm not affectionate anymore. Even my 2 dogs are moping, I snap at them if they are just laying there on the floor and I need to walk over them, poor things!
It's so nice to be able to talk (write) to somebody about this, I don't have many friends left now. Hopefully I'll be able to change that and a lot of other things.
keep posting i am sure someone will send you a schedule you can follow tapering is hard i wanted to taper and i did try for about 5 min lol but i couldn't do it and i didnt have no one to hold my meds so as long as you can get a schedule and stick to it you will be fine it will be well worth it especially for your daughter please do not get down on yourself and your daughter is young so that is one good thing my kids were the reason i cleaned my act up i was starting to take it out on them and i feel terrible but i am gonna be honest this past year was bad for me and my daughter is 7 and i know she knew if mommy didnt take her medicine she was gonna be miserable i stopped being the mother i shouldve been pills ran my life from the time i got up in the morning till i went to bed you are very strong i can tell just by reading your post and we are all here day 3 and 4 were the hardest for me with w/d but believe me it was def. worth it i was on pills for 5 yrs and i never thought i would be able to quit and now it has been 40 days as of today and physically i feel good but i must tell you i still have a hard time mentally it seems when i decided to quit everything in my life went wrong i was going through one test after another but it feels soooo good to say i am passing all these tests you seem to be preparing yourself and you seem very determined i believe in you! You can do this do not give up and do not think anything negative if i did it i know you can....msinsane
Wow, I just got done eating lunch and I came back to read your responses - thank you so much!
Whiff - keep going, you can do this! I so wish I was on day 5 already...... Unfortunately, I can't tell anyone in my family, like my mom or dad, etc., I can't deal with them on or off pills, nothing I can ever do is good enough for them, so I definately don't want to add this to their ammunition! Keep being proud of yourself - you have every right to!
misinsane - I am worried that the 90 pills won't be enough to taper, but thanks for reassuring me. I'm trying to do the math and come up with some kind of schedule. I'm sure I'll need to vent the next few days so thanks so much for the offer!
Missy2008, I thought about your post all night, it made so much sense. So what if the house gets a little dirty? At least I'll be clean and be able to enjoy my daughter! Thanks for your additional suggestions, I'll print this out and take with me tonight.
Whiff - keep going, you can do this! I so wish I was on day 5 already...... Unfortunately, I can't tell anyone in my family, like my mom or dad, etc., I can't deal with them on or off pills, nothing I can ever do is good enough for them, so I definately don't want to add this to their ammunition! Keep being proud of yourself - you have every right to!
misinsane - I am worried that the 90 pills won't be enough to taper, but thanks for reassuring me. I'm trying to do the math and come up with some kind of schedule. I'm sure I'll need to vent the next few days so thanks so much for the offer!
Missy2008, I thought about your post all night, it made so much sense. So what if the house gets a little dirty? At least I'll be clean and be able to enjoy my daughter! Thanks for your additional suggestions, I'll print this out and take with me tonight.
Great choice, Psyche!!! I'm so glad my post helped. I really wanted to give something back after people here encouraged me.
For me, when I tried to c/t once before it was much harder than this time. I can't prove why it was easier this time, but my suspicion is that I first tapered to a consistent low dose first this time, so for 3 weeks, there was never any 'spike'. So like this morning, you took 3 and got a rush. Instead I broke my norco's in half and took a half, then 2 hours later took another half, etc... I never felt high, but I never felt sick. I used 6 pills at first for 2 weeks, then down to 4 (breaking them in half) for about a week and increasing the time between dosing.
From the 4, I went c/t. My last half pill was at 8pm and the worst w/d's were 24-72 hours and the height of badness came at night. So be careful to time your last pill so that first 12-24 hour mark isn't hitting you when you're going to work. Do you have weekends off? If so, make sure you start Day 2 when you get home from work on Friday (so maybe take some that morning and then that's it). Hopefully the worst will be over the weekend and if you're sick on Monday, go into work sick and let people see you sick so it makes sense that you need to go home.
Other things I did:
I ate a banana and drank a bottle of vitamin water every morning.
I ate like I had the stomach flu - rice, crackers, pretzels, toast, bland chicken.
I took Valium for the first couple of days. Then I switched to Flexeril just at night to sleep and relieve any muscle tension.
I made a list of reasons why life would be better without the norco and read it if I felt doubt.
Use Theragesic (I think it works better than IcyHot) for any muscle aches. That really worked for me.
Make sure your husband knows what to expect and ask him to be there for you when you have 'moments'.
When all else fails - think of your child, stare at her or her picture.
Best wishes to you!!!
For me, when I tried to c/t once before it was much harder than this time. I can't prove why it was easier this time, but my suspicion is that I first tapered to a consistent low dose first this time, so for 3 weeks, there was never any 'spike'. So like this morning, you took 3 and got a rush. Instead I broke my norco's in half and took a half, then 2 hours later took another half, etc... I never felt high, but I never felt sick. I used 6 pills at first for 2 weeks, then down to 4 (breaking them in half) for about a week and increasing the time between dosing.
From the 4, I went c/t. My last half pill was at 8pm and the worst w/d's were 24-72 hours and the height of badness came at night. So be careful to time your last pill so that first 12-24 hour mark isn't hitting you when you're going to work. Do you have weekends off? If so, make sure you start Day 2 when you get home from work on Friday (so maybe take some that morning and then that's it). Hopefully the worst will be over the weekend and if you're sick on Monday, go into work sick and let people see you sick so it makes sense that you need to go home.
Other things I did:
I ate a banana and drank a bottle of vitamin water every morning.
I ate like I had the stomach flu - rice, crackers, pretzels, toast, bland chicken.
I took Valium for the first couple of days. Then I switched to Flexeril just at night to sleep and relieve any muscle tension.
I made a list of reasons why life would be better without the norco and read it if I felt doubt.
Use Theragesic (I think it works better than IcyHot) for any muscle aches. That really worked for me.
Make sure your husband knows what to expect and ask him to be there for you when you have 'moments'.
When all else fails - think of your child, stare at her or her picture.
Best wishes to you!!!
i never thought i would be able to do this either but i have and you can also this forum is the perfect place i have met people who have helped me out in soooo many ways not just with my addiction allso i think 90 pills is perfect to taper with i wish you the best and if you ever need to vent i am here sleep was also the hardest thing for me and the mental cravings are still hard but i think that is all part of healing i am proud of you and it will be well worth it good luck.....msinsane
I was actually reading some of your posts this morning and your story is so similar to mine. I have a young child (2 years old) and knew that I had to stop. I am on Day 5 now and am turning the corner. You took the first step by telling your husband. That was mine as well, last Thursday.
On top of that, I told my mother and my sister. I planned the entire weekend around the worst that could possibly happen. I asked for my husband's help and asked my mother to take care of my son. Fortunately it didn't get to that point but I had a plan in place and I had my troops behind me. Nothing was more difficult than having to tell my mother but she was extremely supportive and everyone kept telling me how proud they were. I'm still struggling to understand that but today, I'm proud of me too. I'm not sure if you have that kind of support system but if you can get anyone else behind you, do it. When you tell people, it also makes it real and it puts more responsibility on you to succeed and not go back down that road. Just a suggestion.
Hang in there. I know you can do it. I'm on this site a lot and I'm here for you if you want to chat, even if it's just about our kids! I'll check in with your posts and good luck.
On top of that, I told my mother and my sister. I planned the entire weekend around the worst that could possibly happen. I asked for my husband's help and asked my mother to take care of my son. Fortunately it didn't get to that point but I had a plan in place and I had my troops behind me. Nothing was more difficult than having to tell my mother but she was extremely supportive and everyone kept telling me how proud they were. I'm still struggling to understand that but today, I'm proud of me too. I'm not sure if you have that kind of support system but if you can get anyone else behind you, do it. When you tell people, it also makes it real and it puts more responsibility on you to succeed and not go back down that road. Just a suggestion.
Hang in there. I know you can do it. I'm on this site a lot and I'm here for you if you want to chat, even if it's just about our kids! I'll check in with your posts and good luck.
I was just reading your post! Thanks so much for responding. I know that my husband will be able to dispense the medication to me, unless I start screaming like a banshee like my hair's on fire! No, it should be fine.
You have an eleven month old! They are so cute at that age. Mine's starting to do new stuff everyday and I can't seem to stop running around on these pills long enough to enjoy her and I hate myself for that. Now, the 2 year old, I have no experience with them at that age yet! It's got to be a lot harder when they are running all over the place and you are trying to quit! But you can do it and I wish you the best of luck, keep posting and I'll be keeping up with your progress!
You have an eleven month old! They are so cute at that age. Mine's starting to do new stuff everyday and I can't seem to stop running around on these pills long enough to enjoy her and I hate myself for that. Now, the 2 year old, I have no experience with them at that age yet! It's got to be a lot harder when they are running all over the place and you are trying to quit! But you can do it and I wish you the best of luck, keep posting and I'll be keeping up with your progress!
i understand where u are coming from with the whole thing about not quitting cold turkey because of ur child. i have an 11 month old, and that is the only thing stopping me from doing it cold turkey. i tried before and by about 3 oclock in the afternoon i just couldnt make it anymore. i had to call someone to come help me take care of my child. later that day, i gave in and took some pills. its really tough trying to keep your cool with your kids and take care of them to the full extent that they need whenever you are trying to get off the medication. i tried tapering off, i wasnt succesfull, but that is the way everyone has been telling me to go. im trying to take a minimal amount of methadone for a week then im going cold turkey, if i find help with my babies. the other one is 2. i was taking 15 or 20 lortabs a day. now for 2 days ive been on 30mg of methadone. i feel ok with this amount, but im terrified of what next week will be like without any medication. please stand strong and dont give in and take more than ur limit for that day. do better than i did. i cant have that many pills in my posession and not swallow 5 at a time. Best OF Luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You're absolutely right...you need to be there for that baby girl...you don't want to miss all the "new" things she does while you are in a fog...so you are doing a good thing, for all of you. Keep posting...it really does help!
Darn, I keep writing a response and then hitting back to forum instead of post comment!
Thanks for your post! It means a lot to me. I need to stop relying on these pills to live my life. I've got a life to live and a daughter to raise and I need to do this!!!!
Thanks for your post! It means a lot to me. I need to stop relying on these pills to live my life. I've got a life to live and a daughter to raise and I need to do this!!!!
Welcome to this forum.It sounds like you're heading in the right direction....I'm not real familiar w/ norco, my DOC was vics, but people who have a little more experience with that will be along and can help you.
You CAN do this...and we are all here to help you thru it.....You don't want to taper too fast...try PM avisg... maybe she can help you w/ a taper schedule...
Hang in there! We're all rooting for you!
You CAN do this...and we are all here to help you thru it.....You don't want to taper too fast...try PM avisg... maybe she can help you w/ a taper schedule...
Hang in there! We're all rooting for you!
Thanks for your encouragement - I'm glad I'm here too, I think I'm at the right place to do this. Looking at my daughter just encourages me more also. It's just getting to the point where I can hardly look at her in the eye, let alone look at myself in the mirror! I feel so guilty. But I'm gonna do this!!
I'm glad you're here. You won't miss out on enjoying your baby. You can do it! I did with lots of prayer and help on this forum. Still have a desire sometimes but I procrastinate using and it passes.
Hey thanks!!! That sounds workable to me! Instead of my usual 6 for breakfast, I only took 3 and didn't bring any to work with me, so no 3 or 4 for lunch! Thank you so much for the encouragement. I hope you get some sleep!
I think you should be able to taper just fine with 90 pills. Now you cant take 15/day. You can start by taking 8 for two days, then down a pill each day until your only taking one or two a day for 3-4 days. Im not really sure though. THere are people here that can help you with this. ive heard some great taper methods here. You can do it. make sure you get something for sleep. I wish i would have. I detoxed with no sleep aids and that was the worst part for me. I did take phenergan for sleep one night and it did help.
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