Withdrawal from Methadone

[Punkprincess77]

Hey guys I had a question about Withdrawal from Methadone. Has anyone every used small amounts of other opiates to ease the long drawn out Methadone withdrawals? I was thinking about using a small amount of other opiates every other or every 3 days for the first two week of Methadone Withdrawals. Any ideas or opinions about it would be greatly appreciated.

[gnarly_1]

Hey Princess  hows it going??

[gnarly_1]

Hi  david.....well thats one he ll of a way to come  off methadone  your not the first one that went back to dope because of the severty of the withdrawals  sub helps but as you can see it t has its own can of worms....when I kiked the mthadone back in sept of 09  I thought I was going to go mad  I didnt sleep for like  2 months  it was crazy  im bipolar and almost went manic....just know it can be done and all the torcher your going threw will be worth it....today I cringe when someone chooses to go on methadone  it is a evil drug that hand down makes the pills look like child's play to come off  just stick it out dude time heals  it took me a good 90 days to get over being dope sick keep posting for support  Gnarly

[Punkprincess77]

I too am in the medical field and long hours keep me at the hospital and away from him that's a big reason why I think I'm doing so well.. I'm actually pretty proud of myself I've got to work everyday and only stayed home on my days off.. The headaches are getting extremely bad. That and the constant freezing chills are my worst symptoms.

[Jenjen39]

Keep going! I'm 28 days free from methadone, 2-3 weeks are the hardest! I did it with klonipin, but at first I could still only sleep about 4 hours. Goodys headache shots with caffeine, helped with the headaches. But the depression is the worse- it does get better. And I'm sorry to say- I don't know how you're doing it with your BF having problems. I'm not being negative, people are capable of amazing things, but even when the meth clinic would call me to check, I wouldn't answer because I knew if they saw me, they would convince me to go back up. I used klonipin, which I was prescribed, although my PCP had no idea I was on methadone... I'm in the medical field and did not want that on my record. I'm not recommending that, you should always be honest with your DR. I tapered from the klonipin from 1-2 mg a day after the 2nd week. Now I'm on 0.5 mg.a day. Less than I was prescribed. I have some energy back and headaches are less. I can laugh. Best wishes.

[Punkprincess77]

Yes it's been 9 days with no methadone, and 4 with no oxy. I know having him around brings no good. I'm thinking once I'm clean I'll be able to see more clearly and make better choices in that part of my life. I'm not in AA or NA.. That's not for me. Not knocking it but it just doesn't fit me. I'm seeing a private counselor .. With 1:1 sessions.

[Krissy_123]

Also I think the more you're out and away from watching your husband use the better. I don't know where that path will take you,but I can't see it being a good one. You're trying to better your life,and watching him and him being a jerk is really going to bring you down.

[Krissy_123]

Whatever day was the last day you put the oxy in your system is day one. But you've been off the methadone for over a week? And that's all that matters,look forward not backwards! Don't stare at the clock and if you're able get out and do something. The more we force ourselves to get back into reality the faster this healing progress will go. That and some sort of AA or NA meeting. A counsler...just someone in real life to talk to. That's where the real healing starts.

[Punkprincess77]

Anybody have any kind of idea how far back I set myself using those other opiates ?

[Punkprincess77]

Thanks guys it's really hard to not get discouraged. My fiancé knows but the problem is we both use.. We both were suppose to quit .. But he lasts a day maybe 2 and is huge jerk.. saying withdrawals are so bad and then he uses. So he is still using while I'm trying to get clean. It's extremely hard.

[evil379]

Try not to get discouraged. I know it's easy to say and harder to do. It's going to be up and down right now. Yesterday I felt like I had so much energy and today I feel like I went back a step. It's just part of it. My way of thinking it I've got 11 days in. Do I really wanna start that all over and deal with the worst of it again? Heck no. Do you have someone that can help give you support? Even if it's someone distracting you. On my worst day that made all the difference.

[gnarly_1]

well the other opiets just masked it  methadone withdrawals last a around 10 days to 2 weeks  then recovery has a lot to do with how long you where on it  at what dose and your age all factor in  it took me a good 90 days to see the light but today as bad as it was it was a small price to pay to be clean and free of the ''liquid handcuffs''
just hang in there it wont kill you  vent all you need to here get to a N/A meeting as soon as you can you dont have to go threw this alone
........................................Gnarly...........................

[Punkprincess77]

I have quit all opiates. Today is day 3 with nothing and day 8 with no Methadone. Today has been extremely tough. I got a few hours of sleep last night and woke up feeling just awful the worst I have felt this since starting this. This is really discouraging I thought I was doing better guess I'm not.

[Krissy_123]

Yes I'll have to agree,you're going to just have to tough it out. You're keeping your opiate receptors open so you're not going to heal. Well you will but it's going to take a very long time doing it this way. Only way is to put them all down hun. I know it suckks a$$!! But you can do this!!! And yes,it's normal to feel crappy because the methadone stays in your system longer so w/d's won't hit you hard 6 hours after your last dose like oxy would. It stays in your bones and skin for quite awhile. But hang in there and you WILL start to turn a corner! I'm in a recovery program,came off oxy a year ago next month and it's helped me immensely. If you're not in some sort of program id deff suggest checking a meeting out. The mental part of recovry is rough and we can't do it alone. Hang in there!!

[Krissy_123]

Next week*** I meant not next month. :)

[Punkprincess77]

Day 10 is awesome! Wish I was that far

[evil379]

I'm only on day 10, so I have no where near as much knowledge as everyone else that has commented but let me give you my advice. I am 10 days off my MS Contin CT, and what Vickie said plays such a huge part. For me I wasn't getting sick, but I had no appetite. I wasn't eating or drinking and I ended up at the ER for dehydration. After that I was better about drinking, but still not so much the eating. I've now forced myself to eat, and eat well, and I feel an AMAZING difference. Do better than me and listen to her. I had to read her advice a few times before I got it thru my thick skull.

[Punkprincess77]

Thanks guys. I know I must "pay the piper" and there is no free way out of this I was just trying to ease them.  I know treating one opiate with another just prolongs this. I've kicked oxy and morphine before. Methadone is just a whole new world. I tried it a few months ago and only made it to day 9. At that point the withdrawals just got worse and worse everyday. I'm almost done with day 7 and I feel a hundred times better then I did last time. I also am using all different kind of vitamins and mega dosing  Vit C .. And mega dosing loperamide. I've read many things on that crazy oct drug and I know it can be addicting. So everyday I make my lope dose smaller and only have a few more days of taking it before I am down to 0. Hopefully I can make from here on out without anymore opiates.

[VICourageous]

I have to totally agree with Gnarly!

You will only prolong the Mental part. It takes time for the Brain Chems to adjust back from the removal of these Stims. I would just Stop the Merry-go-Round now. YOU should be fine physically, but the Mental will take Time & Patience. The thing with Methadone is that it does take days and days to come out of the Body. It likes to stick around. SO, maybe you will have some physical, but maybe not so bad, since you have been off of that one, but the other one will still have to detox out.. Just try to get clean and let everything find it's own balance. YOU can do IT!!!!
Hang Tight!
Congrats on your days off the Dones!
Bless

[gnarly_1]

Hi....well congrats on day 7  the phyical part will be over in 10 to 14 days  but there is always lingering symptoms with methadone  for me the sleepless nights and the energy crash was the worst  I was on the stuff for almost 7ys at 150mg so my detox was ruff   as a group we dont recamend treating an opiet addiction with another opiet  it my give you temporary relief but your brain will not start the  healing process until you stop all opiets  so long term it will only make things worst you just got to go threw it  just know it can be done we have a lot of members who have done it  keep posting for support..........Gnarly

[Punkprincess77]

Officially day 7 no methadone.

[Punkprincess77]

Great advise from both of you thank you. As good as your advice sounds Vickie I agree slow and steady would be the wiser choice but I jumped already. these things are seriously ruining my life. I've had 6 days clean from Methadone. With the aid of oxy. Every other day I've used. So my Thursday the 5th: last does of methadone 30mg .. Friday 45mg oxy Sat nothing Sun 30mg oxy Mon nothing Tues 20mg oxy today: Wed nothing .. Trying to decide if I should use tomorrow .. Or just keep cold turkeying it.

[VICourageous]

Yep, I agree here. I too, jumped after I got down to 30mg but with 2 other meds. It was not good. BUT I made it and I am alive over 3 yrs later.

I would just keep on with the dones and drop it slow and easy. Give your Brain and Body time to adjust to each drop. You can find some natural things to help with sleep, anxiety, energy and so forth. Make sure you pick up some good vit/min too. These will take time to kick in, so I would Eat very Healthy to get those vit/min in you right away. Look for things that will help build the immune system and some antioxidants. Drink and Drink tons of fluids and mostly water. You can find all kind of good vit/min to add to the water, like Emergen-c or Airborne. The Magnesium, Ds, Calcium, Potassium and so forth will help relax the muscles and help with sleep. We can help more when you are completely off these...However, you could pick some of these things up now.

SO..Just stay on one thing and drop it slow and easy. No reason to add another pill to detox from. Wish you the best!
Bless
Vickie

[jimgreg]

the thing about done, if you use it every 3-5 days the tolerance drops fast beings its a opiate blocker..meaning you could overdosing even that small window, you may want to google this..I see what you trying to do. May work..I jumped  off 20 mgs it was very bad..I knew a man that dropped off 5 mgs he was sick 2 weeks..it depends on the person..yea methadone is great for pain but a scary med..good luck..

[David4842]

I was on methadone from year 2000- march 2014  that clinic lied to me for years using scare tactics. I was 21 all I did was sniff dope and did it cold turkey and day 5 I was free but when I relapsed months later the memory of that grueling detox put me in panic so people say miracle drug methadone so I went to clinic at age 21 not knowing horrors clinic and its propaganda to keep me for 14 years man. year 5 constipation and other effects hurt and they said its in my mind but I can go to bathroom normal without opiates but they nothing but scam. so when my insurance died out they put me on admin detox 5 days and u are out. so I was like what choice I had went to dope for 3 months and didn't know methadone wds but switch to subs and been on them for year and its been 24 days since last dose no more pain but haven't sleep since 2 days before thanksgiving. I hearing voices I cant think sometimes due to no sleep. this is hell